"If only more strippers voted." - the Hard Rock and Hair Metal tracks poll nominations thread (not a current poll - just random hair metal chat)

Too soon? I don't know. Some vague rules for defining what we're after here (although I'm not a professional hair metal historian so this is open for discussion):

1.) Blues-based rock and roll.
2.) Created between the mid-70s and 1993 (release date of The Spaghetti Incident, which slammed the door on the whole enterprise AFAIC).
3.) By performers wearing makeup/hairspray/spandex/leather/gypsy scarves and jewelry
4.) Probably been heard in one or more of the following: strip club/tilt-a-whirl/pool hall/Camaro.

I don't really plan on doing an albums poll.

Oh, and some basic noms, just to get it going:

Warrant - Down Boys
Motley Crue - Wild Side
Van Halen - Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love
Poison - Talk Dirty to Me
Kix - Cold Blood

Are hair metal haters allowed to take part?

If so

Hanoi Rocks - Tragedy
Hanoi Rocks - Don't Never Leave Me
Hanoi Rocks - Motorvatin'
Hanoi Rocks - Mental Beat
Hanoi Rocks - Until I Get You

Redd Kross - Zira (call Out My Name)

Oh yeah, man - do this. I'm probably not like, ILM's #1 hair metal superfan or anything.

You should do an albums poll, it will satisfy those who didn't like the results in the alltime poll.

I really care more about individual tracks than albums. I mean, I have zero emotional investment in listening to an entire hair metal album and can probably only remember the details of half a dozen or so from when I listened as a kid. If someone else wants to do it, that's fine though.

Yeah, I'm on board with tracks only.

Kiss - Black Diamond
Whitesnake - Lovehunter
Cheap Trick - Surrender

*PROTO HAIR METAL*

Proto is good. Proto is totally cool.

Ratt - You're In Love
Motley Crue - Live Wire
Pet Hate - The Bride Wore Red
Van Halen - Jamie's Cryin'
Nelson - (Can't Live Without Your) Love and Affection
Helix - Rock You
Triumph - I Live For The Weekend
Loverboy - Lovin' Every Minute Of It

Loverboy - Lovin' Every Minute Of It

I didn't realize it at the time, but this totally rides Def Leppard's jock pretty hard.

Def Leppard - Pour Some Sugar On Me

Strippers fave! Apparently.

Cinderella - Nobody's Fool
Cinderella - Night Songs
Cinderella - Somebody Save Me
Ratt - Round and Round
Ratt - Slip of the Lip
Ratt - Dance
Ratt - Wanted Man
Kingdom Come - Get it On ← still hilarious to me that they absolutely denied Zeppelin was an influence.
Accept - Balls to the Wall
Accept - Love Child
Scorpions - Rock You Like a Hurricane
Scorpions - No One Like You
Dirty Looks - It's Not the Way You Rock
Lillian Axe - Misery Loves Company
Dokken - It's Not Love
Dokken - In My Dreams
Dokken - Prisoner
Quiet Riot - Metal Health
Quiet Riot - Cum on Feel the Noize
Quiet Riot - The Wild and the Young
Night Ranger - When You Close Your Eyes
Night Ranger - Sister Christian
AC/DC - If You Want Blood
AC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
AC/DC - Highway to Hell
AC/DC - Hells Bells
AC/DC - You Shook Me All Night Long
AC/DC - Back in Black
AC/DC - Who Made Who
Tesla - Rock Me to the Top
Tesla - Modern Day Cowboy
Tesla - Hang Tough
Tesla - Yesterdaze Gone
Tesla - Makin' Magic
Tesla - Lady Luck
Tesla - Man Out Of Time Edison's Medicine
Def Leppard - Foolin'
Def Leppard - Photograph
Def Leppard - Animal
Def Leppard - Armageddon It
Def Leppard - Women
Def Leppard - Stand Up, Kick Love Into Motion
Def Leppard - Heaven Is
Def Leppard - Bringin' on the Heartbreak

Wendy O. Williams - It's My Life

Haha! I knew you'd bring the noms.

