yeah i think that's more of a "whatevs man, we just care about the music"
― kanellos (gbx), Friday, 17 December 2010 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link
"and the Twitter account, admittedly we do care about that quite a lot too"
― some dude, Friday, 17 December 2010 14:17 (thirteen years ago) link
not gonna lie, they were probably sniping at us, cause you know, everybody who writes for p4k secretly wants to be on ilm
― dayo, Friday, 17 December 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe they already are ;)
― kanellos (gbx), Friday, 17 December 2010 14:26 (thirteen years ago) link
oh my *checks self in mirror, brushes hair*
― dayo, Friday, 17 December 2010 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
fennessey definitely has friends on ilm who help him keep tabs on when he's a punchline (hi, buddy!) but tbh i can't really imagine any of the Kanye Generation critic brigade who doesn't read the board regularly looking at this thread and sweating it.
― some dude, Friday, 17 December 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
someone's going to tell him he's a punchline today, right? I mean
Bearing witness to Kanye West's very public 2010 has featured many joys, none greater than watching everyone unspool his myriad updates, achievements, and indiscretions into piles of meaning.
So the album - which isn't worth trying to describe in a blurb declaring it the best of the year - is what everyone's obsessed about, but the greatest joy has been watching everyone else make "piles of meaning" out of all the shit Fennessey actually does list in detail?
― da croupier, Friday, 17 December 2010 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link
well unspooling Kanye's Twitter updates really is the best hobby anyone can ask for.
― some dude, Friday, 17 December 2010 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
Pitchfork announcing that the pinnacle of 2010 was following the obnoxious antics of a pop star seems like the definition of a shark-jump.
― da croupier, Friday, 17 December 2010 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link
I think that blurb is a direct troll to other music critics. It's terrible as a summation of the album except for in the most oblique of manners (ie, the album is about the dissection of Kanye's public persona) but it's genius in how riled up everyone else who writes (or wants to be a writer) will get reading it.
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Friday, 17 December 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^^ kinda what i meant by snide sniping
― dayo, Friday, 17 December 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Dada Twisted Fantasy
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 December 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link
if that was the goal, why not just post a dick pic?
― da croupier, Friday, 17 December 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
because they wanted bitching, not swooning
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Friday, 17 December 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
you know something about fennessy that i don't?
― da croupier, Friday, 17 December 2010 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Friday, December 17, 2010 9:58 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark
what other critics, though? there are 2 reviews on Metacritic that aren't green (7/10 and up): Lex's and something called "Dot Music"
― some dude, Friday, 17 December 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I think dayo is mostly right; he is trolling the people here.
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Friday, 17 December 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link
too bad for him i have "only god can troll me" tattooed across my belly in old english script
― in my world of Hmong ppl (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 December 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link
GOON LIFE
― The Reverend, Friday, 17 December 2010 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost
U LIE!
― natas, Friday, 17 December 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link
too bad for him i have "only god can troll me" tattooed across my belly in old english script― in my world of Hmong ppl (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, December 17, 2010 10:04 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
― in my world of Hmong ppl (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, December 17, 2010 10:04 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark
in a world of horrible meme tattoos i think this is one i could actually get behind
― kanellos (gbx), Friday, 17 December 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link
― The Reverend, Friday, December 17, 2010 10:06 AM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
that's on my knuckles
― in my world of Hmong ppl (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 December 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
in fennessey's defense, there's like really nothing left to be said about this record at this point
― larry longballs money (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 December 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
like if he's really concerned about the overly self-aware internet world, I'd rather have him be oblique where we have to fill in our own blanks rather than condescending
― larry longballs money (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 December 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link
ie, if we're talking about ILMers being the target audience, I assume anyone on this board can learn more about Kanye's record from Fennessey's anti-blurb than, say, the hyper entry-level school textbook-style "Suicide was a punk band from New York" things in the P4k 500 book
― larry longballs money (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 December 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
kudos to this blurb i say
― larry longballs money (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 December 2010 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah but even a lot of the REVIEWS (including Pitchfork's) go on and on about context before even talking about the songs on the record a little bit
― some dude, Friday, 17 December 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link
it's like "we already told you about Power and Runaway...and there are like 9 other songs here! just imagine!'
― some dude, Friday, 17 December 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link
if anything all the hype/"obnoxious antics/Twitter-feed/leaked tracks/silliness has made me profoundly disinterested in even bothering to listen to this album. which I have not yet done btw.
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 December 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
like I just don't find the narrative of pop-star-dissects-own-public-persona even remotely interesting. let me guess, fame is a terrible bitch goddess.
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
whiney, what would you assume an ILMer would learn about Kanye's record from this "anti-blurb"
― da croupier, Friday, 17 December 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Sort of but not really...? More like "I am a terrible dick, and that is why I'm famous and you aren't; ps suck all of my balls aw come back I didn't mean it"
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
"I am a terrible dick, and that is why I'm famous and you aren't"
weren't you the one saying there's absolutely no shades of celebration or bravado in "Runaway"?
― some dude, Friday, 17 December 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
"ps suck all of my balls aw come back I didn't mean it"
^ are you talking about kanye or my posting style
― larry longballs money (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
lol okay so slight variation - KANYE is a terrible bitch goddess. still not really interested.
xp
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
It's already been mentioned on the year-end list thread, but I think the Kanye mega-blurb on Cokemachineglow should be acknowledged here as well. http://www.cokemachineglow.com/feature/5816/top50albums-2010?pg=5
― da croupier, Friday, 17 December 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Near the end of his life Philip K. Dick started writing novels that mixed autobiography with science fiction with philosophical treatise as a way of showing what happens when a fiercely imaginative but broken and addiction-addled artist encounters what PKD called Hagia Sophia, “Holy Wisdom.” The artists reels and reels and then goes on creating within the language he’s fashioned for himself but using that language to translate for a new tongue. For PKD that meant some of the best and most profound novels of his career, novels like VALIS and The Transmigration of Timothy Archer. For Kanye it means MBDTF.
― da croupier, Friday, 17 December 2010 17:05 (thirteen years ago) link
okay now that just makes me angry
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
"i read books"
― larry longballs money (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:07 (thirteen years ago) link
beamer, betz or bentley
― larry longballs money (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:08 (thirteen years ago) link
“All of the Lights,” real talk, and the stars are melting because MBDTF gives them place in a celestial choir.
― larry longballs money (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
reads like a diss to me
― sugg knight (cozen), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
xxxps
maybe I just find breathless hyperbole irritating now that I'm an old man
― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
What makes you think I was talking about "Runaway"? I was thinking about "Gorgeous".
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
The overall arc of the album is "I'm awesome, you hate me, go suck it" slowly transforming into "wait, come back, I'm lonely, forgive me"
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
i actually liked that the pfork blurb was short -- not sure there was enough distance b/w this album & the year end list for there to have been 500 more words or w/e written about it -- if it came out in april, maybe -- i mean sean wrote that whole voice review, not sure what else he has left to say about it at this point
― return of the nakh (J0rdan S.), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link
i would've lol'd if they just said "Well, duh."
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Friday, December 17, 2010 12:11 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Friday, December 17, 2010 12:13 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah i don't know, was i suppose to assume you meant specifically "Gorgeous" because you mentioned his balls?
― some dude, Friday, 17 December 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
So because I say that is the vibe of the album as a whole, that means that every single song has the exact same theme?
Like seriously, try thinking.
― Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Friday, 17 December 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link