the name 'mac miller' makes me think hes gonna come out wearing a no limit tank chain― deej, Saturday, March 12, 2011 10:57 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
― deej, Saturday, March 12, 2011 10:57 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
deej is REALLY into fratrap.tumblr.com
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
okay this is my first time listening to dude too
sounds like disney channel rap or something
are we sure this isn't just aaron carter using an alias
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
(re: mac miller)
this feels like the ilm equivalent of a new york times trendpiece
― iatee, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
the interesting thing about that video is that even tho it's a white dude rapping they still managed to shoehorn in a scene where a nerdy white dude gets in a circle and does bad dancing and everyone is like "lol white people"
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
haha, i didn't watch that long
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
they see Nas as the most recent musical prophet in a line stretching from Jimi Hendrix - > Bob Marley
― deej, Saturday, March 12, 2011 5:20 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark
this part is prob true
i don't see any evidence that these guys are popular at all, let alone moreso than OF
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:15 (2 years ago) Permalink
that mac miller knock knock 'kool aid' video has nearly 5 million youtube views
just fyi
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
frats like andre nikatina
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
I thought
we're old
i know ppl listen to mac miller cuz i've heard his name prior to this outside of ilm
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
qed motherfuckers
ime frats used to like popular rap. ludacris. 'big pimpin.' but frat dudes dont care about, like, black eyed peas and flo rida now
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
mac miller's 'donald trump' video came out one week ago and has more than 1 million views
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
is mac miller signed?
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
and the song sucks too!
sam adams 'i hate college remix' has 5 million views
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
this guy is really way worse than asher roth
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
for scale, the 'yonkers' video was tweeted by kanye west and still doesnt have 3 million views
― deej, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
and sam adams afaik hasnt been on national television either
tbph i find his flow on "donald trump" generic enough to be inoffensive, and the beat's not bad; i could see something like this, but with an actual hook of some sort, being a hit
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
(nb I said flow not lyrics — if i tried to pay attention to the latter i would get rolling-induced eyestrain before he stops to take a breath)
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
mike posner has hits, i wouldn't be surprised if this other stuff became popular
i don't find it very interesting tho bcuz it pretty much exists in its own universe
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
take over the world, watch ilm get mad
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
sam adams has been around for a while -- i'd seen his name before
idk what else to say about this stuff
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
it sucks
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
― deej, Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:19 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
btw i think it's wrongheaded to say that frat guys aren't into popular rap anymore -- these types of dudes are into drake, kanye, wiz and cudi especially
lupe is gonna sell 250k albums this week, i think males 18-25 are prob a large part of his fanbase
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
wiz is a big point of crossover tho
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 12 March 2011 23:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
― J0rdan S., Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:15 PM (42 minutes ago)
i go to school in new england and everyone knows who sam adams is, unfortunately
― kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Sunday, 13 March 2011 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
― J0rdan S., Saturday, March 12, 2011 6:33 PM (27 minutes ago)
this seems to be otm
xp that's just regional tho -- someone in cali would say the same thing about jerking
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 00:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
anyway these types of dudes have popularity, yes -- how much popularity i have no idea
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 00:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
i heard about sam adams via this (black) aspiring rapper dude who is in a frat that would sometimes link to his shit on facebook (this was before i hid him from my news feed)
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 00:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
― kl0p's son (k3vin k.), Saturday, March 12, 2011 7:01 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 13 March 2011 00:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
i think i just turned old
― the Hogg who would be Boss (will), Sunday, 13 March 2011 00:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
We opened for lupe at a small white liberal arts college last year. 2000 ppl or so. Jordan is correct in his assessment of lupe's audience
― gr8080 sings the blues (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 March 2011 00:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
The reason why wale's album bricked is cuz he and his label tried to connect with that market but I don't think he's fratty enough
His restarted career with maybach music seems to make more sense to me
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
j0rdan i know lupe & those guys are big w/ frat audiences too.
i think this is a break w/ that though ... these are artists who are frat-popular w/out being otherwise popular
― deej, Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:13 (2 years ago) Permalink
this shit is appalling, want to declare 100% allegiance w/goon crew on this, but "more popular than odd future" = because of YouTube views? not sure that's really a reliable gauge of popularity, tyler's on national tv, these guys are Popular On The Internet
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
lol IOW co-sign w/deej's last post. frat types are into all kinds of lame shit that normal ppl are repulsed by
i know thats not proof but there is no proof of anything any more -- we're lost in a sea of non-evidence of popularity -- my pt in bringing up youtube views is to show that just because we hear a lot about odd future in our social world doesnt mean there isnt another world out there that is paying attention to different stuff
i think the odd future focus of our blogosphere lately has been a bit myopic
& jordan's dismissive "well thats just like regional rap else where" thing ... so?? do those ppl deserve less weight than us because some of us happen to have blogs or write for publications?
