Katy B - On A Mission (4 April 2011) - hype, anticipation &c

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So On A Mission‘s out this April. Who are you working with and what can we expect to hear?

“The main producer i’m working with is Geeneus, he runs Rinse FM and first heard me while I was singing over house tunes. He approached me to do some work with him along with DJ Zinc and thats how the process of Katy B started really. Geeneus produced most the album and in the past he’s made grime, Funky and dubstep. Zinc comes from a drum’n'bass and jungle background, but concentrates more on house now, so [there's] a lot of London underground influences in terms of sound, with my little vocals over the top.”

http://www.factmag.com/2011/02/16/five-minutes-with-katy-b/

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

the single so far, for those who haven't heard yet:

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

Was just thinking about starting this thread a couple of days ago. I'm ancitipating this more than pretty much any release this year. Glad to see Perfect Stranger is on there as well.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm kind of looking forward to it. I've always loved her voice As I and Tell me are still all time funky vocal faves of mine so if anything even vaugly sounds that good on this or is at least kinda fun like the singles it'll be worth a listen I'm sure.

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

Can't remember who did it, but there's a d'n'b remix of On A Mission which I prefer to the OG.

dentarthurdent (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

Zinc as co-producer is a good move as well, he's great at doing updated twists on 90s house, which is kinda the vibe I expect from the album.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

In terms of artists I’d say Adele, she was in my class at school and she has an amazing voice so I can’t wait to hear her album. James Blake was in my class as well so I’m excited to hear what he’s made, i haven’t heard it either yet.

Is there some secret UK music school I don't know about?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yes. 95% of all UK pop music now comes from the same school:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRIT_School

Matt DC, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

She went to BRIT school with Adele and Goldsmiths with James Blake - it's the double.

DL, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

the triple - she was at RBMA with jackmaster, lunice, braiden and illum sphere too...

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 12:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's like the Bullingdon Club - everyone knows everyone else.

DL, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 13:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

Wouldn't mind hearing a Katy B & P Money collab. On a beat like Airmiles by Swindle or DOK's remix of Terror Danjah's Sidechain. Something grimy and ravey with loads of colour. It could work well.

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 13:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

I would prob just end up being on something Sweetshop by Doctor P though lol

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 13:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

Is there some secret UK music school I don't know about?

you know Four Tet, Hot Chip, Burial and the XX all went to the same (as each other) school too?

basically just a 2/47 freak out (sic), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 13:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

Surely not at the same time? Four Tet feels like he's been around so much longer than the others.

This album's as exciting for the possible effect on British dance-pop as it is as a record in its own right. If it's both good and a success it might help kill off the shonky electro collaboration for good.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 13:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

not in the same year of course, no. let's think of it as a relay.

kinda amazed that the album is only happening now! when I was in London last year, approximately every single wall in the city had 4 KATY ON A MISSION posters plastered on it, surprising to now realise that promo spend was only for the single

basically just a 2/47 freak out (sic), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 13:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

That school sounds a bit like an episode of Skins, all the older famous ones you vaguely recognise are the teachers/parents and the younger ones get up to high-jinx and try and bother the charts. No one ever leaves, they all live there.

jimitheexploder, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 13:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

since its not on youtube, fave katy b track (since 'as i' at least)

http://soundcloud.com/dominorecordco/the-count-sinden-feat-katy-b-hold-me

idgi fridays (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 13:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

It makes me really happy that all of the singles have been so successful so far, despite (squillions of posters aside, and in Glasgow I've not seen any) what I would perceive to be relatively minimal hype. It would be wonderful if the sound Katy B works in - distinctly UK urban pop - were to become a new template for pop in general. I could get behind Radio One if they were playing "As I" clones all afternoon instead of sexless r&b-tinged electropop.

o0o00h really? (boxedjoy), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 18:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Definitely. There's something intensely likable about her stuff - the raver next door. I'm not surprised she's a big Neneh Cherry fan.

DL, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 18:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

Reassuringly creepy looking.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 19:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Is that Katy B's house?

DL, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 19:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

haha trying to imagine katy b recording her album in a church

it could work! that church in dalston that's been renovated as a rave venue

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 19:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

Hah, that was meant to go on the PJ Harvey thread, in case you hadn't guessed.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 19:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

Katy B - In A Mission

seminal fuiud (NickB), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 19:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

I am laying the word-of-mouth groundwork in the U.S. (I got one person I work with to listen and she liked Katy B. I doubt she has her on her iPod yet though.)

