EMP Pop Conference 2012 -- NYC

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omg, gotta flee.

Nope, you're attending every presentation. (Don't ask me how.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 20:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

if Alex in Montreal does all of them? :)

Dr Morbois de Bologne (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 21:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

Amazing!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 November 2011 21:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Sent!

Melle Mel and the Coconuts (thewufs), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 03:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

sent! ~fingers crossed~

smokestack lightning (m coleman), Wednesday, 16 November 2011 13:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Eric W. on FB:

I am happy (now that I've slept) to announce that the combined EMP Pop Conference at the NYU Clive Davis Institute of Recorded Music and IASPM-US conference, taking place next March, drew proposals from 500 people. That says something great about the number of folks devoted to intellectual work on popular music. Special thanks to host Jason King, whose response to the crazy figures was "We never do anything small, if you haven't noticed."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 November 2011 16:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

maria and i will be there for this. buy us beer every chance you get. leaving the kiddies at home.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 00:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'll be there too hopefully. FAP!

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 00:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Heck to the yes. Tickets bought, will be arriving with my sweetie early Wednesday morning and staying through Monday, so if people want to get together before or afterwards as well...

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 01:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also, yes, buy Scott and Maria beer. It's well deserved.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 01:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

count me in!

no longer the deli llama (m coleman), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 02:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Proposal was accepted. Will probably write the paper after I get back from giving a talk about 1980s German thrash bands in Berlin in mid-February.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 02:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm most likely coming home for this.

reconstituted pork offal slurry (get bent), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 03:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

my proposal was accepted! see y'all there!

some dude, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 04:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

i promise not to #occupy anything.

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 04:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

it always ends badly when i do...

scott seward, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 04:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

totally psyched to meet up w/y'all. also pleased & proud that my proposal was accepted. and nervous...

no longer the deli llama (m coleman), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 11:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

I am going to this I think

Sally Field hysterically shrieking "Gloria fucking SWANSON!!!" (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is registration open yet?

Sally Field hysterically shrieking "Gloria fucking SWANSON!!!" (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is going to be so much fun.

maura, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Whoa, weird, I'm going to this.

gord downer (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

I mean, "NYC is so close! Weird!"

gord downer (Ówen P.), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 15:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Planning to go even though my proposal didn't get accepted. I really, really, really wanted to present this year. Are all of you on the program?

Melle Mel and the Coconuts (thewufs), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm not this time but I always go because hey, it's fun.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I definitely wouldn't want to miss this year like I did last (my first EMP was 2010 - I actually met you at that wine and cheese thing, Ned). And it's actually close and I actually have multiple options for free accommodations this time.

Melle Mel and the Coconuts (thewufs), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Can't wait to see the program...

Melle Mel and the Coconuts (thewufs), Wednesday, 4 January 2012 22:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

Being in NYC this week for the first time has convinced me that there is no way I can miss this when it's so close. Hoping that my professors agree (assignment schedules released next week etc.)

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 5 January 2012 02:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

For the first time since I was 16, rather

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 5 January 2012 02:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

I was there last year in LA, and I will make it this year again (but perhaps alone--eek!). It really is quite fun.

cybele, Thursday, 5 January 2012 04:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

i might go to this thing

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 5 January 2012 19:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

my proposal was accepted, so anyone interested in hearing thousands of words about K-pop and Seoul should be in luck!

even more excited than usual about this year's conference - I'm probably going to stay in NYC for at least a week, and may be putting together a related event...

"Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Monday, 9 January 2012 19:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

Had a blast last year, but prob. not attending this time around, since it's my birthday weekend, and I'm planning a trip to NYC in April, anyway.

Bon Ivoj (jaymc), Monday, 9 January 2012 19:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Would love to hear a K-pop paper; if you're scheduled the same day as me (and not opposite me), will definitely drop in.

誤訳侮辱, Monday, 9 January 2012 19:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

On two panels this year. I don't know when the first one is yet, but my paper's called "From the Corner to Carnegie Hall and Beyond: The Urbanization of Miles Davis, 1972-1991." The other one is a more free-form discussion on Sunday afternoon, March 25, on the state of present-day jazz and improv in NYC, moderated by Greg Tate; in addition to me, the panel will apparently include Butch Morris and several other musicians, a prospect which has me basically soiling myself.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 19 January 2012 19:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

if i can find a very cheap/free place to stay, i think i'll go

gnome (remy bean), Thursday, 19 January 2012 20:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

wait –– i'll come to see/meet you all, not nec. to attend a lot of the conferance, which i prob. won't understand anyhow.

gnome (remy bean), Thursday, 19 January 2012 20:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

I am thinking of attending as well, I just have to find a play to stay.

Seriously, who votes for Drake? (Nicole), Thursday, 19 January 2012 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

oops I meant "place to stay" argh.

