I don't know much about this chick but this is a really good album. Very deeep.
― The Reverend, Monday, 12 March 2012 06:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Wow, phenomenal
"Pain in the Ass" is great too
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 March 2012 11:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
h: Oh, okay. Cool! Are you still doing your residency in Russia at the club?
NK: No, I haven’t been doing that for almost a year.
h: Okay, I didn’t know. There haven’t been that many interviews with you recently or they weren’t very substantial so I was just trying to figure it out.
NK: No worries, I was just answering that I haven’t been doing it for a year already.
https://halcyonline.com/2011/qa-nina-kraviz/
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 March 2012 11:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't know, I could just listen to stuff like this all day long. Sounds like 4am at a Moodymann show.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 March 2012 11:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
doesn't that make you want to see her live?
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Monday, 12 March 2012 12:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
she popped up in the khodorkovsky documentary entirely unexpectedly (billed as a "dj and dentist", lol). just for half a minute and i think the director was trying to depict her as some moscow party girl who didn't care about ~fighting~ for this ~political prisoner~ but tbh in the very one-sided documentary it was kind of refreshing to see one person who was like "hey khodorkovsky isn't some kind of democratic hero, he was stealing from russia too".
um yeah the new album is okay, maybe a bit understated for me but nice enough, solid three stars, but this from 2009 is her classic
the bass drop at 3.5 mins in >>>>>>>
― lex pretend, Monday, 12 March 2012 12:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
That one would go really nice with "Hey Hey"
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 March 2012 12:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Wow, great!
― MikoMcha, Monday, 12 March 2012 13:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like the album, maybe a bit disappointing after her amazing singles, but its different so i'm still kind of adjusting to it. i appreciate that she didn't just take her best tracks so far and jam them into an album with some other stuff. 'taxi talk' is too short.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 12 March 2012 13:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
"oh shit, lenny's got another daughter" - me, anytime i see this woman's name
― yolo ono (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 March 2012 13:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
looking forward to this record. tho i think i am sort of an outlier b/c the youtubes in the OP sound better to me than her other singles. "ghetto kraviz" is just a jam
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Monday, 12 March 2012 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol, saw her come up in lex's recommendations and thought the same thing!
― MikoMcha, Monday, 12 March 2012 19:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
but it's not spelled the same!
― lex pretend, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, what?
― The Reverend, Monday, 12 March 2012 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's already close enough.
― MikoMcha, Monday, 12 March 2012 21:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
i'm saying that i instinctively read a "t" into Kraviz
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 March 2012 21:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
overrated
― the late great, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Total Thomas Brinkmann vibe to some of this, which i love. thanks for the tip x
― jed_, Monday, 12 March 2012 22:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
k listened to this and i love it, need to listen more but yes i appreciate the tip as well
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 00:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is my new other favorite
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
I love the low key night music vibe of the album
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 02:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
yea i think i'm gravitating most towards "taxi talk" and "turn on the radio" atm but that one is another solid cut
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 06:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
god i can't stop listening to this, so gooood
has some of the warmth and subtle detail that appealed to me about the robag wruhme album but with the added bonus of gorgeous vox that make more direct gestures at intimacy. this is def a late night album but it's more like a euphoric late night in someone else's bedroom as opposed to the communal comedown type vibe i get from other late night music
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 06:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
On first listen it put me in mind of Dani Siciliano crossed with... I dunno, Norma Jean Bell? I need to listen to it again though.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 07:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
psych otm
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 09:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
this needs to be played next to that lee foss track
― owenf, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 10:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
she is v v pretty btw
― ⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 16 March 2012 22:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
v v v
― the late great, Friday, 16 March 2012 22:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's a rule. You can't mention Nina Kraviz without saying how beautiful she is. Or how she may be fancying Ben Klock. The fanboys getting very hot under the collar. Really liked "I'm Gonna Get You" but none of these are really grabbing me. I saw her play a couple of times last year and she played tougher. The vocals sound a bit Luomo.
― mmmm, Saturday, 17 March 2012 08:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
Not really feeling this, it's kind of drab.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 19 March 2012 18:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
otm, it's def not sitting at my desk/driving in my car music
― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 19 March 2012 19:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
This could never be as drab as Benoit and Sergio or Art Dept
― lex pretend, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
not saying much
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 20:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Benoit and Sergio occasionally nod in the direction of a tune. This doesn't
― Number None, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
otm
― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, 19 March 2012 23:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
b&s backlash make me sad :-(
― flopson, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
Goddam those soulless house music producers with their lack of tunes!