Krokus - Heat Strokes
Starz - Cherry Baby
Pat Benatar - Shadows Of The Night
X Japan - Endless Rain (token visual kei nomination)
Y&T - Mean Streak

Mechanical Resonance has always been the Tesla album that I stan for the hardest, but when I got to really looking at the songs, I realized The Great Radio Controversy has a lot more standouts.

This thread needs some pics :

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/10077403/Dokken.jpg

http://www.thegreat80s.com/images/Bands/ratt.jpg

http://melodicrockconcerts.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/07loverboy.jpg

http://media.hamptonroads.com/media/content/hamptonroads/2006/11/warrant512.jpg

http://www.heavyharmonies.com/bandpics/winger.jpg

http://www.atomicned.com/wp-content/images/2007/whitelion.jpg

http://www.heavyharmonies.com/bandpics/lillianaxe.jpg

http://api.ning.com/files/BXzlIUvHtnSpbfaeCNmpBakHr-XLCxzkxRF4zWbHUwtxmFMBIUeuAaHx2M7LRyF**dK2U2UtwW42fAJc3aHl41z3T4OQIBf5/KingdomComeBandPic.jpg

http://manganimemty.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/x_japan_pic2.jpg

http://eghts.com/files/2010/07/cinderella.jpg

http://i2.kickasstorrents.com/artists/4769532.jpg

http://groups.ultimate-guitar.com/profile_mojo_data/8/4/9/7/849776/pics/_c631210_image_0.jpg

Kiss - Crazy Crazy Nights
Kiss - Let's Put the X in Sex
Kiss - Tears Are Falling
Kiss - Lick it Up
Skid Row - 18 & Life
Skid Row - I Remember You
Guns 'N Roses - any and every thing on Appetite for Destruction

Alice Cooper - Poison

Bang Tango - Someone Like You

http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/uploads/vince_neil_dui.bmp
http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/exposedpantera7.jpg
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:-rcAmOGTIkE4_M:http://recordgeek1.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/glam_pantera.jpg&t=1

Motley Crue - Girls Girls Girls
Slaughter - Up All Night
Whitesnake - Here I Go Again
Warrant - Cherry Pie
Jackyl - The Lumberjack

All eras of Pantera are absolutely gross.

agreed

Van Halen - Drop Dead Legs
Dokken - Into the Fire
Def Leppard - High 'n' Dry
Little Dolls - Ozzy
Fantasy - Aldo Nova
Electric Eye - Judas Priest
Say What You Will - Fastway

Sorry, I got my band names and song titles screwed up:

Van Halen - Drop Dead Legs
Dokken - Into the Fire
Def Leppard - High 'n' Dry
Ozzy Ozbourne - Little Dolls
Aldo Nova - Fantasy
Judas Priest - Electric Eye
Fastway - Say What You Will

All eras of Pantera are absolutely gross.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, August 20, 2010 10:38 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
agreed

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, August 20, 2010 10:41 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It's great that neither of you guys like metal.

Pantera was the worst thing to happen to metal.

Motley Crue - Shout at the Devil
Motley Crue - Danger
Motley Crue - Bastard
Motley Crue - Kickstart My Heart
Motley Crue - Don't Go Away Mad
Van Halen - Unchained
Van Halen - Dance the Night Away
Van Halen - Why Can't This Be Love
AC/DC - Thunderstruck
AC/DC - You Shook Me All Night Long
Ozzy Osbourne - No More Tears

At last, a poll in which this can feature ...

Mama's Boys - Needle in the Groove

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWsWRF3cY64

Loudness -- Rock n Roll Crazy Nights

You are the hero TONIGHT

I always liked the 85 re-recorded version of "Needle in the Groove." They had moved past Lizzy into full hair metal production style.