Seriously, who votes for Drake? (Nicole), Thursday, 19 January 2012 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

"play to stay" sounds like some weird sex tourism trip

Seriously, who votes for Drake? (Nicole), Thursday, 19 January 2012 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

I could see "Place To Stay" bring the name of a Drake album, for some reason. Especially in the aforementioned context.

Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Thursday, 19 January 2012 20:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

yup yup

http://www.empmuseum.org/education/index.asp?categoryID=26

scott seward, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 15:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

" Puerto Ricans, Black Men, and No Less Than One Dominican: Slammin’ the Rock with Todd Terry, Chep Nuñez , Blade Runners, and The Blue Jean Regime – An Exegesis of 1990’s Warlock Records War Party Compilation Sliced and Edited in the Style Of Omar Santana. "

This looks awesome Scott

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 15:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

it remains to be seen. er, written. i've cleared my schedule for the next month. ilx in full effect on that panel. me and lovebug starski!

scott seward, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 16:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

and rj smith and dave tompkins scheduled at the same time will take the heat off of us if we happen to be hungover...

scott seward, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 16:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

everyone in nyc who gets up late on friday should come to this. party with me and the tate-meister! hennessy!!!

6:15pm - 7:30pm

Book release gathering for the new Pop Conference anthology, Pop When the World Falls Apart: Music in the Shadow of Doubt (Duke University Press)

Featuring:

Greg Tate, "Roundtable: The Church of What’s Happening Now: Improv 2012 and the Cosmopolitan Truth"

Alexandra Vazquez, "Street Dreams: Blackness on the Move"

Tom Smucker, " When Bobby Went Bob: Darin’s Muddled Dylan Turn, The Assassination of RFK, and the Collapse of Ring A Ding Urban Masculinity. "

Karen Tongson, "“Drive and Sounds of the ‘80s Metropolis”"

Eric Lott, "Andy's Mick: Warhol Builds a Better Jagger"

J. Martin Daughtry, "Evocative Objects and Provocative Actions on the Acoustic Territory of War"

Larry Blumenfeld, ""Treme" and the Abstract Truth: Fact and Fiction in New Orleans"

Nate Chinen, "Nice Work: Jazz Agency and the New York City Cabaret Card, 1943-1967"

Diane Pecknold, ""The Spectral Cityscapes of Tween Pop""

Oliver Wang, "The The ? Remains: Toward a Culture-Emergent Hip-Hop Studies"

Carlo Rotella, "Shipping Up to Boston: A Pecking Order"

Michelle Habell-Pallán, "Violence Girl: East L.A. Rage to Hollywood Stage, A Chicana Punk Story -- a D.I.Y. "Archiverista" Conversation"

Scott Seward, " Puerto Ricans, Black Men, and No Less Than One Dominican: Slammin’ the Rock with Todd Terry, Chep Nuñez , Blade Runners, and The Blue Jean Regime – An Exegesis of 1990’s Warlock Records War Party Compilation Sliced and Edited in the Style Of Omar Santana. "

Kembrew McLeod, "Killer Apps Play the Sounds of the Cities""

Carl Wilson, " We Hate It When Our Friends Become Successful: The Death and Life of Great North American Scenius "

Eric Weisbard

scott seward, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 16:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

also, just a heads up, if anyone wants to join me, i will be staging a direct action mic check during this panel. you can bring signs and banners if you want:

>> Clubways

Venue: Room 3

Featuring:

Michaelangelo Matos, "A Trip to MARS-FM: The Story of L.A.'s Rave Radio Station, 1991-92"

Al Shipley, " Tough Breaks: The Story of Baltimore Club Music "

Benjamin Court, "Feeling the Political in "Can You Feel It?""

Joshua Clark Davis, "G.I. Rap and Euro-Dance: How African-American Soldiers and West Germans Created a Hybrid Hip Hop Culture in 1980s and 1990s Frankfurt "

scott seward, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 16:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh that looks awesome

Chaka Collar, lemme rock you (DJP), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

My head spins already...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

I may need to hire substitutes.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 16:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

EMP at its best is a process of making you realize you cannot be everywhere you want to be.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh, another big + was Scott thinking Carl's Toronto lecture was a work of fiction

mom in the woods (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Not meeting Ned

Such a pity! I was looking around for you too. Also I inadvertantly startled Daphne Carr in that I thought you were looking forward to her collaboration with Douglas Wolk and might have made her nervous! (But yes, Ms. Brooks rocks, does she not?)

Bf was really into it, was surprised at how class- and race- it was

A good focus; there have always been strong voices on these matters but I think this was easily the broadest and strongest conference yet.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Owen - I realized in retrospect from Chris' tweets that we were both at the K-pop panel and apparently also at Daphne Brook's amazing paper, but I didn't spot you! Heh.

