Kingdom ft. Shyvonne - Mind Reader

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there aren't too many threads about individual tracks on ilm any more, but this is quite simply the best club track i've heard over the past year, from the first astounding drop to the amazing todd edwards-esque cut-up vox to that twisting worm of a bassline to shyvonne's incredible diva performance, both pleading and denouncing. this is what the urban/dance fusion should've sounded like!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQVbyYdaPBs

dude's also done a ton of great mixes that i've linked to passim - lower end spasm, discobelle, [Removed Illegal Link].

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 18 February 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

appropriately enough there's also an ACTUAL todd the god remix of "mind reader" -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQqox8cK1Ac

also, this remix of kid sister's "right hand hi" last year was banging.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 18 February 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

uh i meant this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOClfXLD6Wo

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 18 February 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Is Kingdom = KKingdom?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 18 February 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link

maybe? his myspace is http://www.myspace.com/kkingdomm and he's @kkingdomm on twitter

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 18 February 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link

not sure if there's another kkingdom out there but this kingdom used to go by kkingdomm on occassions before it got too confusing.

fauxmarc, Thursday, 18 February 2010 18:31 (fourteen years ago) link

also, i still dig this but i think before the official release it was less... busy? near the end? or maybe i'd just been jumping around in the track and never noticed it.

fauxmarc, Thursday, 18 February 2010 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link

lol glad i opened this thread

plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 18 February 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Here's a mix by him; http://soundcloud.com/fabric/kingdom-fabriclive-fools-gold-promo-mix

mmmm, Thursday, 18 February 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

At least I think it's (a) him. Lovely mix, starts with Acid Eiffel which is neat.

mmmm, Thursday, 18 February 2010 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

yup that's him - tried to link in my first post but it came out as [illegal link] for some reason.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 18 February 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, he just got on fool's gold a few months back.

fauxmarc, Thursday, 18 February 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

damn this joint is d-_-b

J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah feels like the platonic ideal of the urban dance stuff that i kind of vaguely remember when i was like 12

plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

like i know what the stuff im talking abt sounds like, i just couldnt tell u any of the acts or anything

plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 18 February 2010 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Great great track.

Tim F, Thursday, 18 February 2010 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah it's fantastic - the sort of song I once hoped that bassline would regularly throw in the direction of the charts. Obviously this won't chart but it's enormously enjoyable nonetheless.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Friday, 19 February 2010 10:46 (fourteen years ago) link

i like the song, but the production seems so self-aware in squirelling around all its grime/2step/bassline/junglebreaks references that it kind of detracts from the total force of feeling. boy i'm not an rss readerrrr, readerrr.

r|t|c, Friday, 19 February 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I think the real genius of this is the mammoth amount of space opened up by those trance/proghouse synths - space in both a practical, aural sense but also in a semiotic sense. Like, where the fuck am I? What club plays this stuff??

Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 February 2010 13:58 (fourteen years ago) link

The trance synths are kind of what I don't like about it. Actually it's this huge grab bag of various stylistic quirks, and rather than coming across as a synthesis that leads to something new, it just seems like they threw in everything but the kitchen sink (unless I'm wrong and one of those percussive sounds is a sample of a kitchen sink) and came up with a camel.

Monster bassline, though.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 19 February 2010 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Aw man I'm tellin you the trance synths make it. Otherwise it wouldn't be quite cheap enough!

Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 February 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link

i like the song, but the production seems so self-aware in squirelling around all its grime/2step/bassline/junglebreaks references that it kind of detracts from the total force of feeling. boy i'm not an rss readerrrr, readerrr.

Yeah it's total blog house and I agree the production could probably do with a bit of space. Not heard the Todd Edwards mix yet though.

