Most tedious thing said by worthless VHS idiot JOHN MAUS in p4k interview

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You don't know how happy it makes me that the days of the record store are coming to an end. 16
We're talking about ringtones while the armed forces that we pay for with our tax dollars are making naked human pyrami 11
I've never been able to wrap my head around selling merch. 7
all this stuff only forfeits its right to exist when it mimics history's verdicts and finds itself forbidden to reverse 7
[Odd Future] have an attitude we could all learn from 6
I hate the concert hall-- one of the most rotten and ignorant places on earth 4
One can't help but sound like a douchebag when talking about the books... I was very impressed by Jean-Luc Nancy's Corp 3
"South Park" is great and so is "Metalocalypse". 2
It's the Brotha Lynch Hung of video games. 2


james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 22:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

hi i'm john maus, please listen to my new album on spotify

markers, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 22:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

i literally know of him from constantly interrupting my trying to listen to creed

markers, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 22:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

I can't believe pitchfork called him and pitched him the softball equivalent of "whats your favorite color" and he managed to fuck up the answers this bad.

I'll never be able to listen to his terrible music the same way again.

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 22:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

i liked jean-luc nancy's book about community

max, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 22:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

"the inoperative community"

max, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

if i had my druthers it would be ilx assigned reading and then wed all have to write essays about it w/r/t the suggest ban system

max, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sweet... Can't wait to sell my vinyl copy for $150 on eBay in six months

Clarke B., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol @ p4k readers getting trolled by JOHN MAUS

Magic (Lamp), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

^ xp I was just posting the same thing.

classic albums live! (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

That is: he is successfully trolling you

classic albums live! (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

lmfao @ the subhead "Academy Records taking his off the shelf in response to a shitty P4K interview."

markers, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

This is pretty clearly a giant pisstake, though, right? I mean: "We're talking about ringtones while the armed forces that we pay for with our tax dollars are making naked human pyramids we're talking on ringtones." Either that or the guy just has NO filter. Which makes for kind of an interesting interview in its own right, right? I mean, am I alone in finding this one of the more interesting interviews I've read in a long time? The record store comments were unfortunate, yes, but were they serious?! This was a meta-interview IMHO, and I'm glad it's riling people up.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

Alternately, I predict this thread and all ensuing post-interview talk to basically run like this:

Clarke B., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

if this was one of the more interesting interviews you've read in a long time, you should probably be more selective in your reading. The guy is clearly a self-hating clown with no concept of the world in which he's trying to function.

Reach his press contact here: christ✧✧✧@motormouthme✧✧✧.c✧✧

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh, i meant christine @ motormouthmedia.com

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

and to be honest, if a guy is telling me he wants me to lose my job and he wants my employer to go out of business, i'm not going to sell his product & make any money for him, or for those who release it.

one dis leads to another (ian), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

Hey man, that's fair and I'm sure I'd feel the same way if I were in your position. I mean, I'm not saying I don't want to punch him, but his answers weren't exactly predictable. I liked the way the interview felt a little like he was fucking with us the whole time and a little like he had no idea what a doucheface he was coming across as.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

'we must become the pitiless censors of our opinions about record stores'

Magic (Lamp), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

all this stuff only forfeits its right to exist when it mimics history's verdicts and finds itself forbidden to reverse

Can any mods make this the description tag for ILM? Or any IL at all? I wanna see that on a regular basis.

Sean Connery dressed up like a teddy bear (R Baez), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

'we must become the pitiless censors of our opinions about record stores'

HAHAHAHA

Clarke B., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Crucial sentences about "Yakety Sax" sadly not included in poll

preschoolin' life (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

cuz yakety sax stuff was otm

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

that maus is pretty adorable

sarahel, Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

tbh john maus should join the military and perhaps have some sense bullied into him.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

then he can feel good about what he's doing and not have to talk about books.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

did ppl see the video on p4k that's like his live show with clips of him talking mixed in?

i'm not going to speculate on if he's joking/if he's clueless/etc. but whatever the case he doesn't really seem like a cool dude imo.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

ffs the fact that he's a philosophy professor kind of makes sense--you'd have to have a special sort of disconnection from the everyday world to spout the kind of nonsense he's keen on.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

This was a meta-interview IMHO, and I'm glad it's riling people up.

