The Rolling "Top of the Pops" BBC4 Revival thread.

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Because, the first one (tonight) is 1976, where we get :

01/04/1976
With Abba, the Brotherhood of Man, the Beatles, Fox, John Miles, Diana Ross and Sailor. (R).

Then after that they are on Thursday night, 7:30pm, and basically are running weekly, each
episode being from (exactly) 35 years ago (near enough)..

Until BBC4 sack it.

Mark G, Friday, 1 April 2011 15:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

Brilliant idea. I can relive my childhood. My earliest musical memories (from pre-school days) are stuff like Abba, The Wurzels, Showaddywaddy and Hot Chocolate.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 1 April 2011 20:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

This docu that's on now makes grim viewing.

did you notice "you spin me round" was playing in the background? (snoball), Friday, 1 April 2011 21:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

The docu made some interesting points, and for all that I'd have loved if they'd started in 1964 (or whenever), 1976 is a good year to kickoff from.

The big point made was that the charts had become a 'variety' show source, as opposed to the 'teen hit parade' of the sixties. So, loads of Mathis, Roussos, BroMan, Abba and Radio DJs having comedy send-up hits.

It'll be like this for a while, but one I do remember being somewhat of a life changing moment was when Eddie and the Hot Rods did "Get out of Denver",and I went straight out and bought the (expensive) ep the next day.

I know, thesedays peopple decry the rods as being "not as seminal as Dr Feelgood", but I saw a repeat on TOTP2 and it was as good as I remembered. So, soon come, that show which showed the juxtaposition of this band against the other acts on that night.

(also, it means that the quality of dodgy Punk TOTP compilation DVDs are going to shoot up. If they get that far, of course)

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

What tickled me most was the former TOTP producer saying that they didn't get the Pistols on for "Anarchy In The UK" (which peaked at #38) because it didn't chart high enough, very important that we always stuck by the rules etc etc... followed by an April 1976 show featuring two (useless) acts which never charted at all.

The Hot Rods did well to get a TOTP appearance for "Get Out Of Denver", as a) the Live At The Marquee EP peaked at #43 and b) it was the lead track on the B-side.

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 April 2011 09:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

It was track 2 on the a-side, but yeah.

Also, the funny was having Dave Bartram saying "yeah, a TOTP appearance guaranteed you a top 10 hit" and demonstrating this with a screening of their massive top (fillinasecond) hit "Trocadero"...

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

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Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

xpost - Aaargh, so it was!

mike t-diva, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

The big point made was that the charts had become a 'variety' show source, as opposed to the 'teen hit parade' of the sixties. So, loads of Mathis, Roussos, BroMan, Abba and Radio DJs having comedy send-up hits.

Am I misunderstanding? cos the 60s had big hits for Ken Dodd, Englebert Humperdinck, the Barron Knights etc etc

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh sure, but the theory being that those were in the minority, show-content wise.

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh on the show. yeah probly fair enough. chartwise it was variety a-go-go

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I don't think the point was that the charts had become (more) like a variety show, but that TOTP had.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

did you notice "you spin me round" was playing in the background? (snoball), Thursday, 7 April 2011 18:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

I know, what a dick. Still we had the Four Seasons doing "Silver Star" this week. Also Eric Carmen's "interview" with Noel Edmonds, where you couldn't hear a word he was saying, don't be shy Eric!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 08:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

Interviews on TOTP? that's a rarity...

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 09:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Inteview" not really the word.

"You wrote a song for Dana didn't you?"
"Mumble mumble mumble"
"What's the best song you've ever written?"
"Mumble mumble mumble All By Myself"
"Well all the best with the new single"
"Mumble"

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

Don't know what song he wrote for Dana

Oh and Noel was saying what a good album "Eric Carmen" was: a rare display of good taste from Edmonds there!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

Noel had to say he liked it cos he didn't want to blow a raspberry.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

My god that it horribly formed.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

*is*

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

OK so Google tells me Dana covered "Never Gonna Fall in Love Again" from the aforementioned "Eric Carmen" album

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Is Dana the one who did some religious kids programme called 'Wake Up Sunday'?

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sounds likely

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

10CC, "Mandy Fly Me" was on too. Fantastic!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

NEdmonds always had his love of singer-songwriters, to be fair.

