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Hi, I've only got Harvest....so basically I'm looking for recommendations!!

― james e l, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Search: Tonight's the Night. The only Neil Young album I can love. There's something so dark and tragic yet playful in it. And you can shout along with it brilliantly. Those songs on Harvest with the orchestra. Destroy: the rest. Whining bastard, guitar playing below par (solo on 'Cortez the Killer' is one of the most overrated solos in rockhistory), shite concerts with acoustic guitar & harmonica plus the dreaded reverence by old-fart rock-crits (yeah he's a dud!)

― Omar, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Search: AFTER THE GOLDRUSH, WELD, half of DECADE.

Destroy: the other half of DECADE.

― AP, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

My recommendation is that you spend your money on something else, James ;).

― Dr. C, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

SEARCH: The Buffalo Springfield stuff, almost everything 1969-1980. DESTROY: 'Neil Young'. I might say search or destroy some more except I've only heard one or two albums post-1980. Still not sure why.

― Ally C, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

This board continually surprises me (guess that's why I'm here.) I was worried Elvis would get a right old slagging, but no, on the whole all v. respectful, whereas I thought pretty much everybody liked at least one alb by N. Young and would be rushing in to sing his praises, esp. as his vocal style has inspired loads of other whining indie boys (Mascis, Malkmus, Mercury Rev, etc.) But how wrong I was! Anyway, James, if you like 'Harvest' you'll probably dig the following just as much: Search: 'On the Beach', 'Tonight's the Night', 'Zuma', 'After the Gold Rush', 'Rust Never Sleeps', 'Decade' (one of the best 'Greatest Hits' sets ever released, imho.) Destroy: Anything with a 'tribute' to K. Cobain on it; CSNY.

― Andrew, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Search : Freedom (his least sloppy-sounding record ever)

Destroy : Time Fades Away, plus loads of records that I have no intention of buying to make sure they stink more.

Better than you'd think : Re-ac-tor, Trans.

― Patrick, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Search: Ragged Glory, Freedom, most of the early years Destroy: Everybody's Rockin', Mirrorball, Arc Undecided: Trans

― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

SEARCH: "Tonight's the Night" is one of the most gloriously, strangely f***ed up records I've ever heard. He just sounds like his hanging on the edge of complete mental collapse. But oddly indifferent to it. Most of his early solo albums have a similar kind of catastrophic feel to them. I think he's great for bad hangovers.

DESTROY: A lot of his later stuff probably. "Arc Weld" sounded like a self-indulgent rockfest to me, however much John Peel adored it.

― Johnathan, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

neil young, like my sundry aunts and uncles, is someone i could live without but it's nice having him around anyway.

search: everyone knows this is nowhere, after the gold rush

i probably dunno enough about neil to suggest what to destroy without being crass and just saying "everything." though, hey, how about destroying that grunge thing?

― fred solinger, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Pre-2000: Destroy everything the man every recorded.
Now I am one of the obsessed fans that likes just about everything. So of course, I have to say "Search everything.".

― Stevie Nixed, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Search: like everyone sez, Everyone Knows This Is... and After The Gold Rush and Zuma. Destroy: Buffalo Springfield, J. Mascis

― Sterling Clover, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Search: After The Gold Rush, Live Rust (one of the greatest live albums ever made), Live Horse (see previous comment) and, strangely the newer one Silver and Gold.

Destroy: Sleeps with Angels, and most of the CSN&Y wank, except Our House of course ;)

― achilles_last_stand, Sunday, 13 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Search: Rust Never Sleeps/Decade/Ragged Glory/On the Beach/Hawks & Doves

Destroy: his 80s stuff/Harvest

Would he be better if he didn't sing like a constipated eunuch? Or is that part of the charm?

― Scott, Monday, 14 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

YESSSS!!! Someone else is a Trans fan! The best thing he did in the Eighties IMHO. (I think Freedom is a "destroy" -- aged badly, sounds too much like a Big Eighties dinosaur-rockstar album for my tastes).

If you like Harvest, you might also want to check out Comes a Time, which is also country- and folk-flavored. Kinda gets lost because it was released in between Zuma and Rust Never Sleeps, but it's pretty good & a genuine sleeper.

― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Thursday, 17 May 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

Woah! Someone here said they **like** Trans! I really did think I was the only person who was able to get past how different it is from the folky-rocky stuff Neil Young usually does--which is also nice, but in a bit too much of a 60's style for me. I only owned the album on tape--which got trashed, so for the past 10 years I've only been able to play Sample and Hold in my mind.

