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Because, the first one (tonight) is 1976, where we get :

01/04/1976
With Abba, the Brotherhood of Man, the Beatles, Fox, John Miles, Diana Ross and Sailor. (R).

Then after that they are on Thursday night, 7:30pm, and basically are running weekly, each
episode being from (exactly) 35 years ago (near enough)..

Until BBC4 sack it.

Mark G, Friday, 1 April 2011 15:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Brilliant idea. I can relive my childhood. My earliest musical memories (from pre-school days) are stuff like Abba, The Wurzels, Showaddywaddy and Hot Chocolate.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 1 April 2011 20:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

This docu that's on now makes grim viewing.

did you notice "you spin me round" was playing in the background? (snoball), Friday, 1 April 2011 21:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

The docu made some interesting points, and for all that I'd have loved if they'd started in 1964 (or whenever), 1976 is a good year to kickoff from.

The big point made was that the charts had become a 'variety' show source, as opposed to the 'teen hit parade' of the sixties. So, loads of Mathis, Roussos, BroMan, Abba and Radio DJs having comedy send-up hits.

It'll be like this for a while, but one I do remember being somewhat of a life changing moment was when Eddie and the Hot Rods did "Get out of Denver",and I went straight out and bought the (expensive) ep the next day.

I know, thesedays peopple decry the rods as being "not as seminal as Dr Feelgood", but I saw a repeat on TOTP2 and it was as good as I remembered. So, soon come, that show which showed the juxtaposition of this band against the other acts on that night.

(also, it means that the quality of dodgy Punk TOTP compilation DVDs are going to shoot up. If they get that far, of course)

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

What tickled me most was the former TOTP producer saying that they didn't get the Pistols on for "Anarchy In The UK" (which peaked at #38) because it didn't chart high enough, very important that we always stuck by the rules etc etc... followed by an April 1976 show featuring two (useless) acts which never charted at all.

The Hot Rods did well to get a TOTP appearance for "Get Out Of Denver", as a) the Live At The Marquee EP peaked at #43 and b) it was the lead track on the B-side.

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

It was track 2 on the a-side, but yeah.

Also, the funny was having Dave Bartram saying "yeah, a TOTP appearance guaranteed you a top 10 hit" and demonstrating this with a screening of their massive top (fillinasecond) hit "Trocadero"...

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

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Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

xpost - Aaargh, so it was!

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

The big point made was that the charts had become a 'variety' show source, as opposed to the 'teen hit parade' of the sixties. So, loads of Mathis, Roussos, BroMan, Abba and Radio DJs having comedy send-up hits.

Am I misunderstanding? cos the 60s had big hits for Ken Dodd, Englebert Humperdinck, the Barron Knights etc etc

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh sure, but the theory being that those were in the minority, show-content wise.

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

oh on the show. yeah probly fair enough. chartwise it was variety a-go-go

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I don't think the point was that the charts had become (more) like a variety show, but that TOTP had.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

did you notice "you spin me round" was playing in the background? (snoball), Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

I know, what a dick. Still we had the Four Seasons doing "Silver Star" this week. Also Eric Carmen's "interview" with Noel Edmonds, where you couldn't hear a word he was saying, don't be shy Eric!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 08:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

Interviews on TOTP? that's a rarity...

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 09:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

"Inteview" not really the word.

"You wrote a song for Dana didn't you?"
"Mumble mumble mumble"
"What's the best song you've ever written?"
"Mumble mumble mumble All By Myself"
"Well all the best with the new single"
"Mumble"

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

Don't know what song he wrote for Dana

Oh and Noel was saying what a good album "Eric Carmen" was: a rare display of good taste from Edmonds there!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

Noel had to say he liked it cos he didn't want to blow a raspberry.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

My god that it horribly formed.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

*is*

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

OK so Google tells me Dana covered "Never Gonna Fall in Love Again" from the aforementioned "Eric Carmen" album

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Is Dana the one who did some religious kids programme called 'Wake Up Sunday'?

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

Sounds likely

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

10CC, "Mandy Fly Me" was on too. Fantastic!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

NEdmonds always had his love of singer-songwriters, to be fair.

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 10:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

Big fan of Harry Chapin, yer Edmonds.

mike t-diva, Friday, 8 April 2011 14:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

Balderdash certainly describes droll Noel's career.

did you notice "you spin me round" was playing in the background? (snoball), Friday, 8 April 2011 15:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

This was easily the most WTF song on this week's show:

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

I watched last night's 1976 episode, it was amazingly and compellingly bad. Lots of odd-looking folks I've never heard of awkwardly performing novelty songs, and one of Pan's People doing some remarkably gratuitous ass-shaking in the direction of the camera. I need more.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

70s was the golden age for ugly blokes, you could still end up in a band on TOTP with groupies galore. Rubettes' (sans caps) song sounded more like the Beatles than the Rutles!