― Tuomas, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think this stuff is quite tepid
like the best track on here is a smoothed out version of tantakatan which itself was like a smoothed out version of a radio slave track
― the late great, Monday, 19 March 2012 23:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Tuomas, Monday, March 19, 2012 4:25 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, what the hell are these fools talking about? this record is all about sounds for me (including her voice, which i love). i'm not coming into it looking for pop songs.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 01:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
― flopson, Monday, March 19, 2012 4:17 PM Bookmark
backlash implies that we liked them in the first place, which NO. FUCK THAT.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 01:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
I knew i'd be brought up on that throwaway tunes comment, but i don't find it this particularly atmospheric or anything either. Seems like this and Voices From The Lake are the two most acclaimed dance albums recently and i find both of them incredibly boring.
― Number None, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 01:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Rev I think yr crusade against hipster druggy house doesn't really apply to anything B&S have done in the past 12 months.
They've basically turned into a 2012 equivalent of Justus Kohncke.
I can understand disliking "Where The Freaks Have No Name" et. al. on your stated grounds, of course.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 01:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
one man's "boring" is another man's "low key late night music"
maybe ppl are just confused cause it's on rekids? doesn't remind me of anything i've ever heard from that label
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 02:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah, i could see that. rekids stuff is usually more overtly banging for sure.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 02:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
yea, and her RA podcast, other singles etc were a lot different too.
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 02:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
― The Reverend, Monday, March 19, 2012 9:32 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
we did. i was there. i was one of them.
― flopson, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 03:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
i can understand not being wowed by the kraviz album cuz it really is very understated, but it works really well at creating mood. there are too many actively annoying elements to benoit & sergio
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 07:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
ya idk if i'd call it a 'grower' but it definitely helps to be in the right mood. which, it turns out, i usually am.
couldn't imagine hearing this stuff 'out', it's so intimate and understated. i could imagine someone hating this record if they were sitting around anxiously waiting for something to happen or sweep them off their feet... this isn't 'just' wallpaper but it works really well in the right setting/with the right expectations... i think i gravitate towards records like this tho maybe others don't. also maybe cold rainy pacific northwest winters naturally complement this type of thing
i love b&s but this really is nothing like b&s, can we have that debate elsewhere?
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 08:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
maybe cold rainy pacific northwest winters naturally complement this type of thing
ha, you too?
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 08:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
yea this is my second pdx winter and i'm trying to embrace it rather than continuing to hold out for whenever the hell it's supposed to be sunny again
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 08:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
Jimi, you tell me some albums from indie artists that have crossed over to dance forums so I can come vomit on them, plz.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
jimi, step your guilt by association game up, please
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Beach House
I don't mind a cross over.
It's just that this stuff is kinda shit/boring.
― jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
jimi i love u but i don't hear anything the tiniest bit live-sounding about these drums, and it doesn't read as DFA-ish at all to me. i hear it as analog-ish straight-up house (and i don't have the dance music background to be able to really distinguish between different genres of house, but i want to say it sounds like 'classic' or 'regular' house, whether that means 'deep' or Detroit techno or whatever), and the vocals are the one thing giving it some identity and personality (and that's not a diss, necessarily).
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
Jimi would you like to borrow a shovel to save some time.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
jimi i love u but you're bringin me down
its all sampled kits clipped from dads drums and clicked to a grid
to make it sound generic in that dfa kinda way.
the early dfa comps went right into this sound: /
Nina just sounds like a minimal dub version of that.
― jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
sounds like drum machines to me
and huge lols at dissing something by comparing it to "casual friday"
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
(which nothing on this sounds anything like)
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
If it's generic, how can you assign any of its characteristics to a source?
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
Did shovel do the drums for DFA?
― jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
at this point, i'm just going to sit back and commend your trolling.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
The only trolling here is generic house like Nina the Blondes & Talabot.
― jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 03:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
LOL @ this sounding remotely like black leotard front. that would be AMAZING but unfortunately it is not true
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 07:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
This reminds me a bit of Blackdown's eternal crusade against "winebar house".
― Tim F, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 07:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
also - wtf are "dad drums"? i think i like them
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 07:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
This shit has live sounding drums locked to a house grid.
oh man that is just THE WORST. Live drums and house music is SO DFA
never mention the fact that there is absolutely nothing resembling live drums on this at all
all these 'criticisms' make me want to like this even more than i already do
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 08:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
and yea it is weird how earnest posts about an understated album have inspired so much vitriol.
i feel like i can listen to something on hessle or swamp 81 and think to myself, "i have no idea where or why anyone would listen to this stuff" but that doesn't mean i'm not willing to accept that i might have overlooked smthg or be listening to it in the wrong context and maybe i should just let it slide and post about stuff i actually enjoy
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 08:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:42 AM Bookmark
yeah, really!
