Pere Ubu: Classic Or Dud

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Pere Ubu popped up in the multiple CoD thread and I thought they were well worthy of one of their own. So here it is.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"The Modern Dance" is essential. The following albums ("Dub Housing" etc) are good, but I can live without them. The later period isn't bad, but somehow just not very interesting either.

Dr. C, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I agree that the late period stuff (Worlds in Collision, Ray Gun Suitcase etc), while pleasant enough, isn't anything to get excited about. But I'd make an exception for last year's release Apocalypse Now, a great live show which I think was recorded a decade or so back. Some funny stage banter from the ineffable David Thomas, a couple of punk surprises, and a beautiful version of 'We Have the Technology' alone make it a worthwhile purchase.

scott bassett, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Mike Daddino will have his own thoughts on the matter (and good ones they are), but I'll agree with him that I have a lot more time these days for the early singles than I do for the entire back catalogue of the Stones.

"DON'T need a cure/DON'T need a cure!"

I had the surprise opportunity to run into David Thomas and I think Ravenstine at the station I was at in 1991. I asked him about the Living Colour and Peter Murphy covers of "Final Solution" -- said he hadn't heard the LC one, but that Mr. M 'got rid of the solo' but otherwise did a good job.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Pere Ubu is one of those bands that I've wanted to like for quite a long time, but I can't really get past Thomas' voice. I know that it will click in with me at some point, because I definitely like some of the songs quite a lot, esp. "Final Solution" (yawn, how predictable). For now, it's in an undecided zone.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The first three albums plus the singles and the associated live stuff from that period: Absolutely unbelievably classic. I think _New Picnic Time_ is one of the most underrated and affecting albums I've heard, and I've listened to the other stuff on the first two discs of the box set probably more than anything else overall in the last four years or so...

After those: Spotty. Some excellent stuff, though, in among the only okay stuff, and David Thomas hooking up with the very, very creative Spaceheads (Two Pale Boys) is a brilliant move, I think.

Jacob Anderson, Wednesday, 2 May 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I've got Dub Housing - i like it lots. The guy's voice is one of the most comically incredible i've ever heard in pop but for some reason i got over it. I actually bought the album for £1 without a case thinking it was Dub Reggae... Boy was i wrong, but then it turned out to be excellent anyway :-)

dog latin, Thursday, 3 May 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

he sings like a cross between David Byrne and Tiny Tim.

scott, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
Classic.

Ubu are at their best recording "avant-garage" (late early period) than "pop/rock songs" (mid late period). That was a bit confusing. Let's just say 'New Picnic Time-Song Of The Baling Man' = "avant-garage". While 'The Modern Dance' or (mid late period) 'Story Of My Life' = "pop/rock songs". Yes, even 'The Modern Dance' plays to this weakness for song form, where Ubu are clearly best without song form = the point.

However, David Thomas (singer/leader) is as good (if not slightly better - let's just say different than Ubu, but in a good equal way) solo than as Pere Ubu. With his box set 'Monster' as proof.

But, certainly if one wants truly "classic" and truly interesting art-rock or art-punk...look no further. Some might go with Wire or The Fall. I'll take Pere Ubu, anytime.

*Also, Pere Ubu are one of the greatest live rock bands ever (yes, ever)...I've seen them twice - in support of 'Story of My Life' opening for They Might Be Giants (sort of like Public Enemy and how they used to open for the Beastie Boys) and again at a smaller club as headliner in support of 'Raygun Suitcase'. Both times, great. Second time, incredible. David Thomas is a natural on stage (oddly enough - in that, one could see him as some sort of "anti-social" if they didn't know better, with some of the lyrics and mumbling voice, etc).

michael g. breece, Sunday, 1 July 2001 00:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

five months pass...
boy this one died a fast death, didn't it? come on, i know -some- of you haf an opinion on ubu...mark s? tom? andrew? andy? dave? ANYONE??

my take: two classic albums, followed by a string of spotty-to- terrible ones, lost (to paraphrase i think mark) up their own arse of determined non-repetition. the singles collected on terminal tower, however, are a handful of the most towering documents in the history of this rock music thing. made all the more powerful by the fact that they were scrawled in black magic marker by wights from collapsing ohio factory backwaters.

jess, Thursday, 27 December 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Seems to be a consensus that everything after The Modern Dance was spotty. I might agree with that - although I think there were some absolutely great moments on all of the later LPs. The Art of Walking - I believe it's "Misery Goats" I'm thinking of... (Can anyone fill me in on the that reference.. "Misery Goats" is an homage to something that I recognized a few months back... now I forget what it means...) and "I Will Wait" from Dub Housing, if I remember correctly, is one of Ubu's finest moments.