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 10:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Big fan of Harry Chapin, yer Edmonds.

mike t-diva, Friday, 8 April 2011 14:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

Balderdash certainly describes droll Noel's career.

did you notice "you spin me round" was playing in the background? (snoball), Friday, 8 April 2011 15:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

This was easily the most WTF song on this week's show:

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

I watched last night's 1976 episode, it was amazingly and compellingly bad. Lots of odd-looking folks I've never heard of awkwardly performing novelty songs, and one of Pan's People doing some remarkably gratuitous ass-shaking in the direction of the camera. I need more.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

70s was the golden age for ugly blokes, you could still end up in a band on TOTP with groupies galore. Rubettes' (sans caps) song sounded more like the Beatles than the Rutles!

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm watching this now. LOL at the male members of the Vagabonds miming the female backing vocals. Something massively depressing about second tier disco groups though, like they're trapped in time, it's as if they're composed entirely of all the bits of late 70's disco that don't influence music today.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

Shoeless and carrying a walking stick with a bicycle bell on it? Fucking hell, Harpo could teach Lady gaga a thing or two.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sheer Elegance one of the most misnamed bands ever judging by what they were wearing, the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer, the utter WTFness of Harpo. mandatory viewing from now on!

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm sure Punk would never of happened if Sky+ would of been available in 1976...ended up fast forwarding most of last night's show...bring back Noosha Fox...become a little obsessed with s-s-single bed...

sonnyboy, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^^ same goes for watching it on iPlayer. I don't know if 'compellingly bad' is the term, or just 'bad'.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer

Enjoy!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

definitely 'compellingly bad' for me. and Fox lady really reminded me of Alison Goldfrapp which is a Good Thing.

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 17:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

Noosha F missing link between Clare Grogan and Goldfrapp. Love that record.

Michael Jones, Friday, 22 April 2011 17:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ah, been catching up via good old iplayer on the wii.

Old enough to remember these episodes quite clearly in some cases.

Sad that they haven't gone back far enough in time to have Sparks on.

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh, last I heard, they are definitely doing this run for a year.

After that? Who knows...

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

He was long gone as commercial proposition by 1976. That song sounded like a demo, did artists have to re-record tracks? I know they had to re-record vocals, hence the ubiquity of the Ladybirds. But then other acts obviously just mimed to the record.

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

They did 'have' to.

A lot of them switched the tapes post-session, apparently.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

ooooooo-oooooooooooooh Vienna it's Slik

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's Midge Uuuurrrr...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

And Paul knickerless

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Jesus Christ, superstar?

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

DLT looks like Badly Drawn Boy.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is sooooo much better than last weeks....

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Only one novelty act so far.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

Shit Brotherhood Of Man are still number one...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

(he'd done some of the earlier shows but there was a hiatus...)

koogs, Friday, 23 August 2013 21:08 (8 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

1977: The Year Doo-Wop Broke.

koogs, Saturday, 28 September 2013 10:20 (6 months ago) Permalink

(wait, it's 1978. still, with all the showaddywaddy, darts and grease stuff in the charts... 4 things in top 10 from grease.)

koogs, Saturday, 28 September 2013 10:22 (6 months ago) Permalink

There've been a lot of godawful piano ballads recently. Just listen to this monstrosity.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 28 September 2013 15:19 (6 months ago) Permalink

er, convicted sex offender Jonathan King?

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Thursday, 3 October 2013 18:38 (6 months ago) Permalink

yeah, that's an odd decision given that they aren't showing some episodes because two different presenters are currently unpeople.

still, it's like they have discovered punk / new wave this week. (i may've spoken too soon, am watching about 20 minutes behind real time). odd given that blackburn's shows are usually disco-heavy.

koogs, Thursday, 3 October 2013 19:00 (6 months ago) Permalink

so is this Aug 31 or Oct 26?

August 31, 1978 - Tony Blackburn
September 7, 1978 - Peter Powell
September 14, 1978 - Jimmy Saville
September 21, 1978 - Paul Burnett
September 28, 1978 - Dave Lee Travis
October 5, 1978 - David Jensen
October 12, 1978 - Jimmy Saville
October 19, 1978 - Peter Powell
October 26, 1978 - Tony Blackburn

actually given that the last four have been Powell, Burnett, Jensen, Powell it must be Oct 26.

koogs, Thursday, 3 October 2013 19:05 (6 months ago) Permalink

is it still 1978? these years must have been interminable to actually live through.

piscesx, Thursday, 3 October 2013 19:06 (6 months ago) Permalink

yeah, they are trying, i thought, to stay exactly 35 years ahead. which is my i'm surprised that we are 3 weeks ahead.

koogs, Thursday, 3 October 2013 19:20 (6 months ago) Permalink

actually i'm being a bit harsh this week's has almost all of Public Image, after the Number 1 over the end credits!

piscesx, Thursday, 3 October 2013 19:25 (6 months ago) Permalink

(that was last week's. this week they were on (video) as part of the main show)

koogs, Thursday, 3 October 2013 19:29 (6 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

was that a different vocal on Germfree Adolescent? could swear her voice cracks more on the version i know.

otherwise, that was dire. Dandy, Patrick Juvet, ONJ, Rats, Darts, Cars, Xray Spex, JT&ONJ, Jacksons over end credits

koogs, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:42 (6 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, they would sometimes have the original backing track and a 'live' vocal.

