Alex Chilton RIP 2010

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One thing listening to Chilton has meant for me, over the years, is becoming aware of how different my understanding of what an artist is doing, and where she's coming from, may differ from the artist's self-understanding. He's been tapping into something different than my own pop trajectory---not just more personal, though of course that, but also different musical and even pop traditions. This is pretty obvious for someone from Latin America or even Europe, but I was raised in the South, but still in such a different musical place than him. So when I listen to him I wonder if I'm hearing what he thought I'd hear, or what he wanted me to hear. To me he came to seem more more alien as I became more aware of my own pop understanding, and the promise of following him back to his homeworld remains an elusive hope.

Most important performer of our generation: (Euler), Thursday, 18 March 2010 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link

including if I remember correctly--a local Memphis tv news feature on Chilton producing the Cramps

sounds cool. what I was talking about though (what was in the Eggleston exhibit) was the Stranded in Canton movie Hatch linked to upthread

dmr, Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

One of the disadvantages to listening to NPR so early is hearing the announcement of someone's death that casts a pall over the whole morning.

RIP

Il suffit de ne pas l'envier (Michael White), Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link

http://chuckprophet.com/blog/alex_chilton/

can it compete with the wagon wheel (Eazy), Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

That opening line!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 March 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link

totally shocked to see this last night. major bummer. RIP crazy dude, you made some beautiful stuff.

famous for hating everything (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link

all the westerberg quotes remind me what a perfect song about alex chilton it is. at least he got the eulogy he deserved. (and while he was alive to hear it, too.)

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not crazy about Westerberg's solo on that song – my only quibble.

The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link

many xposts... found the interview where he refers to it as "That $70 Show"

http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/alexchilton/articles/story/5923511/alex_chilton_set_to_go

sofatruck, Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Another fan of the story of the young Steve Shasta hearing the group named after a Memphis grocery store whilst in another Memphis-based grocery store.

Ole Rastaquouère (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link

OK, I am a slow responder. I heard about this last night but it is just starting to sink in.

Ole Rastaquouère (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

all the stories on this thread are making me tear up a bit

famous for hating everything (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 March 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Brett Eugene Ralph, author, louisville punk, member of Fading Out and Rising Shotgun on Chilton:

"To ease the ache, I'll tell a story about the first time I saw Alex Chilton play. It was in Louisville, at Uncle Pleasant's, in the summer of 1988. I remember it being a banner night for music in Louisville; besides Chilton, Dwight Yoakam was playing on the Belvedere and Die Kreuzen was over at Tewligan's.

Chilton was backed by an unspectacular rhythjm section. The show was about half fantastically inspired and half workmanlike boogie chestnuts (I remember Chilton's take on "Young Blood" being among the highlights). About forty minutes into the set, they went into "The Letter." During the second verse, someone bumped into Chilton's microphone, and it popped him in the mouth. "I'm not losing any teeth over you fuckers," Chilton hissed and stalked off the stage. Everybody, including Chilton's band mates, looked at one another in disbelief.

Twenty minutes went by. Maybe a half hour. I asked the bass player if he thought they'd play anymore. "I don't know, man," he said. "Alex sounded pretty pissed off." Chilton sat at the bar with not another person in the packed bar within fifteen feet of him.

After 45 minutes, Chilton made his way back to the stage. Seemingly, he'd gotten over it. "Sorry about that," he said, "but when you get to be my age, you get pretty attached to your teeth." He glanced at the drummer. "We'll try to pick up where we left off . . ."

And then, so help me God, he counted off and they went into "The Letter" in the middle of the second verse--right where they'd stopped nearly an hour ago.

Bravo, Mr. Chilton. Bravo."

snorgfaced germans (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link

this still hasnt sunk in yet

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

rip
no idea why this is making me feel as bad as it is, but then again I've never really been able to understand mourning

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

loved this story quoted on the awl today -

Paul: My favorite tale is from Our Band Could Be Your Life, when he shut down Gibby Haynes's rampage through the Netherlands:

Moments later a man entered the dressing room and asked if he could borrow a guitar. “BORROW A GUITAR??!!! WELL, WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU???!!! [Gibby Haynes of the Butthole Surfers] screamed, eyes flashing in delirious anticpation of forthcoming violence. But the man was totally unfazed.

“I’m Alex Chilton,” the man answered calmly.

Haynes was flabbergasted. After a long pause, he methodically opened the remaining guitar cases one by one and gestured at them as if to say, “Take anything you want.”

just sayin, Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link

"i'm alex chilton"

^^wow <3

snorgfaced germans (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link

that is just awesome.

Still can't really believe it. Just seems like someone will say, "nah, just kidding"
Emailed my dad the news cause he was a big fan of the Box Tops. "That's life" he replied.

Nathalie (stevienixed), Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

OK, another story. I was at CBGB, where Chilton was playing in his trio w/ Chris Stamey. Before his set he was crouched down on the stage, making adjustments to his amp. Assuming he was a roadie, someone asked him "Is this guy Alex Chilton any good?" Chilton gave him a smile and said (paraphrasing, forgive me, this was a long time ago), "Yeah, y'know, he's alright. Sometimes he drinks too much, but he's usually pretty good." And went back to his adjustments.

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 18 March 2010 16:57 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ Great story! I did that once (mistook a band's bass player for a roadie and then started criticizing the band!)

Pierced nose! Performs improv! (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Here's a toast to the greatest high school memory maker I've ever known.

