I'm surprised there wasn't already a thread on her--I know there are a lot of fans here. But yeah, very promising. I know the new lo-fi has (rightfully) gotten a lot of heat, but she does it right. Any detractors?
― AlexPh, Thursday, 29 April 2010 19:15 (3 years ago) Permalink
I like it. "When I'm with you sounds like Glasvegas with good vocals.
― the subject of many men’s thoughts (daavid), Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
I don't know. They sound like a bad version of Vivian Girls. And Vivian Girls sound like a bad version of something.
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:46 (3 years ago) Permalink
hmm had no idea this band was making inroads to the indie pop world, given that at least one of them is ex-Pocahaunted which is serious psych/drone territory.
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Thursday, 29 April 2010 21:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
Dennis Parrotin' (some dude)
cold shot
― we got to pray just to win in ok (tremendoid), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
I dig this band mostly. Better than Dum Dum Girls. Probably not quite as good as Vivian Girls. I'm seeing them live next Tuesday woo.
― a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 29 April 2010 22:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
"When I'm With You" is insanely catchy, and less overshadowed by the "CAN'T YOU SEE I'M LO-FI" production of her other songs... I hope she keeps moving away from the played-out ultra-reverb stuff. (The video is nice too)
― Becky Facelift, Friday, 30 April 2010 10:20 (3 years ago) Permalink
― Becky Facelift, Friday, 30 April 2010 10:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
I dig this band mostly. Better than Dum Dum Girls. Probably not quite as good as Vivian Girls.
this, pretty much. i like a couple of her 45s a lot, and the EP is pretty strong, but i wouldn't say everything she's done is great. one of the recent singles that i can't immediately remember the title of was weak, as is some/most of her earlier stuff..
― ways t'burg (electricsound), Friday, 30 April 2010 10:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
she's great. i am struggling with song titles but 'this is real' & ' gloomy' are dope too. the neko case thing on the new record was surprising more than super-great
― Earning your Masters in Library and Information Science is beautiful (schlump), Friday, 30 April 2010 11:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
oh dear, were i in a band and someone said i wasn't as good as the godawful vivian girls i would be utterly depressed. best coast is great though.
― keythhtyek, Saturday, 1 May 2010 04:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
when i'm with you is a blast of sunshine.
video's good too.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 04:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
evil clowns.
for me it goes dum dum/mayfair set>>>viv gals>>>>>>best coast. i like pocahaunted and all, but this stuff just kinda bums me out.
― jonathan - stl, Saturday, 1 May 2010 04:37 (3 years ago) Permalink
love 'em. liked "sun was high" just fine, but flipped over "when i'm with you" and really like "our deal."
dum dum girls remain my fav of this particular scene. does grass widow count? them too.
― mike a, Saturday, 1 May 2010 13:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah, grass widow is better than all of this other stuff. dunno why i forgot about them!
― jonathan - stl, Saturday, 1 May 2010 15:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
thanks, mike and jon. i'd never heard of grass widow before, but their debut disc is on emusic, and the samples sound great. i've earmarked it for download.
i wonder why this band -- unlike, say vivian girls or best coast -- have remained so far beneath the radar.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
song sounds like a less interesting Vivian Girls w/ in higher fidelity
― why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:25 (3 years ago) Permalink
the holding a cat at the end of the video is cute for sure though
― why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
rolling my eyes at everyone who's so off-put by lo-fi, reverb, song titles (wtf). i don't get how that sort of stuff makes people so uncomfortable and hesitant about liking stuff, like as if they're blinded by the trendiness and can't actually tell if they like them or not.
great fan-made video for "sun was high (so was i)": http://vimeo.com/5385161
― passion of the wein (samosa gibreel), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
indie guilt on ILX shocker, film at 11
― why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:31 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's not really that complicated ppl are just sick of fucking reverb and fake lo-fi production that you don't even need to have in 2010
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:45 (3 years ago) Permalink
you don't "need" to have any aesthetic
― why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
i get what you're saying -- technology has advanced enough that we aren't limited to a lo-fi sound -- but that doesn't mean that sound isn't still available, and that doesn't mean people shouldn't use it. i think it's more interesting to say why that aesthetic does or doesn't work for a particular song or band
― why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
what we really need is a back-to-basics movement. maybe just some guys. with beards. and guitars.