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 20:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

Broken Record is good. Not sure if it's going to be an official single?

abcfsk, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 20:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think i heard broken record was going to be next single, in which case i approve. so excited for this album!

teledyldonix, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 20:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

<3 Katy B. Mucho excited for this.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 23:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

very much looking forward to this.

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 17 February 2011 00:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

Count me among the super-excited. Katy B is one of my favorite discoveries from the EOY polls. What was the name of "Mission"'s B-side? I wz kinda bummed that that had been left off the album's tracklist...

kingkongvsbasedgodzilla (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 17 February 2011 06:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

do you mean "louder"? yeah, i didn't even notice it isn't on the tracklist until you mentioned it :\

teledyldonix, Thursday, 17 February 2011 06:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

^Why no "Louder"? That song is too good to be categorized as a buzz single.

Also, I'm glad people are anticipating her album on here. I've been wanting to listen to this more than Lady Gaga or Britney. I loved all the singles so far. I kinda like the idea she learned music in school too.

Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Friday, 18 February 2011 03:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

That song is too good to be categorized as a buzz single.

it's not categorised as a "buzz single," it's a b-side

The Marquis de Sade Adu (sic), Friday, 18 February 2011 06:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

odd for b-sides to get videos, esp given that she can't have a huge budget (not that it looks like it cost much to shoot)

lex pretend, Friday, 18 February 2011 07:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

abcfsk, Wednesday, 2 March 2011 20:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

This is a really nice album!

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Thursday, 3 March 2011 23:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

Really nice as in... cheese pop with a load of dance signifiers that manages to not quite sound like shit? Cos that’s something I can get on board with!

jimitheexploder, Thursday, 3 March 2011 23:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

Not feeling "Broken Record".

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Thursday, 3 March 2011 23:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

Me either worst of the lot yet by far.

Lights On might be my fave so far and I wasn't that keen on it at first. It seems to have the most legs out of all the singles. On A Mission isn't really working for me anymore and Louder was a bit, well not there...

jimitheexploder, Thursday, 3 March 2011 23:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

Really nice as in... cheese pop with a load of dance signifiers that manages to not quite sound like shit? Cos that’s something I can get on board with!

― jimitheexploder, Thursday, 3 March 2011 23:34 (Yesterday) Bookmark

Yes, exactly.

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Friday, 4 March 2011 14:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

Has this leaked?

Matt DC, Friday, 4 March 2011 14:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

i am feeling "broken record"

teledyldonix, Friday, 4 March 2011 16:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't like it and I suddenly am expecting this album to disappoint me. (But if I expect it to disappoint me, can I still be disappointed?)

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 4 March 2011 22:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Broken Record" is very much an album track rather than single. I'm still expecting this album to be great.

Okay Pet Shop Boys Aren't That Bad. (lilsoulbrother), Saturday, 5 March 2011 02:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

Lots of remixes up of Broken Record on Rinse's youtube

Jacques Greene is my pick of the bunch so far and it isn't to hot, Todd Edwards is ok, Geeneus' funky remix doesn't really sound like funky... all a bit weak really. hmm...

jimitheexploder, Monday, 7 March 2011 11:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

Love Broken Record. The remixes don't sound too hot, though.

abcfsk, Monday, 7 March 2011 12:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

Quite like the JG. It's opened up the original for me a bit. Haven't heard the Geeneus mix yet but curious where he goes with it.

Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill The Radio Star (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 7 March 2011 12:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

broken records not bad. sounds like something from the late 90s. im imagining the album will be like recent skream/magnetic man, just with songs.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 7 March 2011 12:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yes, although it is less horrible than those two albums.

barieling cosder chout a fagh in a ballme thrantuman (dog latin), Monday, 7 March 2011 12:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

...and thank fuck for that, eh.

Combat Fallacious Approval (Branwell Bell), Thursday, 20 February 2014 08:55 (8 months ago) Permalink

yawn

r|t|c, Thursday, 20 February 2014 09:02 (8 months ago) Permalink

fart

Eric H., Thursday, 20 February 2014 14:20 (8 months ago) Permalink

challenge lawro

pandemic, Friday, 21 February 2014 18:00 (8 months ago) Permalink

Finally gotten around to Katy B, which is great. However, talk of this singer Ny upthread made me seek out that Split Endz vol. 2 mixtape, and it kinda blows my mind as I'm sitting here.

