whaddya think ?
― Geordie Rocka, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Jeff, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Ally, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
I'll say dud for the simple fact that it was probably nothing more ingenius than Van Halen... it just seemed like it was... all the magickal atmosphere stuff came straight out of classic rock along with the hippie vibe Perry had going... Seems very well marketed and thought-out in retrospect. He was like a peace punk, huh? It feels like classic rock to me now. Back when I was a kid it didn't. Good music for kids, just like the rest of the Lollapalooza stuff.
― , Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
Kids who could never see eye to eye on anything - long hair in front vs. hair long in back, dead milkmen vs. led zeppelin, goth chicks and smiths fans, our u.s. equivalents of ravey davey and also student grant could all sing along (in a thin whinge in no way approximating perry ferrel's delivery). This is what made them great. Such extremes all in one group, Ain't No Right was like kick out the jams for us, a power-sander decadence.
It's easy to forget all that when you see pics of ferrell dj'ing progressive trance.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Stevie Nixed, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Omar, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
― ethan, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Dan Perry, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Mark, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
― keith, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Stevo, Friday, 4 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
― K-reg, Friday, 4 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
― achilles_last_stand, Saturday, 12 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink
Whatever this chap Stevie Nixed is taking it is clearly stronger than the bubbly orange that Jane's were partial to. For, Mr. Nixed is talking pure cock.
Jane's are incredible (though Raggett is right when he points out that Perry, for all his merits, remains eminently punchable).
All four musicians were fully out there and the ideas that permate Jane's music are ever hypnotic, hallucinatory and ecstatic. I can't get enough of these boys, even after listening to this stuff consistently for ten years.
So, classic, classic, classic. If you can't dig it, give up.
― Roger Fascist, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink
― Dan Perry, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink
― DeRayMi, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink
D'you think it's bad timing or coincidence that the band disolved after Ritual?
― dyson, Monday, 29 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink
Another point is the production on Shocking which I find a little flat - I don't feel that Jerden and Champagne were able to get the best out of the musicians or the Jane's sound at this point, although having said that, I do dig the rawer edge and the more incendiary drum sound.
Whereas on Ritual, the guys at the controls were able to set them for the heart of the sun and that's where the music takes me. As for the first few tracks, I dunno man... from the lead-in narrative, I'm hooked and that buzzsaw Navarro riff. Jesus. Then there's that pop-bass on No One's.. Oh mama. The album is littered with winning creative decisions. Y'know, sometimes in fact, Obvious is my favourite track off Ritual though I'm not sure why. Do you get thet?
Out of curiosity, anyone know about the new Jane's material? From what I can gather of the websites out there, they are in the studio working with fucking Paul Oakenfold! Where the hell is Jerden when you need him?
― Roger Fascist, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink
Where I deviate from the fan party line is that I think _Nothing's Shocking_ and _Ritual De Lo Habitual_ are equal; _NS_ is more consistent, but _RdlH_ has better songs on it. If I wanted to listen to an entire album, I'd grab _NS_. If I wanted to play selected songs, I'd grab _RdlH_.
― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 30 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink
OK, so it's not the Academy but it's not a bad compromise.
Better get on the blower to the ticket agencies pronto then...
Hello.
― Roger Fascist, Tuesday, 6 August 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink
― ron (ron), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 03:50 (10 years ago) Permalink
― ron (ron), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 03:53 (10 years ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 04:22 (10 years ago) Permalink
― ron (ron), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 04:50 (10 years ago) Permalink
uh, Neil Young? The only thing Jane's brought together were fratboys and fratgirls.
Verdict - Dud. They lie too much for truthseekers and are too pretentious to create something communal. And the junk culture stuff I have no use for.
Exception: Jane Says. Momentarily, the dream is alive. Especially when Dave Navarro isn't around.
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 08:46 (10 years ago) Permalink
Classic. Shocking is only nearly classic, but Ritual is beyond classic.
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 08:58 (10 years ago) Permalink
― Roger Fascist (Roger Fascist), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 09:39 (10 years ago) Permalink
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 09:47 (10 years ago) Permalink
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 10:51 (10 years ago) Permalink
― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 10 October 2005 03:45 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Cunga (Cunga), Monday, 10 October 2005 04:06 (7 years ago) Permalink
provided you skip "Been Caught Stealing."
Are you mad? (Mind you, the song always sounded better live.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 10 October 2005 05:13 (7 years ago) Permalink
I don't know much about Farrell as a person/ality. Why is he punchable?
― Sundar (sundar), Monday, 10 October 2005 05:44 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 10 October 2005 06:58 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 10 October 2005 08:30 (7 years ago) Permalink
Completely dud. Their brains are fried to the max. They look like shit. They're music is just plain bonkers like Zappa's: tries to be funny but fails miserably. I suspect they tried to do the sock thing but they couldn't find any baby socks...