Mark G, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:22 (6 months ago) Permalink

Polystyrene was asked by the TOTP producer to change "Listerine" to "glycerine" and "SR" to "XR" to avoid what-we-now-call product placement.

harveyw, Friday, 18 October 2013 16:09 (6 months ago) Permalink

could've sworn it was SR last night. will give it another listen.

and just listening to the John Peel Session version (on Let's Submerge) and that *is* XR and Glycerine. (and breaking voice, although not as much as the lp version)

koogs, Friday, 18 October 2013 17:42 (6 months ago) Permalink

no, you're right (1:22 and others)

koogs, Friday, 18 October 2013 17:45 (6 months ago) Permalink

star ship trooper really is a thing.

koogs, Thursday, 31 October 2013 22:03 (5 months ago) Permalink

i'm not sure i have the words to describe it.

koogs, Thursday, 31 October 2013 22:04 (5 months ago) Permalink

The song itself isn't too bad, but the visual presentation tips it over into Woolworths naff-ness.

not a lunch that is hot (snoball), Thursday, 31 October 2013 22:12 (5 months ago) Permalink

Back on tonight, 30th Nov 2013.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Thursday, 14 November 2013 19:25 (5 months ago) Permalink

^^^ uh, I meant 30th Nov 1978

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Thursday, 21 November 2013 19:28 (5 months ago) Permalink

did peter powell turn into tony blackburn?

koogs, Thursday, 21 November 2013 19:56 (5 months ago) Permalink

no, was TB all the way through. could've sworn the first link was PP.

meh. it's beginning to sound a lot like christmas.

koogs, Thursday, 21 November 2013 20:13 (5 months ago) Permalink

I'd forgotten that Hot Chocolate's song was a Christmas (of sorts) tune - kind of fits now though. Apart from them and the Buzzcocks, really a sort of blah week. IIRC not much happens now until early 1979 and the proper New Wave stuff kicks in. OTOH Boney M in a class of their own, even if the bloke looked like some manic ski instructor. Possibly my first memory of the actual physical production side of music was hearing 'Mary's Boy Child' being played off my father's Akai reel-to-reel tape machine and watching the tape spools rotating in almost a trance state, about five minutes after he'd recorded the track of the radio. I think it was then that a small light bulb went on above four and a half year old me's head that there was a technological element to music and the dim beginnings of the idea that it would be exciting to work in that area.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Thursday, 21 November 2013 20:35 (5 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

OK it's not on BBC4, but this TOTP2 Christmas show is the usual grab bag of the usual suspects (Wizzard, etc.), plus Emilie Sande why because she had a bit of tinsel around her neck and The Teardrop Explodes why because there's a Christmas Tree on stage. Also featuring Mark Radcliffe's oh-so-funny-it-hurts pomo hipster snarktastic between song commentary.

that's you, that is (snoball), Sunday, 22 December 2013 19:50 (4 months ago) Permalink

Mark Radcliffe's oh-so-funny-it-hurts pomo hipster snarktastic between song commentary

Still better than Steve Wright

emo cat named (soref), Sunday, 22 December 2013 19:52 (4 months ago) Permalink

oof...

Anyway, Barron Knights - possibly their only decent song is the one about Rubik's Cube, but I haven't heard that one in so long that possibly my memory is playing tricks on me and that one stinks as well.

that's you, that is (snoball), Sunday, 22 December 2013 19:53 (4 months ago) Permalink

Robbie Williams, fuck off. I know he's been made-up to look older in this video, but I can't believe that he's only a couple of months older than me.

that's you, that is (snoball), Sunday, 22 December 2013 19:59 (4 months ago) Permalink

A fun game for all the family: try and figure out whether it's Bowie or Crosby who wants to be there the least.

that's you, that is (snoball), Sunday, 22 December 2013 20:16 (4 months ago) Permalink