When I heard the Wooden Birds' last album (name escapes me..) I thought, Wow! That sounds a lot like typical Ubu... (Ref. "A Fact About Trains") I wonder if they'll change back into Ubu.... Sure enough, they did. But I must admit, I wasn't blown away when The Tenemement Year came out. I thought it was too "Rock & Roll". Cloudland was even more so... Great albums in their own right & kicking U2 and REM's asses at the time... so no reason to slouch. I'll take "Why Go It Alone" over "Stand" any time.

But it wasn't until Ray Gun Suitcase came out that I thought they had returned to what makes/made Ubu great - which was a heavy bassline behind some erratic guitar and some ranting (which is the same reason I like Saccharine Trust.)

I've seen Ubu many times over the years, starting with the warm-up tour for The Tenement Year. (The new songs were much better live than they were when the record was released.) - and I think Scott Krauss, Tony Maimone, Alan Ravenstein & Jim Jones (as a very suitable stand-in for Peter Laughner) brought amazing energy to the group - BUT, the last time I saw Ubu was about 2 years ago... the only member remaining was David Thomas .. The show was incredible. They played hard, they beat the shit out of their back catalogue. The only turn-off was that David Thomas seems to have developed into a bit of a dictator & a perfectionist - which is his perogative because it's now his band... but there's something to be said for the DIY sound... and that's why we love the Fall.

Dave225, Thursday, 27 December 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

FYI - That Wooden Birds LP was "Blame the Messenger". Highly recommended.

Dave225, Thursday, 27 December 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Jess lists me last, and expects me to comment? You have SOME BALLS, boyo.

I owned thee boxset a while back, & sold it, of course, duh. The music was fine, but the cram-happy aesthetic ruined everything past Disc 2. (And I never gave the Ubu-related music much of a spin, and including live Ubu did nothing for me.) That said, I agree w/ Jess on Modern Dance & Terminal Tower. Rock & roll drunk on the couch with Pretentious Art, making out and drooling all over the place. Pass the funnel, woo!

Dub Housing might be a grower, though I can't recall it well because of the CRAP SEQUENCING on the boxset CDs, damn it. I have a tape copy of Cloudland, which sounds just fine (if a bit happy-go-lucky, which I don't expect from DT, despite his kiddie-clown voice). The newer stuff (on Tim Kerr & Thirsty Ear) scares me because of all the conflicting comments.

And what's this I hear about the 5-disc David Thomas boxset being unbelievably awesome? Is this the truth?

David Raposa, Thursday, 27 December 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

New Picnic Time = terrific; a concept alb about life in heaven

mark s, Thursday, 27 December 2001 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
I listened to The Wooden Birds' "Blame The Messenger" yesterday. (This was the record that reunited Ubu - 1986? ) Absolutely brilliant, more so than I remembered. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking it up. It's better than most Ubu records and almost as good as some of the best Ubu records.

Dave225, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...
I haff rethink. Have recently repurchased Tenement Year, Cloudland, Worlds in Collision and Story of My Life, and am enjoying them all now. Will probably go back to the earliest stiff, too, which I never really gave fair shakes to...Always loved "Final Solution" but have discovered the glories of "30 Seconds Over Tokyo" and "The Modern Dance".

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Saturday, 24 August 2002 20:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

the earliest stiff is "the art of walking" haha (actually i wuv every note they ever played)

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 24 August 2002 21:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

first four albums and the attending singles from their first period = classic.

The Tenemant Years is good but not classic.