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Friday, 19 February 2010 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Weird, I feel like it's got acres of space.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 February 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

mebbe i dont get the refs enough but this sounds more like radio house than blog house 2 me

plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 19 February 2010 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link

dunno what radio you're hearing bruv.

i dunno, it's not so much actual nuum nerd refererences (altho - what is the ponderous empty wiley riddim at the intro - lol could it even be that 9/11 one!!) it's more stuff like the bassline verses having garage tss-tss-tss throughout AND dnb breaks clutter at the end of every bar.

tbh i'm just wishing it was full-on punishing transgender trance all the way thru rather than merely the bookends.

r|t|c, Friday, 19 February 2010 15:53 (fourteen years ago) link

although it could just as easily be better off sticking to any one (or two) of whatever's going on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6RRmwiH6QI

this is the todd mix btw. it is great, classic, super todd but like... what do you even do with that any more. prefer to chew over different, possibly flawed versions instead tbh.

r|t|c, Friday, 19 February 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link

a happy hardcore mix would be sublime

Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 February 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

DJ PANACEA

Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 February 2010 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm with tracer on hearing the acres of space in this, i've never really felt it's too cluttered - i think he's quite judicious with how much he lets in of any particular sound - like how there are elements of bassline, inc the 4x4 beat, but the 4x4 beat also ties it into big-room techno. and shyvonne's such a huge presence that she dominates proceedings quite effectively anyway.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 19 February 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

ridic to call it blog house - i can see the fidget aspects leaning it in that direction but it doesn't quite make it there, still feels more or less just old rave and garage. he's actually decried the ubiquity of blog house in an article or two.

...and trance synths are so needed to counter that shit in this day and age, i can even admit that as an adamant "blah blah blah trance sucks" househead. i'm actually excited about him getting exposure now as i want to see what if anything he'll do around those in respect to reggaeton - it hasn't really come up much as the typical audience for his music doesn't care much he's also big into old 90's/early 2k mixtapes from the likes of djs blass, playero, nelson, etc, i.e. before reggaeton became known for being melodramatic autotuned pop this and that. hoping he gets to it soon actually considering time's dwindling down before the bloggy types take that up, if they don't get to mambo or traditional merengue first.

fauxmarc, Friday, 19 February 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

late last year jd twitch (stirmonster of this bailiwick) did an entire set of CUMBIA for tim sweeney's radio show!! it was awesome! but failed to ignite a worldwide blog-driven cumbia craze afaik

Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 February 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

cumbia / "digital" cumbia or whatever is _absolutely_ what everyone is doing now, which is why i say there's not much time left for the rest of the larger latin genres viable to dance music to be hit

fauxmarc, Friday, 19 February 2010 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

haha seriously?? man

Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 February 2010 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link

into the cfcf remix which pulls it back a bit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND64f2XYQrw

fauxmarc, Friday, 19 February 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah maybe it's more Basement Jaxx than blog house - something about the unnecessary flourishes on each beat. That said, its not a criticism at all, I really like peak era Basement Jaxx and I really like this.

(I didn't mean blog house as pejorative either really - thinking of this more as a possible route back for the sort of kitchen sink maximalism I've mostly associated with terrible dance music over the past few years)

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Friday, 19 February 2010 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link

But yeah this is all about Shyvonne's vocal. Are there any UK funky diva tracks, In The Morning aside, with this sort of snap to the vocals?

Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Friday, 19 February 2010 18:05 (fourteen years ago) link

less jaxx more something like this 4 me but ymmv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YynWeLqTFAE&feature=related

plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 19 February 2010 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

interview today in vman

fauxmarc, Friday, 19 February 2010 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

interview in fact is really great, also this quote has me excited: "I guess “Mind Reader” and “You” have this intense, emotional side, whereas the new stuff almost sounds more spiritual, shamanistic club music."

plax (ico), Sunday, 14 March 2010 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link

ha just realised its by the lex

plax (ico), Sunday, 14 March 2010 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link

pitchfork last wednesday

fauxmarc, Monday, 15 March 2010 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

ok, apparently the interviews aren't stopping. in fact mag friday.

fauxmarc, Monday, 15 March 2010 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link

AND DUMMY this is getting kind of funny.

fauxmarc, Monday, 15 March 2010 18:19 (fourteen years ago) link

"Are these the symbols I see you wearing in pictures? Do they have any specific meaning?

Yeah, people always asked me to defend that at school, because there always was this occult, spiritual element to my visual work, but the whole point is that it’s inspired by sounds but there’s no spiritual thing it’s referencing. It’s my own spiritual language."

I bet being in this guys class was hell!

plax (ico), Monday, 15 March 2010 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

It seems perfect to me that the R&B names mentioned in his pitchfork interview are Teedra Moses, Jazmine Sullivan and (yes!) Yummy Bingham - perfect not only in the sense of "awesome taste" but it's not coincidental I think that the first two are the R&B divas from the perspective of uk funky. I like the sensibility it implies.