― Clarke B., Wednesday, August 3, 2011 7:27 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I have def said things like this in the past about people. But there's no way some trend-hopping dipshit who made his name ripping off ARIEL FUCKING PINK is smart enough to pull media shenanigans like that. More like "I've never done an interview in my life so I have no idea that i sound like a pompous windbag."

Traditionally before we made our artists heroes they have a few years to do zine interviews and local things and fuck up and learn what not to say and how not to say it. But THIS is what happens when the accelerated blog culture forces us to play firsties firsties firsties all the time, and thus pull some dysfunctional social retard from obscurity and shove a microphone in his face and tweetblast his moron dribblings to 1,000,000 twitter followers. It's not cute or funny, but sad.

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

honestly i wish i could ever clown you as hard as you clown yourself, day after day

Magic (Lamp), Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

and ilx's lone Altered Zones stan peeps up

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I feel like I personally really can't tell if it was super-calculated or super-naive, but still... It's nice to see something that doesn't just flow along like you expect it to.

Traditionally before we made our artists heroes they have a few years to do zine interviews and local things and fuck up and learn what not to say and how not to say it.

And I'd wager that that's one reason why people got excited about zines and smaller media back in the day--because people were allowed to fuck up, allowed not to be pros, allowed to say "the wrong thing" and "expose" themselves. It's not as if I don't understand where the hostility toward Maus is coming from, but I can't exactly say it makes me comfortable.

Clarke B., Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

altered zones.... damn... hits p hard...

whiney cmon i dont get how this shit turns you into some like 'communist president' blog commentating tea party retard where you seem incapable of understanding basic facts or the pov of anyone who isnt you but its just kinda... nagl? i mean a) who cares and b) srsly who cares. hes obv trolling & if hes not than... its still p lol tbh.

Magic (Lamp), Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

He's just a dumbass is all

james blood ulver (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

public apology via twitter full of double-talk and naivete re: the response to the interview. last sentence revels in self-loathing.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

wait, what's wrong with Altered Zones and ARIEL FUCKING PINK?

lizard tails, a self-regenerating food source for survival (wk), Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

alterzoned zones: lol chillwave. ariel fucking pink: rancid foie gras

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

I thought whiney was the dude who is super into chillwave!?

lizard tails, a self-regenerating food source for survival (wk), Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh wait, nm he's the guy with the trucker hat huh? my bad

lizard tails, a self-regenerating food source for survival (wk), Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

Traditionally before we made our artists heroes they have a few years to do zine interviews and local things and fuck up and learn what not to say and how not to say it. But THIS is what happens when the accelerated blog culture forces us to play firsties firsties firsties all the time, and thus pull some dysfunctional social retard from obscurity and shove a microphone in his face and tweetblast his moron dribblings to 1,000,000 twitter followers. It's not cute or funny, but sad.

i prefer this john maus ridiculousness a thousand times over manicured, professional, acc-to-script interviews. i already have baseball interviews for that. rather read something that actually reflects the artist's personality than some boring shit that conceals it.

Peepee Soaked Heckhole (zachlyon), Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

I wish everyone who is (rightfully) upset about my Pitchfork �guest list� would grant me the benefit of the doubt, but I suppose that is too much to ask seeing as how I did come off so incredibly mean. I can�t understand why anyone would think I was referring to the small DIY record shops of the world (the only type that would carry my records in the first place, and many of which I have played in) and not the Megastores of the world, but I guess I didn�t make that clear enough. For whatever it is worth now, the only reason I didn�t make that clear enough was because I foolishly supposed anyone reading the �guest list� would grant that I was referring to the latter and not the former. I mean, what could anyone possibly have against the small DIY record stores of the world (unless they worked for one of the big ones)? If anything, by saying �I�m glad to see [big] record stores closing down� I imagined I was speaking on behalf of small DIY record stores everywhere! What I�d ask anyone who is (rightfully) upset to remember is that the �guest list� was torn unrecognizably from its context as a telephone call. The interviewer asked me what my favorite record store was, and I jokingly responded �torrents.com� or something like that, laughing about how wonderful it is that music and movies are becoming easier and easier to get for free. I then explained to him that where I grew up we had none of these little DIY type stores but only the big chains, and that I once worked in a Megastore and it was very unpleasant. Finally, I began to go on about the experience, which I cannot imagine I am alone in having, of being looked up-and-down by a snobby clerk when purchasing a record, or of not having enough money to get all the records one wants. I thought all of this would get laughs of identification, not accusations of my wanting small record store owners to die penniless! (Why would anyone, especially a musician, want this?) I hope those little store owners would grant me that I wasn�t talking about them. But perhaps the damage is done. Finally, I just want anyone who is (rightfully) upset to know, that whenever I get up on the �platforms� offered in interviews and so on, I always try to imagine a world emancipated from interested exchange and the extortion of surplus. Even if it is a little too naive or too utopian of me, I don�t see what is wrong with trying imagine a world where we share everything with each other for free. I always joke with the promoters and the labels about the contradictions involved in doing this from our standpoint, and I guess I just thought I could do it with the record stores as well. If what I said came across as anything other than this desire then I can only assure you that that was not my intent. The fact that anyone would react to anything I say is still a novelty to me, and I�m afraid I�ve made a terrible use of that novelty.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