And to think I'm reading the Brendan Mullen oral biography now. I still really don't understand why I even bothered to buy the book, even though I am not as hostile towards them as I once was. That said, PF seems to be such a dick. I also can't believe the "they are incredibly seminal, paved the way for the rest" bullshit line. I mean, maybe they were (in reality) but I refuse to believe it anyway.
― stevienixed, Monday, 11 June 2007 07:11 (5 years ago) Permalink
Classic Classic Classic
― nicky lo-fi, Monday, 11 June 2007 07:39 (5 years ago) Permalink
My little sister came over the other day to rip all my Jane's Addiction CDs. Her quip: "Yeah, I've really wanted to listen to Jane's Addiction lately, but couldn't bring myself to buy them." They belong to a different era, and stick out like a sore thumb in this one. But we listened to Nothings Shocking, and it still pushed my wig back with its bombastic excellence.
Kids who could never see eye to eye on anything - long hair in front vs. hair long in back, dead milkmen vs. led zeppelin, goth chicks and smiths fans, our u.s. equivalents of ravey davey and also student grant could all sing along
Jane's pretty much united the smoking section at my high school.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 11 June 2007 07:47 (5 years ago) Permalink
Classic.
Just Because.
― SeekAltRoute, Monday, 11 June 2007 10:06 (5 years ago) Permalink
i like them a lot but they definitely shone in a particular time and place. it resonates a lot less now, but the succession of 'three days' and 'then she did...' is still pretty mindblowing.
― Charlie Howard, Monday, 11 June 2007 14:46 (5 years ago) Permalink
I saw Satellite Party (Perry's new band) supporting Velvet Revolver on Thursday night. Never heard anything by them before, they were... ok. They did two JA songs - Stop! and Mountain Song - which got the biggest applause of the night.
It was a little bit sad though. I think maybe half of the people there knew who Perry Farrell was, half of them didn't care. People were just talking and drinking and paying no attention to this man who gave me one of the greatest nights of my life - Jane's Addiction live in a club in London in about 1987
― nate woolls, Monday, 11 June 2007 15:04 (5 years ago) Permalink
I find JA kind of annoying, but I missed out on them at the time they were around, hence missing out on their cultural context, which a lot of the above comments talk about.
also, i once saw my dad flipping channels, and the "been caught stealing" video was on. He muttered, "obscene son of a bitch..." under his breath before changing the channel.
― Richard Wood Johnson, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 15:48 (5 years ago) Permalink
yeah, now (this day and age) really isn't a particularly appropriate time to be considering this question somehow
― Charlie Howard, Thursday, 26 July 2007 07:40 (5 years ago) Permalink
Flipped my lid over "Jane Says" again which I played while running last week, and also heard in a small bar (pub) just after the World Cup.
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 16 June 2008 12:14 (4 years ago) Permalink
UGH @ this band
― stephen, Monday, 16 June 2008 23:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
Mostly dud. I liked the second half of Ritual where Farrell's awful lyrics and singing kind of disappear beneath the jam session when it came out, but they were so omnipresent at the time I might just have been looking for a silver lining to make listening to that album less annoying. The "hits" are all uniformly terrible.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 16 June 2008 23:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
"then she did" is one of the great all time sublime epic jams. i've been playing it on the juke box every time i hit the pool hall. i don't lose when it's on
― kamerad, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 00:19 (4 years ago) Permalink
they had their moments.
― Zeno, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 00:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
"pets" was played somewhere last week. brought back some memories. good song.
― Zeno, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 00:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
Pets, yeah. That one was pretty good. Wasn't that a side project after JA though?
― Bimble, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 02:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
The "hits" songs are all uniformly terrible.
― stephen, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 02:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
Porno for Pyros xpost
― Zeno, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 02:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
i think it's been mentioned 10 x in this thread, but the second half of ritual makes all the other silliness associated with this band almost worth it.
― will, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 03:05 (4 years ago) Permalink
Ritual and Nothing's Shocking are awesome.
Perry Ferrell is a dick.
― HI DERE, Tuesday, 17 June 2008 03:21 (4 years ago) Permalink
Back once more:
...it was confirmed on Dave Navarro's blog Tuesday that the entire lineup would reunite Thursday for a full show at La Cita Bar in downtown Los Angeles. The night is hosted by Shepard Fairey, who will break away from maniacally screenprinting Obama posters and T-shirts for the evening.
Eric A's been back with them this time around. Too little, too late. (His solo album's all right enough.)
