Guns n Roses: Critical Rehab

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Matos's phrase on the VMA thread -- meaning, everybody once knew that GnR sucked but now the same people (or their replacements) are busily revising the canonical estimation. It's certainly true that hardly anybody in print media mentions GnR without "acknowledging" that they were great in their day -- what's this all about? Wasn't Appetite for Destruction a mediocre Sunset Strip-metal album at best (filler/hit ratio laughably tilting toward the former term), didn't GnR Lies teach the maxim "strike while the iron is not" to a new generation, and weren't the Use Your Illusions completely forgettable? So how come the critical makeover stateside?

J0hn Darn1elle, Friday, 30 August 2002 19:31 (13 years ago) Permalink

80s retro-fascism rearing its ugly head?
Aren't the UK press just as guilty of this...? Or were they always in Axl and co.'s corner?

Personally I think GnR were shit then and they're certainly shit now. Axl's self-righteous preening and posturing never appealed to me, and I could always get my fix of rock riffs from much more palatable sources (like say, Roth-era Van Halen....)

Shaky Mo Collier, Friday, 30 August 2002 19:35 (13 years ago) Permalink

oh geeze...

chaki (chaki), Friday, 30 August 2002 19:39 (13 years ago) Permalink

Appetite for Destruction doesn't have filler. That is all.

My name is Kenny, Friday, 30 August 2002 19:39 (13 years ago) Permalink

"My Michelle" and "Mr Brownstone"...good heavens, those are dreadful songs

J0hn Darn1elle, Friday, 30 August 2002 19:41 (13 years ago) Permalink

Wasn't Appetite for Destruction a mediocre Sunset Strip-metal album at best

Err, no. I've always placed Guns 'n' Roses well above those other contemporaneous L.A. bands. They had so much going on in their sound: Van Halen/Johnny Thunders/Sex Pistols/T.S.O.L./The Damned/Aerosmith/'70s funk and disco/country-rock... and they incorporated all that REALLY well. The only thing that makes me cringe now is the lyrics, which are a little too by-the-numbers "badass" -- but the sound definitely was badass. Nothing on the radio back then sounded half as tough.

and weren't the Use Your Illusions completely forgettable?

No. UYI 1 rocks just as much as Appetite ("Perfect Crime," "Right Next Door to Hell," "Don't Damn Me," "Dead Horse"), even if it's not as consistent. There are a few duds on that album ("November Rain" isn't bad cuz it's a bad song, it's just REALLY POORLY ARRANGED), but overall I think people underrate it.

Jody Beth Rosen, Friday, 30 August 2002 20:01 (13 years ago) Permalink

Nothing on the radio back then sounded half as tough.
Aw come on, you can't seriously mean that. Slayer went multi-platinum years before the heydays of G'n'R, for starters...

Siegbran Hetteson (eofor), Friday, 30 August 2002 20:47 (13 years ago) Permalink

I remember the first GNR articles and reviews I ever read. First it was "Oh, another LA metal band," then it went to "Hey, Axl may be a great talent even if his band isn't," and then it became "What a great band!"

Christine "Green Leafy Dragon" Indigo (cindigo), Friday, 30 August 2002 20:50 (13 years ago) Permalink

i think they're underrated also, and i really liked the unsettled opened-out self-hatred: it had much more power and unease in pop metal than in most hangover sour-grapes punk, because it crackled so uneasily with the braggadocio

also i really REALLY want to fuck axl (the body not the person: i am not insane thank you)

mark s (mark s), Friday, 30 August 2002 20:56 (13 years ago) Permalink

i am scared of watching that mtv thing, tho: time has left its scar, ppl are saying

mark s (mark s), Friday, 30 August 2002 20:58 (13 years ago) Permalink

"weren't the Use Your Illusions completely forgettable?"