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm watching this now. LOL at the male members of the Vagabonds miming the female backing vocals. Something massively depressing about second tier disco groups though, like they're trapped in time, it's as if they're composed entirely of all the bits of late 70's disco that don't influence music today.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

Shoeless and carrying a walking stick with a bicycle bell on it? Fucking hell, Harpo could teach Lady gaga a thing or two.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

Sheer Elegance one of the most misnamed bands ever judging by what they were wearing, the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer, the utter WTFness of Harpo. mandatory viewing from now on!

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm sure Punk would never of happened if Sky+ would of been available in 1976...ended up fast forwarding most of last night's show...bring back Noosha Fox...become a little obsessed with s-s-single bed...

sonnyboy, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

^^^ same goes for watching it on iPlayer. I don't know if 'compellingly bad' is the term, or just 'bad'.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer

Enjoy!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

definitely 'compellingly bad' for me. and Fox lady really reminded me of Alison Goldfrapp which is a Good Thing.

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 17:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

Noosha F missing link between Clare Grogan and Goldfrapp. Love that record.

Michael Jones, Friday, 22 April 2011 17:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

Ah, been catching up via good old iplayer on the wii.

Old enough to remember these episodes quite clearly in some cases.

Sad that they haven't gone back far enough in time to have Sparks on.

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh, last I heard, they are definitely doing this run for a year.

After that? Who knows...

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

He was long gone as commercial proposition by 1976. That song sounded like a demo, did artists have to re-record tracks? I know they had to re-record vocals, hence the ubiquity of the Ladybirds. But then other acts obviously just mimed to the record.

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

They did 'have' to.

A lot of them switched the tapes post-session, apparently.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

ooooooo-oooooooooooooh Vienna it's Slik

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

It's Midge Uuuurrrr...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

And Paul knickerless

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Jesus Christ, superstar?

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

DLT looks like Badly Drawn Boy.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

This is sooooo much better than last weeks....

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

Only one novelty act so far.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

Shit Brotherhood Of Man are still number one...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

There was just something about the delivery or the meter, made me think of the lizards. They'd've certainly improved it.

koogs, Monday, 6 July 2015 04:10 (7 months ago) Permalink

The episode with Roger Daltry was perhaps the oddest yet; painful to watch.

mahb, Monday, 6 July 2015 08:06 (7 months ago) Permalink

Yep, seems some people were looking forward to Roger's joke...

Mark G, Monday, 6 July 2015 10:27 (7 months ago) Permalink

This from the guy who sang, "I'm a Boy" :)

holger sharkey (Tom D.), Monday, 6 July 2015 11:16 (7 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

i take it that everyone was struck dumb by B A Robertson

koogs, Monday, 20 July 2015 20:29 (6 months ago) Permalink

Another footnote in the mystifyingly successful career of BA Robertson...Wasn't he given his own TV show at one point - "BA in Music"?

quixotic yet visceral (Bob Six), Monday, 20 July 2015 22:50 (6 months ago) Permalink

https://youtu.be/XDK1dMNAJno

quixotic yet visceral (Bob Six), Monday, 20 July 2015 23:10 (6 months ago) Permalink

(indeed he did - what a tosser he was)

quixotic yet visceral (Bob Six), Monday, 20 July 2015 23:14 (6 months ago) Permalink

Weirdest thing I found out about him, you know that Big Star group when they had their first album out on a small label, well guess who had their first album as the next one in the catalogue?

Mark G, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 06:23 (6 months ago) Permalink

Already noted, would quite like to hear the story behind that.

Possibly Fingers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 09:11 (6 months ago) Permalink

My favourite BA Robertson TV moment, which has weirdly stuck with me through the years, was when he was sitting on Saturday Superstore with a bucket over his head. He was a "mystery guest" and callers had to ring in and guess who the mystery guest was.

anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 09:27 (6 months ago) Permalink

and when he took the bucket off the kids were still none the wiser

Live Aid: JFC (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 09:46 (6 months ago) Permalink

Yes, pity he took the bucket off, his career was all downhill from there.

