Chinese Democracy, now that we've had time to think (and forget) about it

should have made "axl means that sleep is an area in which he excels" an option

― da croupier, Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

had a weird night recently driving home from across state lines at 2am and Chinese Democracy was one of the only CDs in the glove box that i hadn't listened to lately, was kind of a fun companion piece to reading the 33 1/3 about the Use Your Illusions (which i actually like a lot), and yeah man this album is more of a drag than a WTF or anything. i might still like "Better" enough to vote #2, though.

― some dude, Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

"I don't need to hear it again, but jeez it's not godawful or anything."

But it was definitely a disappointment considering the wait.

― Mordy, Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

I will give props to Klosterman's review, because memories of this paragraph made listening to the most unforgivably turgid song on the album not just bearable but hilarious:

On the aforementioned "Sorry," Rose suddenly sings an otherwise innocuous line ("But I don't want to do it") in some bizarre, quasi-Transylvanian accent, and I cannot begin to speculate as to why. I mean, one has to assume Axl thought about all of these individual choices a minimum of a thousand times over the past 15 years. Somewhere in Los Angles, there's gotta be 400 hours of DAT tape with nothing on it except multiple versions of the "Sorry" vocal. So why is this the one we finally hear? What finally made him decide, "You know, I've weighed all my options and all their potential consequences, and I'm going with the Mexican vampire accent. This is the vision I will embrace. But only on that one line! The rest of it will just be sung like a non-dead human." Often, I don't even care if his choices work or if they fail. I just want to know what Rose hoped they would do.

― some dude, Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

I wish there was a choice in between "Actually, I think there's some decent stuff on it" and "It's G'N'Rs finest hour, and I say that with no irony whatsoever." I like it a lot. In fact, I would happily dump the Illusions and keep Appetite and Chinese as my only two G N' R albums, if it came to that.

― Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

That paragraph is exactly what I sound like every time I watch The Room. This is a great way of approaching weird art imo.

― Mordy, Saturday, 8 May 2010 23:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

I love Guns 'n Roses, like this album, but despite this, it is still my lifelong dream to throw a potato at Axl Rose during a concert.

― Heroin Kills (Brad Nowell's Soiled Undergarments), Sunday, 9 May 2010 02:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

Why "potato"?

― t**t, Monday, 10 May 2010 12:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

What finally made him decide, "You know, I've weighed all my options and all their potential consequences, and I'm going to throw a potato at him?"

Potato makes sense to me, tho'

― bendy, Monday, 10 May 2010 12:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Actually, I think there's some decent stuff on it."

― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 10 May 2010 13:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty mixed on Klosterman overall, but that review was one of the best things I read about this record. Voting #2 because there is a decent album buried under all that over production.

― sofatruck, Monday, 10 May 2010 13:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

i really think the songs have more problems than the production

― cozen frustard (some dude), Monday, 10 May 2010 13:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

― System, Sunday, 16 May 2010 23:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

never heard this album. The 3 g'n'r super-fans that i know irl all stan for it

two of them, independently of each other, refer to it as "chi dem" :/

― Times New Excels At (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 16 May 2010 23:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

i never got my god damn doctor pepper

― iiiijjjj, Sunday, 16 May 2010 23:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

This may well be the biggest lol in rock history.

+

I don't care either way, and yet I feel the need to express my apathy by voting.

=

ilxor

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 17 May 2010 13:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

The latter option perfectly describes my opinion.

― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 17 May 2010 17:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

Went with "I don't need to hear it again, but jeez it's not godawful or anything," which is the closest to how I feel about it, although I'd say most of it is fairly godawful. It had decent moments here and there, but not a single song that I care about hearing again.

― xhuxk, Monday, 17 May 2010 18:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^^^^^^

― he speak the frenche as the Frenches himselves (snoball), Monday, 17 May 2010 18:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

(and I think that's possibly the best outcome, because after all the time Axl spent on it, it could have been a complete disaster, the "Heaven's Gate" of rock)

― he speak the frenche as the Frenches himselves (snoball), Monday, 17 May 2010 18:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Got the damn thing cheap on CD the last weekend. Haven't litened to quite all of it yet. So far I'm inna "but jeez it's not godawful or anything" kinda state o'mind.

― t**t, Monday, 17 May 2010 19:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

nah I think a complete disaster would've been overall a way better outcome than the kind of shrug this elicits. even Use Your Illusion has way more cringey/campy/over the top moments, CD feels surprisingly small and unambitious by comparison.

― couldn't think of anything to write instead of 'steendriver' (some dude), Monday, 17 May 2010 19:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, except GnR's least ambitious album (The Spaghetti Incident) is also their second or third best.

― xhuxk, Monday, 17 May 2010 20:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't care either way, and yet I feel the need to express my apathy by voting.