Yes

"Wasn't Appetite for Destruction a mediocre Sunset Strip-metal album at best (filler/hit ratio laughably tilting toward the former term)"

No. It's a big, dumb, seedy, cartoonish, sleazy, hedonistic beast of an album. Great tunes lift it to a higher plateau. Admittedly some stand out more than the others, but it's filler-free. Who could fail to be moved by "Think About You"? Who could fail to be thrilled by Mr.Brownstone? I'm not awaiting their return with great interest, but the reason for their critical rehab is contained within this record. Don't see the need for revision, myself, it's always been good

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 30 August 2002 21:01 (13 years ago) Permalink

This question was asked last year but phrased like this: "when did it become cool to like Guns n Roses?" - my answer now is the same as it was then: at the exact moment that the video for "Welcome to the Jungle" came out.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 30 August 2002 21:12 (13 years ago) Permalink

Aw come on, you can't seriously mean that. Slayer went multi-platinum years before the heydays of G'n'R, for starters...

1) Slayer was on the radio?
2) Slayer was tough?

Jody Beth Rosen, Friday, 30 August 2002 21:12 (13 years ago) Permalink

i am scared of watching that mtv thing, tho: time has left its scar, ppl are saying

I dunno though: I think context may have had something to do with Axl's appearance going over the way it seems to have done. My Weezer-fan coworker saw GnR at Summershine and though she doesn't like them said they were completely great. And I heard bootleg recordings of their New Year's shows from a year or two ago that were pretty great, even for a band I consider mainly a "this is great because these are mediocre times" band.

Which is to say: Slash's understanding of what made Johnny Thunders interesting is like Johnny Thunders minus Johnny Thunders: ditto his reading of late-seventies/early-eighties punk, ditto Axl's super-forced Manson "interest"/heroin dalliances/"controversial" lyrics.

All of which together makes for a fascinating popular figure though

J0hn Darn1elle, Friday, 30 August 2002 21:13 (13 years ago) Permalink

Appetite For Destruction was genuinely startling. Have you seen the movie The Decline and Fall of the Western Civilisation: The Metal Years? Look at the freaks called things like 'Wet Cherry' tumbling out of wet t-shirt contests at 'Gazarri's on the strip' and thank your lucky stars for the passion, firepower and idiot thrills of early-doors Guns.

The two Illusions were, of course, absolutely rubbish, but thankfully so completely and utterly bone-headedly preposterous and grandiose that history will always smile favourably on them. Twin double-albums, The Terminator, grand pianos, Bond themes, Get in the ring motherflipper: They'll always look great on paper however vile they might sound on the stereo.

G Bear, Friday, 30 August 2002 21:16 (13 years ago) Permalink

i think they're underrated also, and i really liked the unsettled opened-out self-hatred: it had much more power and unease in pop metal than in most hangover sour-grapes punk, because it crackled so uneasily with the braggadocio

What you said.

Regarding this "revisionist" thing: I didn't read a lot of rockcrit in the late '80s, aside from metal magazines, but the metal magazines (RIP, Circus) had immense respect for GNR -- much more so than for any other then-popular band (except maybe Metallica).

Jody Beth Rosen, Friday, 30 August 2002 21:17 (13 years ago) Permalink

You guys really should see "White Trash Wins Lotto", as for semi-fictional Axl lore..

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 30 August 2002 21:18 (13 years ago) Permalink

everybody once knew that GnR sucked
The two Illusions were, of course, absolutely rubbish

Now, see, I thought ILM was supposed to be against this kinda loaded-with-assumption, I-think-they-suck-therefore-they-suck-and-everybody-else-must-think-they-suck-too shit. You're getting into Amy Phillips/Pitchfork territory here. (Sorry for all the hyphens.)

Jody Beth Rosen, Friday, 30 August 2002 21:21 (13 years ago) Permalink

Jody this is off-topic but I wuz just looking at your blog and note that you're getting into my favorite band ever Lifter Puller: run don't walk to "Fiestas & Fiascos," a near-perfect album

sorry I get all evangelical abt. LP

J0hn Darn1elle, Friday, 30 August 2002 21:22 (13 years ago) Permalink

Jody this is off-topic but I wuz just looking at your blog and note that you're getting into my favorite band ever Lifter Puller

Yeah, blame Patrin for that one.

Jody Beth Rosen, Friday, 30 August 2002 21:24 (13 years ago) Permalink

Mr. Brownstone is horrendous?!?

