The producer known as ACTRESS and his r&b concrète

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this is great! listened to previous album at the time and it left no impression, maybe i was too hasty

'r&b concrète' is the sort of self decription that usually entices and then disappoints but it's quite fitting in this case

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 03:38 (six years ago) Permalink

this fuckin BURIES the competition

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 04:39 (six years ago) Permalink

post linx

acoleuthic, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 04:42 (six years ago) Permalink

there's a mediafire link on the second page of results, idk

and

http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4141569-lost-10-of-2010-1--actress-splazsh

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 04:47 (six years ago) Permalink

"r&b concrète" is not an 'enticing' description lmao

zvookster, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:12 (six years ago) Permalink

self description

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:13 (six years ago) Permalink

kinda is

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:14 (six years ago) Permalink

ilx is full of ppl having their grand claims for their music dismissed, just this once u gotta allow it's kinda apt

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:17 (six years ago) Permalink

it could be apt

zvookster, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:18 (six years ago) Permalink

zvookster, runoff

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Been listening to this for the last ten days or so... there are a few songs ("Lost" especially) that stood out right away. The rest I've been warming up to.

Wire named this their #1 album of the year, btw.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:32 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm guessing a few respondents itt will have seen it there

not an egregiously 'wire'ish album tho, i can imagine ppl who have never heard of luc ferrari enjoying it

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:34 (six years ago) Permalink

excellent album, though not quite one of my very favorites of the year. i've been playing it for a month or two, and enjoy it while it's on, but find that it leaves little impression after the fact. i wonder if this is perhaps due to the fact that it inhabits a genre i spend little time with (i have never heard of luc ferrari, ftr), so i'm less able to identify its most distinctive traits? anyway, i particularly enjoy the stretch from "maze" through "let's fly," songs that fans of this type of thing never seem to mention.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 05:42 (six years ago) Permalink

don't wanna sound like a hater, but it's ok. I can see how people who haven't heard Steve Poindexter and Musique Records and Hieroglyphic Being might find it groundbreaking -- it kinda straddles the middle ground between that sound, and the abstract side of US deep house like DJ Qu and M. Pittman, w/ a bit of Chillwave enabled haze thrown in. but beyond the admittedly quite cool sound design the compositions seem to me a bit generic at times, I don't get how it "BURIES the competition". i do like the track "Hubble" a lot

he's a good dj btw, plays loads of Flyte Tyme and New Jack Swing and 90s house and stuff

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:05 (six years ago) Permalink

a lot of the writing about this album concentrates on this "r&b concrete" angle as if "disembodied vocal samples" are somehow this new groundbreaking technique of modern electronic music production, when in actuality it is about the most cliched. hasn't Todd Edwards been "disembodying" rnb vocals since like, 1994?

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:09 (six years ago) Permalink

u do sound like a h8r and not a very interesting one

have heard first two of those and it's not a close relaish

i wouldn't make claims for splazsh being hugely innovative

u misunderstood a ref to another hyped south london producah who might get called 'r&b concrete' ;_;

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:14 (six years ago) Permalink

how many tracks on this have "disembodied vocal samples" and how do u discern between those and common or garden vocal samples

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:15 (six years ago) Permalink

no need to get defensive, though if it helps boost your ILX status by all means. next step "sock master" amirite?

if anything i'm just trying to work out why this leaves me cold when I love so much of the stuff it cribs from. I guess you missed the part where I praised the sound design and mentioned that I like the track "Hubble" a lot, while touching on his excellent dj skills?

and if you can't hear Hieroglpyhic Being in something like say "Bubble Buts And Equations" then I don't believe you've heard Hieroglyphic Being

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:22 (six years ago) Permalink

havent we already had this convo about james blake, or is this diff somehow

lyrics is weak ... like clock radio similes (deej), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:26 (six years ago) Permalink

^^

BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:31 (six years ago) Permalink

missing u know yr shit and have good taste but 'I can see how people who haven't heard Steve Poindexter and Musique Records and Hieroglyphic Being might find it groundbreaking' is the sort of pass/agg trainspotter drivel that's not rly conducive to good ilx

u will know i have not heard 'Hieroglyphic Being' cuz he is third in yr list and i 'have heard first two of those '

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:33 (six years ago) Permalink

idk about james blake, don't rly care/rate/etc him

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:33 (six years ago) Permalink

there's some talk of actress in one of the rolling dance threads btw, moonship digs it iirc

zvookster, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:35 (six years ago) Permalink

no whiney weingarteno on this comment but really feel like most ppl that find this treatment of r&b interesting don't actually dig real r&b

this stuff is still pretty aight tho

BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:35 (six years ago) Permalink

don't rly care about r&b beyond the big singles yuh

i like music concrete tho

of course it doesn't sound a lot like the former, and the schematic owes little to the latter but yknow it kinda works as shorthand for what he's doing