Cloudland is half classic (the last Paul Harman engineered half), and half crap (the Stephen Hague produced first half).

Worlds In Collision and Story Of My Life are not so hot all -- especially Eric Drew Feldman on synth -- his cartoony work is terrible to these ears -- completely lacking Ravenstine's touch or Wheeler in the later period. Completely POP in a cut out all the good parts way. (also, I don't think Cutler was a good fit with the band either).

Raygun Suitcase through St. Arkansas are a return to form, the resurrection of a band that almost sank during the Eric Drew Feldman period. Especially great is the return of Tom Herman. Also to be noted is the underrated playing of Jim Jones, a man who has done many excellent things but hasn't got the kudos he deserves.

jack cole (jackcole), Saturday, 24 August 2002 22:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

If you're going to harp on my typo, mister s, I want sales figures outta you. ;)

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Saturday, 24 August 2002 23:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Classic, of course. Another one in a long list of bands that I saw in the '70s and insist on mentioning on ILM in the vain hope that people will worship me, while knowing that the info really translates in people's heads into "he's really old".

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 August 2002 08:20 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Only have a modern dance. Love it of course but nevah got round to anything myself. Nice to know sean is enjoying a lot of their other stuff as when I met him he was just buying some of those recs.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 August 2002 09:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Just wondering how you pronouce the name.

I've never been too sure whether it's 'peh-ray ooboo' or 'pear ooboo' or possibly even another way, any helpers?

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Sunday, 25 August 2002 12:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

pear (it is dad punk haha)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

isn't "misery .. " just the unlucky masonic goats, the "misery guts" of the circus bleating like kids from the harem ?

yeah picnic, walking where were i got dropped right in it, so dub was a bit too much popping dub and the guitar records too much guitar records like sonic youth

the late period stuff, well it's more measured austere and yet part of the continuum of not over till after the fat man's stopped singing that is pere ubu

these guys are carrying the torch for wacky alfred jarry and people complain about silly ok != surreal or sensible but maybe absurdist -- yet absurdism points fingers, reminds us we are the bourguiese (is that correct spelling ? just couldn't resist)

my gripe would be how easy to map to real world via absurdism (which in jarry's case mapped so well) is peter thomas ? anything to say ? (great effects dept.)

all credit to them though for being first to the millenium bug though via "Data Panic in the Year ..", so ahead of their time as much now as then someways -- do not C/D until, y'know, uh, loses some weight ??

george gosset (gegoss), Sunday, 25 August 2002 13:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Those early singles are my favorite Pere Ubu music. After the first two LPs, there music is just too much all over the place for me, except for "The Tenement Year" which is a pretty good record and seems to be a return to the sound of those earlier recordings.

"The Tenement Year" may be a bit harder to find, as I do not think it was ever reissued. I've had a vinyl for a long time and got it before I found the first two LPs and the reissue of the early singles.


earlnash, Sunday, 25 August 2002 19:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I found The Tenement Year on CD in one of my regular used shops, for relatively cheap...weird, because I thought they'd have realized how rare it was. At any rate, I now have a copy of that on vinyl that is up for grabs, if anyone wants it...email me.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Sunday, 25 August 2002 22:14 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...
After giving all of the early Pere Ubu records a couple of listens over the past few weeks, I find that I think they really didn't drop off as much as I used to think. "Songs of the Bailing Man", "The Art of Walking" and "New Picnic Time" are maybe a notch below "Dub Housing", but not much more.

I think listening to quite a bit of electronic music in the past three or four years has changed my perspective of some of the more abstract/ambient/free form sounding songs.

I've never heard anything after "Pennsylvania" or the "St. Arkansas" albums, are they any count?

earlnash, Monday, 28 July 2003 18:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Was just driven around in a red convertable by a punk girl blasting (I think) The Tenement Year. Shit cool.

Pete Scholtes, Monday, 28 July 2003 20:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Classic, obviously - stupid question.

So is all Mr Thomas's solo / other stuff, especially Blame The Messenger, Mirror Man and the live CD with the "Monster" boxset.

"I've never heard anything after "Pennsylvania" or the "St. Arkansas" albums, are they any count?"

