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I can't believe it. This has not yet been done. I don't know them very well. I have two albums which I rather like (or maybe liked, didn't listen to them for ages), a Live and Filth Pig. They are not their best I was told. So what are the ultimate industrial heavy metal albums by Ministry? And which ones belong into the bin?

― alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

land of rape and honey and a mind is a terrible thing to taste are the ones though (of course) my favourite ministry record is the pre guitar adrian sherwood produced synth dub noise masterpiece twitch.

big sexy land and you goddamn son of a bitch by revolting cocks are essential too.

― stirmonster, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Land of Rape and Honey seconded, thought it's not quite so heavy metal...more on the industrial side of things. I don't quite like Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste quite so much because it sounds pretty sterile, production-wise. I'm actually really fond of Psalm 69, because even though it's a bit dumb, it sounds really amazing cranked up, it provides a nice balance between live guitar and sequencing, and it's got that great Gibby guest performance on "Jesus Built My Hot Rod", still one of the most rippin' songs from the early 90s.

― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Also, I know it's not really cool to say so, but I actually don't mind With Sympathy...yeah, it's pretty wimpy synth pop, but considering the other synth pop that was on major labels at the same time, you know what? it's not that bad. I actually used to really love the single "Revenge" when it first came out, because it sure beat the crap out of the other stuff I was hearing on the radio at the time.

― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

No one should ever apologize for liking _With Sympathy_. It's a fantastic synth-pop album and "Revenge", "Should Have Known Better", "Effigy (I'm Not A)", "Here We Go" and "I Wanted To Tell Her" are all classic.

_Twitch_ is their best album by a long shot, even though it's much more in the dance-industrial vein of things than their more recent stuff. I recently dug _The Land Of Rape And Honey_ out of storage and was blown away by how evily wonderful it is (especially "Flashback"). _A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste_ has its high points ("Burning Inside", "The Angel Song", "Faith Collapsing", "Thieves", "Breathe", "So What"), but also contains the absolutely unforgivable "Cannibal Song". After a brief infatuation with "N.W.O." I completely lost interest in the band about the time _Psalm 69_ came out.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

They should've ceased and desisted after PSALM 69, or at least changed gears radically. THE LAND OF RAPE AND HONEY is their finest hour, I'd wager (before they decided they wanted to be Killing Joke). After their transformation into a metal band, they merely treaded water.

I too love WITH SYMPATHY, but I'd sooner steer you in the direction of "No Name No Slogan" by Acid Horse (Ministry with Cabaret Votaire), "Rubber Glove Seduction" by PTP (ditto), the fantastic "I Will Refuse" by Pailhead (Al Jourgensen & Ian MacKaye of Minor Threat/Fugazi) and the whomptastic "Apathy" by 1000 Homo DJ's (Al again).

Revolting Cocks-wise, I'd opt for BEERS STEERS + QUEERS every time.

― Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

indeed, no apologies required for 'with sympathy'. i always forget about it as in my mind it's a completely different band but it is great pop. in fact, i'm going to dig it out now.

also wonderful are the 'all day', 'haloween (remix)' and 'nature of love' 12"s on wax trax where you can hear the development from synth pop to gargantuan industrial drums taking shape.

― stirmonster, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

No one should ever apologize for liking _With Sympathy_.

The videos for that album, another matter entirely. ;-)

Gregg Araki, of all people, turned me onto Ministry in 1988 via an LA Weekly review of Rape and Honey. "All right," I thought, so I picked it up. "EURGH! What is all this noise! Pass." But I didn't get rid of it, and it slowly dug into my system, so by the time Mind came out I was well primed. Missed that tour, unfortunately, but did finally get to see them on Lolla 92, which was fucking goddamn fantastic (and though Gibby joined them onstage for "TV Song," they did *not* do "Jesus Built My Hot-Rod," the evening's one disappointment -- great rampage through "Supernaut" made up for it, though). After that, they spiralled off into not much, but Linger Fickin' Good had its points on the RevCo front.

What's wrong with "Cannibal Song," though? It's just them trying to be PiL with Chris Connelly as John Lydon -- seems to work.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

What's wrong with "Cannibal Song," though? It's just them trying to be PiL with Chris Connelly as John Lydon -- seems to work.

Replace "work" with "fail utterly, making you want to build a time machine expressly so that you could go back to the delivery room and punch all of the mothers in the face at the moment when these tools were born" and you're approaching the level of disdain I have for that song. It's a static dirge with frightmarish vocals that seems to go out of its way to be stupid and annoying.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

("the mothers" should be "their mothers"; I don't hate the song enough to run around smacking every single mother on Earth in the face as they give birth, as absurd as that image is)

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

So what you're saying is you don't like the song. I think I'm getting that now. ;-)

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

The song has no energy and no point. The drums are muted, the singing is a passable Lydon impersonation but about twelve times more irritating, the music is practically non-existent, AND it has the misfortune of following "Burning Inside", which may well be the best of their aggro singles.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

You forgot "Never Believe"...

