that's not a challop, that's true
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
here is my janet jackson challop: "rhythm nation" and "if" are essentially the same song, except "rhythm nation" is better.
It's not a challop!
I like "If" fine though, especially her feral tone on the verses.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
"thriller" didn't even make my ballot but it seems too low. everything on this poll is too low.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
i thought it was a challop because "If" is such an ilx fave
ha I was just about to post that the main thing "If" has going for it is Janet singing in a low tenor register for most of the verse and the rising scale out of it that leads into the pre-chorus
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link
her outfit in the "if" video is the cutest thing she's ever worn, maybe
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago) link
it actually shocked college-aged me that I was taken aback at Janet Jackson cooing "your silky smooth/It feels so good against my lips, sugar" at me
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, I got over it in like 5 seconds but at first I was all "well I guess we're done with waiting!"
"Got To Be There," "Never Can Say Goodbye," and "I'll Be There" are pretty much the alpha & omega of music
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:56 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha rich juzwiak had a good summary at some point of the evolution of janet's thematic concerns, album-by-album. i tried to find it to link on the nominations thread. even when it becomes and sort of stays the sex chronicles with janet there's a lot of variation of focus in the later albums.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:05 (twelve years ago) link
last two for today
22. Janet Jackson - What Have You Done for Me Lately? (161 points, 8 votes) Tied with 21 from Control, 1986
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9uizdKZAGE
― Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
21. Janet Jackson - Got ‘til It’s Gone (161 points, 8 votes, 1 1st Place Vote) Tied with 22 from The Velvet Rope, 1997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uznTHSEgx4U
"I'll Be There" was my #1; would've expected a Top 10 finish.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
yay "what have you done for me lately"!!! that has aged better for me than "nasty." is also a much better song than "got 'til it's gone" imo, though i love velvet rope.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
yay "what have you done for me lately"!!! that has aged better for me than "nasty."
Agreed
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:13 (twelve years ago) link
"empty" should be higher than "got til it's gone," y'all
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
Awesome songs today on the whole.
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
Really not hearing "Rhythm Nation, Part 2" in "If." If there's a zero-effort "Rhythm Nation, Part 2," it's the two songs that follow it on the RN1814 album.
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
The main thing "If" has going for it is that psycho-intense filtering on the Supremes sample that turns it into some sort of android killing machine.
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
Uh-oh. Woulda figured at least one of those two Janet songs in the top 10 - and I wouldn't have even been surprised at "What Have You Done" going top 5. Guess I really should've voted for more Janet tracks.
― wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
So are any Janet songs gonna place top 10?
― wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
Aside from maybe "That's the Way Love Goes," I mean?
― wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
Right now, it's looking like "If" is it for the top 10. Maybe "Pleasure Principal."
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
omg, new (old?) pron title
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
Would love "Throb" or "What About" to place, but I think it's probably too late for that now.
― prolego, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
Is this going to turn into the Stevie Wonder poll all over again, with Innervisions (or, in this case, Thriller) taking up over half the top 10?
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
I can see "Don't Stop Till Tou Get Enough" winning though.
― prolego, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
The way these results have been going, it's too soon to make calls, but I'm starting to feel an "I Want You Back" triumph over "Billie Jean."
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link
"Billie Jean" didn't even win the Thriller poll: THRILLER POLL
i really think "Don't Stop" is gonna take it all, since it's kind of THE Off The Wall hit where most of the other big Michael/Janet albums will kind of have votes split between a bunch of different songs
― TERMAINTOR 2 (some dude), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
when "PYT" wins I'm going to give you all such a look
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
My dentist had 'Black or White' on earlier, I think that was a sign.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:11 (twelve years ago) link
Plenty more from Off the Wall to come, I think (hope). Maybe more than from Thriller?
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
i went to an office birthday party today and "PYT" was playing on the stereo, goddamn i love that song
― TERMAINTOR 2 (some dude), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:18 (twelve years ago) link
there are at least 4 songs from Thriller guaranteed to show up later, i seriously doubt that many from Off The Wall will place this high
― TERMAINTOR 2 (some dude), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:21 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno how anyone could listen to PYT and not be creeped out by it
― erotic war comedy pollster (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, unless you are receptive to an awesome song full of great hooks.
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
haha i was actually gonna say it's amazing that "PYT" hasn't been tainted at all by MJ's later life, at least not for me
― TERMAINTOR 2 (some dude), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:23 (twelve years ago) link
"Don't Stop" and "Rock With You" are shoo-ins at least.
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
no doubt. but so are "Billie Jean" and "Beat It" and "Human Nature" and "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'."
― TERMAINTOR 2 (some dude), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
wait so "Miss You Much" isn't going to place?
― Euler, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
i honestly have no idea, seems like a 50/50 shot at this point
― TERMAINTOR 2 (some dude), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
"Miss You Much" is totally a top 20 song, come on
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I mean you'd think it's a given
bold prediction: I think "Beat It" won't make this poll
― Euler, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
you're probably right, but i'd be more confident if i hadn't cut it from my ballot at the last minute (xpost)
― TERMAINTOR 2 (some dude), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
euler you crazy
― TERMAINTOR 2 (some dude), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
"Miss You Much" is my least favorite RN single :(
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
I love "Beat It" but it's a lot harder for me to separate from the hype when it was new than any other MJ song. plus the video while classic is also hilariously lame: Michael as killer is such a bad look.
― Euler, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
that is a very weird image to take away from the "Beat It" video
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
were the knifes just for cutting salad?
― Euler, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
(avoiding a circumcision joke)
― Euler, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link