― Helen Nelander, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I originally posted "undecided" on Trans, but I think I'm changing my vote to SEARCH, if only for the sheer balls of it, and the fact that I have very fond memories of "Computer Age". The legend has it that his strange computerized singing in there, and the general incomprehensibility of it was his attempt to mirror the communications problems he had with his disabled son, which really does make the whole thing a lot cooler from the conceptual point of view in addition to already sounding pretty avant garde for someone better known for crunchy power chords over folk-influenced numbers. I think I may actually go and get that album now.

― Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

Trans is indeed a very worthy artifact of a record. The songs on it are really pretty good - and they're written like standard Neil songs (silly rhymes, simple chord progressions, same time signatures, etc.) - it's just that they're filtered through this totally bizarre-o voicebox/synth framework that makes them much stranger and otherworldly than they would otherwise be. And yes, it is all about communicating with his son.

I've been on a big Neil kick lately, one which will probably reach it's apex when I manage to get my grubby paws on a copy of "On the Beach", one of the only Neil albums I haven't heard (the others being "Everybody's Rockin" and "Landing on Water").

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 23:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

The two best Neil Young albums are "Deja Vu" by CSNY and "Again" by Buffalo Springfield.

However, "After The Goldrush", "Harvest" and "Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere" are great. Out of his later material, "Harvest Moon" is the one sounding more like Young at his best than any of the others.
"On The Beach" is also great, but that one you will have to seek using Kazaa, as all searching for it in CD shops will be in vain.

Destroy: "Everybody's Rockin'", "This Note's For You" and the overrated "Tonight's The Night"

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 6 March 2003 00:01 (10 years ago) Permalink

"as all searching for it in CD shops will be in vain."

What's a "CD"? I've been using these flat black round things that make noise when you put a needle on them.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 March 2003 00:04 (10 years ago) Permalink

S: "After the Gold Rush"
"Zuma"
"Comes a Time"
"Trans"
A lotta people like "Time Fades Away," me, I'll take Big Star's "Third" ( I got to know it in its original PVC release my older bro had, so I'm not comfortable with these newfangled titles/track orders...).

I'm not really a fan. But those are all good albums, I mean I don't see how he ever much improved on "Cinnamon Girl," what an ace riff. As usual, I have to roundly disagree w/Geir: CSNY is an abomination unto the Lord. Buffalo S. is good.

― Jess Hill (jesshill), Thursday, 6 March 2003 00:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

I love Neil. So much to search: Rust Never Sleeps, Tonight's The Night, Times Fades Away, ReAcTor, Comes A Time, Ragged Glory, Freedom, there's at least one good song on every album, which is why I'm not gonna say destroy. Though I'll admit I haven't bought anything of his after Year Of The Horse and Broken Arrow (too much sludge for just one boy).

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 6 March 2003 00:15 (10 years ago) Permalink

What's a "CD"? I've been using these flat black round things that make noise when you put a needle on them.

In which case, you may find "On The Beach" in some used store, only it will costs you for sure. :-)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 6 March 2003 00:17 (10 years ago) Permalink

Btw. Managed to get to "collect" "On The Beach" using good old Audiogalaxy a couple years ago. All of the mp3s (apart from those copied and burned from my "Decade" CD) were obviously taken from vinyl (that you can hear), but it works.

Why isn't "On The Beach" available on high quality bootlegs like the stereo versions of the first Beatles albums are?

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 6 March 2003 00:21 (10 years ago) Permalink

oh, I know it's pricey. I saw it for $20 once and later kicked myself for not immediately snapping it up. Not sure why it hasn't been widely bootlegged, pretty much all of Neil's stuff is widely bootlegged in some form or another...

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 March 2003 00:22 (10 years ago) Permalink

all searching for it in CD shops will be in vain.

this is very not actually true. just like it seem geir likes to be. I found a CD! bootleg copy in atomic records in milwaukee and it wasn't too expensive. allyC has a proper looking [covers, disc printed on, etc.] copy from some german label.

I alternate between Tonight's the Night and On the Beach being my favourite--they are both incredible.

Rust Never Sleeps, too. Zuma in parts. Everybody Knows This is Nowhere is very good, also.

