they'd clean up then
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost. I'm thinking 'Birthday' as dreampop more from an instrumental perspective. Regarding the vocal performance, I agree with you.
― righteousmaelstrom, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Ok just to wrap up my last opinion on the sundays discussion. Dreampop's connection to shoegaze is atmospherical for the most part. The Sundays songs are too clean and polished to be considered dreampop imho, if maybe there was some sort of soundwall burying her voice or the acoustic guitars then maybe I could consider it dreampop. Even a reverb-soaked or echo-ey guitar would do.
― Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:44 (thirteen years ago) link
This board got me to listen to Bark Psychosis a few years ago, btw. Didn't do a thing for me.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41W6P7PETSL._SL500_AA300_.jpg55. Spiritualized - Run (4 votes, 127 points)Lazer Guided Melodies (1992)Youtube
― Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link
^ 54 not 55.
I have that album with the name spelt 'Spritualized'
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link
lol oops
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Shine A Light and If I Were With Her Now and maybe Angel Sigh are my faves from that album, wonder if any of 'em will crop up (doubtful)
― ukhhchavvin' (acoleuthic), Thursday, 28 October 2010 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7R7hhXf4zUU/SC0IOkRm7eI/AAAAAAAACBk/DtTFaSzy-sE/s400/KitchensOfDistinction.jpg53. Kitchens Of Distinction - Drive That Fast (7 votes, 128 points)Strange Free World (1990)Youtube
― Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link
SUPER!
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link
"Birthday" is weird, expansive, meandering, and all around awesome, but way too forceful a vocal performance to be considered "ethereal".
Yeah maybe, but it's closer to the Cranes or the Cocteaus or Hugo Largo or whoever than the Sundays ever were imo.
― Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Run was my one Spiritualized vote iirc. It seems everyone other than me really took into account the genre appropriateness of the noms before voting. I didn't, just went with my favs on the list which resulted in at least a quarter of my ballot being filled with stuff I'd never call shoegaze OR dreampop.
― epically swindled (pandemic), Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:03 (thirteen years ago) link
This is the first thing I'd voted for to show up since Tuesday. xps
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
I think you meant this for Kitchens of Distinction
― lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Very happy about the Kitchens of Distinction votes. One of the most underrated shoegaze bands I think.
Next one sounds goth-gaze to my ears and it aint the Cure.
― Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link
I never really connected KoD to shoegaze, personally.
― lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_M_jjIJQmP64/S4fPwKFfg-I/AAAAAAAABcs/w7gEWABr4hE/s320/Slowdive+-+Morningrise+EP.jpg52. Slowdive - morningrise (6 votes, 129 points)Morningrise (1991)Youtube
― Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
here's a Youtube of that song playable in the US
― lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I got a bit bored with a lot of KoD, but 'Drive That Fast' still has the power to clobber me.
― Harrison Buttwhistle (NickB), Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Guys I promised a friend I'd go jogging with her and she arrived early. I'm gonna leave you now and I'll be posting the following 10 when I get back in a couple of hours. Sorry.
― Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link
http://img.amazon.ca/images/I/61S161DW2XL._SL500_AA300_.jpg51. M83 - Don't Save Us From The Flames (4 votes, 130 points)Before the Dawn Heals Us (2005)Youtube
― Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I'll be posting the following 10 when I get back in a couple of hours. Sorry.
UNACCEPTABLE! I'm just going to make up the next 10.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
lol ok I'll give you a clue, 3 bands that haven't appeared so far appear twice in the following ten numbers.
― Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Here's the bottom half of the top 100(+2) for those keeping track:
100. COCTEAU TWINS "Cherry Coloured Funk (1990) [90 points, 3 votes]99. MAHOGANY "Supervitesse" (2006) [90 points, 4 votes]98. MOOSE "Suzanne" (1991) [90 points, 5 votes]97. SLOWDIVE "40 Days" (1993) [91 points, 3 votes]96. LOW, TRANSIENT WAVES & PIANO MAGIC "Sleep at the Bottom" (1998) [92 points, 3 votes]95. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Cupid Come" (1988) [92 points, 5 votes]94. CRANES "Starblood" (1991) [93 points, 5 votes]93. MOGWAI "Mogwai Fear Satan" (1997) [94 points, 5 votes]92. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Loomer" (1991) [95 points, 5 votes]91. BARDO POND "Tommy Gun Angel" (1997) [96 points, 4 votes]90. LUSH "Nothing Natural" (1991) [97 points, 4 votes]89. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Swallow" (1991) [97 points, 5 votes]88. DNTEL "The Is the Dream of Evan and Chan" (2001) [98 points, 4 votes]87. YO LA TENGO "From a Motel 6" (1993) [99 points, 6 votes]TIE 86. SWERVEDRIVER "Never Lose That Feeling" (1993) [100 points, 3 votes]TIE 86. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Lose My Breath" (1988) [100 points, 3 votes]85. THE SUNDAYS "Skin and Bones" (1990) [101 points, 3 votes]84. THE CHAMELEONS "View From a Hill" (1983) [101 points, 4 votes]83. SLOWDIVE "Slowdive" (1990) [101 points, 5 votes]82. GLENN BRANCA "Lesson No.1" (1980) [102 points, 4 votes]81. DISCO INFERNO "Summer's Last Sound" (1992) [103 points, 4 votes]
80. JULEE CRUISE "Falling" (1989) [104 points, 6 votes]79. SPACEMEN 3 "Suicide" (1989) [105 points, 4 votes]78. M83 "Run Into Flowers" (2003) [106 points, 4 votes]77. VERVE "A Man Called Sun" (1992) [107 points, 5 votes]76. WIRE "The 15th" (1979) [108 points, 5 votes]75. MOOSE "Jack" (1991) [109 points, 4 votes]TIE 74. PALE SAINTS "Throwing Back the Apple" (1992) [110 points, 5 votes]TIE 74. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "I Only Said" (1991) [110 points, 5 votes]73. LUSH "For Love" (1992) [110 points, 6 votes]72. THE TELESCOPES "High on Fire" (1992) [111 points, 4 votes]71. SPACEMEN 3 "Hypnotized" (1989) [112 points, 4 votes]70. RIDE "Taste" (1990) [113 points, 5 votes]69. DISCO INFERNO "Second Language" (1994) [114 points, 4 votes]68. SLOWDIVE "Souvlaki Space Station" (1993) [115 points, 7 votes]67. THE HOUSE OF LOVE "Destroy the Heart" (1988) [116 points, 7 votes]66. A.R. KANE "Lollita" (1987) [117 points, 3 votes]65. RIDE "Drive Blind" (1990) [118 points, 3 votes]64. CHAPTERHOUSE "Breather" (1990) [118 points, 7 votes]63. GROUPER "Heavy Water / I'd Rather Be Sleeping" (2008) [119 points, 4 votes]62. SLOWDIVE "Avalyn I" (1990) [120 points, 3 votes]61. SPIRITUALIZED "Medication" (1992) [121 points, 5 votes]
60. MY BLOODY VALENTINE "Off Your Face" (1990) [122 points, 4 votes]59. TEENAGE FANCLUB "Star Sign" (1991) [123 points, 6 votes]58. THE BOO RADLEYS "Does This Hurt?" (1992) [124 points, 5 votes]57. THE SUNDAYS "Here's Where the Story Ends" (1990) [124 points, 6 votes]56. COCTEAU TWINS "Heaven or Las Vegas" (1990) [125 points, 6 votes]55. BARK PSYCHOSIS "A Street Scene" (1994) [126 points, 3 votes]54. SPIRITUALIZED "Run" (1992) [127 points, 4 votes]53. KITCHENS OF DISTINCTION "Drive That Fast" (1990) [128 points, 7 votes]52. SLOWDIVE "Morningrise" (1991) [129 points, 6 votes]51. M83 "Don't Save Us From the Flames" (2005) [130 points, 4 votes]
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Yay, 'A Street Scene'! Can take or leave a lot of Bark Psychosis, but I love that track. Also 'Morningrise' was my only Slowdive vote, affection at least partly driven by the fact it was the first of theirs that I heard.
