A thread for all the spaced out new-agey music that seems to be coming out. Maxxi & Zeus, the latest Hatchback, Dylan Ettinger, Sun Araw. I'd add synth stuff like Steve Moore, OPN, Expo 70 at its most cosmic.
Here is where we hail the Kosmische.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Saturday, 26 March 2011 11:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
Didn't we already had like three threads for this thing?
― Moka, Saturday, 26 March 2011 12:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
Never enough threads for mellow spaced out sounds, IMO. Thanks for tuning in, you're listening to Echoes.
― Threadkiller General (Viceroy), Saturday, 26 March 2011 13:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
great new hypnagoogly pop!
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 March 2011 14:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
great new witchbeach remix!
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 March 2011 14:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
think these guys are touring with, um, emeralds or something. check it out!
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 March 2011 14:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
― nope (absolutely clean glasses), Saturday, 26 March 2011 14:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
From one of my favourite albums so far this year:
― Carthusian Product (seandalai), Saturday, 26 March 2011 14:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
High Wolf
Expo 70
Eden Express (Kip from Cloudland Canyon)
― van smack, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
no Beach Wolf yet? there really should be.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'd bet there is a Beach Wolf somewhere
― van smack, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
And probably a Wolf Beach too
And a witch house B34C|-| \/\/0|_F
― van smack, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:40 (2 years ago) Permalink
Beach Wolf
― van smack, Saturday, 26 March 2011 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
Don't know if it counts, but I'm really digging the reissue of Synthesist by Harald Grosskopf http://open.spotify.com/album/3y5s4SQ3B9V14ns5WU3mLe
also enjoying Fabric - A Sort of Radiance http://open.spotify.com/album/1lwDnh8mybpPa8j3lbC2LK which sounds like some lost Tangerine Dream album.
― Cluster the boots (Billy Dods), Saturday, 26 March 2011 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
Anyone heard the new Hatchback? Spotify link
― Neil S, Monday, 28 March 2011 18:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
Alpha Beta Gamma by Brain Machine is doing it for me this week, Hatchback album is slight but much better after a few listens.
AlphaBetaGamma
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Monday, 28 March 2011 20:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
Did they do anything special on that reissue of ""Where There's A Whip There's A Way.""? That was one of my fave study albums.
― Publicidad de Sexo (Abbbottt), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 04:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
haha oops forgot to copy the word "Synthesist" before pasting – now you guys know the only reason I ever type anything correctly at all. I meant the Grosskopf album.
ahhh super psyched for "this" to be the "new" "balearic"
― max, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 04:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
my dream is that someone makes a comp of nu-balearic/nu-new age covering the songs on the original pure moods in order
― max, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 04:59 (2 years ago) Permalink
some of the stuff in this thread could probably still be called "balearic"? i am having trouble drawing a line between the two styles, except in a "i know it when i see it" sense. the hatchback mix on 20jfg is SUPER "new age" and not very "balearic" at all.
― max, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 05:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
http://www.20jazzfunkgreats.co.uk/wordpress/2011/03/20jfg-podcast-hatchback/
― max, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 05:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
surely chris willits belongs here
― akm, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 05:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
ya i mean actual new age and 80s-style minimalism are definitely part of the balearic spectrum, maybe not the synthier horror stdk-type stuff tho? and esp not chris willits or jesu or whoever, which seems to me to have more to do w/'dark' ambient or shoegaze or even like post dooooom
i say this in like every thread but if you haven't listened to those padilla and phil mison mixtapes on test pressing you haven't lived
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 07:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
really liking this new hatchback too, esp touches like the slo-mo ambient sax in "orinoco waltz". i will listen to this way more than the last album for sure
also feeling the mix, esp amor real – global communication vs. jon anderson. and i think i need more jd emmanuel in my life
they were mentioned in the op but i haven't heard any talk of maxxi & zeus yet
i feel like that track goes balearic the second you hear dennis hopper
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 17:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
yes that is my jaaaam
― max, Tuesday, 29 March 2011 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
That was the track that gave birth to this thread.
The Struggle tops it though, just.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
the struggle is also p great, hard for me to choose a favorite. both sides of both releases have been spectacular imo
other things i think could go in this thread:
cfcf - b aldrianarpmost if not all of "the laziest river"stellar om sourcealso this:
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 03:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
wow that first Maxxi & Zeus track is great
― van smack, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 03:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
i kinda have a hard teasing out the 'knew-age' angle on this, like what sounds & structures make something pure moodz rather than chillwave or cosmic or w/e but:
jeffrey rodens seeds of happiness on new albion is p fantastic just small mellow movements the new forma 230 record on specturm spools has a cosmic synth mindfulness maybe the parasails tape?
anyway i love so much of this stuff or at least stuff that touches on this stuff
― spectrum dudes (Lamp), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
― ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
― ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
WHITE RAINBOW + STAGHARESHHOOOPEEY SHOOP MEGA TUFF HOUSE REMIX
^ this is great btw
― ka£ka (NickB), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
there is a real band called beach wolf?