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 October 2008 14:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://xiola.org/
2.25.09
i got my hands on some digital pics of jane's addiction's boxset cabinet of curiosities coming out april 21st and a track list. the packaging looks cool as shit. from the pics you can see quite a bit went into packaging. there is one main booklet, four individual sleeves highly decorated. it's gonna be four discs, 3 audio, one dvd.
unofficial track list
DISC [1]0.CD1.JANE SAYS (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [UNRELEASED]2.PIGS IN ZEN (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [SCREAM - THE COMPILATION]3.MOUNTAIN SONG (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [OST: DUDES]4.HAD A DAD (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [SINGLE]5.I WOULD FOR YOU (RADIO TOKYO DEMO) [SINGLE]6.IDIOT'S RULE [APRIL 1987 DEMO]7.CLASSIC GIRL [APRIL 1987 DEMO]8.UP THE BEACH [APRIL 1987 DEMO]9.SUFFER SOME [APRIL 1987 DEMO]10.THANK YOU BOYS [APRIL 1987 DEMO]11.SUMMERTIME ROLLS [APRIL 1987 DEMO]12.CITY [APRIL 1987 DEMO]13.OCEAN SIZE [APRIL 1987 DEMO]14.STOP [APRIL 1987 DEMO]15.STANDING IN THE SHOWER?THINKING [APRIL 1987 DEMO]16.AIN'T NO RIGHT [APRIL 1987 DEMO]17.THREE DAYS [APRIL 1987 DEMO]
DISC [2]0.CD1.TED, JUST ADMIT IT [HULLY GULLY DEMO (9/1987)]2.MACEO [HULLY GULLY DEMO (9/1987)]3.NO ONE'S LEAVING [HULLY GULLY DEMO (9/1987)]4.MY TIME (REHEARSAL) [UNRELEASED]5.BEEN CAUGHT STEALING (12"" REMIX) [SINGLE]6.RIPPLE [DEDICATED]7.DON'T CALL ME NIGGER, WHITEY [PROMO] *JANE'S ADDICTION & BODY COUNT8.L.A. MEDLEY (LIVE) [SINGLE]9.KETTLE WHISTLE (LIVE) [VARIETY ARTS CENTER(7/10/1987)]10.WHOLE LOTTA LOVE (LIVE) [SACRAMENTO (7/8/1987)]11.1970 (LIVE) [SEATTLE (12/11/1987)]12.BOBHAUS (LIVE) [SEATTLE (3/29/1989)]13.JUST BECAUSE (ACOUSTIC) [UNRELEASED]14.SUFFER SOME (LIVE) [SINGLE]15.THE PRICE I PAY (LIVE) [SINGLE]
DISC [3]0.CD1.DRUM INTRO [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]2.UP THE BEACH (LIVE) [KETTLE WHISTLE]3.WHORES (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]4.1% (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]5.NO ONE'S LEAVING (LIVE) [SINGLE]6.AIN'T NO RIGHT (LIVE) [SINGLE]7.THEN SHE DID (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]8.HAD A DAD (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]9.BEEN CAUGHT STEALING (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]10.THREE DAYS (LIVE) [KETTLE WHISTLE]11.MOUNTAIN SONG (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]12.STOP! (LIVE) [KETTLE WHISTLE]13.SUMMERTIME ROLLS (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]14.OCEAN SIZE (LIVE) [HOLLYWOOD PALLADIUM (12/19/90)]
DISC [4]0.DVD1.MOUNTAIN SONG (UNEDITED) [SOUL KISS]2.CITY [SOUL KISS]3.HAD A DAD [PROMO CLIP]4.MOUNTAIN SONG [PROMO CLIP]5.STOP! [PROMO CLIP]6.AIN'T NO RIGHT [PROMO CLIP]7.BEEN CAUGHT STEALING [PROMO CLIP]8.CLASSIC GIRL [PROMO CLIP]9.OCEAN SIZE [PROMO CLIP]10.JANES SAYS [PROMO CLIP]11.WHORES [LIVE - ITALY]12.THREE DAYS [LIVE - ITALY]13.THEN SHE DID [LIVE - ITALY]14.DON'T CALL ME NIGGER WHITEY (LIVE) [UNRELEASED]
― Bee OK, Friday, 27 February 2009 06:35 (4 years ago) Permalink
Hmm. Well that I'll get.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 February 2009 06:38 (4 years ago) Permalink
otoh i understand people putting out these tricked-out sets and everything because how else are you going to get anyone to spend any money on music. but even people who don't live in city apartments don't have like endless amounts of display space for all this stuff, do they? i literally would have no place to put that thing. (yes ok i could buy it, rip it and throw away the box. but jeez.)
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Friday, 27 February 2009 07:01 (4 years ago) Permalink
gimme the dvd, the rest i can take or leave. even the shittiest janes youtube clips are pretty enthralling.