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:38 (six years ago) Permalink

not sure i get the (any) connection to musique concrete. it sounds like pleasantly spacey/funky idm to me. connect the dots?

contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 06:44 (six years ago) Permalink

"u will know i have not heard 'Hieroglyphic Being' cuz he is third in yr list and i 'have heard first two of those '"

ok well my point still stands, if you can't hear the influence Steve Poindexter's label, Muzique Records, has had on Actress's album Splazsh then etcetc

sorry if it's "pas/agg trainspotter drivel" to actually know my shit about the subject at hand, but when you say something like "this fuckin BURIES the competition" you shouldn't be surprised that somebody else might say, well actually, there's other stuff out there that already sounds like this and does it better

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:02 (six years ago) Permalink

god yr slow

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:15 (six years ago) Permalink

god yr butthurt?

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:16 (six years ago) Permalink

i didn't come here to argue dude, I'll leave your thread be *waves*

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:17 (six years ago) Permalink

tsccchhhh

entrylevs

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:21 (six years ago) Permalink

oh ok, Burial reference, excellent. bravo old chap

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:21 (six years ago) Permalink

still, I'm not so slow as to realize that "rnb concrete" is fucking lame

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:23 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah its kinda a lame thread title trinket to get the spesh addled vagrants like yrself thru the door, all counts towards the admission stats tho

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:26 (six years ago) Permalink

my sympathies, nakhchivan, for post-launch events itt

contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:28 (six years ago) Permalink

ikr

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:30 (six years ago) Permalink

missing no just needs to chill a lil, i don't wanna scare off ppl who know more about techno than me

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:30 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah apols for missing your pun. keep the ad homs coming though, you'll be reposted in zing thread in no time

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 07:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Apparently Actress samples Youtube in his beats, tons of tightly edited low bitrate samples stacked layer upon layer.

It definitely seems like a reasonable comparison to the original Musique Concrete guys.

And I'm a big Hieroglyphic Being fan and don't feel that Actress is at all a bad comparison.

With Jamal its huge amounts material to dig through, with Actress: 2 minute long tracks.

Maybe the argument should be between brevity and long-windedness?

sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:01 (six years ago) Permalink

hmmm i don't really dig jamal moss very much and i don't think it's a great comparison unless you fixate on certain aspects of actress and the much better end of jamal moss.

the r&b-ish parts ("purple splazsh", "wrong potion") are the bits i like least. love love love the pleasantly spacy/funky IDM parts ("hubble", "bubble butts", "the kettle men"). i loathe the todd edwards influenced parts.

it didn't make my top 10, but it would've made #11 and if i made a list just on amount of time spent listening this would've been in the top 10.

i have hazyville but haven't really given it a listen ... what about his nonplus release? that was sick.

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:03 (six years ago) Permalink

^^ sounds more like urban tribe to me than burial or todd e

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:04 (six years ago) Permalink

srsly off topic but jamal moss is 75% wack

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:08 (six years ago) Permalink

as is being detroit/chicago nerd, as anyone who witnessed moonship: the early years will certainly attest to

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:09 (six years ago) Permalink

:)

if i did, i would

Rockcrit from the Tuoms (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:12 (six years ago) Permalink

Apparently Actress samples Youtube in his beats, tons of tightly edited low bitrate samples stacked layer upon layer.

It definitely seems like a reasonable comparison to the original Musique Concrete guys.

is this so? have heard this said of other producers, but not of cunningham. which may be to say, "i haven't done the research," but what's (not) done is done. and yeah, if true, that working process does make sense of the phrase/thread title. plus helps explain the pleasant fuzziness of the sound.

contenderizer, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:13 (six years ago) Permalink

sounds pleasant but it's a little too clever isn't it, calling albums "hazyville" and stuff to bait the hauntology crew?

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:17 (six years ago) Permalink

i just think he's best when he keeps it light, straightforward and beat oriented

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:19 (six years ago) Permalink

I need to dig the album out again and give it another listen, shifted so much stuff around in my room I've got no idea where it is.

This is one of the few albums this year I felt compelled to own on vinyl.

sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:30 (six years ago) Permalink

And yeah, Jamal does have that Sun Ra quality control thing going on. When he's on he's definitely on.

Whereas all the Actress stuff I've heard was at least worth listening to more than once.