Possibly Fingers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 10:37 (6 months ago) Permalink

Was this his performance with Maggie Bell?

everything, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 18:27 (6 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

back on thursday. with mike reid presenting.

koogs, Saturday, 26 September 2015 16:34 (4 months ago) Permalink

Read. Reid is the eastender cockney comedian bloke.

Mark G, Saturday, 26 September 2015 16:41 (4 months ago) Permalink

'triffic

Fields of Fat Henry (Tom D.), Saturday, 26 September 2015 16:44 (4 months ago) Permalink

> Read.

but i did read, it was in the guardian guide. 8)

koogs, Saturday, 26 September 2015 17:03 (4 months ago) Permalink

Oh, maybe it is him then.

Mark G, Saturday, 26 September 2015 21:42 (4 months ago) Permalink

if DOCTOR WHO can do it then TOTP can too ~ bring back the LOVE!

Paul, Sunday, 27 September 2015 00:02 (4 months ago) Permalink

"Write the theme tune, sing the theme tune..."

koogs, Friday, 9 October 2015 18:32 (4 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

we are back. but it's not good.

they appear to be mixing audience noise in with the performances so it sounds kinda shitty.

darts and showaddywaddy in the same show too (last week).

and every link seems to be someone plugging something. dollar, dennis waterman, the new stevie wonder lp, totp t-shirts...

still, christmas hats...

koogs, Friday, 30 October 2015 17:48 (3 months ago) Permalink

Yeah the audience noise over the music is so irritating. Legs and Co looked like they were being filmed by a drunk at the back of the crowd. I enjoyed Adam and The Ants and Bad Manners though

tayto fan (Michael B), Friday, 30 October 2015 20:14 (3 months ago) Permalink

Yeah. Both for the second time in 2 weeks though. (Showaddywaddy too)

koogs, Friday, 30 October 2015 20:54 (3 months ago) Permalink

The links by the DJs in general on these old TOTP shows are terrible. I thought the one redeeming feature of these idiots was a certain type of cheesy professionalism, but no they all sound illiterate even when doing something as basic as introducing the next song. On the Christmas edition from ’82, Mike Read went from Nicole to Eddy Grant by saying ‘from a Eurovision winner to someone who’s never won it in his life’, eh?

Isn't Eddy in line to represent the UK next year? Not very prescient, Read!

Most posters here probably know already, but Freaky Trigger has been covering the repeats too:

1980http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/12/popular-80/?comment-page-all#1520073

1979http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/10/popular-79/?comment-page-all#1279536

1978http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/08/popular-78/?comment-page-all#1076011

1977http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/07/popular-77/?comment-page-all#942492

1976http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2008/05/popular-76/?comment-page-all#821996

(Just to be very clear, I'm joking about Eddy Grant entering Eurovision. Don't want a repeat of the Sam Smith dissing incident)

flyingtrain (sbahnhof), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 21:46 (3 months ago) Permalink

wow! Some brill writing and interesting typos too.

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 07:40 (3 months ago) Permalink

woah!

koogs, Friday, 20 November 2015 20:12 (2 months ago) Permalink

^ that in reference to UB40's Dream A Lie video. i can see what they are trying to do but 35 years after the fact it's quite o_O (that said, nice song that i don't think i've heard before)

i've said it before but stray cats, showaddywaddy and matchbox in the charts. it's like punk never happened.

and again with the chats in the links.

koogs, Friday, 20 November 2015 20:26 (2 months ago) Permalink

shame about what happened to UB40; 2 rival versions touring the world, one with Ali Campbell, one uh.. without, both hating/sueing the other

http://ub40.org/
http://ub40.global/

piscesx, Friday, 20 November 2015 20:40 (2 months ago) Permalink

Some 35th deathiversary this is turning out to be...

Bieber dominates this week’s rundown following the release of his new album Purpose, including no less than three singles in the Top 5: Sorry (1), Love Yourself (3) and What Do You Mean? (5). No other male artist has achieved this in 34 years, since John Lennon in January 1981 with Imagine (1), Happy Xmas (War Is Over) (3) and (Just Like) Starting Over (5) following his tragic death. (from Official Charts)

Pretty sure Lennon once said he was bigger than Biebus anyway, as a kind of pre-emptive measure.

Is this Tony Blackburn quote real? I know the Durrin Durrin one is, but... bloody hell.