acoustic guitars.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
of course, i could see why an indie fan would be "sick of" that aesthetic, because it's been a thing in indie for forever. but, like, even you like the Vivan Girls' last record, right? some people still pull it off well. i like the first Vivian Girls' record
― why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
Daniel, I think you should join Fleet Foxes
― why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
i cannot grow a beard that majestic.
also, i am too old to be in a band. even the fleet foxes.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:58 (3 years ago) Permalink
one is never to old to play acoustic guitar & have a beard, as patchy or unmajestic as it may be
― why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 16:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
patchy it would be.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
anyway, nothing wrong with a lo-fi aesthetic filled with reverb. done well, i still appreciate it. besides, does that really characterize best coast's sound? its more 60s-girl group/surf rock homage, to me.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:02 (3 years ago) Permalink
if you buy an electric instead of an acoustic, you can start a lo-fi band, forgo the beard completely, *and* save money on production costs by using a cassette deck instead of a modern studio
― why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
ksh, there are days where, if i could give up my law practice for a gig with a band, i would.
of course, i'd have to be able to play even passably.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
not in indie rock you wouldn't -- buy a guitar, learn a handful of chords, and start singing the first thing that comes to mind. send the demo to a blog. you will be featured on Stereogum in a month's time
― why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
xxxp yeah that's getting at the problem--a lot of bands are trying to explicitly give themselves a "retro" aesthetic through recording techniques. i think it rarely works well. it's not really a problem with the second vivian girls record because a) the songwriting is going in a completely different direction and b) i'd characterize their production more as just "noisy" than anything
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:07 (3 years ago) Permalink
wait, you're saying . . .
I COULD BE FEATURED ON STEREOGUM?!?
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
within a week's time, if you're very lucky & willing to eventually have your lo-fi tunes featured in a KFC commercial
― why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
xpost to cad
sure. one of the problems with indie rock, and with any genre, really, occurs when a band assumes certain signifiers (lo-fi production, a certain guitar sound) w/o its being an "essential" part of their sound. it's the difference between a band's putting on ill-fitting clothes b/c tradition or current trends present those clothes to you as an option & having a certain aesthetic as an inherent, "essential" part of one's aesthetic
things are more nuanced than that, but that's the best way i can think to describe it right now
― why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
having a certain aesthetic as an inherent, "essential" part of one's aesthetic
switch that first "aesthetic" for "sound or production choice"
― why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
The true test is whether the songs hold up despite the lo-fi aesthetic. I'd argue that "When I'm With You," the stuff on the DDG album, etc. are sturdy enough to withstand any production approach. Same as the Shrimper acts from a decade ago; as we now know, the Mountain Goats' songwriting lends itself to boombox production or lush 4AD-sponsored studio craft.
― mike a, Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:28 (3 years ago) Permalink
And I happen to like a minimal, low-tech approach anyway. If I haven't gotten sick of it since playing early Beat Happening on the radio in 1985, it's not going to happen now.
― mike a, Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:29 (3 years ago) Permalink
it's just another production option for an artist. there's nothing inherently wrong with it at all.
― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
there's a band called Grass Widow, too? fuck, i've fallen asleep
― why the hell are you spelling out "donuts" in dunkin donuts (ksh), Saturday, 1 May 2010 17:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
― call all destroyer, Saturday, May 1, 2010 12:45 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
maybe i just like lo fi more than most but it's hard for me to relate to people who are all "i can't tell if i like this song because its LOFI and REVERB and SUMMER and i hate all those things because they're so trendy right now." are people just really picky about production or
― passion of the wein (samosa gibreel), Saturday, 1 May 2010 19:33 (3 years ago) Permalink
i am pretty picky abt production so
this really isn't about trendiness--it's about laziness, and bands choosing production techniques that cover up poor musicianship, singing, and songwriting and then saying it's an aesthetic choice. i'm not saying this is happening intentionally, but i do think it is happening.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 1 May 2010 19:42 (3 years ago) Permalink
since there's no way to judge why an artist is making a particular production choice--unless you ask them, and even then "intentional fallacy" yada yada--i just try to judge them on the final product & whether it sucks or not
― ksh, Saturday, 1 May 2010 19:47 (3 years ago) Permalink
ppl are just sick of fucking reverb and fake lo-fi production
by "ppl," i assume you mean ILM posters who still maintain some sort of an interest in indie rock, b/c most indie kids probably don't care & the majority of the population doesn't know that Japandroids or No Age exist
― ksh, Saturday, 1 May 2010 19:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
(No Age isn't even a great example -- a lot of the Losing Feeling EP doesn't even sound lo-fi)
― ksh, Saturday, 1 May 2010 19:56 (3 years ago) Permalink
it seems some people are pretty sick of lo-fi production at this point, and now any band regardless of how good they are will just get this knee-jerk "I AM SO FED UP WITH THIS SHIT" as if people have lost all ability to discern good from bad and are so repulsed by the ubiquity of the production style it's like their way of rebelling against it by just complaining and shitting on every instance of it. i think best coast's best songs pull it off beautifully, reverb et al all perfectly complementary to the style and overall vibe imo.
― passion of the wein (samosa gibreel), Saturday, 1 May 2010 19:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
LOOK AT HIM
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 17 September 2011 05:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
That is one super pussy
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 17 September 2011 14:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
late pass alert: this album is great
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Friday, 6 January 2012 20:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://pitchfork.com/news/45012-best-coast-talks-grown-up-new-album-working-with-jon-brion/
― markers, Friday, 6 January 2012 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
really late to the game on this one, it's nice, although a little forgettable.
― akm, Sunday, 8 January 2012 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oh I can't wait to hear Best Coast go "emo," aided by Jon fucking Brion. Jesus fucking christ.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 9 January 2012 04:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
do you really hate jon brion or?
i don't know that "some punk girl sings shangri-la-esque guitar jams with harmonies & ~guitar effects~!" would have sounded so alluring. one of the nicest parts of her record was our deal; i am into some slow jams.
― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Monday, 9 January 2012 10:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
jon brion is totally awful
― call all destroyer, Monday, 9 January 2012 13:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
Maybe I'm just a philistine but I can't tell how this new album is going to sound any different from the previous one
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
well, if i had to venture a guess, i'd say that it will sound different because jon brion will find a way to put some dorky keyboard bullshit all over it.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 9 January 2012 14:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hahaha
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
He just better not fuck with the OOOOOOOOsss
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 9 January 2012 14:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
apparently there are less OOOOOOOOOOOsss on this record
― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
As long as they are OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOs and not the annoying OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWAAAA she was singing live last time I saw them.
― The Eyeball Of Hull (Colonel Poo), Monday, 9 January 2012 14:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
If I were her producer, I would do away with the WAAA part of the OOOOOOOOO. Keep it pure, y'know?
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 9 January 2012 14:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
I totally didn't recognize that the dude was Brion's longtime tech/roadie. Different haircut, I guess.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 9 January 2012 14:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
as long as the keybs are covered in hiss i'm down
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 9 January 2012 16:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
Anticipation for this record is bringing out my inner Mike Love. I don't want them to fuck with the formula. There better be plenty of cat and weed references and at least 8 combined minutes of OOOOOOOOO.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
whenever I hear them it only makes me wish that amy linton or linton was not retired or designing houses or whatever.
― keythhtyek, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
The title track is now available for free download. The California tourism board will be very pleased. I'm going to have to give it a few more listens, but I'm not happy about no cats/pot/ooooooooos. The production makes it very easy to understand the lyrics, which could be a problem.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 14:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
look what i found tonight:
The Only Place is the second studio album by duo Best Coast. It is to be released on May 15, 2012 on Mexican Summer Records.
Track listing:
No. Title Length1. "The Only Place" 2:402. "Why I Cry" 2:173. "Last Year" 3:334. "My Life" 2:125. "On One Like You" 3:026. "How They Want Me to Be" 3:527. "Better Girl" 2:548. "Do You Love Me Like You Used To" 3:169. "Dreaming My Life Away" 3:2210. "Let's Go Home" 2:3511. "Up All Night" 4:37
― Bee OK, Friday, 27 April 2012 05:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
I think the band's alright but reading this makes me realize I pretty much have the exact same thought every time I give them a listen.