I have yet to pay enough attention to the buffalo springfield album allyC insisted I buy.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 6 March 2003 00:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

ugh, I think the Buffalo Springfield stuff is generally pretty awful. Crappy production, too many cooks in the kitchen + bad LA folk-rock (one of the worst scenes EVAH) - I don't know what anyone sees in their scanty recorded output.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 6 March 2003 01:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

"Expecting To Fly" remains the one and only best thing Neil Young has ever done, and he hasn't even come close to the quality of that gem later on.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 6 March 2003 01:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

Destroy: Everybody's Rockin, Reactor, Sleeps With Angels, Unplugged (Damm I hate that Organ), Harvest Moon, Mirror Ball, Stars and Bars, Hawks and Doves, Old Ways and Are You Passionate to start.
Search: Tonights The Night (worth all the praise)Zuma, Everybody Knows This Is NoWhere, Trans, Freedom, Ragged Glory, Decade, This Notes For You (for "This Notes For You"), Rust Never Sleeps, Time Fades Away, After The Goldrush and the DVDs Live in Berlin and Year of The Horse.

Honegro, will you please shut up. Your a parasite sucking the life out of any conversation.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 6 March 2003 01:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

haha, it's easy to ignore him. and laugh at him. look!:

the one and only best thing Neil Young has ever done

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 6 March 2003 02:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Its having to ignore him when he is 2 out of 3 posts on a thread and 1/3 of the threads in the new answers. its not like he is adding anything except spouting off about his war against rhythm.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 6 March 2003 02:20 (10 years ago) Permalink

I saw it for $20 once and later kicked myself for not immediately snapping it up.

I paid $7 Canadian for mine (the dollar was worth a little more then, but not much), and that was the most I ever saw it go for. The only "proper" album I've ever bought that has artwork on the interior of the jacket.

I'd like to throw in a good word for one of the sides of Hawks & Doves (the "Folk" side, not the awful "Country" side), cuz no one else will.

― Vic Funk, Thursday, 6 March 2003 03:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

I think that Zuma is probably my fave Neil Young album now.

― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 11 May 2003 17:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

search: 'broken arrow', 'mr. soul', and the other one from the BS lp (his best song ever); the vocodered re-take of 'mr. soul' on trans; on the beach (but destroy most writing thereon, johhny rogan please sit down); tonight's the night; the strings on the second side of everybody knows....

destroy: harvest (exc. 'a man needs a maid') and after the goldrush (exc. actually listening to it.)

― cºzen (Cozen), Sunday, 25 July 2004 08:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

d: THAT 1 ALBUM FROM TEH 80S THATS ALL FUCKE DTHE FUCK UP
S: LIEK TOTALLY EVERYTHING ELSE

has anyone ever notcied how much wany coyne sounds like teh neil jong?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Sunday, 25 July 2004 09:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

Search: Greendale the album (his best in years). Destroy: Greendale the movie. http://www.neilyoung.com/greendale_frames.html

― Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 25 July 2004 20:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

Search: Everything up to Zuma, which encompasses the first nine albums -- all brilliant. And just about everything from Freedom (1989) on up, save for two records (Are You Passionate? and Broken Arrow). Some of his very best songs appear late in the catalog, imho ("Rockin' in the Free World, "Crime in the City," "Over and Over Again," "Western Hero," "Driveby," "Downtown," "Let's Roll," "Carmichael") Also, Trans, by far Neil's most underrated work.

Destroy: Nothing. Though I wouldn't recommend stuff like Everybody's Rockin', Are You Passionate?, Old Ways and Long May You Run ... they stand as fascinating miscalculations.

― Chris O., Sunday, 25 July 2004 22:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

you could destroy most of Mirror Ball. It's not intriguingly awful and aside from "I'm The Ocean" (one of his finest, period) and some of the other fast ones its not that memorable. Shit like "Scenery" never needs to be heard again.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 July 2004 22:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

Mirror Ball marks one of Neil's missed opportunities. If only they'd have WORKED on the damn thing a little harder. "Scenery" is the only bona fide peace of crap on it. Rest of it is really solid and really profund. But the album as a whole is messy as hell. That's what happens when you spend a mere four days on your shit.

― Chris O., Sunday, 25 July 2004 22:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

Stuff like "I'm The Ocean" would have given Crazy Horse a coronary at that pace but Pearl Jam's rhythm section gets bored during stuff like "Scenery," which features Jeff Ament POPPING his bass.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 July 2004 22:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

also half of Harvest Moon bores me to tears

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 July 2004 22:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

the performance of "Like A Hurricane" in Year Of The Horse makes me wish Sonic Youth never existed

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 July 2004 22:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

hahaha it's like the dad screaming "I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU!" at the kid!