Kris (aqueduct), Friday, 30 August 2002 21:25 (13 years ago) Permalink

"Now, see, I thought ILM was supposed to be against this kinda loaded-with-assumption, I-think-they-suck-therefore-they-suck-and-everybody-else-must-think-they-suck-too shit"

Sorry, I wasn't trying to piss anyone off/lead folk on a G'n'R suck crusade. What I think I was trying to say was that I thought the two Illusions were rubbish, but so grand in scope that they were unforgettable. (I'll drop that 'of course' bit in future)

g bear, Friday, 30 August 2002 22:02 (13 years ago) Permalink

The secret of ILM (also the secret of dating, Guns n Roses, and anything else) is knowing when to use 'of course'.

I am totally the kind of tart who thought ew, Guns n Roses, how awful when they first hit and now likes them. But then I had some kind of taste when they first hit and now I like anything. By about 1990 I thought "Sweet Child O'Mine" was brilliant and Appetite followed hotly on its heels.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 30 August 2002 22:12 (13 years ago) Permalink

i still think gareth's gnr = the smiths is utterly inspired, though i haf yet to come up with a single actual justification that travels from my head to someone else's undamaged

mark s (mark s), Friday, 30 August 2002 22:17 (13 years ago) Permalink

so in the end, even Axl's guilty of trading on the past in hopes of future sales? Maybe that's the definition of Chinese Democracy?

count me out

steve k, Friday, 30 August 2002 22:31 (13 years ago) Permalink

I always liked "paradise city" as a kid and then I learned I was not supposed to like Guns and Roses and decided modern rock scared me because it was for people who too drugs and were degenerate. By 13 or so I began to revise my opinion of modern rock, but by then alternative had come and GnR were history so I nevah paid them mind until a few years ago when I saw their videos on VH-1 and thort Wow!

But I like L.A. Guns better anyway, because they really are more of the druggie-degenerates I usta fear.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 31 August 2002 03:32 (13 years ago) Permalink

Also, GnR = Smiths becuz two days ago there were Smiths threads everywhere and now there are GnR threads everywhere.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 31 August 2002 03:35 (13 years ago) Permalink

Kempa did a GNR=The Smiths article a couple years back.

Vic Funk, Saturday, 31 August 2002 11:01 (13 years ago) Permalink

also i really REALLY want to fuck axl

Mark I really really hope you only mean Axl c. '89, because otherwise this is about as "err?" as saying you wanna fuck Liz Taylor.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 31 August 2002 13:27 (13 years ago) Permalink

oh come off it Justyn I mean who doesn't want to fuck Liz Taylor

[silence]

that's what I thought

J0hn Darn1elle, Saturday, 31 August 2002 15:58 (13 years ago) Permalink

NO ONE WHO'S HEARD GNR WOULD SAY THAT!! GET HIM!

Rahul Kamath (Rahul Kamath), Saturday, 31 August 2002 17:30 (13 years ago) Permalink

in my school all the metal-heads were always more for skid row than gnr.

keith, Saturday, 31 August 2002 17:48 (13 years ago) Permalink

That's 'cos Skid Row were a better band

J0hn Darn1elle, Saturday, 31 August 2002 18:17 (13 years ago) Permalink

Okay, now you're just talking crazy.

James Blount, Saturday, 31 August 2002 18:34 (13 years ago) Permalink

I still don't like them very much beyond the level of "adequately hard and energetic sounding", more power to you if you do. The only really special thing I see in Appetite is the sub-Lou Reed seedy-underbelly-of-the-urban-jungle lyrical themes, which only made them uniquely joyless AFAIC. As for all the claims that have been made for them on this and other threads - that they incorporated a uniquely wide range of influences, that they represented some sort of unique punk/hard rock fusion, that they were some sort of unique transition to grunge, that Slash was a great soloist, that they were the American Smiths, . . . - I just don't hear it. I don't see why they should be singled out from their (mostly equally mediocre) peers in any of these regards. Honestly I hear more punk and glam in Poison, more country in Bon Jovi, more disco in Loverboy, more experimentation in Def Leppard's Hysteria, more pathos in Cinderella, lovelier guitar melodies in the Blue Oyster Cult (whom, at least re the one album I own, I will stand by as having been a very good band but maybe that's cheating because they're from the 70s), a more obvious predecessor to grunge in Jane's Addiction . . .

sundar subramanian, Saturday, 31 August 2002 21:09 (13 years ago) Permalink

Honestly I hear more punk and glam in Poison, more country in Bon Jovi, more disco in Loverboy, more experimentation in Def Leppard's Hysteria, more pathos in Cinderella

My response was going to be something like "?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?" but I think I'll just stick with what you said: I don't hear it, but if you do, more power to you. (I guess.)