Mule, Sunday, 23 February 2014 14:25 (8 months ago) Permalink

yeah that's a pretty special mixtape. can't believe how little she's lived up to her obvious talent since, either in terms of attention or, to be honest, material, bar a couple of singles here and there

lex pretend, Monday, 24 February 2014 08:24 (8 months ago) Permalink

i've been spending some time w/ this album lately... "i like you" is a jam!! overall the album's been slower to grow on me than the debut but i can't quite articulate why yet

dyl, Monday, 3 March 2014 19:35 (7 months ago) Permalink

I just listened to this whole album and holy smokes it is really good!!

"Jiggle It" - 2 in a Zoo (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 14 March 2014 18:11 (7 months ago) Permalink

"5 am" and the first track ("next thing"? or something) are two of my most played songs this year

markers, Friday, 28 March 2014 15:50 (6 months ago) Permalink

5 am is breathtaking.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 28 March 2014 18:17 (6 months ago) Permalink

Apparently Still is going to be the next single which I really don't think is a great choice. Think she should have gone with a proper release of Aaliyah or maybe Everything. If it had to be another ballad she should have at least gone with Emotions which is a way better song.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 30 March 2014 03:52 (6 months ago) Permalink

Still is an amazingly great closer, but I cannot imagine it as a single.

(Also, why are all the singles from this album so... ballad-y, when ballad-y is not what she does best?)

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Sunday, 30 March 2014 08:31 (6 months ago) Permalink

"Emotions" is THE one for me now, the bit where she sings "so let me in and close the door / nothing really matters anymore" and it explodes into rudimental drums after several minutes of sparse, taut buildup is so cathartic

all is fair in love and womp (monotony), Sunday, 30 March 2014 08:42 (6 months ago) Permalink

this album campaign is being managed hideously though i guess that's not new news, just reinforced news

lex pretend, Sunday, 30 March 2014 08:50 (6 months ago) Permalink

was 5am a US single? i feel like that one and crying-for-no-reason are the songs most likely to become huge pop hits.

Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 30 March 2014 10:54 (6 months ago) Permalink

(asking about US cuz i imagine katy b's already a huge star in the UK)

Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 30 March 2014 10:54 (6 months ago) Permalink

those are the only two songs that have videos so far i think

markers, Sunday, 30 March 2014 16:43 (6 months ago) Permalink

i'm not sure she has singles specifically for the us at this point, she really has next to zero presence in this country. like her first album sold 6000 copies or something.

still is the next single?? good lord

dyl, Sunday, 30 March 2014 16:49 (6 months ago) Permalink

markers, Sunday, 30 March 2014 17:40 (6 months ago) Permalink

this album campaign is being managed hideously though i guess that's not new news, just reinforced news

― lex pretend

I feel like the campaign has been going quite well up until now. Crying was a big hit for her and was a perfect choice to help launch the album. Choosing Still as the next single is a big misstep though, two ballads in a row is now a good idea for her.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 30 March 2014 17:40 (6 months ago) Permalink

markers, Sunday, 30 March 2014 17:41 (6 months ago) Permalink

Just realised I had forgotten the biggest mistake of this campaign which was putting some of the best songs as bonus tracks. Hot Like Fire would be perfect as the next single.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 30 March 2014 17:42 (6 months ago) Permalink

it's three ballads in a row after "5am". yeah by hideous campaign i mean three ballads in a row, appalling sequencing, bonus track fuckery...

lex pretend, Sunday, 30 March 2014 18:18 (6 months ago) Permalink

i'm not sure she has singles specifically for the us at this point, she really has next to zero presence in this country. like her first album sold 6000 copies or something.

― dyl, Sunday, March 30, 2014

that is a shame because 5AM and cryin' for no reason are the kind of pop songs that can launch careers. cryin' for no reason is the second-best pop song i've heard this year, behind only one high-concept song that really touched the zeitgeist.

Daniel, Esq 2, Sunday, 30 March 2014 20:25 (6 months ago) Permalink

I listen to Crying For No Reason daily. so good.

My god. Pure ideology. (ey), Sunday, 30 March 2014 20:30 (6 months ago) Permalink

Guy Chambers. Just... no.

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Sunday, 30 March 2014 21:09 (6 months ago) Permalink

Crying For No Reason is fine for what it is, which is the sort of none-more-broad landfill pop ballad that songwriting guns for hire produce for artists when the record label suddenly has a lot of money riding on them and secretly little faith in them actually delivering.