Crosby was out of it according to DB

"I was wondering if he was still alive. He was just… not there. He was not there at all. He had the words in front of him. (Deep Bing voice) “Hi, Dave, nice to see you here…” And he looked like a little old orange sitting on a stool. “Cos he’d been made up very heavily and his skin was a bit pitted, and there was just nobody home at all, you know? It was the most bizarre experience. I didn’t know anything about him. I just knew my mother liked him. Maybe I would have known (sings) “When the mooon,,,” No… (hums) “Dadada, dadada, someone waits for me…” That’s about the only song of his I would have actually known."

http://exploringdavidbowie.com/2013/02/05/david-bowie-the-interview-hours/

piscesx, Sunday, 22 December 2013 20:43 (4 months ago) Permalink

As a fitting tribute to Mud, that polystyrene 'snow' is still polluting the oceans to this day.

that's you, that is (snoball), Sunday, 22 December 2013 20:44 (4 months ago) Permalink

interesting tidbits about the upcoming Top Of The Pops BBC4 repeats from TV Cream:

Friday 3rd January 2014 BBC4:

21.00 Top of the Pops - The Story of 1979
Hooray! The repeat run continues into a fourth fantastic year, and we were unconvinced it would even last four months. It's remarkable it still is given how toxic the brand is now, but we're very very pleased, especially because it means we enter a fabulous year for music, with new wave becoming the mainstream and classic Look-In pop from the likes of Buggles, M and Squeeze dominating proceedings. Here's the now traditional curtain raiser of clips and not very interesting comments.

22.00 Top of the Pops - Big Hits 1979
And then as usual we've got the compilation of some of the stuff we'll see over the next twelve months, as well as some stuff we'll only get here. For what it's worth, if things stay as they are we lose eight Saviles, ten Travises and a strike, but that still means there's plenty to go at, so well done to BBC4 yet again.

piscesx, Sunday, 22 December 2013 20:46 (4 months ago) Permalink

Noel brings the dad joeks.

that's you, that is (snoball), Tuesday, 24 December 2013 21:25 (3 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Brotherhood of Man's last TOTP appearance?

time is a train that make the future flag post (snoball), Thursday, 9 January 2014 19:55 (3 months ago) Permalink

Hopefully...looks like they got a group discount for perms at the hairdressers...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Thursday, 9 January 2014 19:58 (3 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

hint: the later showing of this is 10 minutes longer.

olympic runners. a mixed-race, sports-themed disco band. odd.

car67 (from last week) i remember despite having not heard it in the intervening years. i also remember some pastiche done by DLT in the same vein as his Convoy record. but i guess we will be spared that.

koogs, Friday, 24 January 2014 07:31 (2 months ago) Permalink

When are they getting to the 80s?

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 24 January 2014 13:43 (2 months ago) Permalink

they are 35 years behind, and staying there. so 2015.

koogs, Friday, 24 January 2014 13:51 (2 months ago) Permalink

I was about to say 'well it's not as far as 2015, it's only next year', but then I realised that 2015 is next year ;_;

time is a train that make the future flag post (snoball), Friday, 24 January 2014 17:52 (2 months ago) Permalink

i think oliver's army is the first thing i've heard on totp that i bought at the time.

koogs, Thursday, 6 February 2014 20:05 (2 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

and lene lovitch is the second

koogs, Thursday, 20 February 2014 22:45 (2 months ago) Permalink

sex pistols vs legs and co

koogs, Thursday, 6 March 2014 20:40 (1 month ago) Permalink

More like Sex Pistols vs Eddie Cochran (Pistols losing btw)

an office job is as secure as a Weetabix padlock (snoball), Thursday, 6 March 2014 21:24 (1 month ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

The 80s arrive early with M.

an office job is as secure as a Weetabix padlock (snoball), Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:33 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

(slightly) longer version on later...

lot of good things on this. that israeli BoM thing in the middle, not so much.

had forgotten that Members song. cod reggae in places, but prescient. also, i think every band member was dressed like he was in a different kind of band...

koogs, Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:25 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

The 12" version with a dub section is good! (I.e. Not embarrassing)

Mark G, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:05 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Bonus track on midnight showing was gen x - valley of the dolls. And chic. Also a much bigger chunk of staircase mystery over the lights at the end.

koogs, Saturday, 5 April 2014 08:19 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I think this one is a keeper!

Mark G, Saturday, 5 April 2014 15:24 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

had forgotten that Members song. cod reggae in places, but prescient. also

Cod reggae all the way through (and not very good cod reggae either), what a weird subject to write a song about

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Sunday, 6 April 2014 12:11 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I got the feeling they were trying to be 10cc crossed with some Boomtown Rats political content.

an office job is as secure as a Weetabix padlock (snoball), Sunday, 6 April 2014 13:00 (2 weeks ago) Permalink


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