My Mama's Boys jam was "Hard 'N Loud"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5AYV3LAlwA

"We like it hard 'n loud (we love it hard 'n loud) because we're young and proud"

awesome poll idea, excited about this

David Lee Roth - Yankee Rose

David Lee Roth - Just Like Paradise
David Lee Roth - Perfect Timing

Sweet - Fox on the Run
KISS - Christine Sixteen
The Runaways - Cherry Bomb
Cheap Trick - Auf Wiedersehen
Alice Cooper - No More Mr. Nice Guy
Quiet Riot - Metal Health

no zep, sabbath , deep purple or rainbow yet?

I think people should be very conscientious about which zep, sabbath, etc. etc. tunes are nominated. They will be subject to veto if they are some shit about Satan, fairies, elves, orcs, whatever.

Such songs should probably be limited themselves to such subject matter as "giving you every inch of my love" or "owning and operating a motor vehicle"

It does say "hard rock" in the thread title. They all qualify under that surely?

^ watch this guy, he'll be nomming the Manics next

Black Sabbath and certain aspects of LZ got their due in the metal poll.

its the poll runners choice.

i think the # of shared tracks will be relatively small and those tracks will be mostly so great that it would be silly to exclude them

did strippers strip to it? I'm guessing that will be his criteria.

Vain - No Respect

jeez, nevermind guys, it was just a suggestion to keep there from being two polls with really similar results. Although I guess by the time this one comes around, the balls poll will be a few years past.

yeah by the time it has happened people will have forgotten about the 70s rock tracks poll

and the time will be ripe for me to re-poll REM in an open-nomination format!

lol @ AG being all "yup, it'll be a while since you guys will be waiting your turn in accordance with rules that clearly don't apply to me"

nice try

why should rules he or others had no input in implementing in the first place apply to him or anyone else?

not in the strip club, guys.

yeah keep the thread for what it is

it wasn't a "try" at anything, i know nothing i can say would ever have any effect on the Pollgerian Steamroller, but sure i'll keep it off this thread

i'm trying to think of any repeated behavior on ilx as pathetic as some dude's 'my heavens! a poll!' on nearly every damn poll on this board. does it ever occur to you that if you and yr dork bros hadn't spent so many years slowly killing every kind of ilm thread you do enjoy (ie 'let's sift thru what remains of dead genres like hip-hop and alt-rock') that you might get more out of the eighteen hours a day you spend on ilx? why the fuck should ag care that you hate him and his threads? and why do the mods tolerate a poster stalking and repeatedly harrassing another poster for no reason like this? good to know you'll keep it off 'this thread' though, maybe try to keep it off this board while you're at it. don't you have kids for fucks sake?

Not really seeing the "stalking" personally, and right now balls you seem way more heated up than some dude. But I am one of the "dork bros" who loves all the alt-rock threads so YMMV may vary. I do personally think that since there DOES exist the "order and timing" thread then running other ballot polls in parallel, while not really a violation of any particular rule or principle, does seem kinda annoying, like the collective generally is on board with the "order and timing" system to avoid there being eighty polls at once. I don't mind it once in a while for a big cross-artist, "genre" type poll, personally - that's not too much for me to keep up with. But I get the idea of wanting to rein it in a little and I don't think that makes somebody "pathetic."

"YMMV may vary"? okay, def time to get out of the house and face the hurricane

how's life asked not to do this in this thread so w/e i'm good

casino no offense but you have no idea wtf you're talking about and this doesn't involve you. now go listen to yr hard rock (ie wings) and punk (ie tom petty).

why should rules he or others had no input in implementing in the first place apply to him or anyone else?