Tim F, Monday, 15 March 2010 19:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Also Ciara and Memoirs of a Perfect angel in the Fact/Dummy ones

plax (ico), Monday, 15 March 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

They're great too obv but it's not quite the same thing IMO. Teedra/Jazmine/Yummy says something very specific I think.

Tim F, Monday, 15 March 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

No disrespect intended toward Ciara or Mariah (tho).

Tim F, Monday, 15 March 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

i thought we already learned from kode9 that the replicants were getting smarter.

r|t|c, Monday, 15 March 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

makes me wonder if with those trancey synths, he could be trying to do to tricky/terius something similar to what speed garage did to todd edwards if that makes sense

plax (ico), Monday, 15 March 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Excited about seeing Kingdom, Girl Unit, Bok Bok, & some other dude (Monolithium???) next week.

sasha and maliaweed (The Reverend), Thursday, 22 September 2011 23:46 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__TJzz0LJ4o

:D

handy ban (lou), Saturday, 24 September 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

Cute, but kind of awkward?

The Reverend, Saturday, 24 September 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I am kinda surprised by how simple that beat is. Seems like was trying to stay out of the way.

handy ban (lou), Saturday, 24 September 2011 23:06 (twelve years ago) link

there was legal beef re: rights over mind reader, i'm surprised they got back together again at all but he's a nice guy - probably a factor.

fauxmarc, Sunday, 25 September 2011 08:48 (twelve years ago) link

hey wait, fauxmarc- didn't i dance with you last night? dj rashad?

handy ban (lou), Sunday, 25 September 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

lol no i wish i'd gone but i did the pothead pass out and wake up at 1:30 thing.

fauxmarc, Sunday, 25 September 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

oops ok lol

handy ban (lou), Sunday, 25 September 2011 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

love me like it's the end of the world
and i'm the very. last. girl.
your good love's got me floatin around
we can (???) to the kingdom sound
sail away on the breeze together
in the trees forever we can do whatever
i'm a boss chick, babygirl, bad mutha
talkin slick, mouth quick, baby you could own this

lex pretend, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

"deep in love we drown to the kingdom sound"

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

loves it

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

the prince william fade to mind mix is bangin', cannot wait for tomorrow

http://fadetomind.net/audio/ftm_mix_001.mp3

queen latifah approximately (donna rouge), Thursday, 29 September 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

sooo jealous

handy ban (lou), Thursday, 29 September 2011 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone else going tonight in Seattle?

Ford Cumlord (The Reverend), Thursday, 29 September 2011 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

That party was sick. And I even left before NGUZUNGUZU came on!

queen latifah approximately (donna rouge), Saturday, 1 October 2011 23:46 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

T Williams ft Terri Walker - Heartbeat (Paul Woolford Rewurq)

This is an absolute jam, I love the way she makes my heart go BOOM BOOM BOOM.

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah that's a great track. Paul Woolford, at his best, is unfuckable-with as a producer. Weird that he's coming up in sets of this sort of stuff and even in straight funky sets, almost seems the wrong kind of ravey but his stretchy MDMA noises always sound great.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

that remix has never really overtaken the original (or the mosca remix) enough for me

lex pretend, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

xp

co-sign on that, I've always thought The Truth was a really under-rated album. His sounds are so brutal and earthy but in the best ways.

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

Woolford >>>>> Mosca even when Woolford is being lazy.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 08:47 (twelve years ago) link

The original is vv good though.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 08:47 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah the Mosca is kind of underwhelming? It doesn't have "make it go BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM" either obv.

Tim F, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 09:38 (twelve years ago) link

it's not as good as the original obv but i find the vocal treatment lovely and tactile. can't really hear anything notable about the woolford one at all

lex pretend, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:24 (twelve years ago) link

"make it go BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM"

Tim F, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:25 (twelve years ago) link

ok the mosca remix has those amazing echoing birdsong noises and the STRINGS! and those awesome tactile bass pads in place of the booms. the woolford one just sits there and doesn't add anything except slightly tuffer beats

lex pretend, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:29 (twelve years ago) link

I know let's drop this and instead talk about this awesome and overlooked prior Terri Walker number from 10 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t7WhQ2ZN_8

Tim F, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:34 (twelve years ago) link

or her awesome new track with donae'o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpJeu9Ua7ew

(donae'o's new album is out, or soon to be out, and is really good btw - i haven't had time to really big it up anywhere)

lex pretend, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:35 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah love "When Angels Sing". The Donaeo album is actually up for free download from the dude himself weirdly. First listen seemed good.

