what happens if SOPA passes?

Yeah it was probably the copyright holders, but now if I get a single notification my account will be removed completely. I'm not saying that stuff wasn't infringing, but yeah I guess I need to go to Best Buy and purchase those Cornelius World Tour 1995/Takako Minekawa Live at NHK 1997/rare Trattoria videos DVD compilations.

They didn't really mention major labels at all, but I think it's implied, cos they are the ones who would issue a takedown.

The Copyright School page had a test of 8 questions on the right that I had to answer correctly. One was "Which of the following is not covered by copyright law: Music, Films, People, TV shows"

Mostly I'm worried about my remixes and stuff. They went into Fair Use but at that point they put up this legal definition that was comically too big and confusing for the poor cartoon character that got his start by bootlegging theater movies.

it's crazy. if youtube took down everything that had copyright violations they'd have like 100 videos left.

all of those videos would be "Chocolate Rain" and "Charlie Bit My Finger"

the whole "copyright school" thing sounds like something from the Simpsons!

is the axe really coming down in youtubeworld too?

The funny thing is, the claim was presented by Space Shower TV and not the actual artists or their label.

I'm not really defending what I did, it was copyrighted material somewhere in the world. The problem is that I was not sent a warning or notice or asked to take it down before they labelled it infringing and added a strike to my account. They made it clear that one more accusation of infringement is all that's needed to shut down my account. Now if they copyright holders had sent me a message saying "Take this down or we will report it" I would have gladly done so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InzDjH1-9Ns

Yeah, it kinda is like something from the Simpsons.

http://dajaz1.com/2012/01/25/after-the-smoke-vs-yelawolf-part-2/

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120127/09114517563/universal-music-claims-copyright-over-song-that-it-didnt-license-just-because-one-its-artists-rapped-to-it-leaked-track.shtml

1 - After The Smoke opens for Yelawolf, offers Yelawolf an instrumental to rap over
2 - Yelawolf makes a demo with it but passes on licensing it
3 - The demo leaks to youtube; ATS is upset but Yelawolf's crew apologizes saying 'leaks suck'
4 - Yelawolf's label Universal gets the ATS version of the song taken down for copyright infringement, YouTube refuses ATS' explanation

thank god VanityVEVO will still be on youtube

"YOU just copied someone else's CUNT tent"

http://www.salon.com/2012/01/31/where_does_the_anti_sopa_movement_go_next/singleton/

The James Boyle article he links to is incredibly inspiring, epiphanies per page

Wait is UMG asserting copyright over the ATS beat itself or just over the track with Yelawolf rapping over it?

Wait is UMG asserting copyright over the ATS beat itself or just over the track with Yelawolf rapping over it?

The beat itself iirc

oh nm it says that

probably just automated waveform detection. in a related case:

http://generationbass.com/2011/02/02/a-turk-and-a-killer-on-a-soundcloud/

1 - Gonjasufi & Gaslamp Killer put out an album with a lot of barely-altered loops from classic Turkish psychedelic rock
2 - Warp does not clear any samples, nor credit the originals
3 - Someone familiar with Turkish psyche uploads a mix with the originals to Soundcloud, beautiful & well researched
4 - The Gonjasufi version is so identical to the Erkin Koray original that it triggers the auto-waveform detection
5 - Warp serves Soundcloud with copyright infringement on their property

these people don't need any more power than they already have

holy shit ^

Hah I just did a search for one of my videos that was removed ("Count 2.6" by Pate) and found that nme.com had linked to it for some reason.

if that story about warp is true, i hope they get their fucking ass handed to them on a platter for that shit

Well its definitely true that Gonjasufi used a fuckload of barely tweaked samples without clearing or crediting any of them.

major labels are frequently guilty of publishing uncleared samples from indie labels / eastern pop; up until now, few minor labels are big enough to sue them. the new development is an internet environment that allows major labels to make the originals disappear. and they don't even mean to; it's an automated process -- based on the assumption that the major labels own whatever they say they do. so passing legislation that lets labels bypass the courts / government / any arbitration whatsoever seems like a really bad idea

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sopa-hollywood-gop-piracy-286648

not sure i buy the envisioned future of republicans as ip reformers, but it is sort of interesting

This is not about music but there's no better thread:

http://au.gamespot.com/news/ubisoft-drm-games-to-be-temporarily-unplayable-6349732

Publisher's antipiracy scheme will prevent customers from playing some of its Mac and PC games for an undetermined period of time during server transition starting February 7.

but the pirates wont have any downtime at all. Way to treat your paying customers.