I don't believe you've missed any official releases since St Arkansas Earlnash, although there were a couple of live albums in between them: Apocalypse Now (which, as others have said above, is an excellent album) and The Shape Of Things (semi-official, dodgy 1976 live recordings, for completists only).

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 07:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

got the 'terminal tower' singles comp since then. wonderful though i'm not sure what that live version of 'Humor me' is doing there. a bit unecessary.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 07:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I believe I'm right in saying that the last few tracks on that CD were mopping up some oddments that would otherwise have been unavailable on CD because they had to missed off the Datapanik In The Year Zero box-set due to restrictions of CD length etc.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 07:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

... I think that's incorect - Terminal Tower was released 10 years prior to the Datapanik box. Seems more like it was just a release of a bunch of stuff they could get their hands on at the time. (Being Twin Tone & all.) While it's a great listen, it doesn't seem to have much of a reason to exist - other than there was no Pere Ubu record in print at the time. And Not Happy is cut short.

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 10:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

well if you don't have the boxset its useful collection of the early singles. suerly that's a good enough reason for it to exist.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 10:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

.. Yeah - well, I have it and yeah, I recommend buying it.. But I mean, it's a bit of a hodgepodge .. some of it is the Datapanik EP, some of it is singles, some of it is rarities. It's not a collection of all the singles. It's not a rerelease of Datapanik. It's not really a collection of rarities. It's just "stuff". Again, probably the only stuff Twin Tone could get their hands on in 1985. Buy "no reason to exist" I meant from an Artist or record company perspective... As a fan, I was damn excited to have it and quite glad it existed.

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 10:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

If you don't have the boxset the (final) solution is obvious....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 10:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

so what are they missing bcz this is a collection of singles up to 1980. is there another comp i could get hold of that has what's missing?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 10:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I think the only single that isn't there is Street Waves.. And I don't even know if it's different from the one on The Modern Dance. But the version of Not Happy cuts out a big section in the middle. .. So it's not a huge loss - it's just not a totally complete compilation of the singles. ..

Actually, I just checked the Ubu web site & found this:
The left & right channels are reversed and the tape transfer left all songs running at a slower speed. All Rough Trade / Twin Tone cd & vinyl releases are affected. These faults were corrected by the 1994 digital transfer & eq. The 1998 cd reissue features the Mayo Thompson / Geoff Travis mixes of "Not Happy" and "Lonesome Cowboy Dave" as released on the 1981 Rough Trade single. The 1985 Twin Tone / Rough Trade releases use the David Thomas mixes done at Suma.

.. So I guess the CD is better than the LP.

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 11:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I suppose I could use an editor, what I meant to say was:

I've never heard anything after "Raygun Suitcase" are the "Pennsylvania" or the "St. Arkansas" albums any count?

At least from the reviews, it seems if you like Pere Ubu, the last two albums will be to your liking. They are on my list and I probably will look for them when I go up to Bloomington/Indianapolis at the end of August.

earlnash, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:32 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...
I'm surprised to see no consensus here that Dub Housing is by far their peak. It was dark, eerie, powerful, experimental but still totally engaging. Quite a feat for an album with an obsessive focus on paranoia and mental instability. I have to admire their determination with New Picnic Time to avoid repeating themselves, but it seems they tried too hard, and it comes off forced and awkward.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Thursday, 8 September 2005 03:23 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Man, this made me dig out Dub Housing. It's one of those woozy albums that I think you either like or don't. I remember when I first heard it, it wasn't like anything else I'd ever heard...
Of course, I grew up listening to Waiting For Mary on an old Certain Damage sampler, so maybe I was predisposed...

js (honestengine), Thursday, 8 September 2005 04:28 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Love the Datapanik box, but is buying anything else neccessary?

Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 8 September 2005 04:51 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Consensus? ILM? Uh.. why aren't there a ton of threads on this band?

Dub Housing is so classic. Total paranoid schizo vibe. I suppose buying more albums of theirs isn't strictly necessary but surely if you like the box set you'd like others?