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

I did, didn't I? Shows how well that song imprinted on my mind...

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Actually, that's a big problem I have with _A Mind..._; for every song I think is fantastic, there's another one which is criminal or completely forgettable. The live versions on _In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up_ are much better.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Don't worry, I had to check the AMG to remember what it was called myself! I remember when I first heard it thinking somebody had finally done something a little bit different with orchestral blasts (well, sorta).

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

There are orchestra blasts in it? I just remember being excited by it for the first 10 seconds and then skipping over it.

― Dan Perry, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

that is very true about "a mind..." it's true with most ministry projects really.

it's also a shame that jourgensen ruined most skinny puppy tracks he touched.

the "incase you didn't feel like showing up" video, is that the one with ogre and jello in it?

― dyson, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Yup, that's it. Dan: listen to the start of the song again, they're used as this weird strident rhythm.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

More votes for The Mind... and Rape & Honey. Though they do have fair amounts of filler/boredom (self-criticism is not one of Jourgensens virtues, apparently), as a whole these albums work very very well. The Dark Side and Filth Pig albums are 90% filler material IMO. Going through the motions, etc. I don't know where people get the "heavy metal" thing from, apart from the odd sampled metal riff I can't hear much of that in Ministry...

― Siegbran Hetteson, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

I don't think Ogre is in the vid, think its Chris Connelly. There was a period in the 90's when it was quite hard to tell all the strung out, black dread locked industrial guys apart. Jello does come out and do a version of the Pledge of Allegiance that George W. would probably not approve.

― bnw, Wednesday, 31 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Listened to 'Cannibal Song' quite loud on headphones last night (well 2am today really) to check what the fuss was about - yeah it's a pretty mundane thing, but it does have one feature I'd never noticed before and which is brilliant: it has samples in it of that 'caw-caw' noise that crows make, one of my favourite noises, er, 'EVAH!' - as they say round here....

I really like about half of each of the _Land_ and _Mind_ albums - but in spite of liking NWO I never bought _Psalm_ : is it much the same as those 2, or were they getting more Metally and less Machiney ?

― Ray M, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

I liked them crow noises as well. More metally, yeah, but with enough mechanical kick in most of the songs to satisfy, so I say give it a whirl.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

I agree about people are saying about Revco, Ministry & Pailhead. I would add that there is some good music on the Lard album "Last Temptation of Reid". I think the song "Forkboy" by Lard is the best thing that Jello Biafra did outside the Dead Kennedys.

The problem with Ministry is that they started making too much money, which probably led to too much drugs.

― earlnash, Thursday, 1 August 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

were they getting more Metally and less Machiney
They were getting more rock than metal at that point. Psalm 69 really went for a more groovy, rock'n roll feel. It works for the most part, but I can see why it's not everybody's favourite - largely because of that approach, it lacks depth.

― Siegbran Hetteson, Friday, 2 August 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

Couldn't help noticing they have a new one out, ANIMOSITITISOMINA (animosity forward and backward without the y's......rathe inexplicably). I really can't imagine it's going to be wildy different from their last three records. Shouldn't they just fuckin' hang it up? Or have I simply just 'grown out' of them?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 15 February 2003 12:27 (10 years ago) Permalink

I think the answer to both questions is "Yes", Alex. At least that's how I've felt for some time now.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 15 February 2003 22:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

the new one sounds like psalm 69 era ministry its pretty damn good

― chaki (chaki), Saturday, 15 February 2003 22:20 (10 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

What was "the new one" in Feb 2003?

― Klaus Darko (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

Um.

― Dan (LOOK UP TWO POSTS FFS) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

Never mind, Adam, Dan. He was only gang-raped by flemish leathermen last night. He'll be back to sorts any hour now.

― dali madison's nut (donut), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

oh you mean ANIMOSITITISOMINA?

I thought that was a joke.

― Klaus Darko (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

Apparently it was a good album!

― Dan (Still Not Interested In Them Anymore) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

Is it industrial day in Adam's skull? Are the robots in his head going "MESMERIZED BY THE FORCES OF HATE"?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

chugga chugga chugga ANIMOSITISOMINA

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

Al is one of these three. You figure out which one.

― dali madison's nut (donut), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

Clearly Al is the chick on the right.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

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Ministry `06 (with Tommy from Prong and Raven from KJ)

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

their last album (Houses of the Molé) is acually pretty good!

― latebloomer: Deutsch Bag (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 21:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

"Co-headlining" Ministry/RevCo tour in '06! I am, as they say, so there.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

prng dood is also in danzig. that guys making bank.

