Producers, Recording Engineers and Studio Wizards: POLL RESULTS

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Not that I was 'hanging' on here for this....

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 18:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

gonna roll this first batch out kinda slow as people trickle back

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 18:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

50. Mutt Lange (82 points, 3 votes)

AC/DC, Shania Twain, Nickelback, Def Leppard, Outlaws, Foreigner, The Cars, Bryan Adams, Billy Ocean, Savoy Brown, The Corrs, Maroon 5

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 18:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

OH ILM I HAVE MISSED YOU SO MUCH.

Also, TOO LOW!

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 18:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

#50, That don't impress me much.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 19:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

Goddammit! I want to listen to Hysteria right now, but it's not on Spotify. :(

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 19:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 19:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think my wife appreciates Lange's ouevre way more than I do

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 19:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

Mutt's stuff, especially starting with Pyromania and Heartbeat City and moving into Shania's albums, is almost inhumanly crisp and artificial but it works in such a way (at least to me) that I'll suspend my disbelief and revel in all that sound.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 19:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

49. DJ Quik (83 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote)

Credits: Solo, AMG, 2nd II None, 2Pac, Nate Dogg, Hi-C, Snoop Dogg, others

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 19:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

48. Carl Craig (85 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote)

Credits: Solo, DJ mixes

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Nothing to comment on from me yet. I don't think I own any Lange productions, or have heard any other than a few big tracks on the tradio.

Martyr McFly (WmC), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

hooray! some great producers in there already! Was tempted to vote CC but a few other techno producers pipped him.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

He also co-produced this Herbie Hancock album:

Sadly though, the result isn't as good as it sounds on paper. Craig's own Innerzone Orchestra did "future jazz" better than Herbie on that album.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

(xx-post)

Tuomas, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

So yeah, voted for Craig, obviously, as he's done loads of great stuff. The Secret Tapes of Dr. Eich is one of my top 10 electronic albums of all time.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

Mutt's stuff, especially starting with Pyromania and Heartbeat City and moving into Shania's albums, is almost inhumanly crisp and artificial but it works in such a way (at least to me) that I'll suspend my disbelief and revel in all that sound.

It seems like his goal in refining his craft over the years was to eliminate any possible trace of spontaneity. Not that he ever achieved that completely, but next to his Shania records, Back In Black sounds like a field recording.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

Quik is great, very underrated in general but well loved around here

xxp

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

i need to give that herbie hancock album some love this week .. in the mood for it i think.

mark e, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

It seems like his goal in refining his craft over the years was to eliminate any possible trace of spontaneity. Not that he ever achieved that completely, but next to his Shania records, Back In Black sounds like a field recording.

IIRC, Ric Ocasek once told a story about how one day during the sessions for Heartbeat City, Mutt requested only the services of either Eliot Easton or Ben Orr. They did like 12-15 hours in the studio, upon the completeion of which the musician told Ric that, "(Mutt said) We're starting to get a good sound."

The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

47. Prince Paul (86 points, 4 votes)

Credits: Big Daddy Kane, Stetsasonic, De La Soul, Gravediggaz, Handsome Boy Modeling School, Queen Latifah, 3rd Bass, solo

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

IIRC, Ric Ocasek once told a story about how one day during the sessions for Heartbeat City, Mutt requested only the services of either Eliot Easton or Ben Orr. They did like 12-15 hours in the studio, upon the completeion of which the musician told Ric that, "(Mutt said) We're starting to get a good sound."

tbf if I had Mutt Lange's budget this is about how I would spend my studio time too

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

Nice, my Quik #1 vote got him on the list.

Jessie J Pink!man (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah definitely put him over the top. you were not alone tho - I was glad that we got enough ballots to ensure that no one got on the list just because of a single voter.

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah 38 ballots aint bad, I was worried for a while there.