(More PUNK in POISON????)

Jody Beth Rosen, Saturday, 31 August 2002 21:29 (13 years ago) Permalink

Sundar=100% OTM

Axl's junkie-for-the-camera schtick sucks all the fun right out of the junkie-rock-star pose -- all that's less is dull romanticization of a figure that's only romantic in the hands of a really capable actor like Reed, or Thunders, or whoever else. Whereas Skid Row had all their ducks lined up. "Youth Gone Wild" sounds better now than most anything outta the GnR catalogue, and Sebastian Bach is a way funnier stage name than "Axl Rose." To say nothing of "W. Axl Rose," yeesh.

PS what does this "method not implemented" screen that comes up every so often when trying to post?

J0hn Darn1elle, Saturday, 31 August 2002 21:32 (13 years ago) Permalink

"Youth Gone Wild" sounds better now than most anything outta the GnR catalogue

"Youth Gone Wild" is OK. It's the Steve Forbert of that sorta thing. It doesn't really do much musically; it's loud but kinda flaccid.

Jody Beth Rosen, Saturday, 31 August 2002 21:42 (13 years ago) Permalink

More PUNK in POISON????

In "Talk Dirty To Me" alone, if nothing else. Unless you buy into punk being about a spirit instead of a sound or something like that. And even then, why G'n'R instead of Poison? [OT: What is this spirit that punk is always supposed to be about? Any time I hear it explained it always just sounds like basic principles of self-assertiveness that institutional authority figures prescribe to you when you're 10. Or else petty childish selfishness. Or some hybrid of the two. It's more interesting if it's a specific approach to sound.]

I don't think the Bon Jovi/country, Loverboy/disco, or Hysteria/experimentation connections really need explanation beyond a quick listen to side 2 of New Jersey, "Turn Me Loose", or "Rocket". Most of these bands weren't necessarily worth all that much (I don't intend to sit through a whole Poison album anytime soon) but neither was G'n'R AFAIC.

sundar subramanian, Sunday, 1 September 2002 01:41 (13 years ago) Permalink

In "Talk Dirty To Me" alone, if nothing else.

Welllllllllllllllllllllllllllll, it sorta sounds like it could be a Dictators song, albeit not a very good one. Most of the music historically defined as "punk" was not that sexist, though, unless we're talking about crap like Hatebreed.

Jody Beth Rosen, Sunday, 1 September 2002 02:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

completely unrelated, but I've wondered what makes these dumm misogynist hair-metal clowns more convincing lovers than their supersensitive emo counterparts.

"You know I call you, I call you on the telephone
I'm only hopin' that you're home
So I can hear you
When you say those words to me
And whisper so softly
I've gotta hear you
Cause baby we'll be..."

that's the real shit!

Aaron A., Sunday, 1 September 2002 02:12 (13 years ago) Permalink

I'll look thick for a minute. It's entirely possible that I'm not attuned enough but I just looked up the words to "Talk Dirty To Me" - What do you find sexist about it?

sundar subramanian, Sunday, 1 September 2002 02:32 (13 years ago) Permalink

Hatebreed are one of the most asexual bands I can think of, how in the world are they sexist?

Kris (aqueduct), Sunday, 1 September 2002 03:04 (13 years ago) Permalink

I'll look thick for a minute. It's entirely possible that I'm not attuned enough but I just looked up the words to "Talk Dirty To Me" - What do you find sexist about it?

"You never act the way you should" -- Bret Michaels likes his girls slutty, but he knows that it's not the way they should act.

If some guy told me I wasn't acting the way I should, I'd fucking smack him. But it's entirely possible I'm not attuned enough.

Jody Beth Rosen, Sunday, 1 September 2002 03:11 (13 years ago) Permalink

Hatebreed are one of the most asexual bands I can think of, how in the world are they sexist?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I consider fag-bashing a sexist act -- against men not acting the way they should.

