ZZ Top's Eliminator - C/D?

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Well, what say all of you?

GCannon, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Dude, wouldn't it be totally tight if one of those electronuwave bands like, got together with a White Stripes kind of a thing? You know, like sequencers in the rhythm mix, totally simple-ass structures, dancy rock beats. And then the guitar is, like really sharp blues stuff. And it's not fucking 'ironic' or anything, it's totally real, you know, but still funny, all about getting laid and stuff. If they had a visual gimmick or two with some sweet videos, it'd be like the perfect fucking band."

GCannon, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, I got rid of my copy. Pity, cos I was listening to it recently and its the best disco-rock album ever. CLASSIC

Michael Bourke, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic obviously, I think the official muso line is of course that their mid 70's choogling stuff is where its at before they sold out.

Winkelmann, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

In one of the Pet Shop Boys reissues Mr. Tennant talks about this album and loving its particular sound, and how that influenced at least one song along the way. Gotta love stuff like that!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic in the sense that it got almost of the the Disco sucks smuks from the 70's to like dance music..But I'll never play it round the house.Tres Hombres for me.

brg30, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hate it. 80s ZZ Top is almost always an instant change-the-station band for me.

Side-note: This, Pyromania and Thriller were my 4th grade soundtrack.

Side-note #2: How did Frank Beard all of a sudden become a great drummer for "La Grange"?

dleone, Wednesday, 14 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

four years pass...
So classic it hurts.

I'd never heard the PSB story before, Ned. That sort of blows my mind.

Anyway, "Calling for someone like you/I just wanna do love to" from "I Need You Tonight" is one of the best booty call lines ever recorded. The rest is unintentionally anti-intellectually brilliant, as well. It's probably the best full album of Gibbons' guitar work in the whole ZZ Top catalogue.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 22 April 2007 08:07 (seventeen years ago) link

guitar solo at the end of "Sharp Dressed Man" = teh awesome

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 22 April 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I need to hear this whole album. All I've heard is the obvious: "Gimme All Your Lovin'," "Sharp Dressed Man" (both of which I like), and "Legs" (which I don't-like).

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 22 April 2007 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link

The combination of dance beats and traditional rock'n'roll worked very well on this album (and also on followup "Afterburner")

Geir Hongro, Monday, 23 April 2007 08:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought ZZ Top broke up after Deguello.

Bill Magill, Monday, 23 April 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

GODDAMN THIS SOUNDS SO GOOD TODAY especially the "she likes cocaaaaaine" line in "Got Me Under Pressure."

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

If you like this album and didn't pick up the remaster job from last year, do it. Unlike most of them, which are just crappy "pushing the levels into the red" hack jobs, this is a really good remastering job. The synths are pulled right up to the front and really sort of make these songs 3-D now. Also, it's got the original album version of "Legs" which disappeared altogether after the first pressing in 1983.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/559894_10152590339935327_1290916434_n.jpg

Ardent Studios reported yesterday on FB that TODAY marks the 30th Anniversary of the release of Eliminator. I recently rediscovered the album via the remaster Johnny wrote about above. I just love how (from a composition standpoint) "I Need You Tonight" could work as an amazing Hi-Records slow jam, just as "If Could Only Flag Her Down" could have a T-Bone Walker or Johnny "Guitar" Watson dance floor filler from the 50s.

Vol. 3: The Life & Times of E. "Boom" Carter (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 23 March 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for the heads up about the anniversary. I will now commence listening to this over and over for the next two days.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 23 March 2013 22:30 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

My wife, when "Legs" came on the radio: "I wonder if when they wrote this ZZ Top thought the radio would still be playing it in 30 years. I also wonder if they thought people would be listening to it in flying cars."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link

Your wife seem intersting.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

(for real, tho, that's funny)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link

They were way ahead of y'all on the 'flying car' thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKJymx2KDWo

Incident At Spanish Harlem (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 July 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

Can't stop looking up guys in their rec rooms recreating Eliminator on their synthesizers/sequencers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8dxbh5raak

(^ First 90 seconds or so..)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LlY6S6oSvc

Look out Donald!