Jessie J Pink!man (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

46. Glyn Johns (87 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote)

Credits: Bob Dylan, The Beatles, The Band, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Eagles, Eric Clapton, The Clash, The Steve Miller Band, Small Faces/Faces/Rod Stewart, Blue Öyster Cult, Midnight Oil, New Model Army, Fairport Convention, Humble Pie

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^^that's Glyn on the right, impossible dude to find good pictures of tbh

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

I voted Glyn #1. Glad to see he made it onto the poll.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

such a babyface!

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

Glyn far right, white hat, with dead "Eagles" (back cover of Desperado best pic of it I could find)

The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

45. The Dust Brothers (88 points, 5 votes)

Credits: Tone Loc, Young MC, Beastie Boys, Beck, uh Hanson, others

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 20:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

Johns was one of my last cuts to get down to 20, based mostly on Who's Next.

Martyr McFly (WmC), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

imho Johns' specialty was capturing that magic peculiar to drunken englishmen

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

44. Swizz Beats (89 points, 5 votes)

Credits: the LOX, DMX, Jay-Z, N.O.R.E., Busta Rhymes, Flipmode Squad, Jadakiss, Memphis Bleek, solo, others

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

no love for Swizzy eh

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

43. David Briggs (91 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)

Credits: Neil Young, Royal Trux

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

Also: Spirit.

The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol i have 3 votes come up already :DDDDDD The guy who did Ruff Ryders Anthem! The guy who did Heartz of Men! The guy who did Buddy*!

Ironically didn't produce most of Stetsasonic's best work though - who woulda thunk it?

Ravaging Rick Rude (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

xp Nick Cave too, according to Wikipedia.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

oooh right forgot that one. The only Nick Cave album I own and enjoy listening to - sounds amazing

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ironically didn't produce most of Stetsasonic's best work though - who woulda thunk it?

Stetsasonic is really an odd beast - so many dudes! Certainly the biggest, most diverse crew up until Wu-Tang, and unlike Wu-Tang they had a bunch of members producing beats. Paul seems kind of underused/underrepresented in their catalog but he was really young/just coming up.

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

xp The Royal Trux album, "Thank You" which he produced sounds fuckin' A, great production work on that record.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

I have kind of a love-hate relationship with it - there's some great tune on Thank You but often I find the "lead bass"-style of playing used throughout to be kind of distracting

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

42. TIE
Xenomania (94 points, 4 votes)


Credits: Girls Aloud, Cher, Kylie Minogue, Dannii Minogue, Pet Shop Boys, Sugababes, others

AND
Gary Katz (94 points, 4 votes)


Credits: STEELY DAN, Diana Ross, 10cc, Joe Cocker, Thomas Jefferson Kaye

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

I had never heard of Xenomania before this poll fwiw

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

love how varied this list is already! voted for Quik and Katz

some dude, Wednesday, 19 October 2011 21:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

41. TIE
Jimmy Miller (95 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote)


Credits: the Rolling Stones, Primal Scream, the Plasmatics, Motorhead

AND
Norman Whitfield (95 points, 5 votes)


Credits: Marvin Gaye, the Temptations, Rose Royce, Gladys Knight & The Pips

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

glad my #1 c2 vote got him on the list at least.

second only to popcorn (or something), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^two I missed. Jimmy Miller also did Traffic.

Xpost

The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 October 2011 22:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

I didn't vote in this (I never do!), but these popular people would have got my votes if I had:

Steve Albini
George Martin
Brian Eno
Quincy Jones
Holger Czukay
Kate Bush
Timbaland
The Neptunes

I was surprised to see none of these mentioned at all:

Jim O’Rourke
James Murphy
Andrew Weatherall
Chas Chandler
Flood
Curtis Mayfield
Fela Kuti
John McIntyre

And I probably would have voted, or seriously considered voting for, several of these:

Mark Hollis / Tim Friese-Green / Phill Brown
Graham Sutton
Phil and Paul Hartnoll / Dan Snaith / Kieran Hebden / other electronic dudes who’ve never really produced anyone else
Ethan Johns
Jamie Watson (Long Fin Killie)
Brian Deck (Califone)
Guy Stevens

