"devil in a new dress" is the real epic and it's as good as anything ye's ever done
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 November 2010 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link
This is his noodling album!! Why the fuck have mike dean toss in a fucking guitar solo in your sig with Raekwon? Jon brion would have been like uhhh let's call it a day
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't see the bfd about that song, and i'm as big a bink! stan as there is. (xpost)
― the pussy re-upholstery gang (some dude), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link
i didn't get the bfd about the good friday edition, but i think the way it goes from a simple soul sampling joint to a big ornamental thing is awesome -- i love when those guitars come in -- also ross kills that verse & ye spits a bit as well
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 November 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm not gonna defend "runaway" tho, that shit is lazy as all hell & was a huge letdown
"devil" is definitely one of the best tracks, just still waiting for it to sound more than just pleasant to me
― the pussy re-upholstery gang (some dude), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 02:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Devil in a new dress is NOT the epic, the centerpiece. Runaway is the thesis statement if you could suspend belief enough that there is actually a coherent one. Devil is a throwback it's pretty tight for the band feel but he didn't even co-produce it, mike dean did. "We major" is "Close to the Edge" compared to devil in a new dress
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:00 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't really care who did what -- if it's on the album it's on the album
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:02 (thirteen years ago) link
That song goes from the blueprint nostalgia to Rick Ross fronting the Mike Dean Band
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link
who did what isn't THAT important, but considering that "Flashing Lights" was my favorite on Graduation and he didn't produce that either, I'm not even sure how much i like Kanye as a producer anymore. once it becomes him just helming a production team and picking ideas, all he is is the arty Diddy.
― the pussy re-upholstery gang (some dude), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:03 (thirteen years ago) link
a diddling arty.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link
you could do a lot worse than being an arty diddy
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Ross's verse is rambling and forgettable and I love ross
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link
surfboards aren't you a huge ross stan? how is a dope ross verse over some nice live instrumental shit all of a sudden a bad thing to you?
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:05 (thirteen years ago) link
that's one of the best verses he's ever spit, you're nuts
Yeah there is a problem being the arty diddy: diddy makes weak ass music. The "Artinpeoples so loud people cant hear that they're basically just listening to pretty middle of the road shit for most of the album.
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Nah dude that verse is crap, I am a Rick Ross stan
Also, live instrumentation doesn't automatically mean it's genius.
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:13 (thirteen years ago) link
It's not like he got the Neville brothers to play on the track
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:13 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
well duh, that's not what i was saying
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link
oh man -- the Neville Bros
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Wait a few posts up the word artiness got motives with the word people somehow...something about it being loud i forget.
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
it's a nice build up i think, it feels like a developed idea -- building from a spare sample up into something more elaborate & ornamental -- bringing in the electric guitar to mimic the melody of the sample & going from there
i mean taste is taste re that ross verse but i'm not sure how you can like ross & not like that verse -- not sure what you're hearing
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Wait who produced Flashing Lights?
― wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:21 (thirteen years ago) link
i hear a verse that pretty much says nothing. he has a ton of verses like that of course, but this one is just like completely meandering. kanye's verse is prob the best moment of the album, it's beautiful.
"you love me for me could you be more phony?" dope.
and then ross just loses the point and talks about his money and cars and planes and drug trafficking exploits
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:22 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah who would've thought that rick ross would've rapped about his money and cars and planes and drug trafficking exploits
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:23 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah but that's what makes a song a song. instead of two different songs
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:24 (thirteen years ago) link
― wheezy f baby (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:21 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
Eric Hudson, did Omarion's "Entourage" and some other dope R&B shit
― the pussy re-upholstery gang (some dude), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link
kanye has his head so far up his ass he doesnt realize he used to make his guest rappers think so hard about what to write they actually rapped about that...like on we major
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:33 (thirteen years ago) link
do you not fuck with "drive slow" cuz paul wall comes in and raps about slabs and being posted up
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:33 (thirteen years ago) link
do you not fuck with "touch the sky" cuz lupe fiasco comes in and raps about mrs. butterworth as opposed to how he used to be broke
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:36 (thirteen years ago) link
lol dude if there is one song with a clear idea it's "drive slow"
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:37 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont know who the fuck cares what lupe says
i see what youre trying to do but
kanye;s verse and ross' verse on this particular song have nothing to do with each other
drive slow is about driving slow around your neighborhood so you can holler at girls. both verses. not gonna go back to touch the sky
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:39 (thirteen years ago) link
and nevermind thematic unity the way the song feels like it's over and then Ross just shows up feels very tacked on and poorly paced to me
― the pussy re-upholstery gang (some dude), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah but the point is that both ross & paul wall's verses in those songs are them on autopilot, but it's still TOP NOTCH autopilot in both instances -- i don't think it blunts the impact of either song
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:40 (thirteen years ago) link
― the pussy re-upholstery gang (some dude), Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:40 PM (15 seconds ago) Bookmark
this makes slightly more sense to me, esp because, you know, we heard the ross-less version, but i think it makes sense when he comes in -- they let the instrumentation build up a bit
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:41 (thirteen years ago) link
fuck it, i don't even have to analyze lupe's verse, that song was about come up int eh spot lookin extra fly
light subject matter, perfectly fine for a young rapper to come in a dazzle with wordplay and boasts
Devil is about loneliness and depression and emptiness and all the great shit we love about 2010 tragic kanye...
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link
J0rdan if Nuno Bettencourt played a dope guitar solo on the song would you say it belonged because it was dope or would you say nice guitar dude doesn't really belong on this song at all tho
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:43 (thirteen years ago) link
dude is there ever any point to your posts on this thread
― the pussy re-upholstery gang (some dude), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link
no
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link
except for that one about critical theory
DUDE. Kanye and Paul wall on "drive slow" have literally mirror image verses. That song is about one thing.
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link
T.I.'s verse on the video mix fits the theme really well too
― the pussy re-upholstery gang (some dude), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link
My point is that it's not just that Ross feels tacked on, he's just wrong whereas Paul wall was right for his feature
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i know, i was just chiming in with why it doesn't work for me. there are very few Ross verses where i can even remember what he said or what he's talking about.
― the pussy re-upholstery gang (some dude), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I THINK I'M BIG MEECH
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Who are we trying to fool. This is clearly not the 'Kid A' of our new decade.
― Moka, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah that's true but it's like always about the same shut so if you want to hear that it's tight
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:53 (thirteen years ago) link
That was to some dude.
There are is one line that kinda recalls kanye's verse
"stretch minousine sippin rosé all alone/ double headed monster with a mind of his own"
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link
I never needed acceptance from all you outsidersHad cyphers with Yeezy before his mouth wiredBefore his jaw shattered climbin' up the Lord's ladder
^^c'mon this is awesome
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 24 November 2010 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link