And then there's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLG85bgpjW4

I just want to project this on to the side of my house somehow.

pplains, Sunday, 22 November 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link

THUG : track has a bass line worthy of love from any 80s era shriekback fan.

mark e, Thursday, 26 November 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link

ohhh yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X1E33YtbbM

brimstead, Thursday, 26 November 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

i want that painting to be the first thing people see when they walk into my home

brimstead, Thursday, 26 November 2015 19:47 (eight years ago) link

due to a need to have something fun and groovy, i have been hammering the recent boxset the last few days.
have really enjoyed discovering both the early boogie grooves and the overplayed hi-tech 80s productions (hello sputnik !).
subsequently, i picked up the rubin produced album, la futura, today.
damn, it's good. really really good.
oh, and yes, the guitars on the mescalero album are seriously dirty.
bottom line : having denied myself for years re the simple pleasures of this band, i have had to accept that i love the bands use of old blues guitars-n-riffs and modern production.

mark e, Thursday, 26 November 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link

six years pass...

This thread on the Hoffman forums is VERY ENLIGHTENING re: Eliminator. Gibbons fucked this guy over!

https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/welcome-linden-hudson-of-zz-top-fame.1112917/

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

Also features a very funny antidote about ZZ Top's drum samples and Ministry!

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

Wow, that thread is nuts.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

Hudson has dropped a couple of the demos he did with Billy in different spots on the web--they sound alot like Big Black!

Total dud. As I said in another ZZ Top thread, it's difficult to think of a band that jumped the shark harder than these guys.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

ya wow these are awesome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QZ8WUTaS18

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:41 (one year ago) link

Just realized that Al Jourgensen borrowed Billy's vocal FX for a lot of Ministry.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

this is like the 5th best top album but it aint no dud it kicks fuckin ass

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

It's not my favorite ZZ Top music but it's not a bad reinvention either, far from it.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

The best I can say about it is that it didn't suck as much as the one after it did.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link

The irony is that the only member of ZZ Top who didn’t play on Eliminator is named Frank Eliminator.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link

... who also had a secretary named Bernadette!

pplains, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

(that was a good one, tteg. i can't compete.)

pplains, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

"Recycler? I hardly know her!"

Anybody who doesn't like Eliminator is out of their fuckin' mind.

Anybody who likes any of the albums they released between Eliminator and La Futura is also insane, of course.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 01:20 (one year ago) link

My ranking:

tres hombres
tejas
rio grande
deguello
eliminator

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 02:54 (one year ago) link

i had to dig this up re: ministry, remembered reading it awhile back, Gibbons was asked to name ten records that changed his life

Ministry - The Land of Rape and Honey

Al Jorgensen is a guy whose commitment is total and this is the album where he really found his footing. It paves the way to the possibilities offered by it’s rich and dark, industrial approach. The wicked application of hands-on electronics on that excursion are most substantive. What can I say? I’m a fan.

https://www.loudersound.com/features/zz-tops-billy-gibbons-the-10-records-that-changed-my-life

omar little, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 02:59 (one year ago) link

Tarfumes, thanks for a huge lol on a grim election night.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 04:24 (one year ago) link

Definitely grim news in their home state of Texas. I can't believe people keep voting for these people after all the shitty things they've done in the past term alone.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

"We like sitting in the cold dark and getting shot at!"

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:53 (one year ago) link

Wow Billy's albums list is cool

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 20:01 (one year ago) link

Found this cool thread with alot of comments by Terry Manning from Argent Studios on working on all of the ZZ Top albums they recorded (which is really most of the really good ones).

http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/mv/msg/3849/0/0/0/

― earlnash, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

This old thread thanks to the Internet Wayback Machine is still out there and kind of gives a look at the same record through Terry Manning's memory. I put it here as ILMusic does it's Roshomon look at ZZ Top's Eliminator.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110123215118/http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/mv/msg/3849/0/0/0/

earlnash, Thursday, 10 November 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link


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