aw

markers, Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

this is disingenuous bullshit unless you have frequently been "looked up and down" by the "snobby clerk" at uh, best buy or fye.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

xpost

♪♫ i don't know who u r, but i, i'm w/ u ♪♫

markers, Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

CAD: they are two different sentences. i think you are being a bit disingenuous.

sarahel, Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

i prefer this john maus ridiculousness a thousand times over manicured, professional, acc-to-script interviews. i already have baseball interviews for that. rather read something that actually reflects the artist's personality than some boring shit that conceals it.

There are plenty of compelling interview to read, most of them just aren't given by indie rock musicians.

one dis leads to another (ian), Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

xp i'm not sure what you mean? i'm comparing what he was actually saying in the orig. interview with his assertion that he was actually talking about megastores (which uh are also not noted as great places to buy $20 lps, another thing he says in the interview).

call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

i thought you were referring to the clarification he posted.

sarahel, Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

er, you posted it.

sarahel, Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

also a one day festival with eight stages x twelve acts (or whatever) is not going to have the most engaged people doing sound - particularly if they either have to i. deal with another one-day festival with same the next day or ii. bugger off and get out of the way for whoever is

i wonder if there's any attempt made to maintain continuity in re: what kind of music tent x is, between underage and field day and the apple cart. (the latter has spoken-word and comedy and possibly cooking tents so is possibly an outlier)

thomp, Monday, 8 August 2011 15:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

field day made me feel bored with the idea of festivals, except when i ate things. though, to be honest, i could have just gone to venn st. market.

thomp, Monday, 8 August 2011 15:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

also one friend turned up with a girl not his girlfriend and another friend's girlfriend left with another guy, so all told it was an interesting day

thomp, Monday, 8 August 2011 15:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

@ Plaxico festivals can have great sound, just not in Victoria Park.

classic albums live! (Ówen P.), Monday, 8 August 2011 15:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

i got super bored about ten minutes into omar souleyman and left to go to a party instead.

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Monday, 8 August 2011 15:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

fuck tents imo. worst way to enjoy live music. i find them unbearable - especially dance tents. what's the point if you're so squashed you can't dance?

Why'd You Wanna Tweet Me So Bad? (dog latin), Monday, 8 August 2011 15:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

(or Hyde Park, or whatever park it is they have Pitchfork).

classic albums live! (Ówen P.), Monday, 8 August 2011 15:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

after konono no 1 started empty and ended with a packed tent i made a bet that the opposite would happen with souleyman, and only hardened pseuds would remain. i lost

xposts

unrelatedly, i listened to john maus again today. i enjoy the first album a great deal, and would like to thank whiney g weingarten for bringing it to my attention

thomp, Monday, 8 August 2011 15:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

anyway like i said this was probably in part due to me being mid mood crash and chronically falling asleep at spontaneous moments but yeah i've generally found that at festivals the sound in open air stages is considerably better than in tents. tents tend to be super echoey.

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Monday, 8 August 2011 15:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

this baths album is pretty good too

thomp, Monday, 8 August 2011 15:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

THEY CALL ME THE BELIEVEEEEEERRRRR

Sonny Chevrotain (dog latin), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 13:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

remember this guy?

cream of some young dude (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 14:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Monday, 5 September 2011 23:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

The interview is better than most people's interviews.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

he's pretty cute imo; wkiw and talk about Adorno w/this guy

sarahel, Tuesday, 6 September 2011 23:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

i have the phrase "worthless VHS idiot" permanently in head now

goole, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 00:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah the thread was awesome. Sorry cute nervous Maus guy we all love you!

wolves lacan, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 01:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

Reach his press contact here: christ✧✧✧@motormouthme✧✧✧.c✧✧

That contact is for John Witchmaus

moley, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 03:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol

I CARE

thistle supporter (mcoll), Wednesday, 7 September 2011 03:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

The record is still really amazing...

