Sharon Van Etten

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Couldn't find a thread on her. First album was really good, and she just put out a second that's a grower. Thoughts?

AlexPh, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

I think the new one is a big improvement upon the first, which was pleasant but a little samey. "One Day" is the standout track for me. I've been aching for a studio version ever since hearing her play it on pitchfork.tv earlier this year. But it's kinda funny, i like the sound of it more coming out of tinny laptop speakers than out of my regular speakers or headphones. It's got this great familiar am radio vibe.

Z S, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

i like the new one a bunch. it seems a super lazy comparison for an acoustic guitar player but the first half of the lp is kinda early-dylan, to me. she does the steel pedal thing without seeming too retro or affected-country, too.

inimitable bowel syndrome (schlump), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 17:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Sharon covering "Last Night I Dreamt Somebody Loved Me"
http://soundcloud.com/morrisday/sharon-van-etten-last-night-i-dreamt-somebody-that-loved-me

Pinktits, Monday, 8 November 2010 18:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

thanks!

she's a marvellous wonder, although i'm a sop who prefers acoustic-y melancholy to midtempo electric

sean gramophone, Monday, 8 November 2010 18:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Finally giving her an ear -- yeah, this is good stuff.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 February 2011 06:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

I love "Epic", which I discovered last autumn on a joyous record store crawl around Williamsburg.

Daniel Giraffe, Monday, 14 February 2011 13:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

she has a good angriness

schlump, Monday, 14 February 2011 18:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i fell pretty hard for 'epic' - among other things, it is catchy as hell, i had a different song from it buzzing around my head every day for a good while

brigitte beardo (donna rouge), Monday, 14 February 2011 18:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

I pretty much found because I was in love to be exhausting and unpleasant, possibly because I was introduced to her by hearing her on that Antlers record that was also exhausting and unpleasant, but 'epic' is just so well put-together and her show opening for Junip in which she played it in its entirety was one of the best things I saw last year. really looking forward to the next one, which I guess is being worked on with guy from the National now

rope (lloydwabbitt), Wednesday, 16 February 2011 21:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Interviewing her in an hour and a half. Anybody have a burning question or two for her?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 March 2011 18:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

My feature/interview is up. Cool person!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 March 2011 23:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

Trying this again, apparently they had to adjust the URL for whatever reason:

http://www.ocweekly.com/2011-03-24/music/sharon-van-etten-epic-detroit-bar/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 March 2011 00:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

good lord, this new one is awesome

SELF DEPORTATION (Z S), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 03:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

You have the full thing? I hate you.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 03:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

i....i'm sorry

"give out" is esp great, early on

SELF DEPORTATION (Z S), Tuesday, 24 January 2012 03:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

http://www.npr.org/2012/01/29/145731033/first-listen-sharon-van-etten-tramp

Really enjoying this so far.

Daniel Giraffe, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is real good.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 6 February 2012 21:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

i was really disappointed the first time i played this, really disappointed, bc i think the last two are so good & that serpents was amazing in a whole new way. but then i played it again & liked it some more. i don't like the beirut guy. but i'm gonna stick with it. expect progress updates

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Monday, 6 February 2012 23:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Finally listened to her latest on the NPR stream after seeing a big Sunday Washington Post interview and reading that my local alt-weekly arts editor loves this--- eh, it's ok. Maybe I need to give it more time. On first listen I do not hear enough variety.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 14:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

tramp is a very strong record. not my sort of thing, usually, but this is great and really catchy in a classy, subtle way

Delia Derbyshire's Complete Moog Cookery Course (electricsound), Saturday, 17 March 2012 05:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's weird to me that this thread isn't drowning in hateration, her rise to prominence is prime indie-hater bait

plastic surgery dizbusters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 17 March 2012 07:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

how so

Delia Derbyshire's Complete Moog Cookery Course (electricsound), Saturday, 17 March 2012 09:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like Tramp just fine but it's no patch on Epic.

Simon H., Saturday, 17 March 2012 12:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love Warsaw. I think the record in a whole is a grower. Anyway it's good breakup listening.