― Dominique, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
theres a band called neon beach wolf, apparently
― spectrum dudes (Lamp), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
The guitarist in that band is also in Blackk Cystal Girls
― jaxon, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
a few tracks on the last blues control album could probably be included here
kinda have a hard teasing out the 'knew-age' angle on this, like what sounds & structures make something pure moodz rather than chillwave or cosmic or w/e
i guess it's kinda like max was saying, you know it when you hear it? nu-age seems to be crisper, could be aiming for analog or early digital/fairlight, but it would not slather layers of tape distortion on itself like you tend to find in more ambient chillwave stuff. i think there's less difference btwn cosmic and nu-age, but i don't think nu-age really includes foregrounded carpenter-style synth lines while cosmic prob would. cosmic is (like balearic) also less of a genre and more of a descriptor, so spacey new age or minimalist stuff could be cosmic (like steve roach or tomita) but at the same time a dance/boogie track or even some prog can also be cosmic imo. idk i'm obviously no expert but i think it's fun to parse through this stuff
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
Was trying to do this myself.
nu-wave I think is really beatless and would never be aimed at a dancefloor, whilst most balearic stuff has its roots in an Ibizan dancefloor.
great essay on Cosmic as a state of mind as it relates to music here
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:17 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah i think of the knew age stuff as having 'cleaner' synth sounds & tones than chillwave & also less concerned with time & place - its less structured more considered abt ~states of consciousness~ & even more ambient than cosmic, i guess
― spectrum dudes (Lamp), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
it's blurring the line between cosmic (in a schultze, tangerine dream sense) and new age for sure. People used to kind of make a big deal about the distinction, right? These new acts seems like it's nbd
― blank, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
whilst most balearic stuff has its roots in an Ibizan dancefloor
not sure that the 'dancefloor' part is nec true, i think the whole style developed because the djs would play for ppl from sunset to sunrise with a whole lot of warming up and coming down in settings like the beach and cafes and stuff. and a lot of this was straight-up new age/windham hill type music
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 17:58 (2 years ago) Permalink
which is why hathcback says he isn't balearic anymore but is actually more balearic than ever ha
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
this is an unhelpful distinction but im pretty sure a big part of this is that balearic is "hip" and new age is not
― max, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:38 (2 years ago) Permalink
not hip?
― Lamp, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
tbh its hard to tell these days ys.jpg
― max, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
iasos is still around and lives in marin i guess. i think he does more video-art type stuff nowadays, but he still produces crazy stuff like this
a friend of mine booked him to play in sf but ended up backing out when he claimed it'd take 2 days of prep to properly set up the show
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
― You're Twistin' My Melody Man! (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
idk i think new age is pretty 'hip'
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
where do you think all those triangles came from
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 18:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
^ i know, i can't imagine any circumstances where the finished product of that collaboration will not appeal to me
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 21:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
more on that Blues Control/ Laraaji collab here, as part of my story on "The New Age of New Age":
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/music/la-ca-new-age-20110703,0,2953740.story
― beta blog, Monday, 4 July 2011 14:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
new frkways thing w/ david borden, oneohtrix, james ferraro and some other dudes is for this thread
http://soundcloud.com/igetrvng/frkwys07-people-of-the-wind-pt-2
― corpse pose (missingNO), Monday, 4 July 2011 14:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
I saw that latimes article, saw it, liked it and spread the love.
I got a heads-up from the rvng guy that there was something cool coming out, good to see in the article what it was.