Hazyville included, some great shit on there.

sistern, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 08:32 (six years ago) Permalink

i read the Youtube thing as well and it definitely goes to explain the graininess and warmth of the album -- kinda like an extreme update of the vintage sampler aliasing you hear on classic NY boom bap stuff

the Hieroglyphic Being/Muzique comparisons I only make with reference to Splazsh. it's that slightly unhinged, unpredictable approach to drum programming, wildly unquantized percussion patterns on top of straight 4x4 kicks, crunchy bass drums and hi hats that sizzle, and insanely unfathomable synth lines. he def has a more refined sense of melody and song structure that is his own, overall the album strikes me as an IDM dude's take on the abstract US house sound that's been popular over the past couple of years or so, that just so happens to fit in with the current chillwave/hypnagogic zeitgeist. despite not being crazy on the album, it's at least an interesting direction

basically though, I wanna hear more things like "Hubble" or "Paint, Straw and Bubbles", and less like "Senorita" or "Purple Splazsh"

missingNO, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 11:57 (six years ago) Permalink

it's so appropriate that it's on ninja tune. so trip hop.

the late great, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 07:14 (three years ago) Permalink

struggled with this yesterday, second time around was much better. Rap is the standout for me, anyone recognise the sample?

cheeseburger, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 11:42 (three years ago) Permalink

gonna guess it's 'wrap yourself around me' by david grant

r|t|c, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 12:23 (three years ago) Permalink

http://www.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF459907-01-01-03.mp3

yeah

r|t|c, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 12:24 (three years ago) Permalink

n1

cheeseburger, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 14:37 (three years ago) Permalink

i agree with paolo. a lot of this album actually *isn't* that dark - it's the sound of a dude playing around with beats and funny noises.

the late great, Wednesday, 29 January 2014 15:42 (three years ago) Permalink

i don't think i'm ever going to "get" this dude's music. nothing happens! what are you supposed to DO to it.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 12:15 (three years ago) Permalink

listen

sisilafami, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 12:17 (three years ago) Permalink

xpost, as I mentioned upthread, I found the best time to appreciate Actress is when I'm in a slumber state.

doglato dozzy (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 12:35 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah. it's music for cold winter nights. hypnotic, eerie, menacing, a little seedy.

actress sounds great in the middle of a playlist of artists working in a similar vein, e.g., burial; shackleton and appleblim (skull disco); various prod.; the livity sound roster of artists; the bug.

Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 13:21 (three years ago) Permalink

shackleton got some vibey feelings on some of the records dunno about the others

cog, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 13:32 (three years ago) Permalink

Kind of like that RA went out on a limb and gave this 2.5.

I feel asleep listening to it on a bus a few weeks, and still haven't consciously made my whole way through it. I found it a bit of a trial, but did not dislike what I heard.

Actress live, on the other hand, was one of the best shows I've seen in recent years.

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 13:49 (three years ago) Permalink

A few weeks back, that is... although that bus trip did seem to last forever!

MikoMcha, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 13:51 (three years ago) Permalink

actress sounds great in the middle of a playlist of artists working in a similar vein, e.g., burial; shackleton and appleblim (skull disco); various prod.; the livity sound roster of artists; the bug.

Yes - it lends itself well to mixes etc where you want to find a good segue between two ends of a spectrum.

doglato dozzy (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 14:42 (three years ago) Permalink

the first track on this goes on a while without doing much but I find it strangely compelling

might be its resemblance to the Chrono Trigger 2300 AD world map theme triggering subliminal positive associations

a chance to cross is a chance to score (anonanon), Wednesday, 12 February 2014 23:05 (three years ago) Permalink

i had that same thought! that echoing bell.

clouds, Wednesday, 12 February 2014 23:56 (three years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

he mentioned that he's released music without the actress handle and it appears that stuff is out under the name levantis. should definitely check out the 12" that's out. great stuff. just like ghettoville but more beat oriented. he mentioned in some other interview that there was an earlier version of ghettoville that was a lot more techno influenced and it seems like some of those tracks could be these.

illegalblues, Friday, 28 February 2014 18:34 (three years ago) Permalink

love this tune

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illegalblues, Friday, 28 February 2014 18:36 (three years ago) Permalink

ahhh how the hell you edit a post, now i look like a grandma

illegalblues, Friday, 28 February 2014 18:38 (three years ago) Permalink

I love how interactive ghettoville is, it practically begs you to fuck with the bpms. Also the shitty packaging ensures each person's copy will have a signature of minor damage.