― huggable snuggable teddy bear (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 17 May 2010 20:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

i wasn't saying ambitious GnR = good GnR, just that the album that took 13 years or whatever felt oddly scaled down compared to the one that took 2-3 years.

― couldn't think of anything to write instead of 'steendriver' (some dude), Monday, 17 May 2010 20:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

That's not that surprising, is it? Taking that long = lots of rethinking/rerecording/reworking = a much less spontaneous-sounding result because it's been analyzed to death before it could make it out of the studio.

― Have a slice of wine! (HI DERE), Monday, 17 May 2010 20:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah but i mean...Axl's raging id is all UYI with crazy rants and spoken word bits and 9-minute epics, and people pretty much expected when the rest of the band left that he'd go even further over the edge. by comparison Chinese Democracy isn't especially indulgent; a lot of songs that sound kind of like "Estranged" or "November Rain" but aren't nearly as long or over the top, no profanity-laced tirades, etc.

― couldn't think of anything to write instead of 'steendriver' (some dude), Monday, 17 May 2010 20:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

― System, Monday, 17 May 2010 23:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

The sorrows:

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/axl-rose-sues-his-former-manager-for-5-million/

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 00:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol wow Azoff hardballin

Mr. Rose also accuses Mr. Azoff of name-calling. “Out of spite and vindictiveness to cause Rose emotional distress and harm,” his suit says, the lawsuit Mr. Azoff filed in March uses Mr. Rose’s adopted name, William Bailey, instead of his legal name, W. Axl Rose. “Azoff knew that the name William Bailey carries significant emotional damage.”

When asked to comment on Mr. Rose’s suit, Mr. Azoff said in a statement on Tuesday: “On advice of counsel I cannot respond at this time, but will discuss in my upcoming book, ‘My Life With William Bill Bailey.’”

― in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 01:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh man that is cold

― tylerw, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 02:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

ice cold

― tylerw, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 02:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

w. axl rose, yesterday

― poutrock (electricsound), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 02:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

Axl was adopted?

― Here is a tasty coconut. Sorry for my earlier harshness. (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

No. His birth dad did a runner iirc

― Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

Was raised by mom and stepdad

― Felix Frankfurter, Man Of Justice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

Lots more about Irving Azoff.

― mandatory seersucker (Eazy), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

azoff manages the eagles so you know he's gotta be some kind of hardcore SOB.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 15:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

This is the only opinion on "Chinese Democracy" you need: http://estebanbuttez.blogspot.com/2009/01/buttezview-guns-n-roses-chinese.html

― The pasta is a foreign country: they do things differently there (King Boy Pato), Friday, 21 May 2010 08:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yours at Best Buy for the princely sum of $1.99:

― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 20:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

Haha, wow, I'm imagining them to still have warehouse overflowing with this record. Every now and then my local Best Buy puts back up the original special display endcap in the hopes of shedding more copies of this. The major drawback of these exclusivity deals? Target seems to be having trouble dumping their stock of that 3-disc Prince set as well.

― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 20:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, and Wal-Mart's taken a bath on most of their exclusives. The Eagles and AC/DC were their only hits.

― Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 April 2011 01:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/WkGsRv1JB1o"; frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

― SeanWayne, Thursday, 7 April 2011 01:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

― SeanWayne, Thursday, 7 April 2011 01:45 (2 years ago) Permalink

So Best Buy is selling this album for 1.99 this week. Lol they tryin to unleash the backlog of unsold exclusive units?

― my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 June 2011 17:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Look up a couple posts, they've been selling it that cheap for a while now.

― the fey bloggers are onto the zagat tweets (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 12 June 2011 17:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

oops...this is what happens when I ILX from my phone in a hurry, haha.

― my downeaster ilxor (Neanderthal), Sunday, 12 June 2011 17:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Chinese economy.

― 27 Dresses, 13 Assassins (Eazy), Sunday, 12 June 2011 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

eheh, funny I listened to this yesterday. bad. sometimes awful.

― AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 12 June 2011 18:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

how many Chinese Democracy songs are they still playing live?

― some dude, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

and christ, they had such a long time to make a decent album cover, and they end up using a shit picture and a windows default font.

― Poliopolice, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

in theory, I could be willing to try again to like this now. funny, I thought about this just a few days ago... might be the right time !
I'm pretty sure I could enjoy at least a couple of songs. I remember a few bits that weren't so bad.

― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

xpost They played maybe ... five live? And those are long songs. Long, boring songs.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

I want to say title track, Shackler's Revenge, Madagascar, some other boring song ...

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

ILM will totally love this album in 2045

Would 'ave loved that post even more yesterday.

― t**t, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think I listened to it twice. Of course two times isn't a fair amount of listens to judge a record properly, but I couldn't handle slogging through it a third time.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

considering how many people have probably gone WORST ALBUM EVER without even listening to it i think 2 whole listens makes you an expert tbh

― some dude, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

ahah. It think I've listened to it more than twice though !
talking about this makes me want to give it a go tonight...

― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

I always make it through the first few songs before getting tired of it. Should really listen to the whole thing. I like "Better" pretty well, sorta almost.

― beachville, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

NOT EXACTLY A GLOWING RECOMMENDATION! I couldn't do it. I couldn't let it go without qualifications.

― beachville, Monday, 2 April 2012 15:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Better was one of the other "new" songs they played.

Why anyone would listen to this more than twice is beyond me. Not every album deserves two listens, let alone three. I think this one's exhausting not-goodness is pretty prima facia.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 April 2012 16:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Better" is dope imo

― some dude, Monday, 2 April 2012 16:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is a really exhausting record but parts of it are good imo

definitely doesn't deserve josh's ire

― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 2 April 2012 16:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

also yeah "better" rules

― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 2 April 2012 17:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

the idea of ILM in 2045 is very chinesedemocracyesque

― goole, Monday, 2 April 2012 17:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

The intro feels really corny to me. Plus, I always notice how his voice goes a little wonky on the chorus (specifically 1:18-1:22, below. I can't unhear that)

― beachville, Monday, 2 April 2012 17:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

Come on, this album is only good in a vacuum: it sucks! No, seriously though, if this was all I or anyone knew about GNR it would be fine as a weird sort of sterile, industrial hard rock record with long ballads. But I can think of very little I'd cut from either Illusion disc to make room for even one song from this one, and yes, that is taking into account the total dross. Because even the OK stuff on this album sounds horrible, like some Pro Tools band in a box experiment gone nuts ("Let's see what happens if we construct an album overdub by overdub, with no more than one player in the studio at a time, over the course of a decade, with no more than one part being added per week!"). The disturbing miracle of the current live GNR is that Axl has hired a band that is able to capture this album's stiff precision in a live setting.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 April 2012 17:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

that Brain interview on Chinese Democracy is my favorite anecdote about this record, but it is my favorite story about this record so I'll sum it up:

- Josh Frieze tracks drums on 30 or so songs for the album, the songs are significantly built up over Josh's drum tracks
- Josh and Axl fall out for various reasons, Axl says 'if you leave, I'm taking you off the record', Frieze says 'whatever'
- Axl hires Brain to replay Frieze's parts
- Brain slowly realizes that his job is to recreate Frieze's takes, fill for improvised fill; not to add something new, but just strictly to replace Frieze
- hires a guy to chart out Frieze's parts with notation, takes a few months
- spends several months in the $2000 a day studio rehearsing because Axl insists that Brain perform the drums for each song all the way through in real time
- finally nails the takes
- producer uses Pro Tools' Beat Detective to quantify and allign Brain's performance -exactly- to the original drum takes, so that they are technically the exact same performance of the original take, but with every inch of life and breath edited out of them
- Months and months later, Axl gets the creative result he wanted; Frieze is officially no longer on the album

There's a lot of electronic music that is audibly the result of every sound being programmed, but this record really sets some kind of high water mark for Pro Tools abuse; every single sound has been conformed and tweaked and it is just baffling to listen to from the engineering perspective. Once you realize that this album is edited down to the sixteenth notes, it can be a fascinating listen (I've listened to it all the way through once and to the title track, 'Bedouins' and 'Prostitute' a few times)

― Milton Parker, Monday, 2 April 2012 21:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

I love Guns 'n Roses, like this album, but despite this, it is still my lifelong dream to throw a potato at Axl Rose during a concert.

― Heroin Kills (Brad Nowell's Soiled Undergarments), Saturday, May 8, 2010 10:24 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Why "potato"?

― t**t, Monday, May 10, 2010 8:36 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

What finally made him decide, "You know, I've weighed all my options and all their potential consequences, and I'm going to throw a potato at him?"

Potato makes sense to me, tho'

― bendy, Monday, May 10, 2010 8:43 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Actually, I think there's some decent stuff on it."

― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, May 10, 2010 9:01 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

On the potato?

― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Monday, 2 April 2012 21:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

^ bows down

― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Monday, 2 April 2012 22:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wow, I've been reading some of these Brain interviews. Is he the only guy who has talked about this stuff in detail? It's just nuts. No wonder the album is a mess. A guitarist - say, Buckethead - might bring in a riff or song, then the band would jam it out, then the guitarist would leave and the replacement would work it out with the band. Then the drummer would bow out for a bit and they'd bring in a new guy to play, say, just the chorus, while the rest of the stuff is a mix of, say, Brain and Josh Freese. And then that would be the process on every other track, too, with a rotating cast of people recreating each other's parts. That worked well on, say, the first Eno record, but here, played to a click, with drum parts transcribed ... gosh.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 April 2012 23:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

those are fun facts. I didn't know about all that... (I didn't care about that, actually !).
It's pretty conceptual/artsy when you think of it !
anyway, didn't have the time to listen to it yesterday... soon its time will come !

― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 10:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's pretty conceptual/artsy anal retentive. This album ain't "Aja."

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 11:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

ahah. there's a thin line between conceptual/artsy and anal retentive !

― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 12:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Spinal Tap said it better ...

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

is there a book or documentary on the recording and history of chinese democracy ? that could be great !
they should make a movie actually !

― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

di caprio could play axl at all various stages of the process.

― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

(anybody could play buckhead).

― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

no, only one contender!

― Mark G, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

the history of buckethead is so wtf : http://www.bucketheadland.com/visitorcenter/VIC1.html

"Chinese Democracy - the movie (3D)" would be so gorgeous...

― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

― some dude, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

It would have to be Chinese Democracy:3-D in IMAX.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

ahah. and Axl would want to record a whole new soundtrack for the movie !

― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wow, I've been reading some of these Brain interviews. Is he the only guy who has talked about this stuff in detail?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, April 2, 2012 11:03 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The only bandmember, yeah.

It's weird to me how most people concede that Better is awesome but won't give it up for There Was A Time. Buckethead pwns on that song, man.

― Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 5 April 2012 08:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

some dude otm

― same old song and placenta (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 5 April 2012 13:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Buckethead doesn't own on anything, ever. I was just in Louisville, and the science museum there has a traveling exhibit on guitars. About 2/3rds of the electrics are dedicated to these stupid shredder hybrid models, including a little installation dedicated only to Steve Vai, who has this clip playing on a loop of him soloing in the dark with flashlight eyes, colored lights on his frets and lights on his fingers. That's what I think of when I think of Buckethead, only with nunchucks and a KFC bucket on his head.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 April 2012 13:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

- Brain slowly realizes that his job is to recreate Frieze's takes, fill for improvised fill; not to add something new, but just strictly to replace Frieze

I'm trying to figure out how this reconciles with the notion that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

― bendy, Thursday, 5 April 2012 14:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm trying to figure out how this reconciles with the notion that insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

this is just some folksy axiom that stops making sense when you think about it, especially when we juxtapose it with these other coffee mug proverbs:

- "if at first you don't succeed, try, try again"
- "the key to success is persistence"
- "never give up on your dreams"
- etc.

― Poliopolice, Thursday, 5 April 2012 14:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

All those could apply to Chinese Democracy!

― bendy, Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

I guess my point is that implications of insanity would probably be better associated with the thing you're trying to accomplish rather than the act of doing something over and over.

― Poliopolice, Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

(and yes, the description of drum tracking above indicates insanity)

― Poliopolice, Thursday, 5 April 2012 15:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

^ It's not trying them again that is crazy, it is hiring a different drummer to play the parts exactly the same as the drummer that preceded him.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

it's funny because you'd think Axl would be walking around thinking of new ways to screw over Slash or Duff some more and write them out of GNR history but he's too busy making new grudges and getting revenge on friggin Josh Freese

― ferrante's inferranteno (some dude), Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

there's this rumor, not sure if it's true or not, that George Lucas wanted to recreate this creek that he used to play in when he was a kid, and he ordered people to meticulously take notes on the original creek, and then in the new creek, place rocks in the exact same locations that they were in the original stream.

― Poliopolice, Thursday, 5 April 2012 16:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

I heard he was making the creek better, inserting cool new sassy-talking rocks and making it so that the fish totally provoked you before you caught them on a hook

― ferrante's inferranteno (some dude), Thursday, 5 April 2012 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

guys don't you get it, he wanted the same drumming but with Brain's FEEL

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 6 April 2012 07:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Buckethead doesn't own on anything, ever. I was just in Louisville, and the science museum there has a traveling exhibit on guitars. About 2/3rds of the electrics are dedicated to these stupid shredder hybrid models, including a little installation dedicated only to Steve Vai, who has this clip playing on a loop of him soloing in the dark with flashlight eyes, colored lights on his frets and lights on his fingers. That's what I think of when I think of Buckethead, only with nunchucks and a KFC bucket on his head.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, April 5, 2012 1:52 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Whatever dude, the There Was A Time solo is fucking badass

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 6 April 2012 07:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

sO I've finally given this another try and went through THE WHOLE album !
actually, it's not that bad.
many songs are not worse than what's on UYIs (which doesn't mean much since there are many tracks I don't like/don't care about on the UYIs...).
and I was surprised to find many that are actually not bad/better than many tracks on YUIs : street of dreams, there was a time, catcher, IRS, prostitute.
I think it might be the GnR album I would rather listen to these days !

― AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 8 April 2012 09:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 16 September 2012 04:04 (8 months ago) Permalink