― emil.y, Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link
US-playable M83 Youtube
― lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Could Slowdive give MBV a run for their money in terms of tracks that place?
― Hugo Stiglitz, a rich young man in search of romance & adventure (Pillbox), Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link
er.. number of trax that place.
― Hugo Stiglitz, a rich young man in search of romance & adventure (Pillbox), Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Right now it is 6-5 w/ MBV in the lead
― Hugo Stiglitz, a rich young man in search of romance & adventure (Pillbox), Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link
& out there still are at least two big Souvlaki tracks & one early single. A shitload of MBV as well, obv.. o_O @"Machine Gun" & "Blue Skied an Clear" & "Waves" not being nominated.
― Hugo Stiglitz, a rich young man in search of romance & adventure (Pillbox), Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link
it's all Slowdive and MBV from here on out PB...
my prediction for #1 = You Made Me Realise
― captain extra tomato (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link
From that last batch, my picks were "Off Your Face", which still might be my favourite MBV track; "Morningrise", and "Here's Where the Story Ends" - one of a few Sundays tracks I rounded off my ballot with. They don't fit the description of shoegaze or even dreampop in my book, but such is my love for Reading Writing and Arithmetic - best LP of the 1990s by a chalk of any length - that I couldn't resist throwing some of their songs into the mix. God, I love that album.
― like an ant to a crumb (DavidM), Thursday, 28 October 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link
xp: callin it "Only Shallow"
― Hugo Stiglitz, a rich young man in search of romance & adventure (Pillbox), Thursday, 28 October 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Wow, heaps of people voted for "Does this Hurt?". (inc myself). Awesome x
― Sunn O))) Sundae Smile (Trayce), Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Dang! I haven't been on ILM much and completely missed the voting for this. I would have given all my votes to "Sometimes" FWIW.
― seandalai, Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Aight I'm back. Let me drink water and I'll start.
― Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RccJycRsmM8/SgtFL8qZldI/AAAAAAAAABM/r-_0cbEQBpA/s320/Loop-Arc-lite.jpg50. Loop - Arc-Lite (Sonar) (5 votes, 132 points)Arc-Lite (1989)Youtube
― Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link
^Liking the sound of this one.
that song sounds very Oneida-y
― captain extra tomato (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/22/LeisureUK.jpg49. Blur - Sing (5 votes, 134 points)Leisure - UK version (1991)Youtube
― Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link
^okay I def. voted for this & gave it a good amount of points too...
― captain extra tomato (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Brilliant song. Didn't vote for it but glad it made it to the top 50.
― Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link
I had no idea this was only released in the UK version of the album. No wonder I've never heard of it until Trainspotting dug it out for us in the American continent.
― Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah! I gave this a whirl again, was surprised at just how good it is. Got decent points from me too.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/610uqgW40qL._SL500_AA300_.jpg48. Brian Eno - Here Comes the Warm Jets (5 votes, 134 points)Here Come The Warm Jets (1974)Youtube
― Moka, Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Sod Shakey, thanks Ismael for sneaking this one in for me, I gave it a full 50 points. I still think 'needle in the camel's eye' made more sense in the poll but I'm happy either way.
Finally some Loop made it in.
― righteousmaelstrom, Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't know why I left "Sing " out of my ballot. I totally meant to vote for it.
― daavid, Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Re: The Sundays, I'm with Moka, I mean, I love "Here's Where The Story Ends" but shoegaze it ain't.
― daavid, Thursday, 28 October 2010 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link