Blackburn mightily resented being pushed into [the Radio 1 chart show] when he did it; and he was legendarily useless - "Massive leap of one place," "Sensational new sound of Durrin Durrin," "It's been a good week for John Lennon, he has three songs in the top ten" (Sunday after his shooting)

flyingtrain (sbahnhof), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 00:55 (2 months ago) Permalink

^ I'm sure it's accurate. Just amazed he didn't get more widely ridiculed for saying it

flyingtrain (sbahnhof), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 09:07 (2 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Great start this week: The Beat > The Specials > Gary Numan.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 10 December 2015 19:41 (2 months ago) Permalink

Don't watch the "Long" version, there are acts "between" those.

Mark G, Thursday, 10 December 2015 21:26 (2 months ago) Permalink

god, you weren't wrong. how do the baron knights live with what they do?

was wondering if the beat were trying to distance themselves from the two tone thing in what they were wearing (ie colours). and then wondered whether you'd call it ska or whether it was something more. i think the classic ska backbeat was in there but hidden under the guitars (teardrop vox restrung left-handed by the look)

then the specials were on in their christmas jumpers which made me wonder whether they were all in it together. (that's probably my favourite specials track and it was nice to see rico again)

does gary numan get a bulk-discount on arp's?

the chart's looking strong again.

koogs, Friday, 11 December 2015 11:05 (2 months ago) Permalink

The story I heard went along the lines of:

The guitarist's nephew found some guitars and stuff when visiting, and asked him "oh, were you in a band?" "Oh yeah, we had a bunch of hits" "Really? What were you called?" "Um, .. Hey look over there.. "

(Aparently, it took some doing after the "oh, you wouldn't like it, it's not yr thing really..")

Mark G, Friday, 11 December 2015 11:14 (2 months ago) Permalink

was wondering if the beat were trying to distance themselves from the two tone thing in what they were wearing (ie colours). and then wondered whether you'd call it ska or whether it was something more. i think the classic ska backbeat was in there but hidden under the guitars (teardrop vox restrung left-handed by the look)

There's a bit of an afrobeat vibe to that Beat song. Maybe a bit Talking Heads inspired, as well.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 11 December 2015 11:37 (2 months ago) Permalink

It was a good track, I liked it.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 11 December 2015 11:37 (2 months ago) Permalink

the beat have been, i think, a bit overlooked, possibly due to not being on two tone (apart from that one single). but the best-of has a ton of hits. i'm not familiar with the lps though.

(oh, there's a cd box set with the 3 lps and a disc of singles for £11 on amazon marketplace. that'll do nicely...)

koogs, Friday, 11 December 2015 12:09 (2 months ago) Permalink

the beat had a run of about 4 amazing singles in 1980, just about my favourite band that year. and yeah, definitely a lot of afropop going in the rhythms and andy cox's guitar playing, but the other guitar sound on 'Too Nice To Talk To' is quite post-punkish, always reminds me of siouxsie & the banshees. actually i think robert smith played a vox at that time too?

ghosted monk: new gaz in the 'combs (NickB), Friday, 11 December 2015 12:10 (2 months ago) Permalink

I have just downloaded their greatest hits.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Friday, 11 December 2015 12:42 (2 months ago) Permalink

Strung lefthanded with a really weird tuning.

Three Word Username, Friday, 11 December 2015 13:11 (2 months ago) Permalink

<3 Ranking Roger

Anyway, it's not a three, it's a yogh. (Tom D.), Friday, 11 December 2015 13:12 (2 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

1981 starts on thursday

but i think this is aposite today:

koogs, Monday, 11 January 2016 10:35 (1 month ago) Permalink

(oh, apologies for the savile at the start of that - i did add a t=26s to the url to skip his intro but i think the ilm parser borked that)

koogs, Monday, 11 January 2016 10:37 (1 month ago) Permalink

No worries, we're all grown-ups.

Mark G, Monday, 11 January 2016 10:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

but that vest... nobody should be exposed to that...

koogs, Monday, 11 January 2016 10:48 (1 month ago) Permalink

Show from '81 now. 70s rockabilly revival hanging in there with the awful Matchbox doing a version of "Over the rainbow", I think I had the 45 of that). Shakin' Stevens was popular around this time too wasn't he? Who were Sad Cafe btw? Dreadful. The Beat were great tho. Oh look Chas and Dave are on...

i;m thinking about thos Beans (Michael B), Thursday, 14 January 2016 23:55 (1 month ago) Permalink

Digging The Specials woolly jumper and tartan pants look

i;m thinking about thos Beans (Michael B), Thursday, 14 January 2016 23:58 (1 month ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

well, that was mixed.

american 50s thing in there still, disco, glam, metal. and just a tiny snippet of joe dolce...

koogs, Friday, 29 January 2016 11:29 (2 weeks ago) Permalink


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