Jody Beth Rosen, Sunday, 1 September 2002 03:13 (13 years ago) Permalink

Punks liked bad girls too. But then punk lyrics were impressively asexual. "I don't wanna grow up" was a brilliant song for punks to cover, but only because it wasn't written by a punk group. dig?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 1 September 2002 03:18 (13 years ago) Permalink

"you never act the way you should," as in the way your parents want you to. wink, wink.

Aaron A., Sunday, 1 September 2002 03:56 (13 years ago) Permalink

sexy/sexist vs. rocking/rockist fite!

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 1 September 2002 04:02 (13 years ago) Permalink

"you never act the way you should," as in the way your parents want you to.

Ah, but he doesn't say that!

Jody Beth Rosen, Sunday, 1 September 2002 04:07 (13 years ago) Permalink

Oh, and I just wanna stress that although I do love Guns 'n' Roses, I don't love the sexism in Axl's lyrics.

Jody Beth Rosen, Sunday, 1 September 2002 04:16 (13 years ago) Permalink

izzy still sounds p good - seems healthy no? and yeah axl sounds good with him

love 14 years

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 November 2012 21:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol speaking of muppets izzy's hat/glasses combo kinda reminds me of Zoot the sax player from Dr Teeth's Band

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 November 2012 21:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

in a good way

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 November 2012 21:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

izzy's got one of those voices where he sounded like a 50 year old at 30, so yeah good on you for sounding the same when it's age appropriate haha

The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 November 2012 22:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

izzy's still one cool motherfucker

14 years, huh. this song could actually be about the making of Chinese Democracy.

charlie h, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

we need to get word to izzy to stage a coup, oust axl and all those plastic-faced weirdos and bring back slash and duff

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

14 years, huh. this song could actually be about the making of Chinese Democracy.

― charlie h, Tuesday, November 27, 2012 12:16 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it is pretty funny: a song izzy wrote about 14 years of friendship when they were 28, and there were 14 years between GNR's last official release and Chinese Democracy. And the lyrics are pretty apt.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

we need to get word to izzy to stage a coup, oust axl and all those plastic-faced weirdos and bring back slash and duff

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, November 27, 2012 12:19 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Axl-Izzy sideproject would be the best imo

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah that's true

songwriting-wise, definitely

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

they recorded one Izzy song for CD, probably the unreleased song I most want to hear

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

really? i didn't know that

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm glad he's still on ok terms with axl - I dunno why but it gives me hope, lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

Izzy's early exit is prob why he's the only member of the classic lineup who seems to be cool w/ everyone -- he saw where things were headed and got out peacefully before it got ugly

The Doc Morbama (some dude), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 00:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

small-scale fux with (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 23 December 2012 05:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

i posted that on the "welcome to the jungle" thread a few days ago.

gimme some reggae! (get bent), Sunday, 23 December 2012 05:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh. Should be posted in every thread prolly.

small-scale fux with (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 23 December 2012 05:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

believe me, i've thought about doing that

fanute me or shoot me (some dude), Sunday, 23 December 2012 05:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

It seems not to be an april fools and actually fucking happening:

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-guns-n-roses-at-the-troubadour-tonight-20160401-story.html

Mule, Friday, 1 April 2016 23:12 (3 months ago) Permalink

I like how Axl's outfit *almost* makes it look like a tiny lingerie model is wearing a giant Axl Rose costume

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 April 2016 23:23 (3 months ago) Permalink

I don't know how Axl is going to stand it, maybe he's forgotten. The dressing room at the Troub is one of the most unpleasant places to sit for hours waiting to play and the specs of the building mean you can't just stay in your hotel/bus and come in at stage time - you can't get into the club from the front without going through the audience, and you can't get up to the dressing room from the back without crossing the stage

tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 1 April 2016 23:36 (3 months ago) Permalink

Nice Fedora. And what the fuck is that around his mid-section?

