i'm not saying nobody should ever give something a 10.0 if they really feel it's warranted, I'm just saying that it doesn't seem warranted here and it seems to be done for reasons that are more insidious than just "fun"
― vodka loko lame (some dude), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
not saying kanye should be pfork's pitck bcuz of marketing, but bcuz its a record that hits a lot of aesthetic points for pfork's audience, btw -- that it 'makes sense' as a 10.0 record!
― smangs of new york (deej), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:31 (thirteen years ago) link
1o.0
― Noel 1 Silence 0 (blueski), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
but otoh not giving out 10.0's because you acknowledge that no piece of human art can attain perfection is grumpy old man shit & that handing out a 10.0 once in awhile is more fun
this this this
― based lord sotosyn (The Reverend), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:32 (thirteen years ago) link
"insidious"!
― based lord sotosyn (The Reverend), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
feels like maybe dyed-in-the-wool indies resent pitchfork for breaking its long 10.0 silence to celebrate a MAINSTREAM COMMERCIAL RAPPER — would've been okay if some out-of-nowhere dudes turned into 'the animal collective of 2k11' and made an album that is a testament to the relevance of the indie lifestyle
― underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
― vodka loko lame (some dude), Monday, November 22, 2010 11:31 AM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
ooooh what are these insidious, conspiratorial motives?? do tell
i mean do u really think most of pfork's staff doesnt like this record?
― smangs of new york (deej), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:33 (thirteen years ago) link
when will p4k reveal their evil plan?
― underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, November 22, 2010 11:33 AM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark
what hipster is willing to give a hipster musical plaudits of 10.0?? this seems more pforkian imo
― smangs of new york (deej), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
most of them prefer /\/\/\Y/\ secretly
― Noel 1 Kanye 10.0 (blueski), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Watch: Gorillaz Cover the xx
I think they just did
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
idgi thought this record was p.average. not reading this thread, is this the prevailing view? what to make sure I'm aligned w/the consensus.
should've called it 'long ass songs' tbqfh
― mo loko (cozen), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
xxxpost no the point is that pfork isn't hipster anymore — they're not interested in finding 'the obscure new thing' but in getting way to excited about the thing that everyone KNOWS is good — it's 'the new sincerity'
― underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
*way TOO excited; *kills self*
my favourite album of the 00s is only an 8.4
... which is? :)
― mo loko (cozen), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
lol dan
― based lord sotosyn (The Reverend), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link
no opinion on what 10 does or doesn't/should or shouldn't mean but fwiw all my shit deserves at least a 10, me and that dolphins band I've been telling you guys about. taking over in 2011 fyi
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:37 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^ OTM
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
the album has made pleasant background music for the last ~30 minutes of talking about the album — just sorta drifting off, tuning back in when it gets interesting
― underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
goats/dolphins '12
― based lord sotosyn (The Reverend), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Studio (actually it might be 8.8 i must check 'nolife.xls' when i get home)
― Noel 1 Kanye 10.0 (blueski), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I should make that my new interview look, just turn all the conversations back to "why the fuck don't I have, minimum, 3 10s? everybody knows I deserve that shit, hook me up with a 10 pitchfork, right thing to do imo"
― aerosmith: the acid house years (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link
dolphins w/horns(skalphins?)
― underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link
I'd say studio is a 10.0
― mo loko (cozen), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link
dude aero I'm sure you'll get some lovin' when the deluxe reissues drop
― underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah 8 means 10.0 for me pretty much don't sweat it
― Noel 1 Kanye 10.0 (blueski), Monday, 22 November 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Of course the audio spin-off of Kanye's growing pains would get just the "ten" from us
― da croupier, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link
ok maybe i sounded a little bit dramatic with the word "insidious" but i just meant it in the sense of the gradual, subtle degradation of things like scores on reviews. what happens if Kanye or, god forbid, another rapper makes an album like MBDTF but clearly better in every way? will they just have to go Spinal Tap with the score since they already hit the ceiling once?
― vodka loko lame (some dude), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link
too funny to think abt
― underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link
um, no
they will also give that album a 10.0 if they like it that much
the thing about subjective ratings is that things can end up with the same score and people can still like one more than the other
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
It's not like giving 5s to Sleep With Angels or Goddess In The Doorway meant a thing to Rolling Stone after the issue dropped.
― da croupier, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
(referring to Kanye or, god forbid, another rapper makes an album like MBDTF but clearly better in every way)
― underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link
kinda wish someone would make an album like To The 5 Boroughs but clearly better in every way, just to blow David Fricke's mind.
― da croupier, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't think any other rappers have the money to make an album like MBDTF
― prolego, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Will Smith does
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link
Geddy Lee.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Will Smith does― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, November 22, 2010 6:09 PM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, November 22, 2010 6:09 PM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark
― underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:10 (thirteen years ago) link
are y'all thinking what I'm thinking
― underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link
what does that even mean, though? there's nothing that technologically or instrumentally complex on it that anyone w/ a professional studio couldn't pull off more or less, and the guest list isn't much more extravagant than the average major label rap album (besides "All Of The Lights," where you can't even hear most of the big names). (xpost)
― vodka loko lame (some dude), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean albums can really never be like special effects-driven movies where you really can feel or see or hear the budget in the final product in any meaningful way. that's part of why blockbuster movies are ultimately more viscerally exciting than this album, which is basically the aural equivalent of a Michael Bay movie.
― vodka loko lame (some dude), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
rly looking forward towillow smith - "scourge (feat. will smith, aaliyah's ghost, zooey deschanel, and someone from glee)"blowing up the charts in appx. 1.5 years
― underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:13 (thirteen years ago) link
those track credits are missing Wicked Wisdom
― da croupier, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
so i now own this, but had to finish listening to cough's "ritual abuse" on the drive back. "ritual abuse" might well get an 8-something from me, it does not deserve a 10.0 tho
― questeon the answers (call all destroyer), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
btw pitchfork obv could not bust out a 10 for an indie record; this was like there only chance to *do it up* in the last 5 years and prob will be for the next 5.
― questeon the answers (call all destroyer), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:17 (thirteen years ago) link
they probably could've done it for MPP last year.
― prolego, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
they could have but a) i maintain they will not do it for an indie album and 2) who says that was anco's *career peak*
― questeon the answers (call all destroyer), Monday, 22 November 2010 18:21 (thirteen years ago) link
lol a) and 2)
they're betting that kanye never makes an album this good again
i think they could have done it for Funeral easily but that was quite a while ago
― ciderpress, Monday, 22 November 2010 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link