I Wanna POLL On A Sunny Day - JAMC's Honey's Dead

Sugar Ray on the basis of that awesome riff...no matter that it was used in a Bud commercial...

― henry s, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

Far Gone & Out by a large margin

Rollercoaster would be a close second, but I prefer the EP version.

A wonderful album, tho it is one of those with which I have a hard time sussing out the nostalgia factor vs. its objective value

― lol @ dog w/ sunglasses (Pillbox), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

Love Far Gone and Out but Reverence was such a highlight of the reunion shows - like a surly, E-hating take on post-Screamadelica indie-dance.

― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

First time I ever went to America, bought this on tape first day I was there and drove around Florida with this as the soundtrack. It was the only thing I listened to for 2 weeks. Awesome. If I'm being honest I would totally vote for Teenage Lust even though it is pretty icky. Probably be between Far Gone And Out and Tumbledown....or maybe Almost Gold. Damn it! Or Catchfire!! I'll have to listen again before voting. Hi Dere's description is perfect btw.

― epically swindled (pandemic), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was gonna sputter "who on earth wrote the Spotify blurb for this album?!?!??! basic fact checking RONG*!!!" before realising twas our own Ned Raggett. Oops.

*JAMC's drum throne did not pass directly from Bobby G to Monti - forgetting John Moore in the middle there

― Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

As much as I love Sugar Ray and Teenage Lust - Catch Fire just disappears up its own hole in a fit of sugary nastiness and tremolo guitar. Like, how can something so bitter and nasty and ugly and horrible be, at the same time, so damn SEXY.

(The grown up in me thinks Teenage Lust is despicable and horrible, but the 15 year old in me thinks it's the best thing ever.)

― Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

The grown up in me thinks Teenage Lust is despicable and horrible, but the 15 year old in me thinks it's the best thing ever

haha OTM

"Reverence" vs "Sugar Ray" vs "Catchfire" for me

― O'Donnell and the Brain (HI DERE), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

I had no idea that The Drug Store was at Elephant and Castle! That explains so much.

― Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

I was just reviewing the new 2CD best of on Rhino and thinking that the JAMC didn't make any real bad albums, just increasingly less necessary ones. Received wisdom is that it's all diminishing returns after the big bang of Psychocandy but whenever I put on an allegedly disappointing record like Automatic or Honey's Dead I find myself loving it.

― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Nothing beats the first time rush of Psychocandy, but really, Honey's Dead is pretty essential. I'd say it's probably my second favourite of their albums - certainly the one I still get out and listen to the most.

Even though pretty much everything about it from guitar tone to drumbeats screams "1992!" it makes me realise that actually I'm really quite fond of 1992.

― Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I remember jjj picked up Darklands when we were in high school and I thought the whole thing was just a disappointing mess; I was really missing the low end. I enjoyed "Head On" on the radio but not enough to pick up Automatic, so I was really unprepared with how hard "Reverence" tore my head off when I heard it.

I haven't listened to Darklands since so I don't know if I'd be more inclined to enjoy it now; I'm guessing I would. I do know that Honey's Dead is fucking amazing, though.

― O'Donnell and the Brain (HI DERE), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Darklands is at least 60% utterly classic.

― lol @ dog w/ sunglasses (Pillbox), Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

I always forget about the Neubauten sample in Tumbledown even though it completely fucked the head off my Neubauten-loving then-housemate. Tee hee hee.

― Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

Och, this interview:

http://aprilskies.amniisia.com/articles/art_copy.php?id=74&sort=interview

<3

― Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 26 October 2010 17:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

― System, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

voted for teenage lust just so i can feel like an icky old man

― dynamicinterface, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 01:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

The first JAMC I was conscious of: "Far Gone and Out" and "Almost Gold" got lots of airplay on my college station.

― otherwise, and twat (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 01:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

We called Sugar Ray the fucking song at the time.

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 02:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

voting "Reverence" but something tells me, if i listen to this right now that i would change my mind and go with "Teenage Lust."

― World Series champion San Francisco Giants (Bee OK), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 04:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well, I voted for Catchfire in the end.

(Which is odd that it left me, as I'm almost certain I already voted before.)

― Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 10:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

I just dug up "Munki", so...

― Mark G, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 10:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

hmmm tough one. Whoever upthread is OTM pointing out how much this screams '92 (but in a good way). At the time I would have gone for 'Teenage Lust' but I fear I'd find it cheesy if I put it on now. Might vote for 'Reverence' instead (also somewhat ridiculous but w/e)

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 11:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

It is pretty much all about the accelerating and deccelerating tremolo on the wails of feedback on the "guitar solo" bit of Catchfire. And then Jim starts moaning about being crucified and it's all... oh yes please.

― Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 11:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

I can't really explain why 17 year old me didn't fall in love with this album, esp. after playing Automatic to death. Maybe it's darkness and abrasiveness felt a little contrived. These days I listen to Darklands (160% classic imo) and yes Stoned and Dethroned.

I vote 'Reverence'!

― amazing disorder (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 11:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

'its'

― amazing disorder (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 11:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

I realized I was going to love this album to bits the first time I heard it and the first song that didn't feel like the greatest thing ever recorded on first listen was "I Can't Get Enough". Everything about this album, from the beats to the feedback to the menace to the prettiness to the loudness to the softness to the EVERYTHING, speaks to me on a fundamental level. This is an album I would pick as an example of what I think music should sound like.

― DJP, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 15:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Automatic" always felt too clean/clinical. On this one, the scuzz was back!

― Mark G, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 15:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

tumbledown

― dayo, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 15:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

complete aside: does anyone else totally geek out over the Desdemoana mix of "Teenage Lust"?

― DJP, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

This album was just full of nasty horrible sounds that they dug up out from under the drains out back of the Drug Store. (Very similar to the aesthetic of that Curve album I was listening to this morning.) It is the most filthy dirty thing I have ever heard and I want to kiss it on the tongue.

does anyone else totally geek out over the Desdemoana mix of "Teenage Lust"?

Eh, what?

― Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

I am looking for a link of it that isn't incredibly suspect and virus-laden but it's not going well; I guess it was originally on the "Rollercoaster" single/EP but I heard it on The Jesus and Mary Chain Hate Rock and Roll comp that came out shortly after Honey's Dead. It strips off the feedback and the beat and replaces it with the stomping hip-hop beat with some low-level white noise burbling in the background. It's a total love-it-or-hate-it thing and I completely love it.

― DJP, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 15:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

I suppose I could ask my bestie in NYC for a rip - not on YouTube, I take it?

― Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 15:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have it in the same cabinet that "Munki" was in, bought in NY back whenever.

― Mark G, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 15:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

Not seeing it on Youtube, no. There are a bunch of live versions of "Teenage Lust" though!

― DJP, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 15:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost I bought the "hate R&R" cd in NY, not the cabinet. Or Munki. Actually, I might have bought Munki, it's the SubPop edition...

― Mark G, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 15:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

I remember there being some pretty good remixes on the Reverence single (incl a Ministry one)

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

mmm, I remember it as being "much the same", but then it was HOW LONG!!???? ago.

― Mark G, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Even all these years later I associate this album with lemon-honey Halls cough drops - I believe I was chewing on them when I first heard the album, and that crossed with the colour of the cover, the name, and the gauzy feeling in both the music and my head made the association stick.

Definitely loved it at the time, and still do. And definitely felt a lot more fulfilling than Automatic did at the time.

― Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 16:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah I'd be curious to see a discussion on Automatic around here. so weirdly and obsessively sterile

― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 16:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

We had a thread on Automatic, didn't we? Or was that Darklands?

― Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 16:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yes.

JAMC Automatic Poll

Though I'm not sure I voted?

― Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 16:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

Unless that was me that voted for "Gimmee hell, gimee hell, I'm fucked up anyway" I'm really not sure.

― Wheal Dream, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 16:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

I keep thinking I should pick up Automatic because I really like "Head On" a lot, but I don't really listen to JAMC for that type of song (kind of like I don't really listen to Love and Rockets for songs like "So Alive" or "**** (Jungle Law)"; I love them both, but they are the only ones off of that album I ever even consider playing).

― DJP, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 16:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

That interview linked upthread is brilliant

"I think, in the studio," says William, "we're probably the least precious musicians around. If somebody in the studio can play a better guitar part than me, I'll give them the guitar. I'll give it to him," he nods at Jim, "or I'll give it to Alan Moulder (the engineer), or I'll give it too... For instance, on "Some Candy Talking", right? That bass part. He (Jim) couldn't play it. I couldn't play it. Douglas was the fuckin' bass player and he couldn't play it. We asked all the engineers in the studio can any of you lot play it, and they couldn't play it." He starts to laugh.

Jim: "It's got to be pointed out here that was an incredibly simple bass part."

― the reasonable one (onimo), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I have no access to music here at work so I'm singing through them all in my head and Reverence is drowning out all the others, so I'm voting for that.

― the reasonable one (onimo), Tuesday, 9 November 2010 17:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

"Teenage Lust"! kinda nasty & the essence of the album to me.

― Euler, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 20:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

― System, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Well, I'm guessing that was me & DJP who were the only votes for Catchfire. ;_;

― Wheal Dream, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 10:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yup. ;_;

― DJP, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 14:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

man I underrate "Good For My Soul" a lot

― keeping things contextual (DJP), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:00 (9 months ago) Permalink