It's obviously effective, because it was a hit and got played on Radio 2 and she now has a #1 album, but Katy is a better songwriter than Guy Chambers in her own right and Crying... has none of her personality or spark.

Matt DC, Monday, 31 March 2014 08:54 (6 months ago) Permalink

i really like "crying for no reason" though i think it's boilerplate pop songwriting taken to another level by the restraint and space in the production, and personality and warmth in katy's voice BUT the idea that it's peak little red or peak katy b let alone peak 2014 pop is completely nuts

lex pretend, Monday, 31 March 2014 10:08 (6 months ago) Permalink

bun guy chambers, bun sia furler, bun all of these super-rich pop hacks

lex pretend, Monday, 31 March 2014 10:08 (6 months ago) Permalink

It's just kinda depressing that some marketing team thought like Katy B "needed" Guy Chambers to get to number one in 2014. Given 2013 was the year when loads and loads of stuff around the edges of ~what Katy B does~ got to number 1 in the UK.

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Monday, 31 March 2014 11:19 (6 months ago) Permalink

i'm not opposed to katy b balladry in principle and am v much a fan of "crying", but it seems rather thick to release "still" when the trend this year is skewed toward black butter or stuff that sounds like black butter - "my love", "rather be", "ready for your love", "i got you", etc etc etc (and there's more to come, that kiesza single is pulling extraordinary numbers on pre-orders and looks set to be one of the biggest singles of the year), AND it's not like the album is short on bangers.

all is fair in love and womp (monotony), Monday, 31 March 2014 12:20 (6 months ago) Permalink

i'm not opposed to katy b balladry, i'm opposed to guy chambers balladry that's only just saved because it's katy b.

it's odd that any old unknown duke dumont or route 94 can score number ones but katy herself has never really come close, though perhaps that just illustrates that getting to number one is overrated as a marker of success.

i suspect the entire hideousness of this campaign is down to them wanting to break her to a new audience rather than just score dance hits like they know she can.

lex pretend, Monday, 31 March 2014 12:47 (6 months ago) Permalink

if chart position is overrated as a marker of success, what's a better marker? genuine q, and i'm not sure i agree with the proposition in the first place but interested to explore what "success" means in the era of freemium

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 31 March 2014 13:51 (6 months ago) Permalink

if chart position is overrated as a marker of success, what's a better marker?

ILM love.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 March 2014 13:58 (6 months ago) Permalink

ILM love basically means you're doomed, commercially.

BLEEEEEEE Monday (Branwell Bell), Monday, 31 March 2014 14:02 (6 months ago) Permalink

Lots of prosaic reasons why one record might get to #1 and another might not. Katy's had four Top 20 singles. She's doing OK.

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Monday, 31 March 2014 14:14 (6 months ago) Permalink

markers, Monday, 31 March 2014 23:44 (6 months ago) Permalink

still sounds a bit better outside of the album but i'm definitely ready for her to turn towards some of the less maudlin tracks

le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 1 April 2014 15:42 (6 months ago) Permalink

tom shorterz remix of crying for no reason is the one

Benny B, Tuesday, 1 April 2014 23:52 (6 months ago) Permalink

shorterz has gone back and done a superlative shuffle mix of 'lights on' as well now, kicks off the 26/03 0231 show

he is a splendid chap

r|t|c, Thursday, 3 April 2014 08:33 (6 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

i think i love her.

Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 00:35 (6 months ago) Permalink

I like her a little bit.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 April 2014 00:50 (6 months ago) Permalink

more than i should

dyl, Wednesday, 23 April 2014 02:28 (6 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

she's mentioned the title track that never made the main album a few times, it's ended up as a free download for carnival. it's pretty nice! katy takes to reggae surprisingly well.

https://soundcloud.com/katyb/littleredlight

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 14:50 (2 months ago) Permalink

Please, please, please, can someone (well, presumably someone who knows my regular email address) email me the new track? SoundCloud does not work on my antiquated laptop. :(

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 11:01 (2 months ago) Permalink

i'll email you when i'm near my hard drive

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 11:48 (2 months ago) Permalink

Cheers!

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 11:52 (2 months ago) Permalink

i'm sayin

r|t|c, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:43 (1 month ago) Permalink

(doesn't know if and when it'll come out)

r|t|c, Thursday, 28 August 2014 16:44 (1 month ago) Permalink


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