Duff looking like Robert Plant

Key tar player really needs to hide

Want to see big tubby Slash

calstars, Saturday, 2 April 2016 01:35 (3 months ago) Permalink

Oh that photo is from two years ago.

calstars, Saturday, 2 April 2016 01:37 (3 months ago) Permalink

Jesus, Οὖτις, that picture! Axl looks like the cover model from Trout Mask Replica.

hardcore dilettante, Friday, 8 April 2016 23:59 (3 months ago) Permalink

He should borrow Dave Grohl's throne.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 April 2016 00:01 (3 months ago) Permalink

I actually think "Critical Rehab" would be a great title for a G'n'R album.

hardcore dilettante, Saturday, 9 April 2016 03:21 (3 months ago) Permalink

Mickey Rourke should do something like The Wrestler except where he's Axl.

... (Eazy), Saturday, 9 April 2016 03:55 (3 months ago) Permalink

Would watch

calstars, Saturday, 9 April 2016 09:34 (3 months ago) Permalink

what are the odds that's it's a real injury? Or is this just axl being axl?

calstars, Saturday, 9 April 2016 18:18 (3 months ago) Permalink

He apparently did borrow the throne. This is some grade A comedy

calstars, Saturday, 9 April 2016 18:19 (3 months ago) Permalink

Axl looks like Mark Hamill now

Neanderthal, Saturday, 9 April 2016 18:21 (3 months ago) Permalink

One advantage of the throne is that Axl can't storm off. Those purported costume changes make me wonder, though. Last time I saw Axl's GNR, at a club, he pretty much left the stage between every song, I assumed for a hit from the O2 tank.

I wonder if playing Double Talkin' Jive is out there as Izzy bait? I know he and Axl are still on good terms, but this would feel better with him in the mix. Or basically anyone that undercuts Axl's parallel crew of session chop ringers with a good dose of sloppy personality.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 April 2016 23:10 (3 months ago) Permalink

If Izzy is on good terms with A, and assuming he gets along with Saul, maybe he is just ashamed of his own appearance?

calstars, Sunday, 10 April 2016 00:52 (3 months ago) Permalink

Compared to Axel's appearance?

dow, Sunday, 10 April 2016 01:14 (3 months ago) Permalink

Izzy played with Axl's GnR off-and-on between 2006 and whenever, but only when he felt like it. Most likely his reasons for not doing this tour are that he hates touring.

glandular lansbury (sic), Sunday, 10 April 2016 01:17 (3 months ago) Permalink

Remarkably, Izzy has released 11 solo albums, plus a live album.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 April 2016 12:54 (3 months ago) Permalink

It's fairly obvious that Izzy is a guy who does pretty much exactly what he wants, and only exactly when he wants to.

Cue thread for people who have figured out how to live.

Mule, Sunday, 10 April 2016 14:23 (3 months ago) Permalink

Healthiest-looking gnr veteran.

how's life, Sunday, 10 April 2016 14:37 (3 months ago) Permalink

Wow. Good for you, Izzy. Figured out how to live, indeed.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 April 2016 15:08 (3 months ago) Permalink

Looks like a slimmer Ronnie O'Sullivan.

nate woolls, Sunday, 10 April 2016 15:14 (3 months ago) Permalink

has he recorded anything since the juju hounds album? i love that so much

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 April 2016 15:20 (3 months ago) Permalink

lord help me but I might go to this reunion tour

Neanderthal, Sunday, 10 April 2016 15:21 (3 months ago) Permalink

xpost I wasn't kidding, he's released 11 solo albums!

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 April 2016 15:31 (3 months ago) Permalink

I'd go to a JuJu Hounds reunion.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 10 April 2016 18:59 (3 months ago) Permalink

I wish Izzy had joined the G N' R reunion - maybe then folks would finally admit the Ju Ju Hounds album is no better than any random Ron Wood solo disc.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 10 April 2016 19:25 (3 months ago) Permalink

Ju Ju Hounds album has at least two really excellent tracks and a handful of pretty good ones. If I could count on that from a Ron Wood solo disc I'd be delighted.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 11 April 2016 07:13 (3 months ago) Permalink

Izzy's 117 Degrees, which was his last album on Geffen, is even better than the JuJu Hounds record. There was a time (GN'R pun intented) you could find it for a dollar at any FYE in America.

DavidLeeRoth, Monday, 11 April 2016 11:56 (3 months ago) Permalink

Not many people bought Izzy's albums, but everyone who did formed a band that sounded a little like the Faces.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 April 2016 13:39 (3 months ago) Permalink


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