Clarke B., Saturday, 24 September 2011 23:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

THEY CALL ME THE BELIIIIIEEEEEVER

The Invisible Superstars (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

:-D

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can anyone enlighten me on some of his lyrics? I mean the man talks in rambling curlicues during interviews and then his songs tend to have just a couple of lines about Jackie Chan flashing across the world. I know very little about critical theory...

The Invisible Superstars (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean the man talks in rambling curlicues during interviews and then his songs tend to have just a couple of lines about Jackie Chan flashing across the world.

lol

plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

xp neither does Maus

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

BOOM!

The Invisible Superstars (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Still haven't entirely unravelled my initial misconception that this fellow was the long-lost third (and now decidely late) walker brother, returned to critical attention :(

mark s, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 12:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

When I meet other Ariel Pink fans, I feel like we understand each other, until I discover they also like John Maus, and then I wonder what it is they like about Ariel Pink, because the two are not even in the same ballpark.

Has anyone seen Exit Through the Gift Shop? I think of Ariel Pink as Banksy, and John Maus as Mr. Brainwash.

Now, if John Maus turns out to be an elaborate hoax, a Kaufmann-esque artistic statement created by Ariel Pink himself, then I would be the first to applaud both of them. I still wouldn't listen to John Maus' music, though...

PublicRadio, Thursday, 12 April 2012 21:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh, okay.

Was it okay to like Maus when he was playing keyboards for Ariel?

polyphonic, Thursday, 12 April 2012 21:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

Whatever scam they are running, it's getting both of them lots of alt pussy.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 12 April 2012 21:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

aka fleshlights

curtains will become your drapes (Ówen P.), Thursday, 12 April 2012 21:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

pretty much agree w/ public radio's post

dmr, Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

valuable new posters

thomp, Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

note: it is possible to like things that "are not even in the same ballpark." some people manage to like a great many different things. god knows why, but they do.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

also: my whole world's coming apart is a good song. not too concerned abt whether banksy or mr brainwash gets to claim credit.

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

i think the poster is referring to "the ballpark of quality"

call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

no such thing

BEMORE SUPER FABBY (contenderizer), Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

which one is the cool one? that is the one i like

bnw, Thursday, 12 April 2012 22:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah this is excellent. If he keeps this balance of clear but lo-fi his fingerprint will stay on the material. It's like a more sophisticated weathered sound. Well done.

The keyboardist and the drummer from Lilys are in the Haunted Grafitti now? Wow.

By the way I've been trying to get into John Maus for the last two days. Talk about a poor man's Ariel Pink. It's like he's trying to copy every aspect of Ariel Pink and just blowing it. That's got to be a bummer to shoot for crappy and fail.

― PublicRadio, Sunday, 21 December 2008 09:34 (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thomp, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

there's so much bad music being made right now, who has time to hate on any one particular artist?

one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 13 April 2012 00:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

buzza, Friday, 13 April 2012 00:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

imagine the inner life of an ilx troll in 2012

ogmor, Friday, 13 April 2012 20:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I agree with contenderizer, though, that "My Whole World's Coming Apart" is a good song. I like "Navy Seals", too.

If you split the difference between Ariel Pink and John Maus, you get Part Time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhia_RlurkI

PublicRadio, Saturday, 28 April 2012 01:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

hi i'm john maus, please listen to my new album on spotify

― markers, Wednesday, August 3, 2011 6:52 PM

markers, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 02:47 (11 months ago) Permalink

he has a new album?

not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 04:29 (11 months ago) Permalink

I still listen to We Must Become on a fairly regular basis.

Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 06:25 (11 months ago) Permalink

i sang rights for gays so much at work that everybody was singing it on friday.

― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:40 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rights for gays.

― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:40 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh yeah.

― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:40 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:)

― lacanthrope (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:49 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

plax otm

― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 7 August 2011 21:05 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

read the whole thread and this is the only place it got good

THE SONIC UNREGULATED ELECTRIC CATFISH (imago), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 08:05 (11 months ago) Permalink

'It Takes Time' is kind of the perfect pop song

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 10:31 (11 months ago) Permalink


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