― deej, Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
another world out there that is paying attention to different stuff
this has been the case throughout history though - as long as I've been listening to music I've been occasionally running across stuff where I go "really? people like that?" and then it turns out there's a whole huge demographic that just was off my general radar. yr right w/general observation that one's own focus tends to distort the broader picture but the broader picture has always kind of been more a conceit than an Actually Obtainable Thing
imo
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
but my main point was everybody otm this music is terrible
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
i guess i was teh one to big challenge on that since i claimed these guys are bigger than odd future but allow me to posit it this way then: "it is my theory that this stuff is actually galvanizing a really large group of people with considerably less media attention, a group of people the size of which is underestimated & may in fact exceed the popularity of a group like odd future, possibly"
― deej, Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
i was the one to BEG a challenge
deej otm i know nothing of these frat rappers but i knew some frat boys and i've heard of like phish and widespread panic and the "underground" frat circuit is not to be underestimated.
― ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
these guys get youtube hits sure but would people really buy this stuff
like are people listening to this for reasons beyond the lol irony factor of white dudes rapping
― dayo, Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah I can dig that, I mean what I'd say then is lots of popular stuff isn't really that interesting & that's why people who care about rap might have something to say about Odd Future but not about this -- it's just kind of a depressing albeit well-liked among some people thing, you know? I mean this is how I feel about pop & pop crit for the past 5+ years, myself, it's like lots of smart people wanna have something to say about Justin Bieber who I think deserves about exactly as much att'n as this stuff, because the music is garbage. And it always feels forced when mainstream critics are writing about what feels/sounds like a wasteland of crap in the pop world at the moment. You know? so odd future: if you love rap, you can sink your teeth into it, even if you don't like it you'll be able to get some riffs going about it, it feels worth talking. This? all you can really say is "yup...some people think McDonald's is great food to feed to your children, too" - food critics don't write about McDonald's, right
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 13 March 2011 01:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
hoodie allen & i are like BFFs now btw
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 December 2012 05:49 (5 months ago) Permalink
i wrote a rather scathing review of his show for the chi tribune & he tweeted a measured & nice response at me, which is rare. now we have conversations on twitter https://twitter.com/jordansarge/status/280113854791426048
he asked me for my email but nothing's come of that yet
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 December 2012 05:51 (5 months ago) Permalink
noz and mm trolling each other on twitter is funny, mainly because the latter is so constantly trying to be all "look i'm not such a bad guy," guess you fell for it haha
― some dude, Thursday, 20 December 2012 12:07 (5 months ago) Permalink
where's my white rapper to have an antagonistic/friendly twitter relationship with? :(
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 15:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
i have an antagonistic history w/ Mr. Whitefolks but it hasn't been taken to twitter
― ThePartyHater (some dude), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 15:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
oh wait i tweet w/ shamrock
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
shamrock is cool but it is kinda weird how these white rappers seek out white rap bloggers
tbf there are more of us than there are of them, percentage-wise
― ThePartyHater (some dude), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
wasnt malkelmaore tweeting at one of you
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
wtf is a hoodie allen and how is he playing a venue as big as the showbox market?
― chief keef olbermann (The Reverend), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 22:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 23:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
like, what hip-hop look is that supposed to be? To me it says "improv comic" or "kid who peeped on you in the bathroom stall at the hebrew school retreat"
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 23:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
improv comic = spot on
― chief keef olbermann (The Reverend), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 23:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
feel like there's a joke about headshots in this
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 23:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
...
"Hoodie Allen"
I mean
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 23:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
"Hoodie Allen" -- really?
― Helping 3 (Hurting 2), Sunday, August 21, 2011 12:40 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 23:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
every frat rapper has the exact same fake new york accent, they are all from the same place, fake new york
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 23:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
plainview, ny, apparently
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 23:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
― chief keef olbermann (The Reverend), Wednesday, January 9, 2013 5:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
haha at least a couple times since i've been writing a show calendar there's been some unfamiliar name headlining a good-sized venue and i look them up and i'm like oh duh, frat rapper. most recent one was Chris Webby.
― Chief Cypher Raige (some dude), Thursday, 10 January 2013 00:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
i believe Hoodie Allen's look is called "Mark Ronson" btw
Yo, have you heard the new Hoodie Allen record? Shit is BANANAS.
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 14 January 2013 17:33 (4 months ago) Permalink
Feel like it hasn't quite caught yet though. Bit of a sleeper.
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 14 January 2013 17:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
this is the thread where i think all of you are just fucking with me
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 14 January 2013 17:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
Chance the Rapper is working with Hoodie Allen, apparently. Poor kid.
― longneck, Monday, 14 January 2013 17:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
what hoodie allen song are you talking about
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 14 January 2013 17:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
oh boy i guess i have to know who this guy is huh
― the craziest half-court shots and wildest WAGs (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 March 2013 23:06 (2 months ago) Permalink