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 21 October 2011 13:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

thanks for this Shakey. couldn't bring myself to vote, sorry - I'm sure I could name 20 favourite producers/engineers but ranking them is another story.

nonetheless really enjoyed the rundown. tie between Premier and Visconti the highlight for reasons I can't quite verbalise

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Friday, 21 October 2011 14:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

complete absence of women from the list is pretty mad, not gonna blame the voters for that one tho

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Friday, 21 October 2011 14:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

if you squint a bit, Eno at least looks like a woman in that pic

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Friday, 21 October 2011 14:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

complete absence of women from the list is pretty mad, not gonna blame the voters for that one tho

yeah - this is a "man's world" type of profession, for the most part, and the deeply entrenched sexism of the industry has kept it that way for decades

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 October 2011 15:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

I mean apart from Kate Bush (who received a couple votes) and Joan Jett I"m at a loss for big names

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 October 2011 15:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

roy thomas baker in only one ballot & no jon landau is kinda surprising

or bob thiele or george avakian

Roy Thomas Baker was on 2 ballots. those other guys didn't get any votes.

suppose things might have been different if you had voted tho lol

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 October 2011 15:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

Impressive CV for someone who seems not to have received even one vote!

all those people are great/have done great things, but none of those great things involved Don Was. I guess Cosmic Thing sounds pretty good...

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 October 2011 15:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

my kinda strange, highly subjective ballot was:

Timbaland
The DFA (was I really the only one?)
The Neptunes
Yasutaka Nakata
Steve Albini
Noon
Jimmy Page
Maciej Cieślak
Daft Punk
Bloodshy & Avant
Autechre
Greg Kurstin
Dave Fridmann
Phil Spector
Phil Ek
Danja
Max Martin
Dr Luke
Todd Edwards
Don Zientara

I purposely tossed the historical importance to hell in favour of choosing at-the-moment personal favs.

V79, Friday, 21 October 2011 15:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

Arthur Baker got 3 votes, 70 points

xp

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 October 2011 15:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

>> Impressive CV for someone who seems not to have received even one vote!

> all those people are great/have done great things, but none of those great things involved Don Was. I guess Cosmic Thing sounds pretty good...

I was aware of that (of course!).... it looks far more impressive than it is, because everyone on that list was long past their prime (save for the B-52's and Bonnie Raitt), which is no doubt why he was ignored here. He's also another of those producers that intentionally stays out of the way and just records what the band plays, kind of like Albini except that he won't throw a fit if you call him a producer. But not having a signature production sound like that of, say, Trevor Horn makes it even easier to forget he's there at all.

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Friday, 21 October 2011 16:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

suppose things might have been different if you had voted tho lol

I know, I like discussing these stuff but putting a ballot together is the sort of thing that's like I'm not against doing it but it would take me a couple years and if I threw one together just to be in the poll well that'd be exactly what I never liked about polls but that's not on the poll that's just me

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 21 October 2011 17:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

so for you, participating in a poll is like voting for a Democrat

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 October 2011 17:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

except that I end up voting for the Democrat because what the fuck why not whereas putting together a list of who I actually feel are the best producers would be an exercise I'd take seriously

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 21 October 2011 17:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

Shakey, got a full list of the voting for posting or linking?

Martyr McFly (WmC), Friday, 21 October 2011 17:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