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 08:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is kind of cool. reminds me of kate wax, julia holter, emika and all the other chicks from the arty electro thread
― cock chirea, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 09:32 (1 year ago) Permalink
Sascha Funke vs. Nina Kravizhttp://open.spotify.com/artist/1meuzXhsNqB8rtK4Cc2MUy
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 09:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
"vitriol" seems kind of hyperbolic
jimi's just offering a gentle "idgi"
― the late great, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
idgi it either but tim's comment about it sounding more or less like a poker flat album from the last 10 years kinda covers any other comments i could add to the thread
― the late great, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
i don't hear even any vague similarities between nina kraviz, blondes, john talabot and dfa. also the only people who have heard of nina kraviz are huge dance heads, not indie people
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
also the only people who have heard of nina kraviz are huge dance heads, not indie people
I played her for Rev in the outloud room one night, which I think was his first time hearing her. I'm neither a dance head or an indie people.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
neither/nor, rather.
</grammarcop>
you're head people.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
nina released records on dj jus-ed label, can't get realer house than that.
― sisilafami, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
"it's not house cos i like house", "it's not indie cos i hate indie"... jesus, state of some of you.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
"it's not indie cos i hate indie"
who said this?
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
superfluous "not" there
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok, gotcha
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
I am frequently surprised by the lengths people will go to in order to categorise things together based on their own feelings of love or hate rather than, um, what the music sounds like.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
This is mega Berlin 2012 DFA tech indie house if ever I saw it.
lmao dude
― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
still gotta hear this album but i like what i've heard from nina kraviz. also she's hot. and hey is she dating ben klock??
she's def popular with teh dance heads.
― art dealin' thru the west coast (tpp), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
i don't get the "indie" thing or the dfa comparisons either. haha ok i just relistened to some kalabrese and i don't know what i was remembering because kalabrese is certainly not "jam packed" or maximalist, by and large. there is a lot of overlap with what nina kraviz is doing for sure. it's more interesting to me to figure out why they're different, though, and to my mind they are. damned if i can really explain it. i can also see the comparisons with poker flat but again i've been bored silly by most poker flat stuff i've heard and not this, which despite its surface-level boringness and songs which develop maybe 2mm from where they started still manages to keep me listening (some more than others, obv; i don't really like the ultra-leaden voice on "ghetto kraviz" for example). perhaps one point of distinction between kraviz and somebody like dani siciliano (or kalabrese) is the sense of cheapness to it, for lack of a better word. half thought-out. which is maybe what jimi was getting at. but me, i like cheap if it sounds like this!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
i feel like this has been the scourge of dance discussion here and beyond for a long, long time. not that there hasn't been plenty good discussion. really wish it would stop, there is this constant thing everything some people hate is labelled as a word they've already decided they hate and vice versa, regardless of the music.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
oh come on, makes perfect sense, this music sounds like shit, that other music sounds like shit, qed
― the late great, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 23:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
that post was indie nonsense.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
only a soulless dance fan would say something like that
― Number None, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
on the essential mix...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01h5gtt
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Loving it so far. Very much making me want to don a pair of shades and sway by a rooftop pool rather than being in the basement shop of a university selling Polo mints.
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
Ghetto Kraviz is so ghetto.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
awful, gay, indie, dfa, live, drum, old, man, brown, turd, fog, house, music
― they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Sunday, 10 June 2012 07:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
Proverb states soulless dance fan gets glass in feet.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 10 June 2012 10:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
I saw her over the weekend and she only played super-super-super-SUPER-SUUUUUUPEEEEEEEEEERRRR-tracky techno with barely any synth lines or anything and no real obvious breakdowns or buildups and most people (self-included) had no idea what to do with it. Like people would just dance for a little bit and then stop cause there weren't really any cues in the music to ease back here, go nuts here, whatever.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 6 October 2012 03:02 (8 months ago) Permalink
Like it was all pretty banging and stuff but not really in the service of anything.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 6 October 2012 03:07 (8 months ago) Permalink
you probably forgot to do drugs first.
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 8 October 2012 06:59 (8 months ago) Permalink
I did have someone ask me if I knew where to get any E. But I didn't know. :(
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 8 October 2012 08:19 (8 months ago) Permalink
only track of hers i know is zlobnii mikrob - representative?
― suare, Monday, 8 October 2012 08:26 (8 months ago) Permalink