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 25 July 2004 22:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1K6LKDO6FMV6L2IELK3AZ28HAU

― Howard Dean, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 19:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

"Powderfinger" is the best song ever recorded. And the album it's from, Rust Never Sleeps doesn't really have low points.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 21:02 (7 years ago) Permalink

Scour whatever downloading services you "patronize" for a copy of the Eldorado EP. Five songs, Japanese-only, totally ass-rapingly great sludge guitar fest. Two of the songs ("Don't Cry" and "On Broadway") are on Freedom, but it's "Cocaine Eyes" that you really need.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 21:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

Anybody got a YSI for Trans that''ll tell me whether I need to listen to the rest of the album or not? I got trepidation with that one (and Arc/Weld).

― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 21:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

ass-rapingly great

hrm.

― my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 21:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

Really liking the new one.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 20 October 2005 01:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

In addition to On The Beach, Harvest, SOME of After The Goldrush, Rust Never Sleeps, Tonight's the Night, parts of Everybody Knows This is Nowhere, a couple others I'd search: Hawks and Doves, and "Bandit" from Greendale

― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 20 October 2005 01:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

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here's a comp i made of (mostly) lost songs from 1973-1980. mainly avoiding chrome dreams stuff. http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/11101846032/sad-movies-a-secret-history-of-neil-young
some incredible songs/performances. crazy that it's just scratching the surface of unreleased material from that period. bring on archives II!!!!

― tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

ooh!

yr a prince

― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thanks!

― Brad C., Thursday, 6 October 2011 15:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

thanks tyler! i added your blog to my reader at some point but then i stopped checking it, so i am always glad when you repost stuff.

― Art Arfons (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

cool. there's some key stuff on this comp, some of it more readily available than others, but all in all it's pretty solid. even all the CSNY 74 songs are great. at that point he could write a total throwaway like "hawaiian sunrise" and it would still turn out amazing.

― tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

man, I love "Heavy Love" and "Cocaine Eyes."

― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 October 2011 16:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

had no idea White Line was such an old song!

― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 October 2011 18:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, so many of those ragged glory tunes are old. here's the crazy horse version of white line from 75 or 76

― tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 18:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

holy shit this is awesome tyler

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 6 October 2011 18:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

basically at this point, i want neil to release a 10-disc archives for every year from 1973-1978. he could totally do it.

― tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 18:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think YOU should do it

― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 October 2011 18:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

i would if i had access to the tapes! who can give me access?!

― tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 19:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thanks for posting this! Can't wait to dig in.

crazy that it's just scratching the surface of unreleased material from that period. bring on archives II!!!!

I share your optimism, but we all know Neil well enough to know that "Archives II" ≠ "unreleased material."

― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 6 October 2011 19:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

hee hee, well, yeah, but this next volume really is going to have to include a lot of unreleased stuff. unless neil just hates us all.

― tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 19:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

i would if i had access to the tapes! who can give me access?!

heh... Neil moved his operation out of the studio my buddy was working at. to a studio around the corner from my house lol.

― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 October 2011 19:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh man this Home on the Range version

― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 October 2011 19:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

Do you think acts like Neil, Prince and the prolific like have it in their wills or whatever just what to do with what's in their vaults after they die?

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 October 2011 20:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'd bet yes with those particular examples

― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 October 2011 20:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Prince especially, since he doesn't have any children

― unorthodox economic revenge (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 October 2011 20:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

i mean, prince will definitely be buried with his master tapes.
don't know about neil, i'm sure there's a fairly elaborate plan for all of that.

― tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 20:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

Stevie Wonder has a clause in his contract that all unreleased material is to be destroyed when he dies.

(all of his unreleased material, that is)

― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Thursday, 6 October 2011 20:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

for real? crazy.

― tylerw, Thursday, 6 October 2011 20:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

A ton of Young's albums on his MySpace. Not every track on each album, but most are complete (I think). 125 tracks from Archives, 35 from Decades, and a lot of original albums, so some duplication, but not too much (plus studio vs live presentations of Greendale etc)

― dow, Thursday, 6 October 2011 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

okay that news about stevie is pretty depressing

― Joe Romeo, Concerned New Yorker (stevie), Friday, 7 October 2011 06:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

little (or big, i guess) addendum to that comp of unreleased tunes i made: http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=919
Road Of Plenty: The Unreleased Songs (1966-2010 & Live Rarities 1969-1984) [The Godfather Box, 6CD]
one or two things that i missed for my 70s comp -- "homefires" and "lady wingshot", though i think the recording quality on both is pretty dire. also some tunes that were written in the 70s but not performed until much later. "try" is particularly good, i think that's an outtake from "homegrown". they seem to have left out "pushed it over the end" which is a major miss!