Tim F, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 10:37 (twelve years ago) link

the woolford one just sits there and doesn't add anything except slightly tuffer beats

He doesn't add much to the first half but the second half is completely different! I'd say what Woolford brings is, if not an acid house sensibility then certainly a bleepier, techier vibe, that big ascending hook in the second half is what makes the track for me. Sensibly he doesn't mess with the original's bassline as well - the bass pads are what put me off the Mosca version (although I like the strings and the bird noises).

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:01 (twelve years ago) link

If we're talking Woolford then maybe his acidy sensibility comes out more on tunes like the second half of this absolute banger:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnmsZaaSJrg

This is also marvellous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-_pSv9Qh3U

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 13:08 (twelve years ago) link

rizzla (on kingdom's f2m label)'s free collab ep with blk.adonis is pretty on-point

http://soundcloud.com/rizzladj/bekiki-blk-adonis-rizzla-pnp

http://db.tt/yfTZIBgx (ep dl)

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

lol why is Talib Kweli on the Donaeo album

The Reverend, Thursday, 27 October 2011 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

also lol: Donaeo's James Brown impression

The Reverend, Thursday, 27 October 2011 09:00 (twelve years ago) link

Is Kweli the first US rapper to appear on an (I'm assuming) UK funky track? As a guest in his own right rather than remix form, I mean.

He strikes me as the worst possible rapper to put over funky but that's neither here nor there.

Matt DC, Thursday, 27 October 2011 09:31 (twelve years ago) link

ha i didn't realise that was talib kweli, the promo version came without guest vocalist info (SO ANNOYING WHY CAN'T PEOPLE FIX UP)

lex pretend, Thursday, 27 October 2011 09:36 (twelve years ago) link

new EP in a couple weeks with "stalker ha"/"let you no"/other stuff

http://soundcloud.com/blogtracks/kingdom-dreama-ep

The Reverend, Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

mndr - cut me out (kingdom rmx)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAGICuVXwBk

fauxmarc, Monday, 7 November 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

New mix
http://www.thefader.com/2012/01/06/download-fade-to-minds-fader-mix/

Number None, Saturday, 7 January 2012 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

lol he did the soundtrack to darkness ii!

fauxmarc, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

http://agenda.complex.com/thedarknessii

fauxmarc, Thursday, 9 February 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

haven't had a chance to listen to this yet but

http://soundcloud.com/fadetomind/fadefm-july27-2012-kingdom

The Reverend, Monday, 30 July 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

http://soundcloud.com/fadetomind/fadefm-11-2-12

^^^^2.5 hour mix with mikeq, nguzus, total freedom. yeaaaaaaaaaaaah

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Saturday, 10 November 2012 04:40 (eleven years ago) link

(deej if he is reading this will prob be interested to hear it has "mirror dance" v near the beginning)

thraeds of life (The Reverend), Saturday, 10 November 2012 04:41 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...
three months pass...

I guess this is maybe not the best existing thread for it, but here's an excellent interview with Rizzla about appropriation in dance music:

http://www.factmag.com/2013/04/08/get-to-know-it-and-you-wont-want-to-rip-it-off-fade-to-minds-rizzla-on-confronting-appropriation-and-humanizing-the-exotic/

sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

love "bank head". the part where the vocals keep jumping up to those high notes kept reminding me of something, finally figured out that it's 'stillness is the move'.

(rizzla article is great too)

shit tie (Jordan), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

"Bank Head" is totally on slow burner status

sandra dayo connor (The Reverend), Monday, 8 April 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

it hasn't burned for me yet, felt a bit like a lesser "take me"

though this whole axis has been disappointing me for a year or more now so *shrug*

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

f2m/ns/qb camp's been hyping kelela for a bit, i haven't listened to other stuff she's done yet. she was opening on the solange tour, dunno if still.

but yeah this rules, he's been dropping it in his mixes for a while now and it's always stood out.

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 03:52 (eleven years ago) link


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