brimstead, Friday, 28 February 2014 19:00 (three years ago) Permalink

i picked it up on vinyl and i swear most of the songs sound like they were originally conceived for 45' tempo

illegalblues, Friday, 28 February 2014 20:00 (three years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

https://ninjatune.net/release/actress/xoul-ep

brimstead, Thursday, 24 July 2014 00:15 (two years ago) Permalink

Out of stock already :/

paolo, Thursday, 24 July 2014 10:48 (two years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

dj kicks is a ***** masterpiece

the late great, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 05:11 (one year ago) Permalink

How well does it flow? Heard some of the transitions were a bit on the jarring side.

millmeister, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 10:11 (one year ago) Permalink

Given that 'Pen Expers' is on there I can't see how it could be anything but.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 11:46 (one year ago) Permalink

smitten with this. outside of spotify irregularly making a hash of track transitions it flows v well

ogmor, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 11:48 (one year ago) Permalink

pen expers arriving is amazing, just listen to it ffs

ogmor, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 11:49 (one year ago) Permalink

can't wait to hear this.

p:s nerds know (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 11:58 (one year ago) Permalink

After a quick listen this morning, there's not a lot of mixing going on, the transitions are quick but mainly OK. Obviously, it's mainly about the selection of tracks.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 12:28 (one year ago) Permalink

(I am quite a fan of jarring transitions btw)

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 13:06 (one year ago) Permalink

pen expers arriving is amazing

It really is! The mix itself is great throughout but sort of... shapeless? Just when you think it's going somewhere it decides to wander off and see what's in another direction entirely.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:29 (one year ago) Permalink

i only felt it was jarring the first couple of times i listened through, when i was listening for beat matching and finding none. after a few listens it really opened up for me. i feel like he is really pushing the envelope as far as matching up moods and vibes in tracks. almost every mix makes perfect sense to me now, and i'm amazed at the connections he makes between tracks.

the late great, Thursday, 14 May 2015 08:10 (one year ago) Permalink

that's what he's best at though, is my thought on him - finding diagonal connections in music, that is.

p:s nerds know (dog latin), Thursday, 14 May 2015 09:25 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah it does feel like a consistent progression in terms of mood, if not in momentum.

Matt DC, Thursday, 14 May 2015 09:29 (one year ago) Permalink

this is very fine work

nakhchivan, Saturday, 16 May 2015 10:17 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

thread title has put me off listening to actress until now.... but i really like this!

i don't think it's shapeless at all! most mixes i will stick on and zone out which is often exactly what i want. but the way this mix evolves suddenly and kinda strangely really keeps my attention focussed. i've found it great for running to.

tpp, Tuesday, 4 August 2015 19:35 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

dude's music is just as enervating and like listening to paint dry when he calls himself levantis as when he calls himself actress

lex pretend, Monday, 16 November 2015 17:57 (one year ago) Permalink

did you just fart?

brimstead, Monday, 16 November 2015 21:53 (one year ago) Permalink

one of the worst all time thread titles

J0rdan S., Monday, 16 November 2015 21:57 (one year ago) Permalink

Actress is a totally amazing recording moniker though.

Whoremonger (jed_), Monday, 16 November 2015 21:59 (one year ago) Permalink

how should actress make his music less enervating? throw some donks on it?

brimstead, Monday, 16 November 2015 22:06 (one year ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...

Actress is opening for Animal Collective on the current leg of their U.S. tour, stoked to see them both soon

flappy bird, Thursday, 3 November 2016 02:47 (four months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

the late great, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 04:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

"Look, I don't care, you've got to be in the video."

0 / 0 (lukas), Wednesday, 15 March 2017 05:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i knew their "retirement" wasn't gonna last

clouds, Wednesday, 15 March 2017 12:42 (two weeks ago) Permalink

So is it pretty much confirmed that those one-off cassingles on Ninja Tune lately have been Actress? THAT KNIGHTSBRIDGE OG, DIAL 666 8100, and BANK OF ENGLAND?

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Saturday, 18 March 2017 01:21 (one week ago) Permalink

say what?

the late great, Saturday, 18 March 2017 02:21 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, there's been a series of single-track cassette releases on Ninja Tune over the last couple weeks that have had people playing Spot the Anonymous Producer. The all-caps phrases are the artist names they were released under; the tracks are, respectively, "ZENO'S PARADOX," "UBER SPLIFF TO GATWICK" and "CHAOS RAIN"

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Saturday, 18 March 2017 16:17 (one week ago) Permalink

haha sounds dope

the late great, Saturday, 18 March 2017 18:24 (one week ago) Permalink


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