Shin Oliva Suzuki, Saturday, 17 March 2012 14:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

her rise to prominence is prime indie-hater bait

Well, the new one is awash in guests from Beirut, the National, Wye Oak, Walkmen, Doveman, Julianna Barwick. If you have a problem with current indie, you'd have a problem with this. Me, I thought it sounded a bit like the first Breeders record retrofitted for NPR listeners, but not necessarily in a bad way.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 March 2012 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

not sure what you are on about there, the first breeders? was that pod? this sharon van etten has nothing to do with that kind of demoish sounding indie rock. it's more of a songwriter album in the vein of joni mitchell, cat power etc. excellent stuff, great hooks esp. the first five songs, a dreamy voice which goes to the bone, i didn't dig into the lyrics yet but apparently they are very personal about her trying to survive on the roads of new york, she had no home when she recorded the album. i'd like to know if warsaw has got something to do with joy division, probably not but what hell of a song!

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 21:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

if you want to compare it with a first album that would be much more the first michelle shocked, the texas campfire tapes though this is much more polished and arranged, it is not her first album and it shows.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 21:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's weird to me that this thread isn't drowning in hateration, her rise to prominence is prime indie-hater bait

it surely is but maybe she just won't be big enough to circulate outside the npr-indie enclave.

j., Wednesday, 4 April 2012 05:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I'm a latecomer to her -- have been sort of aware of her as somebody I wanted to check out -- but noticing that she's coming to town next week prompted me to get Epic and Tramp. Enjoying both, need some time to sink in, but I'm looking forward to the show.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

After going back and hearing Epic, I definitely prefer that one. The new one gets too bogged down by that Brooklyn indie approach, which I don't think suits her as well.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 20 April 2012 14:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

what would you say defines "that Brooklyn indie approach" exactly?

caulk the wagon and float it, Friday, 20 April 2012 15:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol i know that was super weird and vague, i guess just the vibe of the whole album, it sounded a lot like latter-day National albums (which makes sense, given the producer) and Walkmen albums. which is fine for those bands, but i don't think the sound works as well with Sharon's voice. i think she needs something a little more gritty and raw and not so, i don't know, NPRish.

heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 20 April 2012 15:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dag, she puts on a good show. Terrific performer, great lovely voice, she's touring with a really sharp band. Nice range in the set, from quiet murmury moments to some real howling anthemic rock.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

warsaw's cool

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 29 May 2012 00:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

tipsy otm.
her show in manchester was spellbinding from start to finish, with a tiptop backing band to boot.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

warsaw's cool

yeah i like the new album quite a bit but i also keep just playing this song over and over

yorba linda carlisle (donna rouge), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 21:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

did anybody hear the demos record
i wanna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv20Hlfl1Po

kristof-profiting-from-a-childs-illiteracy.html (schlump), Monday, 17 December 2012 06:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

blorp

kristof-profiting-from-a-childs-illiteracy.html (schlump), Monday, 17 December 2012 06:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

i am listening to this & it kinda slays, fwiw

it's super messy & raw. i was not so crazy about the record & this is like the antidote; not in sweetly recasting the songs as lighter, whisperier sve-classic slow jams but in being boombox & drum machine recordings of someone howling their songs into shape. it's a $7 cdr from the label, also.

kristof-profiting-from-a-childs-illiteracy.html (schlump), Sunday, 23 December 2012 07:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

uuuugh, these are so, so much better. for the love of god, please never record with the national again sharon van etten. that demo version of serpents is an eye opener.

"reading specialist" (Z S), Sunday, 23 December 2012 15:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

serpents was actually the song i liked on the record, i think it works, i am still trying to find the 7" because the b-side is nice, too. & iirc julianna barwick was playing on the record somewhere, so i can sorta feel the idea of SVE + group, rather than just doing her one man band thing. but then there is the guy from beirut singing & it's just, just what is this, you know. the serpents demo is killer anyway, yes. i hear she is real into leonard cohen, it's kinda like hearing this, the pre-edit jam:

kristof-profiting-from-a-childs-illiteracy.html (schlump), Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

some of the lyrical swaps in serpents are kinda fascinating btw

kristof-profiting-from-a-childs-illiteracy.html (schlump), Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

http://youtu.be/M4TCAjfGN1M --A video of Sharon covering touring mate Nick Cave's _Boatman's Call_ cut, "People They Ain't No Good", during a radio session. It's really lovely. Skip to 1:20 for the performance.

Darvin H.A.M. (AlexPh), Sunday, 13 January 2013 08:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

i really like the warbling aspect of her singing in "give out", where she allows her voice to drift off key in a manner reminiscent of the built to spill guy and the clap your hands say yeah guy. are there other female singers who sing in this very indie style?

Treeship, Thursday, 30 May 2013 02:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Kristen Hersh?