― howell huser (chaki), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

prng dood is also in danzig. that guys making bank.

Tommy Victor did play in Danzig as well, yeah, but I think that was more out of financial necessity.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

what is this, the start of the big industrial dance revival? I was in a record shop last week flipping through compilations of uh, currently hip - or so they claim - records in certain cities, NYC, London, and the Paris one had stuff like Front 242 on it.

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 23:11 (7 years ago) Permalink

That's the Black Strobe Time Out Paris mix!

― Klaus Darko (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 23:12 (7 years ago) Permalink

And the London one sucks balls!

― Klaus Darko (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 23:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

the London one is TERRIBLE

and I don't get it- I saw Lazarus live over the summer and his set was 100% bouncey electro-house....

― jsoulja (jsoulja), Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

"Co-headlining" Ministry/RevCo tour in '06! I am, as they say, so there.

"The REVOLTING COCK."

"Heh heh, yeah, must be some strip show.. y' know.. with strippers."

― dali madison's nut (donut), Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

I guess this is where I say that "Cracking Up" is a grossly underrated later-era Revco song that directly lifts the opening guitar riff from ACR's "Shack Up", loops it, and puts it behind a proto-DFA bass/disco beat combo.. and adds drug samples and Chris Connelly clucking all over it.

― dali madison's nut (donut), Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up is quite loud.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 03:47 (7 years ago) Permalink

And says "Fuck" often. We used it to drive out customers at closing time at a Mexican restaurant I worked at once...

― js (honestengine), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

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my favorite ministry album would prob be Rabies by Skinny Puppy when I really think about it

Says more about the quality of Skinny Puppy's worst album etc

― Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Never liked Ministry AT ALL but recently really really got into Twitch

― Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

ya Twitch is bad ass

― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

Twitch was always my favorite.

And xxpp -- I obviously wanted to include Big Black, but couldn't, since they're not on Rhapsody (which I assume was Albini's decision -- his other bands aren't on there, either.)

― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

i like twitch a bunch. and i liked the first album and singles too. and i think land of rape & honey is the last really cohesive/good slbum he did. but there is good stuff on the albums that came after.

― scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

chuck, isn't there a way to add this song to your column? 1986!

― scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

feel like half of wax trax could have been directly inspired by ex slacks. and the other half by the country of belgium.

― scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is known as the "Ministry Truthbomb"

― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

I feel like Psalm 69 is more the departure into undifferentiated, shitty industrial metal. Mind is still pretty good. Except the rap song.

― Will the waveform be unbroken? (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like "Burning Inside" and the final two instrumentals and I can enjoy "Thieves" if I'm in the right mood. The rest of the album doesn't grab me at all.

― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 05:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

gosh.
did not expect to see AoC in the list.
and so glad to see some love for Wiseblood .. i love that collab ..

― mark e, Friday, 24 February 2012 16:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wiseblood is awesome in every way, as is twitch, which i am listening to right now.

but guys
i listened to filth pig and sorta pretended it was some unknown band and it wasnt totally awful for the first 2.5 songs and then it once again turned into an endless slog. i think my hate is diminished because knowing what i know now my expectations were v v low, vs when i bought it on release day and was pretty much slapped in the face with slow low droney

― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

ok there are literally no bad tracks on twitch. holy shit man, i gotta spend more time w/old stuff i love. its like all the best parts of front 242 and EBM with really great vocals.

― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Here's how good Twitch is: the worst song on it is "We Believe".

― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Saturday, 25 February 2012 02:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

I started with Psalm 69, so I still have a nostalgic attachment to it (got my first speeding ticket bc I was rocking out too hard to 'Scarecrow' & ignoring the speedometer)....but Twitch and Land of Rape and Honey are my older-wiser favorites :)

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 February 2012 03:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

I also see a bunch of Neubauten's "Yu-Gung" reflected back in Ministry, especially (for obvious reasons) the Sherwood remix. I also want to say there's some Slayer in there, but that may be the post-Psalm material.

― Sean Carruthers, Saturday, 25 February 2012 18:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

The singles from Psalm 69 are much better than the album tracks. The long versions of "Jesus Built My Hotrod," "N.W.O." and especially "Just One Fix" all crush the album versions.

― 誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 25 February 2012 19:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

I didn't know that about the other two songs! I had the Jesus maxi single for about half a year before the album came out and I remember being disappointed by the shorter Jesus and by TV II.

― beachville, Saturday, 25 February 2012 19:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

The "Just One Fix" single has an extended version of the song that's about eight minutes long, plus a track that's Ministry laying crunchy noises down behind William S. Burroughs for about five minutes.