Phil Spector 664
Brian Eno 562
Timbaland 493
George Martin 455
Lee Perry 355
RZA 348
Conny Plank 306
The Bomb Squad 287
Giorgio Moroder 278
Chic Organisation 275
Dr. Dre 254
Brian Wilson 248
Steve Albini 247
Martin Hannett 246
Joe Meek 245
Tony Visconti 242
DJ Premier 242
King Tubby 239
Trevor Horn 226
Teo Macero 207
Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis 180
rudy van gelder 176
The Neptunes 172
Rick Rubin 168
Holland/Dozier/Holland 165
Tom Dowd 141
Willie Mitchell 140
Jimmy Page 139
George Clinton 136
Martin Rushent 134
Thom Bell 131
Tom Wilson 124
Les Paul 122
Pete Rock 118
Chris Thomas 117
Prince 115
John Leckie 110
Geoff Emerick 109
Todd Rundgren 101
Joe Boyd 98
Marley Marl 96
Norman Whitfield 95
Jimmy Miller 95
Gary Katz 94
Xenomania 94
David Briggs 91
swizz beatz 89
The Dust Brothers 88
Glyn Johns 87
Prince Paul 86
Carl Craig 85
DJ Quik 83
mutt lange 82
Allen Toussaint 82
The Dream 77
Bloodshy & Avant 76
Kanye West 74
Daft Punk 73
Stephen Hague 71
Arthur Baker 70
Gamble and Huff 69
Shel Talmy 68
Max Martin 68
Mike Thorne 68
George "Shadow" Morton 67
Sam Phillips 67
Juan Atkins 65
Neptunes 64
Frankie Knuckles/Def Mix 63
Geoff Barrow 62
David Axelrod 62
Mannie Fresh 61
Lindsey Buckingham 59
Dr. Luke 58
Kate Bush 57
Danja 57
Nigel Godrich 53
John Cale 53
Eddie Kramer 52
Ricardo Villalobos 52
Basic Channel 51
Dave Fridmann 51
Andy Johns 50
Just Blaze 47
sly stone 46
Smokey Robinson 44
Norman Smith 43
Organized Noize 42
Creed Taylor 42
Jack Endino 41
Arthur Russell 41
Richard D. James 40
Daniel Lanois 40
Patrick Cowley 40
R. Kelly 40
Kevin Shields 39
Frank Zappa 38
The DFA 36
quincy jones 36
Jason Pierce 36
Larry Levan 36
Adrian Sherwood 36
Large Professor 35
Cosimo Matassa 33
derrick may 33
Nick Lowe 33
Masters at Work 33
Louis Barron 33
J Dilla 33
Babyface 33
Boris Blank 33
Phil Elverum 33
Mike Chapman 31
Steven Stapleton 30
Yasutaka Nakata 30
Tommy Wright III 30
Alan Lomax 30
Ted Templeman 30
Madlib 30
Leiber/Stoller 28
Clive Langer and Alan Winstanley 28
Don Zientara 27
Wiley 27
Andy Wallace 27
Shep Pettibone 27
Dj Skrew 27
Bumps Blackwell 25
Noon 25
Wolfgang Voight 25
Roger Moutenot 25
Easy Mo Bee 25
Terry Melcher 25
Pole (aka Stefan Betke) 25
Jean-Pierre Massiera 24
ewan pearson 24
Frank Wilson 24
KLC 24
Michael B. Tretow 24
The Beatnuts 23
Maciej Cieślak 23
Chaz Jankel 23
Psycho Les 23
Carl Davis 23
dave jerden 23
James Brown 23
Roy Thomas Baker 23
Chris Desjardins 23
Burt Bacharach & Hal David 23
Meshell Ndegeocello 22
Trent Reznor 22
Chris Blackwell 22
Andrew Loog Oldham 22
Tricky 21
Huey P. Meaux 21
Nesuhi Ertegun 21
Kurt Graupner 21
Hugh Jones 21
Gary Kellgren 21
Ant Banks 21
Jerry Wexler 20
Autechre 20
Leslie Kong 20
Rick Jarrard 20
tom middleton 20
Burnt Friedman 20
Dallas Austin 20
Diamond D 20
stock-aitken-waterman 20
Patrick Adams 19
Hugh Padgham 19
Thomas Dolby 19
Greg Kurstin 19
Richie Hawtin 19
Roopek (aka Roope Kinnunen) 19
Al Schmitt 19
Butch Vig 19
Teddy Riley 19
Sasu Ripatti 19
Harvey Fuqua 19
Wharton Tiers 18
Rod Stewart 18
Don Fleming 18
kevin saunderson 18
Chips Moman 18
Dennis Bovell 18
Mitch Easter 18
Stuart Price 17
stargate 17
rob playford 17
Mad Professor 17
Paul Savage 16
Phil Ek 16
Mitchell Froom 16
RedOne 16
Steve Lillywhite 16
Jeremy Harding 16
DJ Toomp 16
Steve Gurley 15
Dave Hassinger 15
Tony Visconti 15
Dan Lissvik 15
Isaac Hayes/David Porter 15
Owen Bradley 15
rodney jerkins 14
Frank Davis 14
Arif Mardin 14
maurizio 14
Chinn-Chapman 13
cajmere 13
Norman Petty 13
?uestlove 13
Jon Brion 13
Flood 13
Ben Liebrand 13
Daz Dillinger 13
Ryan Leslie 13
rich harrison 13
Vince Clarke 12
Joe Gibbs 12
Todd Edwards 12
Cowboy Jack Clement 12
Bangladesh 12
Da Beatminerz 12
E-Swift 12
Jim O'Rourke 12
she'kspere 12
Terror Danjah 11
Lil' Jon 11
4 Hero 11
Dangermouse 11
Giovanni Bonadrini 11
Sly and Robbie 11
lyndsey buckingham 11
Klaus Schulze 11