― tylerw, Thursday, 27 October 2011 17:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

http://neilyoungnews.thrasherswheat.org/2012/01/massive-news-new-crazy-horseneil-young.html

― Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Sunday, 29 January 2012 15:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

I tried and tried to like him...never really clicked until I got Tonight's The Night. Still haven't found On The Beach on vinyl...

http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2012/10/24/neil-young-tonights-the-night-round-38-toms-selection/

A great, great record in my opinion.

― yugi ex, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:37 (6 months ago) Permalink

Waging Heavy Peace vs. Shakey vs. Harvest 33 1/3. Which do I read? Both? None (spend the money at the Jamba Juice instead)?

― ILX Lightwave Customer Support (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:32 (6 months ago) Permalink

shakey

― tylerw, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:33 (6 months ago) Permalink

Shakey

― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:33 (6 months ago) Permalink

sufjan didn't you say you live in santa barbara? why would you go to jamba juice

― iatee, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:34 (6 months ago) Permalink

Shakey!

― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:35 (6 months ago) Permalink

shakey

― but the boo boyz are getting to (Z S), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:37 (6 months ago) Permalink

neil does get in a dig against mcdonough in waging heavy peace -- something like "never hire some sweaty hack to write a book about you, he'll ask you questions for years and years."

― tylerw, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:39 (6 months ago) Permalink

Shakey is the perfect bathroom book.

― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:40 (6 months ago) Permalink

neil does get in a dig against mcdonough in waging heavy peace -- something like "never hire some sweaty hack to write a book about you, he'll ask you questions for years and years."

― tylerw, Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:39 PM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

tbh though even though mcdonough wrote the book, towards the mid-90s you get the vibe that he'd sort of become obsessed w/neil and was probably a borderline stalker

― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:41 (6 months ago) Permalink

I hate the nineties too but McDo's conservativeness makes him surly.

― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:43 (6 months ago) Permalink

the recent paul nelson bio/anthology talks about how he was hired to do a neil bio in the early 80s, but he couldn't deliver for various reasons. neil may have dodged a bullet -- if anything, Nelson was even more obsessive than mcdonough.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:44 (6 months ago) Permalink

I guess Neil has his reasons, but tbh Shakey probably did more to keep his legend alive in the 2000s than any of his new albums could achieve.

― 50 Shades of Greil (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:48 (6 months ago) Permalink

it certainly works as an extended advertisement for the archives series.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:53 (6 months ago) Permalink

Thanks, will go with Shakey first. iatee, I've never had a jamba juice. I just said jamba juice b/c we have one by the bookstore on campus. If I wanted a smoothie, I would go to Blenders In the Grass. My money is more likely to go to the Warbler, Salzer's, or Amoeba though honestly.

― ILX Lightwave Customer Support (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:54 (6 months ago) Permalink

you should never have a jamba juice ftr but yeah blenders rules is all I was trying to say

― iatee, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 22:00 (6 months ago) Permalink

i think shakey is pretty fantastic up through the early 80s

― seasonal hugs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 22:01 (6 months ago) Permalink

i kind of hope that someday there'll be a complete transcript of all those mcdonough/neil interviews that are interspersed throughout the book. pretty hilarious stuff.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 22:03 (6 months ago) Permalink

There's link on one of the other Neil threads to an interview w/McDonough wherein he mentions a scrapped plan to put out a different edit of the book every couple years--a Springfield version, CSNY, Crazy Horse, TransBand etc.

― 50 Shades of Greil (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 22:28 (6 months ago) Permalink

Shakey is the perfect bathroom book.

Shakey is the perfect rock biog.

― "pulling a Jaz" (stevie), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 22:42 (6 months ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

Neil made a record @ Jack White's...will be released on Archives V, due in 3045.

― Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 19:05 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

So you put $0.35 in and animatronic Neil Young comes out of the booth and hands you a fortune from inside his guitar?

― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 19:19 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

lmao, that was my precise thought LL

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 19:31 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

imagine a neil young instrumental record - just a single pair of bongos

― your holiness, we have an official energy drink (Z S), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 21:29 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

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