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 8 September 2005 05:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Last time I tried to listen to Dub Housing, I just thought the songs weren't really there. I like early Pere Ubu, especially the singles.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 8 September 2005 05:32 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I'm off to see them on Saturday, wonder how they'll be. Don't have great expectations, but hoping they're going to catch me by surprise. No idea who's in the band now. Chris Cutler perhaps?

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 8 September 2005 07:15 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Cloudland must be reissued/remastered. Now.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 8 September 2005 10:24 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I preferred them as a rock band than as an art band, so:

Modern Dance > Dub Housing >>>>>>>>> everything else

Raymond Douglas Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 8 September 2005 10:26 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Love the Datapanik box, but is buying anything else neccessary?

The Wooden Birds - "Blame the Messenger"
Rockets from the Tombs
& the Peter Laughner disc.

-David Thomas solo records are also great, if you like 'Sentimental Journey'
-Home and Garden records are spotty, but I really love some of em.

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Thursday, 8 September 2005 11:36 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I have The Day the Earth Met... and Rocket Redux. What's Laughner's solo stuff like?

Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 8 September 2005 11:47 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Laughner = classic. His style was schizophrenic -- Beefheart here, Thompson there, punk here, folk there - but I think he was mainly just interested in channeling his various interests. Rock It Down, Ain't It Fun, Sylvia Plath, and Baby's on Fire are all classic!

TRG (TRG), Thursday, 8 September 2005 12:00 (eleven years ago) Permalink

It's low-fi, bedroom recordings, but it's an insight into the early pere... Everyone seems to think it's fucking genious around here ... I don't hold it up that high. Laughner was a great guitarist, and it really shows in some of these recordings, but I still see it as more of a historical relic than some kind of masterpiece.

xpost...

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Thursday, 8 September 2005 12:04 (eleven years ago) Permalink

I saw a really fantastic local production of Ubu Roi a few years ago. Right before the lights went down, they played "Final Solution" in full over the soundsystem.

Boz Scaggs was Adele back in 1976 (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 December 2015 01:40 (one year ago) Permalink

Hey Jon, I finally got around to hearing the two Tripod Jimmie albums, fantastic weirdness in the tradition of early Ubu. These desperately need to be reissued!!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 13 December 2015 04:43 (one year ago) Permalink

I've actually never heard the first one.

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 13 December 2015 16:53 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

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Pere Ubu: The David Thomas Death Protocols

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THE DAVID THOMAS DEATH PROTOCOLS

Members of the Ubu Projex bands shall be informed three months after the event, not before, and will at that time receive an instruction pack. No one else is to be informed, including record company and agents.
David will continue to 'answer' his email and all social media will be regularly updated - if anything there should be an uptick in posting frequency. All interviews shall be by email - since the questions rarely change there is a sufficient backlog of answers that can be cut and pasted.
A Pere Ubu album shall be produced. Keith Moline is to be in charge of assembling lyrics and vocal performances from pre-existing material. A tour will be booked to coincide with the album release. At an appropriate point a band photo with David's replacement shall be released.
Someone is bound to ask, 'Where's David?'
The response shall be 'Oh, he died two years ago.'
Q. 'What happened?'
A. His body stopped working.
Q. 'What was the cause?'
A. 'Death.'
Q. Why didn't you say anything?'
A. 'It's none of your damn business.'

I'm currently in an online essential oil class! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 February 2016 16:59 (one year ago) Permalink

lol
pretty strange to think of someone replacing Thomas

tylerw, Monday, 8 February 2016 17:01 (one year ago) Permalink

<3 and everything, but yeah that's not ever going to work, is it?

posted with permission by (dog latin), Monday, 8 February 2016 17:02 (one year ago) Permalink

He's said that he already has his replacement identified...

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Monday, 8 February 2016 17:23 (one year ago) Permalink

haha, really? does his replacement know? is it ME?

tylerw, Monday, 8 February 2016 17:24 (one year ago) Permalink

Pretty sure the replacement is Steve Mehlman the drummer for Ubu & RFTTT, at least that seems to be what was hinted it at.

