The Beatles of American Folk - The Handsome Family

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A justifiable claim? In what sense, that, like, the Beatles took oldy-timey then redundant 40s an' 50s stuff and reinvigorated it with some sort of coquettish disdain and made it super popular AND the Handsome Family, err, do this with the Anothology of American Folk (which, bestillmybleedingheart, I might do a rock-crit-formalist-monolith and review every track of if anyone is in on helping me, hahaha)? A justifiable claim?

david h (david h), Sunday, 25 August 2002 10:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

(what happened to the 'calling out grey ham' thread? did something go off without me seeing it?)

david h (david h), Sunday, 25 August 2002 10:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

I love the Handsomes, but (hate to be super obvious) they're not quite "super popular" are they? There's probably a more accurate (and modest) Brit semi-pop parallel. Not the Kinks, exactly, but...

Keith Harris (kharris1128), Sunday, 25 August 2002 14:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, abt a zillion other ppl 'reinvigorated' the Anthology long before the Handsome Family were even a twinkling in the alt. country firmament - most esp. Bob Dylan - and the only thing that the HF seem to have in common w/ the Beatles is a similar taste for lame-o comedy/novelty songs. Besides, the Beatles were a lot closer - emotionally and historically - to the Carl Perkins etc. covers that they were doing - I think there was v. little 'disdain' or irony involved, more like hero-worship and unconditional love...

Andrew L (Andrew L), Sunday, 25 August 2002 15:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

It wasn't me that said this, it was Greil Marcus... Anyone gonna take it seriously now?, hahaha

david h (david h), Monday, 26 August 2002 08:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

No.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 26 August 2002 12:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nobody I know hears any "coquettish disdain" for traditional music in the Handsome Family. But I live in Chicago, and around here they're more likely to be lumped in with straight-faced country revivalists than with people they actually sound like...ie. The Magnetic Fields or They Might Be Giants.

I certainly don't hear any "disdain" in their music...definitely "distance" (and yes sometimes even - god forbid - "ironic" distance) but not "disdain." They clearly love and understand folk music, they just don't waste much energy pretending that they are "folk." Good for them.

Clyde, Tuesday, 27 August 2002 17:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Has anybody heard the new album? I love every album up to, but not including, Twilight, and am very curious about the latest one. I just can't afford to get it yet, unless it's one of the best albums of the year, or something. I'd easily give up one day of eating in exchange for a great Handsome Family album.

Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Thursday, 6 November 2003 02:14 (twenty years ago) link

While I certainly appreciate where they're coming from, I've seen 'em live twice and they managed to both bore and annoy me (of course they did have the misfortune of following the thoroughly engaging, always entertaining Tim Prudhomme of Fuck fame...)

So, tell me what record would change my mind.

Will (will), Thursday, 6 November 2003 03:06 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
In The Air, probably.

gear (gear), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:08 (eighteen years ago) link

if I had to suggest a POX:

"Weightless Again"
"The Giant of Illinois"
"Don't Be Scared"
"Cold Cold Cold"
"Passenger Pigeons"
"Lie Down"
"A Beautiful Thing"
"So Much Wine"
"Amelia Earhart Vs. The Dancing Bear"
"All The TVs In Town"

gear (gear), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:11 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Sometimes they're all I want to listen to. Then I get paranoid that anything I write will end up looking like a pale imitation of Rennie Sparks. My current favorite line:

"Like the screams of your Aunt Barbara, who went crazy in the 70's
Wrote poems to Jimmy Carter, but forgot to feed her kids"

POX:

"Weightless Again" (apparently Brett thought the lyrics "totally sucked")
"All the Time in Airports"
"Lake Geneva"
"Lie Down"
"Drunk By Noon"
"Amelia Earhart vs. the Dancing Bear"
"Birds You Cannot See" (this almost reduced me to tears a few nights ago, and it's one of their more optimistic songs)
"Cold Cold Cold"
"The Snow White Diner"
"Hunter Green"

Thread title blows, btw.

clotpoll, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 06:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Absolutely amazing in small doses, but does anyone else find them a little monochromatic? When I want to hear them I tend to go to either the live album or the best of.