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

Tony Visconti seems to be there twice! So I guess he didn't tie with DJ Premier after all

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

hmmm you're right, that's weird

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

Allen Touissant just missed the cut! Injustice!

Melle Mel and the Coconuts (thewufs), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

Toussaint, I mean

Melle Mel and the Coconuts (thewufs), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

xxxpost
As is Lindsey Buckingham.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

Before the results were even posted, I started to think there oughta be a follow-up poll excluding every name that made the top 50. I mean, every record producer ever is kind of too huge to be narrowed down to one canonical list, which only becomes more obvious when you see some of the names that fell short here.

Very cool poll, though. Thanks for doing this, Shakey.

Melle Mel and the Coconuts (thewufs), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Neptunes *and* The Neptunes?

V79, Friday, 21 October 2011 18:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

man I went through this list multiple times (pretty much after every ballot came in) to check for duplicates/vote splitting and I STILL fucked this up arggh

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

I guess the Neptunes would have placed a bit higher then... Lindsey Buckingham still wouldn't have made the cut tho

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 21 October 2011 18:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 21 October 2011 20:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

female producers i would have considered voting for: anjali dutt, jessica corcoran

ballarat organ quartet (electricsound), Friday, 21 October 2011 23:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

Damn, knew I shoulda checked ILM's status on Wednesday rather than risk missing the live results rollout! Oh well, here's my pedestrian ballot:

1.George Martin
2.Rudy Van Gelder
3.Jimmy Page
4.Norman Whitfield
5.Jimmy Miller
6.Giorgio Moroder
7.George Clinton
8.Todd Rundgren
9.Tom Dowd
10.Nesuhi Ertegun
11.The Bomb Squad
12.Brian Eno
13.Holland/Dozier/Holland
14.Jack Endino
15.Tom Wilson
16.Frank Zappa
17.Steve Albini
18.Rick Rubin
19.Martin Rushent
20.Eddie Kramer

I probably wouldn't have voted at all had Shakey Mo not lamented the mere trickle of ballots as deadline approached. My main criteria for inclusion was simply that I loved these guys' sound; that's the rationale behind maybe 15 of these choices; George Martin, Eno, Ertegun and the two Toms have extramusical reasons for inclusion. And a final thanks to Shakey Mo for his time & effort (more than he could've expected obv)

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 22 October 2011 07:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

Has anybody lobbied for Mike Chapman?