This is all very strange and very Ubu and I'll be very sad if he is dead

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 8 February 2016 17:29 (one year ago) Permalink

ha, i actually didn't even consider that he might be really dead ... thought this was just one of his weird pranks

tylerw, Monday, 8 February 2016 17:40 (one year ago) Permalink

I didn't either and now I'm worried

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Monday, 8 February 2016 17:45 (one year ago) Permalink

At first I was like, huh funny, but the more I thought about it, the more I thought maybe he was really dead.

Who knows! I've really loved like every record he's ever made basically, I'll be gutted.

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 8 February 2016 17:52 (one year ago) Permalink

There is a spring European tour scheduled with tom herman in the lineup and a career retrospective set list. Assuming dt is still with us that sounds like it will be amazing. NB I do not live in Europe :(

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Monday, 8 February 2016 17:56 (one year ago) Permalink

he also just played last week in london ...

tylerw, Monday, 8 February 2016 17:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah the Herman tour! I was just day dreaming those dates the other day...

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 8 February 2016 18:00 (one year ago) Permalink

Was just listening to "Bay City" his solo record with the Foreigners from the 90s.

Dead or alive I legit love this weirdo and his amazing voice.

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 8 February 2016 19:18 (one year ago) Permalink

amen

tylerw, Monday, 8 February 2016 19:56 (one year ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Enjoying "Carnival Of Souls" this evening. Any word from the world of Ubu regarding their next project?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 17 June 2016 03:46 (eleven months ago) Permalink

They are getting ready to tour the US and they got some vinyl box sets of the original albums coming out was the two communiques I remember seeing from Ubu Central.

earlnash, Friday, 17 June 2016 04:21 (eleven months ago) Permalink

The North American Coed Jail! tour of a concert set featuring songs from 1975 to 1982 is scheduled for June 16 to July 2. Dates are announced.
• 'Pere Ubu, The Scrapbook 1975-1982' is a 158-page, A4-sized book produced by Communex. It will be on sale at the merch table at Coed Jail! concerts.

curmudgeon, Friday, 17 June 2016 15:19 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I'd be interested to know what the contents of the book are.
Would also really love somebody discovering some early footage of the band that's been sitting in the back of a cupboard for 30 years. I think the earliest stuff in circulation is that Urgh A Music War version of Birdies.
Hope somebody can come forward and tell me I'm wrong though.

Stevolende, Friday, 17 June 2016 15:34 (eleven months ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

Tripod Jimmie's "Unclaimed Freight", a CD of outtakes and leftovers, is kicking my ass tonight.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 26 February 2017 03:06 (two months ago) Permalink

Where does one get that and did the studio albums come out on CDs?

Cognition (Remix) (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 26 February 2017 15:54 (two months ago) Permalink

I got it cheaply from Amazon. The studio albums have only been given a digital reissue from the Ubu store.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 26 February 2017 16:51 (two months ago) Permalink

I have one Tripod Jimmy cd I picked up in the 90s. Got it without cover. & not seen it in a while.

Stevolende, Sunday, 26 February 2017 17:02 (two months ago) Permalink

A long walk off a short pier was the cd title . I thought I remembered the word pier being in it.
& the spelling is jimmIE which I couldn't see from the writing opage my phone takes me to. Looks like there was a Tripod JimmY too

Stevolende, Monday, 27 February 2017 22:46 (two months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

To be honest, I''m still trying to understand them. I came up with a good best-of, I think, caveats included.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 March 2017 02:25 (two months ago) Permalink

good list, over tokyo

contenderizer, Friday, 17 March 2017 03:25 (two months ago) Permalink

great list although I think Dub Housing is their best and most accessible 'classic' album

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Friday, 17 March 2017 11:51 (two months ago) Permalink

you figure the classic period runs up through song of the bailing man in '82? whatever the case, it'll always be the modern dance afacic. and that only cuz the datapanik collection was originally incomplete (& not properly an album besides).

The sandwiches looked quite dank. (contenderizer), Friday, 17 March 2017 12:13 (two months ago) Permalink

I do, yeah.