The class and race focus of a lot of the papers was something I appreciated. Given the focus on the cityscape and urban spaces, it didn't shock me, but I would have been disappointed if it wasn't a big part of the conversation.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

that whitney thing was great. my fave thing was prob rob sheffield. he cracks me up.

this should go on the braggin' thread, but Gr#il M@rc^s sent me a rilly flattering email after this, and now i feel like i should really read one of his books. i've been meaning to! i mean i've been reading his stuff since the 70's so there is that. i'm sure some of it stuck through osmosis. just like xgau's stuff.

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

All you people havin' fun making me mad again.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Owen how did sat nite go with anony4 and j0hn?

Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Particularly glad that most of the papers on queer issues didn't ignore the class and race implications of their subjects.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

i loved how "urban" this conference was. just lots of great black/rap/dance/electronic talk and i was way into that.

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Owen how did sat nite go with anony4 and j0hn?

― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:19 PM (30 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I didn't get tickets to this but BradNelson raved about it to me, so I'm assuming it was pretty awesome.

Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh and i loved listening to alice bag talk a lot, but i could have done without beck's mom. sorry, beck's mom! okay, now i feel bad for beck's mom. its just that alice is so interesting all on her own...

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

I didn't get tickets to this but BradNelson raved about it to me, so I'm assuming it was pretty awesome.

Yeah been hearing similar. Was so hoping to catch it but tickets were long gone before I could put two and two together and go "Hey wait I'll be there at the same time..."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

i just looked to see if he was coming around here but doesn't look like he is anytime soon. he's comin' atcha, australia! i had fun at the MG show maria and i saw in northampton when we first moved around here. and was completely in awe of everyone in the crowd who knew every word to every song. there are a lot of words in those songs!

and we FINALLY got a copy of the 33&third black sabbath book. sorry, J*$n!!!! i'm a bad pal....i just never go anywhere that has them. got douglas's book too and the carl wilson one. they sold out of geeta! before i could get one.

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

A4 and j0hn was awesome! Like, actually! Not in a "It is important to be positive about a client's work" way but in a "I may cancel my shit this weekend and see it again in London" way.

mom in the woods (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 17:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

phil's miles davis thing is p cool

#yolo contendere (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 31 March 2012 18:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

phil essentially wrote the reappraisal of '90s miles davis i've always wanted to see written

he's totally right about doo-bop

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 March 2012 18:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

'80s-'90s miles davis*

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 March 2012 18:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^yeah, this is great! i've always meant to dig deeper into that stuff, only heard a handful of albums. should probably get this: http://www.amazon.com/Warner-Years-1986-Miles-Davis/dp/B005G4YE4S

tylerw, Saturday, 31 March 2012 21:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

we want miles is a killer live album. funky as hell

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Saturday, 31 March 2012 21:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://www.gpb.org/news/2012/03/31/crossover-appeal-the-pop-conference-in-new-york

mentions of various presentations including:

Jack Halberstam traced the sound of a scream through three songs performed by women with loose connections to punk, but little else in common: "The Boiler" by Rhoda Dakar & The Special A.K.A., a cover of Joy Division's "She's Lost Control" by Grace Jones and "Come Alive" by Janelle Monae. Noticing similar sounds is easily done. What made Halberstam's paper eye-opening was the idea that we can categorize songs by tracking their sounds through history just as effectively as we can using genre tags. Simple and bit magical, like opening a door into a room where things are messier than what you're used to, but somehow make a little more sense

curmudgeon, Monday, 2 April 2012 01:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm still a little too far inside comedown mode to say anything insightful about this year's conference, but it was my favourite one yet in pretty much every way. The only real disappointment was missing a few papers I really wanted to see (Daphne Brooks, Douglas Wolk) due to exhaustion. I'm grateful that people came to my panel and my party and the karaoke outing where I sang "Pussy Control" with Brad.

(also: http://critickittens.tumblr.com/post/20356066358/after-a-long-day-of-panels-at-last-months-pop)

"Gunplay" (ft. Gunplay) (Andre Gunder Frank 3000), Monday, 2 April 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

where I sang "Pussy Control" with Brad

this was the best

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 2 April 2012 17:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

i got a big laugh during my paper when talking about the Baltimore club song "Dic Control" and was later told that at least some of the laughter was due to "Pussy Control" being sung the night before

some dude, Monday, 2 April 2012 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

My biggest regret IS missing karaoke for sure. Next year.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 April 2012 18:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

is it a coincidence you said that right after some dude's 'dic control' post, or

D-40, Monday, 2 April 2012 18:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

In a word, yes. (My girlfriend and I had planned on going but we were just too wiped out from jet lag still.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 April 2012 18:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

:-D

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 April 2012 19:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

raggett control

TALiB KWELi SODMG (The Reverend), Wednesday, 4 April 2012 21:41 (1 year ago) Permalink


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