― "Fourvel - it's like Fievel, but one less." (R Baez), Friday, 27 April 2012 05:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
This is streaming at NPR
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 7 May 2012 19:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
thanks
― Bee OK, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 04:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
CTRL + F "whiney" = 0 results
what the hell, this is like a gimme for whinehate™
― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 07:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
wasn't into the first single, maybe I'll check out the second if they release a video. liked their first few 7" a lot.
― UnderControl, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 08:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
Can we talk about this record? All my worst fears are confirmed. No pot, cats or ooooooh.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 18 May 2012 02:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
i really dislike the sound, it's bizarrely muffled and tubby with harsh resonances all at the same time
makes it difficult to focus on the not-bad songs, despite their cat-free qualities
― mexican sumner (electricsound), Friday, 18 May 2012 02:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
I actually kind of like this new one, I was subjected to it while browsing at a bookstore. Her lyrics are still awful and rhymes painfully obvious, but I think Brion's production kind of fits it. I don't love it or anything, but it wasn't as terrible as everyone is trying to claim.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 May 2012 03:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
is this the record that will finally let everyone know how terrible jon brion is?
i mean the songs are no great shakes but my god
― call all destroyer, Friday, 18 May 2012 03:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
no no no it's terrible xp
― call all destroyer, Friday, 18 May 2012 03:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
didn't realise it was a brion thing, i think his ego might have taken over his ears
― mexican sumner (electricsound), Friday, 18 May 2012 03:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
i don't really have deep evidence to back this up but everything i've ever knowingly heard that he's been involved with has sounded really, really bad
― call all destroyer, Friday, 18 May 2012 03:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
dude has more vintage wank equipment than vincent gallo and this is the sound he gets? he should be drawn and quartered
― mexican sumner (electricsound), Friday, 18 May 2012 03:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha
posts very much in character /\/\/\\/\
― www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Friday, 18 May 2012 03:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Almost afraid to stick my head over the trench here but Bachelor No. 1 was great and that was a Brion joint i think.
― calstars, Friday, 18 May 2012 03:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
bachelor no. 1 is......ok and not because of him
― call all destroyer, Friday, 18 May 2012 03:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
― cosi fan whitford (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 07:54 (1 week ago) Permalink
CTRL + F "best coast" on spin.com = 1 result under "SPIN ESSENTIALS"
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 18 May 2012 04:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
The production isn't helping her at all. Plus She has a tendency to draw out the last syllable of every line which makes the banality of her rhymes even more glaring.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 18 May 2012 09:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah i wanna withdraw whatever "maybe it'll be good! jon brion isn't so bad is he?" remarks i made earlier itt. she should do super early-eps fuzzy stuff or should go all out & do the full band fleetwood mac thing that some of these songs want. it sounds so clean and terrible, with its little jaunty indie movie drumming.
some of the songs are okay though.
― blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 18 May 2012 10:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
I was going to pick it up earlier this week, but the shop had the new Sinead on LP so I grabbed that instead, trusting my gut vs my hipster elbow..anyway I think I can safely say I've already clocked more hours with "How About I Be Me (And You Be You)" then I have clocked with any album with the words Coast, Best, Bells or Broken in it...funny thing about Sinead is she can still write a smoking tune despite being obviously mad as shit...I know, this is not a Sinead Mad as Shit or Still Writing Bangers thread, but it is all I got....NP: Dr Dee
― Napo, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
im into this 1
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 3 June 2012 19:13 (11 months ago) Permalink
yeah that's probably the best track
― molly olsen (electricsound), Sunday, 3 June 2012 22:40 (11 months ago) Permalink
i think this one is pretty fab (previous distorto version of same song notwithstanding):
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 19:37 (11 months ago) Permalink
http://instagram.com/p/V8SxgZMcBX/
― markers, Saturday, 23 February 2013 18:10 (3 months ago) Permalink
:3
― rave revue (electricsound), Saturday, 23 February 2013 21:25 (3 months ago) Permalink