I'd say Cloudland is their most accessible, by some distance.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 March 2017 12:19 (two months ago) Permalink

do correct "30 seconds over tokyo" tho

The sandwiches looked quite dank. (contenderizer), Friday, 17 March 2017 12:26 (two months ago) Permalink

I think David Thomas refers to 78-82 as the classic era, 88-93 as the Fontana or major label era and 94-present as the modern era. And stylistically they work well when compiled as such.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 17 March 2017 12:27 (two months ago) Permalink

Album peaks after modern dance and dub housing are, for me, the tenement year, cloudland, st Arkansas, and Thomas' monster walks the winter lake

chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Friday, 17 March 2017 12:47 (two months ago) Permalink

New Picnic Time is still pretty great. Getting abstract and arty but not as much as the Mayo Thompson era that follows it.

Found some of my live sets since I mentioned losing them. Wish there was more available.
& really wish there was video before Birdies on Urgh A Music War. Would have been great if the early arty scene in Cleveland included film makers. Would love mid 70s footage of all the bands on that scene.

Stevolende, Friday, 17 March 2017 12:59 (two months ago) Permalink

the tenement year, cloudland, st Arkansas, and Thomas' monster walks the winter lake

love the former two, guess i need to track down the latter

The sandwiches looked quite dank. (contenderizer), Friday, 17 March 2017 13:48 (two months ago) Permalink

Wasn't there a These or Recommended box of the Thomas solo mid 80s stuff? Think I saw it in listings.
Had interesting sidemen like Richard Thompson and Chris Cutler on too didn't it. The latter's in late 80s PU too.

Stevolende, Friday, 17 March 2017 14:35 (two months ago) Permalink

Yes, the "Monster" box: https://www.discogs.com/David-Thomas-Monster/master/425902

I find it very inconsistent but the high points (as discussed upthread) are terrific.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 17 March 2017 14:54 (two months ago) Permalink

Monster is well worth having for More Places Forever, Monster Walks..., Blame the Messenger, and the bonus Pale Boys Live disc.

I forgot to list More Places Forever in my peak albums list, if anything it's even better than Monster Walks... Art Bears + Ubu I mean come on!

chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Friday, 17 March 2017 15:41 (two months ago) Permalink

listening to the datapanik cd box for the first time. someone brought in a copy for trade. does anyone know why there is no laughner solo stuff on the terminal drive disc of ubu-related stuff?

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:26 (two months ago) Permalink

not sure about the specifics for that box, but laughner material is in all kinds of weird legal limbo — there's been an archival reissue project in the works for almost a decade that's been postponed over and over.

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:31 (two months ago) Permalink

just seemed like a pretty glaring omission.

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:38 (two months ago) Permalink

they do have a Friction track on there that is on the take the guitar player for a ride collection.

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:41 (two months ago) Permalink

it's a great box though. filled with essentialness that is essential. every home should have one. in the basement next to the batteries and flashlights and jugs of water.

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:45 (two months ago) Permalink

THere wasa great cd compilation I bought called Take The Guitar Player For A ride, but i think it was OOP when I last bought it.

Is there a book on the Cleveland scene yet beyond the section of From The Velvets TO The Voidoids?

Was 'Those Were Different Times' a book or a magazine article?

Stevolende, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:49 (two months ago) Permalink

the guitar player comp is out of print which is why you should grab it if you see a cd or vinyl version in a store.

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:54 (two months ago) Permalink

and it is likewise essential, but it always bums me out when some vital piece of history has to be left off of a project like the datapanik box for extra-musical reasons. he was a founding father.

scott seward, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:55 (two months ago) Permalink

Those Were Different Times = fanzine article i think

at least that's where i read it (tho where my copy of said fanzine currently is in my flat i could not tell you)

mark s, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 15:57 (two months ago) Permalink

I wish I still had the datapanik box. I went through hard times when I sold so many things.

I mean I have all those albums 'digitally' but that was such a great roundup.

chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 21 March 2017 16:07 (two months ago) Permalink

Grabbed the 2nd version when it was cheap on Amazon. 1st version had been falling apart on me for ages by then.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 21 March 2017 20:17 (two months ago) Permalink


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