this shit is inexcusable
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 22 November 2010 14:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Which shit exactly?
― hoy orbison (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 November 2010 14:22 (thirteen years ago) link
i can;t say EXACTLY like to the decimal place
but it's APPROXIMATELY or circa ~10
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 22 November 2010 14:25 (thirteen years ago) link
if you wanna try to narrow it down with me so we can be more exactly let me know a hoy hoy
― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Monday, 22 November 2010 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Lol btw it's .0
― hoy orbison (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 November 2010 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link
I still haven't heard this, but I'm so glad Pfork gave it a 10.0 so I could watch you guys get all riled up about it. Good job Pfork!
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 November 2010 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Think we had the problem regardless of lol ratings
― hoy orbison (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 November 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
True, but this really kicked it up a notch.
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 November 2010 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link
It made it his be here now
― hoy orbison (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 November 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link
to a 9.7?
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 November 2010 14:31 (thirteen years ago) link
looking forward to this thread hitting 500 new answers soon
― _| ̄|○| ̄|○| ̄|○ (dayo), Monday, 22 November 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
It's thankfully nowhere near being his Be Here Now but some of the reviews are very similar in that they spend more time on the size of the phenomenon than on the music. It sounds so big! He's so famous!
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 22 November 2010 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link
dammit, I was going to avoid this album but all of this complaining makes me want to hear it to see if it's really that bad
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link
it's not
― based lord sotosyn (The Reverend), Monday, 22 November 2010 14:44 (thirteen years ago) link
it's really not
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 22 November 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link
I didn't think so but the garment-rending at Pitchfork giving it a 10.0 is making me lol
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link
I ruined my best flannel button up today because of this
― _| ̄|○| ̄|○| ̄|○ (dayo), Monday, 22 November 2010 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link
It is in no way as embarrassing as 808 but it is possibly worse.. If that makes sense? That said if Kanye was more choosy with his collabs, learnt from dre when he doesn't need to rap and had an editor with some balls to tell him when to end things, it could have been a lot better.
― hoy orbison (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 November 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
Still more likelyto listen to it at any point in my life ever than any post retirement jay.
― hoy orbison (a hoy hoy), Monday, 22 November 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
i officially have no idea if i'm gonna like this or not
― questeon the answers (call all destroyer), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
It's not just P4k - nobody on Metacritic has dipped below 88 yet. This is the kind of big, ambitious, flawed record that I'd like to see reviewed in three months' time. That's when the interesting criticism might happen - at the moment it's just variations on wow. (I don't exempt myself from that - if I'd had to turn around a review quickly I suspect I'd have erred on the side of positivity, though not to the extent of 10/10)
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm prepared to read (and have, in a few places) spirited defenses and reevaluations of 808's, but this album sticks too closely to his tried-and-true.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link
still think 808s is a great album
― _| ̄|○| ̄|○| ̄|○ (dayo), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link
It reminds me in places of plastic surgery gone too far - always aiming for bigger and better, he ends up making some potentially great songs ugly and repellent.
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link
listened to it last night for first time in a while and yeah apart from broing Amazing and Heartless and the final track i enjoy v much the sound of his misery
― Noel 1 Silence 0 (blueski), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link
for one thing it's almost half an hour shorter than this mess
― _| ̄|○| ̄|○| ̄|○ (dayo), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Because 808s is a great album!
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link
from tom ewing's tumblr:
10. Do I enjoy the record? No, not especially, or at least not as a 70 minute experience. Parts of it. Songs on shuffle. But it’s exhausting! In the way Important Records usually are. I’ve played it three times through - hardly enough to have an opinion - but I’m not really reaching for it again.
otm
― _| ̄|○| ̄|○| ̄|○ (dayo), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link
yes it's exhausting
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:21 (thirteen years ago) link
ugh so tired after sitting on my ass and listening to this album
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link
ha
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I almost feel like music publications need this record to be a big thing. in the wake of the almost-complete balkanization of taste on the internet, people want to believe that there is still a record that can be released that will unite all music fans under the one banner. wish they could have found a better record to congregate under though.
― _| ̄|○| ̄|○| ̄|○ (dayo), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link
So we don't like this, but it must be Important (with a capital I) because it is exhausting?
― "I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:25 (thirteen years ago) link
I think the reaction here is more "wtf music critics" than anything else
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link
dayo kinda agree. would really expect a record like this from an artist like this to be as divisive as 808s if not more so but get the impression the vast majority of reviews will be positive.
― Noel 1 Silence 0 (blueski), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
not music critics' fault they're expected to have opinions about this shit ~
― underplayed junior boys remixes I have forgotten were on my comp (bernard snowy), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link
I will say this, though; the first paragraph of the Pitchfork review has actually made me want to sit through the "Runaway" video.
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link
...don't
― Noel 1 Silence 0 (blueski), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link
To be clear, Kanye West is not Michael Jackson. As he told MTV last month, "I do have a goal in this lifetime to be the greatest artist of all time, [but] that's very difficult being that I can't dance or sing.
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link
On Twisted Fantasy, Kanye is crazy enough to truly believe he's the greatest out there. And, about a decade into his career, the hardworking perfectionist has gained the talent on the mic and in the control room to make a startlingly strong case for just that.
okay NOW I understand why ppl are taking issue with this review
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link
This hardworking perfectionist has gained the talent on the mic and control room to record a singularly dull album.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
xposts
or at least hold off for a heavily edited version that includes only:
the MJ paradekanye punching out the live Power remix on the MPC (altho you don't have to watch this just listen)
― Noel 1 Silence 0 (blueski), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
like, that's akin to saying something like "Katy Perry showcases vocal chops that put her contemporaries to shame"
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Trying to imagine the alternate world in 2001 where Kanye has somehow never heard of a recording studio and resolves to 'learn something about this.'
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 November 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
He spent ours in the New York Public Library educating himself on engineering and mixing.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link
*hours
Oh ffs, the "baroque instrumentation" of Late Registration? Is there a viol-and-harpsichord version of that album that I've never heard?
― ali-baba-boob-job-bomb.jpg (DJP), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Society for Creative Anakanyeism
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 November 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
Actually Ren Fest could have made a great album title after the college ones. (Or maybe a remix album title, along with Reggae Fest.)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 November 2010 15:38 (thirteen years ago) link
code word for "jon brion collab" of course
― questeon the answers (call all destroyer), Monday, 22 November 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link