Devo - Gut Feeling Deerhunter - Desire Lines
You all know what day it is, I hope. And can someone PLEASE start the 50 Greatest Art-House Movies poll, I wanna see Morbs go Super Sayan
― once a week is ample, Friday, 17 February 2012 09:28 (twelve years ago) link
art-house isn't a genre
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 February 2012 09:32 (twelve years ago) link
yes, but it will be
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 17 February 2012 09:55 (twelve years ago) link
Closer Musik - Departures
― I DIED, Friday, 17 February 2012 09:59 (twelve years ago) link
Can we have an art-house tracks poll please?
― seandalai, Friday, 17 February 2012 11:37 (twelve years ago) link
what day is it
― getting good with gulags (beachville), Friday, 17 February 2012 11:52 (twelve years ago) link
Kosovan independence day iirc
― contreatable logorrhea (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 February 2012 11:54 (twelve years ago) link
I kind of want to say "Gouge Away"...? Not a perfect fit though
― kvetcher in the rye (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 17 February 2012 14:22 (twelve years ago) link
it was my fukkin birthday okay
Teleman - Melrose
― imago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 02:57 (three years ago) link
radiohead - reckoner
― ufo, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 03:01 (three years ago) link
At 5 minutes and 5 seconds into the 5th song on the band Elder's 5th album the song changes to a 5 bar cycle in 5/8.
― Noel Emits, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 09:49 (three years ago) link
Boards Of Canada - Sunshine Recorder
Although I wouldn't say this finds transcendence so much.
― Noel Emits, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 10:32 (three years ago) link
BoC are a group constantly in search of transcendence though!
― imago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 10:39 (three years ago) link
also that's a great fact about Elder
I require all the transcendent 5-bar cycles
― imago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 10:40 (three years ago) link
not that it's easy to beat the two examples in the OP
can confirm that Elder does exactly that and it's seamless, that is some monstrously great nerding from our psych lads there
― imago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 10:45 (three years ago) link
I only realised most of that about the Elder song just now when I checked on YouTube to see if I'd remembered that bit correctly.
Sunshine Recorder is dense and earthy and the extended bar structure lumbers, which aren't qualities that necessarily first come to mind when thinking of the quest for transcendent but I suppose transcendence can be found by plunging into the earth as well. One of the best on Geoggaddi anyway.
― Noel Emits, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 10:49 (three years ago) link
you realised that yourself? omg! it also cycles 10 times lol obv
― imago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 10:50 (three years ago) link
Ah.. I think it repeats 4 times and then changes to a 6 bar cycle!
― Noel Emits, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 10:53 (three years ago) link
it just gets louder haha, we'll call it 5 and 5 :D
― imago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 10:55 (three years ago) link
and it's still a 5-bar cycle, just 6 sets of that cycle. WHEELS WITHIN WHEELS
The Strokes - Trying Your Luck
― (the one with 3 L's) (Willl), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 11:02 (three years ago) link
In an effort to avoid the tedious work I'm supposed to be doing irl I've spent the morning digging through non-standard pattern length music to try and find more 5 bar examples. So far, the verse pattern on Eleanor Rigby is probably the most well known 5 bar pattern afaict? Radiohead - Idioteque is also based around a 5 bar loop with occasional flips to a 2 bar pattern.Not sure how 'transcendant' these are, but there are a few examples of hiphop guys giving the 5 bar loop a shot:Busta Rhymes & Q Tip - Don't GoJay-Z etc - Brooklyn's FinestJay-z - Hovi BabyJonWayne - City LightsMobb Deep - ClapPete Rock / 9th Wonder - Am I Dreaming?There are also a few cases of using 5 bar patterns as a trick for a suspenseful outro, eg:Deerhunter - Desire Lines (outro)Guns & Roses - November Rain (outro)There is likely loads more obscure synth stuff that fits the 5 bar bill, eg; East India Youth - Glitter Recession. Whether this is intentional or a side effect of noodling around on a modular synth I don't know.;)Other notable bits I came across:Quasi - I Give Up (once it gets going)The Fall - 'Smile' (kind of could work as 5 bars depending on how you count it ;))
― (the one with 3 L's) (Willl), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 12:26 (three years ago) link
yeah Desire Lines was what made me start this thread
― imago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 12:43 (three years ago) link
Whoops, forgot it was mentioned already :)
― (the one with 3 L's) (Willl), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 13:05 (three years ago) link
but - good research haha, ty for contributing to the quest
― imago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 13:18 (three years ago) link
Stereolab - Refractions In The Plastic Pulse
From around 4:30, also in 5/8
― Noel Emits, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 13:18 (three years ago) link
I'd say November Rain, great as the outro is, doesn't really pursue transcendence in quite the same tail-chasing way - the best thing about a 5-bar cycle is that it can give the impression of having no beginning point, it is constantly unresolving
― imago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 13:19 (three years ago) link
whereas the November Rain cycle is a very standard 4-bar cycle with a very obvious start-point that adds an extra bar's widdling to really make the point
― imago, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 13:20 (three years ago) link
When I opened this thread I happened to be listening to Miles Davis' "Johnny Bratton (Insert 1)" from the Complete Jack Johnson Sessions, and it does exactly this. I feel like there are lots more songs I love that do this, but I'm blanking at the moment...
― J. Sam, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link
I kind of want to say "Gouge Away"...?
I think Gouge Away works. Frank Black's also got at least a few 5-bar cycles in his solo catalog:
Dog in the SandThe MarsistI Switched YouParry the Wind High, Low (last section)
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link
That reminded me of something similar at the end of "No. 13 Baby", but it turns out that is a 3 and a half bar repeated cycle.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link
it's 4/4 but has a 5-bar chord progression which is a bit awkward yeah but that's also one of the things that makes it interesting
― ufo, Thursday, 6 April 2023 23:00 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
re: Hey Ya lol
― imago, Friday, 7 April 2023 18:40 (eleven months ago) link