☉.☉☂ (unregistered), Thursday, 30 May 2013 14:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

*Kristin

☉.☉☂ (unregistered), Thursday, 30 May 2013 14:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

also Amy Annelle. I have to say that the CYHSY guy's voice is one of my least favorite sounds in music.

☉.☉☂ (unregistered), Thursday, 30 May 2013 14:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, you are not alone in thinking that. but you are not with me. that album came out when i was 15 or something though so i think that crackling, off-key sound, affected as it is, is a thing that works for me when it is done well. also i see it as a variation of jeff mangum's singing voice, and ITAOTS was super-formative to me.

the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Thursday, 30 May 2013 14:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

but i can see how it would sound grating to other people, kind of like the grumbling, 90s, pearl jam voice is just the worst sound ever for me. thanks for the tips.

the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Thursday, 30 May 2013 14:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

I heard the CYHSY album about a year after I first heard Neutral Milk Hotel, and I think I was put off by the NMH-isms of the former. It seems like they roughly copped the lo-fi kookiness of old Elephant 6 band but left out all the eerie horn arrangements and guitar fuzz and self-mythologizing lyrics and weird production choices and everything else that made NMH interesting, so in the end they were just a run-of-the-mill "quirky" indie rock band. Jess Mangum's tuneless vocal freakouts worked well within the context of his songs because he was capable of singing sweetly and tunefully when he wanted to, whereas the CYHSY's guy just grated and bleated along 100% of the time (at least to my ears) like a metal dude who doesn't know when to take his growling down a notch. I dunno, maybe I'd like the band better if I went back and listened to them now. in some ways I was a much harsher critic in 2006 than I am now.

☉.☉☂ (unregistered), Thursday, 30 May 2013 14:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol, grumbling, 90s Pearl Jam stuff was just about all I listened to when I was 15.

☉.☉☂ (unregistered), Thursday, 30 May 2013 14:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

the best place to start with Amy Annelle is The Cimarron Banks (and after that, Songs for Creeps by The Places) btw. 'Forever In-Between' is a pretty good example of the vocal trick you're looking for.

☉.☉☂ (unregistered), Thursday, 30 May 2013 15:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp i see what you mean, and i agree with you that cyhsy are incapable of making an album as rich as in the aeroplane over the sea -- they are just not the same class of band -- but still, the lo-fi, warbling quirkiness seemed like a durable schtick to me in high school, and i really loved "the skin of my yellow country teeth" because it was anthemic but the singer sounded, at the same time, drunk in a vulnerable way. in general too, i am just biased toward idiosyncratic singers... dylan and nico are my favorite vocalists.

the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Thursday, 30 May 2013 15:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm listening to forever in between now and it is perfect, thanks.

the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Thursday, 30 May 2013 15:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

I really like the backing track of "The Skin of My Yellow Country Teeth", actually. it would be perfect if some 90s indie guy like Steven Malkmus was singing over it. make this happen!

☉.☉☂ (unregistered), Thursday, 30 May 2013 15:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

glad you like the Amy Annelle song. I feel like I'm the only person in the world (or ILM, anyways) who stans for her.

☉.☉☂ (unregistered), Thursday, 30 May 2013 15:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah i like it a lot, but i have a serious soft spot melancholy female singer songwriters.

the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Thursday, 30 May 2013 15:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

I hope everyone interested in this thread has given the excellent Torres album a listen.

boxedjoy, Thursday, 30 May 2013 16:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

11 months pass...

And yes, that Torres album is good. Don't ignore Shelby Earl either!

Anyway, for this year -- Sharon's new album is streaming:

http://www.thecurrent.org/feature/2014/05/16/first-listen-sharon-van-etten-are-we-there

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 May 2014 16:16 (5 months ago) Permalink

Man, this is sad, heavy stuff even for an SVE record. It's great, but some of these songs are like having somebody stand on your throat.

Evan R, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:58 (5 months ago) Permalink

Obviously she touched on an abusive relationship on her first couple albums, but there's an ugliness and physicality on these songs that makes those earlier accounts seem whitewashed by comparison. There's so much trauma here it hurts; it breaks my heart that she went through all of this

Evan R, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 20:06 (5 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

the previous albums really didn't do much for me, but this one is hitting the spot.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 20:45 (2 months ago) Permalink

"afraid of nothing" is a showstopper

ciderpress, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 12:47 (2 months ago) Permalink


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