I didn't vote but would probably have thrown Chapman a vote for Parallel Lines and Eat to the Beat alone

(and I don't really listen to much glam rock and appreciate that Chinnichap became a byword for canned and formulaic but that is a pretty amazingly SHINY sound right there)

anyway I am glad to see Plank do well and have a few new names to check out as a result of this poll and people's ballots

how do i shot slime mould voltron form (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 22 October 2011 10:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

so yeah, thanks Shakey!

how do i shot slime mould voltron form (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 22 October 2011 10:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

maurizio and Basic Channel the same thing, yes?

kraudive, Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

still wouldn't make it into the top 50 though

kraudive, Sunday, 23 October 2011 12:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

So, hold on, absolutely nobody voted for Holger Czukay?

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

and I don't really listen to much glam rock and appreciate that Chinnichap became a byword for canned and formulaic but that is a pretty amazingly SHINY sound right there

Mike Leander!!!!!!!

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Sunday, 23 October 2011 13:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

alan moulder-0. my 19 year old me weeps. dave fridmann gets 51 points. not that i voted but that guy is the worst.

keythhtyek, Sunday, 23 October 2011 16:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

Fucking hate Fridmann's sound these days.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 23 October 2011 17:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah fridmann would've gotten a lot of 'anti' votes if that had been part of the poll

some dude, Sunday, 23 October 2011 22:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

I actually considered Mike Leander!

Also....

Neptunes *and* The Neptunes?

― V79, Friday, October 21, 2011 2:32 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

man I went through this list multiple times (pretty much after every ballot came in) to check for duplicates/vote splitting and I STILL fucked this up arggh

I guess the Neptunes would have placed a bit higher then... Lindsey Buckingham still wouldn't have made the cut tho

― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, October 21, 2011 2:48 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark

Wait a min, whuzziss?

Lindsey Buckingham 59
lyndsey buckingham 11

RECOUNT!

(aah he still wouldn't have placed, but now I feel guilty because his presence on my ballot would have catapulted him into the top 50)

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Monday, 24 October 2011 04:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

jeez, gary usher didn't even get a mention

buzza, Monday, 24 October 2011 04:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

I strongly considered him. Byrds, Dick Dale, some Beach Boys-related

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Monday, 24 October 2011 05:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

> yeah fridmann would've gotten a lot of 'anti' votes if that had been part of the poll

― some dude, Sunday, October 23, 2011 6:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

My off-the-dome 'anti' top 3:

3. Jeff Lynne
2. Joe Thomas
1. Walter Afanasieff, who repeatedly employs every cliched production frill imagineable in failed attempts to build emotion as a song progresses (thundering snare hits! weepy bowed orchestral strings! raising the key and slowing down just before the last verse!) for the likes of Celion Dion, Michael Bolton, and Mariah Carey.

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Monday, 24 October 2011 05:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

3. Jeff Lynne

waaaaaht dude those ELO records sound amazing

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 October 2011 15:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

True, but I hate the ELO sheen he put on other peoples records -- Edmunds, Harrison, Wilburys.

Martyr McFly (WmC), Monday, 24 October 2011 16:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah not gonna argue about that

unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 October 2011 17:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

I like how lush Lynne's production can be, but can we lose that synthetic sheen that drapes everything, all the buzzy synths, etc.? It's like the finished product was processed through a volume compressor before being pressed to disc. Agreed that aesthetic worked for ELO (although even there it was needlessly gimmicky - did "I Can't Get It Out Of My Head" really need the vocals processed through a wah-wah pedal?), but it's all wrong for his '80s-and-beyond production for others.

Everything else is secondary (Lee626), Monday, 24 October 2011 20:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Lynne's the only guy whose "overproduction" I've ever complained about

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 24 October 2011 21:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

Pretty good Glyn Johns interview on Michael Shelley's show on WFMU this past Saturday: http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/58051

Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Tuesday, 18 November 2014 13:07 (1 month ago) Permalink

Killer Lynne productions playlist here:

http://open.spotify.com/user/kfxmannen/playlist/7hRT2CIT29A3HcwmMkDkNO

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 13:18 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

Thanks for the link to the Glyn interview, WilliamC! I've been meaning to pick up his autobio.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 14:50 (4 weeks ago) Permalink


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