― balls, Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:21 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dude, if i didn't know you IRL i would probably find that way more offensive and uncalled-for, and/or FP, you need to chill out

just curious why continued harrassment of ag by some dude and others is ok but 'clutter' on ilm (defined as 'o no there are threads on ilm i'm not interested in!') is an urgent matter that must be attended to

1) not seeing the harassment

2) issue is not clutter but:
a) consensus in the public realm of ILX as a commons
b) sense shared by some (perhaps not all!) posters that the value of ballot polls is for people who are interested in that music but don't know anything about it, therefore it is nice to be able to actually keep up with the threads to get new recommended listening (as i have for example from the hard rock spotify playlist, so that i can diversify my tastes beyond their apparently unacceptable bounds)
c) civility vs. taking something that was a sincere, i think mild procedural suggestion on my part and turning up the knob to flaming/yelling/Making It Personal, yes some dude called out AG by name but i think your response is super way out of proportion

consensus in the public realm of ILX as a commons - this has never existed btw beyond obv 'dealing w/ openly racist posts/posters' or 'posters hacking the coding of the board' and tbh there wasn't even a consensus in those cases

doctor casino im afraid you're just being caught in the crossfire from fallout in a couple of other threads.I dont think you're being accused of anything.

But really dont continue it here the polls threads should be fun.

I was gonna nominate some hanoi rocks but it appears I already did that 2 years ago!

also i think if a poster admits openly trolling multiple threads by another poster and admits to specifically targeting that poster as some dude has done (although he's not going to do it anymore. on this thread.) and that's harrassment and the poster targeted is genteel and blameless as ag it's pathetic.

balls can keep pissing on me if he wants but i had been pretty good about not even looking at either of your current polls much less posting on them in however many weeks since my last word on the subject so i'm not sure what we're even talking about

like yeah i'd have been better off not saying anything on any thread and my fault for bringing it up on here but fair enough, lesson learned

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll3s0i7Jjw1qi4ubuo1_500.jpg

http://cdn103.iofferphoto.com/img3/item/474/656/552/l_outrageous-strip-revue-1987-hot-sexy-80-s-strippers-fe9c.jpg

I have lots of hard-zinging responses to much of the above, but i will concede that this really isn't the thread for it, and that i may well be ignorant of a scorched-earth campaign by some dude, and balls probably does have a better handle than I do on message-board civility so ehh, let's either get back to the strippers or call it a night. wish me luck with the storms y'all, i'mma go bike up amsterdam to max caffe, if any of y'all are NYCers and would like to resolve this through thumb-wrestling

xxpost that kind of sums it up too i think!

http://bubblegumculture.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/lilo-thumb-420x517.jpg?w=500

good luck usa casino

good luck all of you with the storms!

hey how's life can you find any 80s strippers named sandy? there had to have been hundreds

change it to 'sandi' and we're talking thousands

http://d1nx6mcwdpv1xd.cloudfront.net/images/fleshbot/2008/07/2008_07_18_sandykane.jpg

: )

what would the most common stripper names be?

Can't wait to finally vote in this poll!!

This poll's still a year or more out probably, but I think when I get back to it, I'm not gonna veto anything, so if anyone wants to vote for like, gene loves jezebel or manic street preachers, go for it. In the meantime, I've been catching up with some of the suggestions from upthread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEbbE1U3R1A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBiuN6HIypY

Forgot about this one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdpMx0-AlDs

Hahaha, this sucks! I don't think I ever heard House of Lords while they were out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMchbwtTkVI

This is the longest song I've ever heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kad4tnx4Oa8

This will be here before we know it. Better brush up on Slave Raider:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdwRNama9EA

I never heard that Dirty Looks album, but I loved the one that came out before it. xp

Good to know! Will investigate. I remember seeing an ad for the screw one in some magazine when I was a kid, but I don't think it ever turned up at my Sam Goody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaRNewUXsjw

"shooby-dooby-do-wah!" oh, this is great! :D

Fortunately this one's on Spotify. Turn of the Screw isn't, though, so I might never hear it.

Mechanical Resonance has always been the Tesla album that I stan for the hardest, but when I got to really looking at the songs, I realized The Great Radio Controversy has a lot more standouts.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, August 20, 2010 4:03 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I gotta confess, this is the kind of the post that makes ILM "worth it". like I was just wondering, "who in the 2010s stans for Tesla" & I found my answer. love will find a way.

(was gonna talk about "Love Song" & its ur-Zep structure but it's more fun to think about Tesla standom, which I have like 100% respect for, rock on)