― ian, Friday, 27 February 2009 07:25 (4 years ago) Permalink
Got the advance of this box in this morning's mail. I was at the show included on Disc 3, so am pretty excited to dig into that, but the demos and such on the first two discs look pretty compelling too.
― unperson, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:41 (4 years ago) Permalink
Oh, now I have to buy that.
BTW, I always thought it was: "One night I met a poet."
― Alex in NYC, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah I'm definitely getting this.
― nate woolls, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, it seems pretty clearly to be "One night I met a poet." I was listening to that song not two days ago and had absolutely no confusion about the lyric...
― unperson, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:51 (4 years ago) Permalink
It's very distinctly that and not anything else, although Raggett's suggestion is superiorl.
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Monday, 16 March 2009 15:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
superior.
Superiorlol. And I still prefer it.
I was at the show included on Disc 3
Okay so I hate you (I remember being pissed I had to miss that show -- that and the Pet Shop Boys in March 1991 are my two greatest 'argh if only' regrets from UCLA days, I think. I did see Jane's about a month or so later at the Universal with NIN opening, though, so there's that.)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 March 2009 16:12 (4 years ago) Permalink
Oh shit, this band.
― thank you, flipper, for nickelback (country matters), Thursday, 16 July 2009 21:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
This band live.
This band dead
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 21:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
rong
― thank you, flipper, for nickelback (country matters), Thursday, 16 July 2009 21:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
LJ catching up on 1991
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 16 July 2009 21:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
2009 baby
― thank you, flipper, for nickelback (country matters), Thursday, 16 July 2009 21:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
Every band member still great live except for Brüno
― Jamie_ATP, Thursday, 16 July 2009 21:39 (3 years ago) Permalink
motherfuckin' took the pain
― Euler, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 13:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
yes
― Mayor Hickenlooper and the liberal agenda (HI DERE), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 21:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
How many times is Jane's Addiction going to rise from the dead? (This time, Dave Sitek is the bassist.) New song, "End to the Lies"
http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2011/03/30/janes-addiction-end-to-the-lies-stream-great-escape-artists/
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 March 2011 21:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
Absolute must-read piece from Bill See, who was there, man. (Seriously, he was there, as a singer for his own band; he's also a v. good writer.)
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/feature/144500-janes-affliction/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 16:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
It is a great read, but also somewhat depressing to think that you really didn't hear the "real" Jane's unless you happened to be in L.A. watching them live before the first album.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 16:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
Based on the various live cuts I've heard on bootlegs before Nothing's Shocking came out, I suspect he's OTM in the end. (And I say this loving those first three albums and the shows I did see.)
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 16:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oh, I'm sure he's 100% right, but as much as I love those first three albums it pains me a little to know even that wasn't the band's peak.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 16:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
yesterday I turned on alt-radio for the first time in a long long time and heard some moody goth-influenced rock song rolling out of my speakers that fired off every want impulse in my body
it was "Irresistible Force"
― Rob Based and DJ EZ God (DJP), Thursday, 25 August 2011 16:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
the "three days"/"then she did..." one-two.
― strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 25 August 2011 16:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
add on "Of Course" and you have the most devastating 1-2-3 of 1991-1992
― Rob Based and DJ EZ God (DJP), Thursday, 25 August 2011 16:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
The demos he mentions are really good (although not sure if they're so decisively better than the album versions).
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Oh, I'm sorry. I'm used to getting grease on my hands, you know, workin' with pizza and all."
― lag∞na beach: the real ∞range c∞unty (beachville), Friday, 16 March 2012 12:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
JA played a school benefit for my kid's school yesterday, there were about 500 kids/parents there:
I hadn't seen them perform in over 22 years (with Dinosaur Jr. opening up). They still sounded pretty good.
Good times.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 15 October 2012 18:03 (7 months ago) Permalink
"thanks for coming out, this benefit will get these kids the updated math books they need so that they don't end up as... WHORES! *music starts"
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Monday, 15 October 2012 18:05 (7 months ago) Permalink
"Been Caught Stealin'! Once, in study hall!"
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 October 2012 18:08 (7 months ago) Permalink
*insert trolling of your own choice here*
― quiddities and agonies of the rolling class (Mr Andy M), Monday, 15 October 2012 18:43 (7 months ago) Permalink
http://open.spotify.com/track/13EpmgPUF4KL4TlXOGqUPDhttp://open.spotify.com/track/4adGevk93O42gzhGUIjHRahttp://open.spotify.com/track/4FIVO1LXRTjdewCtJv3qzW
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Monday, 15 October 2012 18:46 (7 months ago) Permalink
that entire sequence is perfection
― The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Monday, 15 October 2012 18:47 (7 months ago) Permalink
the whole 1990 Milan tv broadcast.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 19 February 2013 02:27 (3 months ago) Permalink