― 誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 25 February 2012 20:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

don't see any big dropoff until after psalm 69, myself. came in on land of rape and honey (which i loved, headphone staple the year of its release), worked back to twitch, anticipated and loved both TMIATTT and psalm 69, though i definitely preferred the former to the latter. interest faded pretty quickly after that. 12" version of "jesus built my hot rod" is a blast.

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 February 2012 20:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

"These are sensations as hard to forget
As they are to control.
Drag racing."

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 February 2012 20:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

― beachville, Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

lol, i'd always skip that part, or better yet, just start the song over. must have listened to JBMHR like 20 times the day i bought it.

hey! listen, get this: nobody with a good car needs to worry about nothin', you understand?
yeah (hey!), i think i do
hey! listen, get this: nobody with a good car needs to be justified
and i'll tell you why...

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Saturday, 25 February 2012 21:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

The whole Big Stick Drag Racing Underground album is great for the Jesus Built My Hotrod samples/nitro feel, tho I don't think that single is on it.

― The Winged Devil Ape (Fizzles), Saturday, 25 February 2012 22:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

I have it on an LP that compiles 2 EPs I think - Drag Racing & Crack Attack. I think it's on Blast First? Or maybe Touch & Go.

― The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 25 February 2012 23:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

i don't think I ever bought psalm despite loving Land and Mind. I did eventually download it but it was years and years later. To me they kind of ended with Mind, which is best.

― akm, Sunday, 26 February 2012 16:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

This is still probably Ministry's weirdest video ever. The fact that they used the 12" version for the video -- all 3 minutes of intro On-U sound drums -- is part of it. The other major part is the surprise(?) ending at 6:15. This was a cornerstone track for me... part On-U Sound, part Einsturzende Neubauten, part Dead Or Alive.

― ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 06:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

I should have looked for that video earlier. (And hi there, of course!)

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 07:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Everyday Is Halloween" is the song that made me notice Ministry but "Over the Shoulder" is the song that made me LOVE them (specifically that 12" version)

― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

DEAD CATS HANGING FROM POLES

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

nobody with a good car needs to be justified

lol never realized this is from Hughes' Wise Blood before (such a great movie)

― Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

it is! love brad dourif so much in that movie. huston's though. john hughes' wise blood is a dream yet unfulfilled...

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 19:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Uhh

― this fucking guy that i speak to you about (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 04:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

whaaaat the fuck is that

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 04:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

New album, apparently. For some reason.

― this fucking guy that i speak to you about (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 04:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's the worst album I've heard this year so far.

― A. Begrand, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 05:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

it looks like it

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 05:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

It has to be bad. A Republican is currently not president.

― ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 08:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

Uhh. Al Jourgensen is slowly turning into Lisa Bonet's grandmother.

― benernienie taumaupin (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 09:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

I would like to hear the half-assed Killing Joke melodic bit in the chorus rescued from this song and put in a better one.

― benernienie taumaupin (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 09:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

From the cheap laughs department:

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:02 (11 months ago) Permalink

Top-rated YouTube commenter on 99 Percenters bringing harsh truths:

Wow.... Just.... Wow. Been a fan through all incarnations since '86. Seen them live a ton of times.. Probably my favorite band of all time. After watching this, ... I'm getting off the crazy train. I thought there were some good tracks on the album, but this just comes off as sheer fucking laziness. It was a great run Al, but please stay true to your word and put this band to bed. Fuck, I never thought I'd join the haters... But this does suck.

GunHed17 2 weeks ago 7

― Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:07 (11 months ago) Permalink

I have a copy of that doc that came out, "Fix" or "Fixed" or w/e...part of me is curious but the rest of me kinda knows this is a thing I probably don't need to watch

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 17:20 (11 months ago) Permalink

A lot of mid-80s industrial is pretty hard to listen to - not because it's too harsh or gritty in the intended way, but because it uses lame mid-80s drum machines and transposed, key-triggered samples.

It sounds like a lot of these bands thought they sounded edgy and counter-cultural, but in retrospect it all sounds like Anne Dudley playing hookey with Ferris Bueller.

― 3×5, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:37 (11 months ago) Permalink

what drum machines should they have been using instead? drum machines from the future?

― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 19:42 (11 months ago) Permalink

uhhhh Land Of Rape And Honey still pummels me in the face with "lame mid-80's drum machines" also 2) that's not the problem and b) RONG

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 20:57 (11 months ago) Permalink

i LOVE lame mid 80s drum machines.

― stirmonster, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 22:10 (11 months ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ministry-guitarist-mike-scaccia-dies-after-onstage-collapse-20121223

r.i.p.

― t_s (how's life), Sunday, 23 December 2012 20:10 (4 months ago) Permalink

Aww man. RIP. I was actually a fan of Rigor Mortis well before he joined Ministry, dude was pretty speedy.

― flared bass (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 23 December 2012 23:32 (4 months ago) Permalink

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