Captain Ahab, Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:04 (fourteen years ago) link

holy shit! alex made congress: http://www.c-spanarchives.org/program/ID/221212&start=1596&end=1715

zingzing, Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link

RIP a lot

69, Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link

holy s--t want to vote for rep. steve cohen ASAP.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

used to have this one as 12" ep, great track called 'wild kingdom' on the second side:

http://www.vinylmoon.com/activos/maxis/chiltonsex.jpg

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

he sorry that was meant for the chilton vinyl thread

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

http://cohen.house.gov/

And the Chilton tribute is already featured on the page.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Awesome

The Oort Locker (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link

"That's life" he replied.

I like this. It's not as dismissive at it sounds at first.

kenan, Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:55 (fourteen years ago) link

rough year for memphis rockers of a certain ilk. dickinson, reatard, chilton. so sad.

Brio, Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

steven cohen is one of my favorite reps in all of the house, even before the chilton thing, what a bro

max, Thursday, 18 March 2010 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8574554.stm

zingzing, Thursday, 18 March 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

wkiw steven cohen

snorgfaced germans (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 18 March 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Wow, that was a really moving speech from Rep. Cohen. Pretty choked up right now.

Moodles, Thursday, 18 March 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I have this Jon Spencer Blues Explosion poster up in my house, and every day I look up at it, see Alex Chilton's name as the opener and think, jeez, I can't remember a minute of his set. Then I think back to another time I saw him, and all I can remember was someone requesting a Big Star song only to get Chilton covering Michael Jackson (twice, if memory serves!). Then I think back to seeing Big Star several years ago, and he and the band killed it. He had such an uneasy relationship with that group and those songs - and maybe the world as a whole - but my world has certainly been better with them in it. He may be gone now, but at least I still have the songs. If there's one bright spot to the band staying relatively under the radar for so long, it's that Big Star remains not some ubiquitous presence or fashionable affectation but a cherished talisman to be passed on and discovered.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 March 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Primal Scream's Bobby Gillespie, who describes him as "a genius of rock 'n' roll", joins Teenage Fanclub singer Norman Blake to outline the impact Chilton had.

count how many times Bobby mentions himself and his wretched band in that piece.

(xpost to zingzing)

sonofstan, Thursday, 18 March 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

everytime that bobby gillespie dude says something i just wanna be like "no one gives a fuck about primal scream"

snorgfaced germans (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

listening to "she's a mover" now...his rhythm playing on this is so weird and awesome

snorgfaced germans (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

She's a mover is one of my favorites

Mr. Que, Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link

forgot how beautiful and epic and psych "daisy glaze" is, haven't listened to radio city in a while

snorgfaced germans (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

count how many times Bobby mentions himself and his wretched band in that piece.

Three.

Mark G, Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

I like some Primal Scream albums. I don't listen to Bobby Gillespie tho, only Marcello's impression of Bobby Gillespie

famous for hating everything (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Got a call at 10:15 pm central last night with the news, just after I'd started my radio shift. We were doing St Patrick's Day right on the radio, tons of Thin Lizzy, Them and Van Morrison, Taste and Rory Gallagher, songs with Green in the title, some Irish punk stuff, some traditional folk stuff from the incredible stacks at the station I volunteer for...Then THAT. Couldn't believe, hadn't even brought Keep an Eye on the Sky (which I bought last week, ferchrissake). Luckily, we have Radio City in the stacks. We ended up playing two songs from it last night and just made brief mention (I'd been planning this holiday show all week!). Feels wrong, tho.
Wish I could have just dropped everything and paid a proper tribute. There's always next week...and every other week after.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

btw Hatch, really liked your "Ballad of El Goodo" last Sunday -- I was listening in the lounge at the time and didn't know it was you til later!

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

sure bobby g is a berk but the fact is he and mcgee did as much as anybody in the uk to promote and enshrine chilton's reputation in the 1980s and beyond, dude has earned the right to blah abt him now

gratuitous namedrop warning - epic soundtracks, who was prob the biggest big star fan i ever knew, once told me that he thought there were at least five or six great songs on GIVE OUT BUT DON'T GIVE UP, and he actually owned the songbook for that alb (admittedly cos i sold it to him v. cheaply but, yknow) - have been thinking abt epic quite a lot since chilton joined him out there

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

fuck, been thinking about his own stuff today so much it just hit me how much I love the cramps and gories stuff he produced.

Brio, Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Haven't been this bummed out about a music hero dying since Grant McLennan. That same shocking suddenness and that same regret about not keeping up with their later careers, when they were still here with us.

Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Farting in Space (NickB), Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

sure bobby g is a berk but the fact is he and mcgee did as much as anybody in the uk to promote and enshrine chilton's reputation in the 1980s and beyond, dude has earned the right to blah abt him now

I don't know...

I saw Alex in '85 in a packed Mean Fiddler, and Live in London was recorded in a not empty Dingwalls in 1980: people did know who he was, long before Alan McGee was around to tell us.

sonofstan, Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Several late nights spent at Metro watching this dood just throw down. Some of my latest rock 'n' roll nights indeed. Spilling out onto the streets at 3:30 a.m. just filled with an appreciation for his craft. That big Gibson hollow-body. Great times. RIP, Alex.

bounty of eternal fields (eternal_fields), Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Then I think back to another time I saw him, and all I can remember was someone requesting a Big Star song only to get Chilton covering Michael Jackson (twice, if memory serves!).

This was at Schuba's . . . man, what a fantastic show. He played "Rock With You" and I cannot remember the other right now. Great live shows from this guy.

bounty of eternal fields (eternal_fields), Thursday, 18 March 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link


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