If its half as good as the Arp / Anthony Moore 12", it'll be some special tones.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Monday, 4 July 2011 21:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
wow
just... wow. so beautiful
― missingNO, Thursday, 4 August 2011 12:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
woo. just... woo
Only problem I have with that is that it's 10 minutes too short
― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 4 August 2011 14:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
the Ken Seeno tape on NNA has this beach/synth vibe going and kinda fits in with the thread's theme
yeah i listened to this (invisible surfer on an invisible wave) on my walk to work today & it was really fantastic late summer dream music
has anyone heard much of the other stuff on nna tapes? i have the split btw opn & caboladies (which also probably fits w/in the scope of this thread) but am interested in anything else good of theirs
― I AM JOHN MAUS (Lamp), Thursday, 4 August 2011 14:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
I dug the harmonizer tape. duo with greg davis and the guy that runs nna, I think. nice to have some percussion on this stuff once in a while.
scroll down this page on keith fullerton whitman's store for a clip:
http://www.mimaroglumusicsales.com/labels/nna+tapes.html
― (⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Thursday, 4 August 2011 16:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
not sure where else to post this but i recently saw 'drive', and if i had known that angelo badalamenti was in charge of the music i probably would have seen it earlier. there are 4-5 nu-italo tracks on the soundtrack but the original score by cliff martinez seems like it might be of serious interest to people itt
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Friday, 7 October 2011 17:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
this one gives a fuller picture of the general interplay of the soundtrack- ambient badalamenti vibes becoming subsumed by more aggressive john carpenter moves, and then vice versa. good shit
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Friday, 7 October 2011 18:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
how was the rest of the movie?
― ⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 7 October 2011 18:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
o yeah, loved the music in Drive(didn't like the movie though)
― mizzell, Friday, 7 October 2011 18:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
yea the movie both sounded and *looked* amazing - this has something to do with carey mulligan and christina hendricks but there are also tons of sexy night driving shots in la (albeit with ryan gosling in silly jackets and driving gloves). the movie overall was less amazing, tho i am def willing to give it another chance b/c the general atmosphere is pretty rad
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Friday, 7 October 2011 19:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
bad movies with cool ~atmosphere~ are my favorite!
― ⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 7 October 2011 20:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
^^ totally <3
― Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 7 October 2011 20:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
new Tycho rules:
― ⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 18 November 2011 23:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Not sure if this fits the theme, but since there's some Woo-related activity on here, I've been listening to this a lot lately. Really lovely, floaty squelch that kind of reminds me of 'Sombre Reptiles' and stuff like Interior, tho can also detect obv. influence of Durutti Column/PCO. Apparently it's a cover, as Edwards and Rodgers are credited, but I'm not hearing it.
― garish handling (Muscae Volitante), Saturday, 19 November 2011 02:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
Upside Down? Edwards & Rogers credited?
C'est Chic!
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Tycho did a great interview with Hatchback, that I think is upthread.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Saturday, 19 November 2011 19:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
The first solo disc from Jonas Munk (aka Manual) ditches his earlier shoegazer personae for some progressive electronic / kosmische bliss. Really feeling this track, in particular:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbd79t6OUk
― doug watson, Friday, 1 June 2012 22:25 (11 months ago) Permalink
Try this again:
― doug watson, Friday, 1 June 2012 22:34 (11 months ago) Permalink
― van smack, Saturday, 2 June 2012 00:33 (11 months ago) Permalink
Nice! I wasn't aware that Grosskopf did a solo follow-up to Synthesist.
― doug watson, Saturday, 2 June 2012 22:46 (11 months ago) Permalink
i like that jonas munk but it's kinda... frenetic? not exactly balearic knew-age but totally kosmische
that grosskopf track is also good, but not the most relaxing thing in the world. definitely succeeds at pop-minimalist repetitive 80s piano corniness, would have been the best track on 'far side virtual' (tho i love that record for different reasons)
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Sunday, 3 June 2012 08:39 (11 months ago) Permalink
maybe i just suffer from an 'i want more things that sound like zeus and apollo" syndrome
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Sunday, 3 June 2012 08:40 (11 months ago) Permalink
also - a friend got me an interior 12" for my birthday this year and this is how i know this person 'gets' me
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Sunday, 3 June 2012 09:04 (11 months ago) Permalink
The 'I want more things that sound like Zeus & Apollo' syndrome can only be allieviated by occasional Hatchback online mixes and sometimes Tycho. Very little comes close, sadly.
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Sunday, 3 June 2012 10:44 (11 months ago) Permalink
xxxpost Ya, the rest of the Munk disc is much more chilled. I'm just stuck on that track.
What about the early 80s releases on Innovative Communication? Listening to Double Fantasy's Universal Avenue, I'm thinking that this could work.
― doug watson, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 15:36 (11 months ago) Permalink
^^^this kind of reminds me of 69 'desire', wonder if c2 had heard it?
― second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 16:00 (11 months ago) Permalink
Ha, I'd say C2 heard it before dropping this one:
― doug watson, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:20 (11 months ago) Permalink
doubtful i think
― the late great, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:37 (11 months ago) Permalink
did the electrifying mojo ever drop double fantasy anyone?