Despite widespread opposition to SOPA from bloggers on the left, http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sopa-hollywood-gop-piracy-286648

not sure i buy the envisioned future of republicans as ip reformers, but it is sort of interesting

― lag∞n, Friday, February 3, 2012 12:36 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was fairly shocked when I read the 'for' and 'against' SOPA columns. For: Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, Franken, etc. etc. etc. -- Against: Bachmann, Paul, Issa, etc -- tea party central. Not mainstream republicans like Boehner but all the radical right who are ready to drum up self-righteous anger at the drop of a hat. So the article you posted actually seems to have it right: MPAA assumed Republican support and spent all their time courting / buying off the Democrats, and by the time they started publically reprimanding Democrats for not staying bought off, it had actually become a full on political win for the right

yeah ur right, i guess what i was taking issue w/is the idea that this is the beginning of a trend, cause you know theres nothing republicans love more than big business and the status quo

but i would love to be proven wrong!

Wow @ that Ubisoft thing, thats completely fucked.

it's perfect really

yeah ur right, i guess what i was taking issue w/is the idea that this is the beginning of a trend, cause you know theres nothing republicans love more than big business and the status quo

― lag∞n, Friday, February 3, 2012 8:46 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

all the companies with internet-realist business models are anti-SOPA. the Republicans are still big business; but they're seeing a new status quo rising up and they're betting on the teams that are clearly going to win

There, now you've made Cary Sherman cry, you horrible people:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/opinion/what-wikipedia-wont-tell-you.html

As it happens, the television networks that actively supported SOPA and PIPA didn’t take advantage of their broadcast credibility to press their case. That’s partly because “old media” draws a line between “news” and “editorial.” Apparently, Wikipedia and Google don’t recognize the ethical boundary between the neutral reporting of information and the presentation of editorial opinion as fact.

“old media” draws a line between “news” and “editorial.”
“old media” draws a line between “news” and “editorial.”
“old media” draws a line between “news” and “editorial.”
“old media” draws a line between “news” and “editorial.”
“old media” draws a line between “news” and “editorial.”
“old media” draws a line between “news” and “editorial.”

The hyperbolic mistruths, presented on the home pages of some of the world’s most popular Web sites, amounted to an abuse of trust and a misuse of power.

lmfao at "broadcast credibility"

fileserve has quietly gone back up, it seems

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0n09wyQwWk

what a creep

I just love the fact that he actually existed and lived his life

I think it would make an amazing movie

Despite widespread opposition to SOPA from bloggers on the left, http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sopa-hollywood-gop-piracy-286648

not sure i buy the envisioned future of republicans as ip reformers, but it is sort of interesting

― lag∞n, Friday, February 3, 2012 12:36 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was fairly shocked when I read the 'for' and 'against' SOPA columns. For: Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, Franken, etc. etc. etc. -- Against: Bachmann, Paul, Issa, etc -- tea party central. Not mainstream republicans like Boehner but all the radical right who are ready to drum up self-righteous anger at the drop of a hat. So the article you posted actually seems to have it right: MPAA assumed Republican support and spent all their time courting / buying off the Democrats, and by the time they started publically reprimanding Democrats for not staying bought off, it had actually become a full on political win for the right

― Milton Parker, Friday, February 3, 2012 12:41 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

this is kind of fascinating. i'm imagining a future republican party that's dominated by "real conservative" values of the sort that nonreligious conservatives love to tout: personal freedom, free enterprise, free internets, darwinian competition in all things, no handouts. opposed to this is a democratic party that advocates limited freedoms and federal oversight/assistance in the name of social justice and "decency", and which counts on the altruistic sympathies of religious leaders.

iatee otm

this is kind of fascinating. i'm imagining a future republican party that's dominated by "real conservative" values of the sort that nonreligious conservatives love to tout: personal freedom, free enterprise, free internets, darwinian competition in all things, no handouts. opposed to this is a democratic party that advocates limited freedoms and federal oversight/assistance in the name of social justice and "decency", and which counts on the altruistic sympathies of religious leaders.

― Little GTFO (contenderizer),

I believe that is the correct prediction for how the Third American Party System is going to be, just a matter of time for it to all play out. IMO we are in the death throes of the Second Party System.

i.e. the two main parties will basically be Libertarian-lite and Christian Democrat.

blech sorry, I didn't realize we were already up to the Fourth Party System so disregard my terminology... fucking poli-sci...

i.e. the two main parties will basically be Libertarian-lite and Christian Democrat.

Were it so? In the Anglo-American two party system we still adhere to, the two poles must contain multitudes. The multitudes are shifting generationally but should I live another forty years I would love to see the attritional demise of the 'conservative' wing of the Right (they will be outnumbered ethnically for one thing) but I don't even pray that there will be a Christian Democrat party of any interest. The libertarians and Xtiansists have tried to square the circle w/the Gospel and Mammonism for long enough but it cannot last.

well you have to take into account that I don't know what I'm talking about but giving my opinions nonetheless...

Do we have an ACTA thread?

http://hagenspan.com/NYMHall/players/A/ManAct.jpg

So as of today, RIP my most used shared-content site of the last half-year or so, library.nu. Also RIP ifile.it. Supposedly both casualties of an operation by a German association of publishers.