The guy who just votes in polls, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 15:09 (sixteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Bumping the thread to express gratitude to 2002 (!) Clyde for comparing The Handsome Family to TMBG (and rinsing out the horror of the thread title in turn)... in fact I'd go a step further and call Rennie Sparks & John Linnell kindred songwriters who've grokked (through the more musically adept halves of their duos) opposed genres -- American folk & synth-pop -- as filters for their deadpan whack. The similarity is uncanny. Q is, is this a superficial product of convergent evolution or do they share the same influences? Think they both read plain poetry? (Philip Larkin)

Adam J Duncan, Friday, 17 July 2015 09:07 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

TMBG? WTF? Makes more sense than Beatles I suppose.

Anyhow, just released a music vid for their upcoming (Sept) LP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvtmGU1Co4E

Adam J Duncan, Sunday, 24 July 2016 03:25 (seven years ago) link

They've written so many great songs. The Handsome Family songbook will make an awesome collection some time in the distant future. Is Andrew Bird the only one who regularly covers them?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 July 2016 03:31 (seven years ago) link

Saw them play in Fall River, Mass. a few years ago. There couldn't have been more than 40 people in the audience. Very disappointing turnout, but they were great.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 28 July 2016 11:02 (seven years ago) link

Just read a story about them and this line made be chuckle: "Cult husband and wife duo Rennie and Brett Sparks rose to fame in 2015 after Oscar-winning actor Matthew McConaughey picked their track 'Far From Any Road' as the theme to hit HBO TV show True Detective."

Rose to fame? Really?

Jazzbo, Thursday, 28 July 2016 11:05 (seven years ago) link

Also the idea that an actor, even a lead one, decided on the show's theme tune is unlikely. Plus, it premiered in 2014.

heaven parker (anagram), Thursday, 28 July 2016 11:26 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

Saw them last week, they introduced "Far From Any Road" with "many years ago, we were hanging out on Matthew McConaughey's yacht..."

The new album has a few overly familiar melodies and themes but "Underneath the falls" is the best thing I've heard from them in years.

JoeStork, Friday, 9 December 2016 16:38 (seven years ago) link

I'm a fan but have found the last three albums a total snooze. But I also recognize that I'm not sure what I actually want or require from a new Handsome Family album in 2016.

Wimmels, Friday, 9 December 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, Last Days of Wonder was the last one that I really wanted to go back to, and it certainly had its flaws. They're always a treat live though. "Gold" on the new one is worth hearing as well.

JoeStork, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link

Me too re: Last Days, and I love that one

Wimmels, Friday, 9 December 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

I love their first 4 albums but after which they dropped off my radar. What's their best stuff since "In The Air"?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 4 March 2017 14:05 (seven years ago) link

I've heard them all, and Last Days of Wonder is my favorite. Some of their greatest songs ("After We Shot The Grizzly," "Our Blue Sky," "Bowling Alley Bar") and very few skippers

Haven't connected with the last three for some reason. I don't know what I'm expecting from them, because I don't want them to radically change their sound or anything, but they've been at it long enough where you could probably pretty easily write a Handsome Fam parody song by now

Wimmels, Saturday, 4 March 2017 14:29 (seven years ago) link

Some good stuff from the post In the Air albums, I'd say Last Days and Twilight are the strongest:

The Snow White Diner
Cold Cold Cold
All the TVs in Town
Sleepy
All The Time In Airports
After We Shot The Grizzly
Hunter Green
Darling My Darling
Gold
Underneath the Falls
Tiny Tina

I'm not sure I actually listened to Wilderness, and Honey Moon is sketchy in my memory except that "Darling My Darling" is a real cute song about mantises and "The Loneliness of Magnets" is torturous to hear live. Listening to some of it on Spotify "Little Sparrows" sounds nice but there's not a lot that sticks besides the painful crooning songs.

JoeStork, Saturday, 4 March 2017 17:37 (seven years ago) link


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