― second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 17:58 (11 months ago) Permalink
i doubt it, that is some obscure shit unless you're into new age
― the late great, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:35 (11 months ago) Permalink
i imagine craig might have heard steve roach though and there are some similarities
maybe not, heartbreaker really puts me in mind of desire tho, and i don't think it's just the pitch bending strings either. regardless it's brilliant.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:56 (11 months ago) Permalink
It's quite possible that Craig was aware of the releases on Klaus Schulze's imprint. I didn't mean to imply plagiarism above but clearly there are some shared influences.
― doug watson, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 19:07 (11 months ago) Permalink
"heartbreaker" is a total balearic classic, i would not be surprised if carl craig was aware of that record's existence
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 00:35 (11 months ago) Permalink
Hello guys,
I really like this thread and this is the only reason that I signed up to this site, to participate in this conversation, that has begun over a year ago and it still goes on!
One of my favorite music styles is this eclectic blend of ambient, balearic, psychedelic sounds. I read all the posts and I'm glad that other people share my passion. But, in this discussion, many and different kinds and periods of music come together without... dividing lines. I mean that I can't compare the great and original kraut-cosmic scene of early 70s and artists like Klaus Schulze, Ashra Tempel ect. with the "synthesizer" era of new age music that followed. I think that the first krautrock era was the most creative and all the developments and revivals have their roots in this period... of course I'm interest in almost all of them! Also I don't think that the most eclectic and balearic DJ in Ibiza of the 90s would ever play an experimental music piece that lasts over 20 minutes! And keep in mind that I love this old mixes by Jose Padilla and Phil Mison in Cafe Del Mar. So, I believe that only contemporary artists -Washed Out is a great example- combine these sometimes diverse music ifluences.
Lastly, I have to suggest an album: Desire Lines by Meanderthals. A great album of imrpovisational, psychedelic, cosmic music served in a nu-balearic style!
― nicus.pacus, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 10:55 (11 months ago) Permalink
Desire Lines is definitely a good one
― dmr, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:14 (11 months ago) Permalink
not particulary new age, but def great.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:15 (11 months ago) Permalink
also welcome to ilx nicus, be sure to check out these other threads if you haven't alreadyThe balearic beardo beach hippie album canonThe balearic beardo beach hippie album canon
― mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:27 (11 months ago) Permalink
this is a thread for the BALEARIC REVIVAL
― mizzell, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 17:28 (11 months ago) Permalink
Thank you for the propositions! I saw the other, "more balearic" threads and they are very interesting... but they also are very very long. I mean that these threads have begun 4 years ago, so information is too much! But I will check them.
I know that Desire Lines is not a new age album, but it has some influences from ambient music and mainly has a great ambient feeling, I mean a deep sentimental feeling of harmony....
Now about new age, I was interested when someone mentioned Klaus Schulze's old record company, Innovative Communication. These days I'm digging the music that came from Innovative Communication: Universal Av. by Double Fantasy is great and you should also check Dancing Fantasy's first album. I think that these artists set up the foundations for chill out music. In general, I believe that chill out has its roots to the success of new age music in the mid 80s. Take for example the first Cafe Del Mar cassette compilation that was made by Jose Padilla around 1991 and is full of new age music! Here is a link to this material:
http://dalstonoxfamshop.blogspot.gr/2011/02/cafe-del-mar-tape-no-1.html
― nicus.pacus, Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:49 (11 months ago) Permalink
Ok, I love Desire Lines and the Hatchback, bought E2-E4 today and asked the clerk what in that vein he'd recommend and he immediately shoved the Jonas Munk in my hands. Glad he did. This thread is huge and filled with YouTubes. Please hit me with a few of the best titles from this thread while I browse back in time and play these songs and make my list.
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 26 August 2012 06:23 (8 months ago) Permalink
that double fantasy track is incredibly good...
― Hutton dressed as Lahm (LocalGarda), Friday, 18 January 2013 21:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
Found that Double Fantasy LP last weekend. Canadian pressing. Have to believe Carl Craig had a copy in the late 80s. The influence is so obvious.
― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 19 January 2013 05:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
universal ave is so great... "endless running"...
― Butt Trump tweet (Matt P), Saturday, 19 January 2013 06:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
i don't know if this is the right thread for this since it's more balearic than new age but wth, i love this song
― Butt Trump tweet (Matt P), Saturday, 19 January 2013 06:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
give me the original any day
― Hutton dressed as Lahm (LocalGarda), Saturday, 19 January 2013 09:23 (4 months ago) Permalink