Garbage - Garbage

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Er, Stupid Girl I guess. Not a great band, though I had this album for some reason.

I thought this was going to be the future of music when I bought this at 16. Funny how they evaporated into the ether. Can you believe they headlined the last day of Reading in... '99?

Voted the first track for the stop/start rockiness, although I don't remember a lot about the album as a whole.

Well, this was the definition of "Corporate Rock", in that they had a product, they hired a frontperson, and ticked all the boxes. They never were a 'last gang in town' for sure.

Can you believe they headlined the last day of Reading in... '99?

# 2009: Kings of Leon, Arctic Monkeys, Radiohead
# 2008: Rage Against The Machine, The Killers, Metallica
# 2007: Razorlight, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Smashing Pumpkins
# 2006: Franz Ferdinand, Muse, Pearl Jam
# 2005: Pixies, Foo Fighters, Iron Maiden
# 2004: The Darkness, The White Stripes, Green Day
# 2003: Linkin Park, Blur, Metallica
# 2002: The Strokes, Foo Fighters, Guns 'N' Roses (Leeds only), The Prodigy
# 2001: Travis, Manic Street Preachers, Eminem

yes

i think their whole deal was being as nakedly corporate rock as possible? whereas radiohead tied themselves in knots over it and ended up being shit.

possibly, but then the idea "corporate rock = future" is built-in wrong.

i think they were using the irony

i remember liking pretty much every song on this, but not how any of them go!

# 2005: Pixies, Foo Fighters, Iron Maiden

this was the best festival I've been to even if half the bands I saw turned out to go to shit after (babyshamblols, bloc party, futureheads - missed arcade fire to see sleater-kinney tho! good times)

'only happy when it rains' cause that was their single, I think...? if I had bought this album as a teenager, would I have turned out goth...-ish?

Well, one example I was just going to add anyway: (xposts)

Jesus & Mary Chain "Happy when it rains" - liberation from something, refreshing rain washing it all away..

Garbage "Only happy when it rains" - lol irony

garbage are way the hell >>> j&mc imo

it's irony, not sarcasm

I remember really liking their second album

who mentioned sarcasm?

I think "irony" becomes "sarcasm" when you put a "lol" in front of it maybe?

Anyways I really like this album, I'd have to listen to it again to choose a winner.

If we were doing Version 2.0 it'd be "You Look So Fine" no question, their pinnacle I think.

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Possibly, tho I don't think "only" is sarc.

xpost a few

oooh. yeah fuck some new 2010 balls, i'm pulling the trigger on this instead.

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spritual & sonic forebearer to britney blackout? HMMM?

2nd album definitely w/r/t sonics. Both albums spiritually i guess?

yeah possibly a little overextended now i think about it, but then since track 1 chorus is sneering "make a whole new religion / a falling star that u cannot live without / and i'll feed your obsession / there is nothing but this thing you'll never doubt" at me right now i may as well greenlight the venture

Britney would do a dab hand cover of "Queer" probably. Or is that too obvious? It'd sound exactly the same as the original probably.

yes ur right, i think that would be good but lack the certain grain.

apropos of not very much, have you heard beyonce doing alanis 'you oughta know' interpolations into 'single ladies' on her live sets? boss stuff.

voted for "Supervixen," this album opens pretty awesomely

might go with vixen or 'only happy when it rains'.

on further thought britney could do 'vow' fine too but it'd be way too tryhard; 'stupid girl' on the other hand might create enough of a laughing with you/laughing at you/hey i remember this song! vortex of complicit idiocy to actually be quite popular.

must confess i was acting too cool for school by the time the 2nd album came out to ever listen to it. though i don't doubt its purported merits, checking it now just seems inadvisable all round sadly.

I'm with Grouty on this one, these guys just seemed like cynical hacks to me at the time.

...Especially compared to Shirley's previous mob:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDe3fngwIXk

Have not heard Beyonce-on-Alanis at all, I can imagine that being amazing though.

must confess i was acting too cool for school by the time the 2nd album came out to ever listen to it. though i don't doubt its purported merits, checking it now just seems inadvisable all round sadly.

Yes I think even I wouldn't give it the time of day necessary to fall in love with it if I heard it for the first time now. Though I highly recommend "You Look So Fine" as a furtive download you can deny if interrogated later.

"Only Happy When It Rains" over "Vow."

Version 2.0 is superior though; I used to say at the time that it was a Parallel Lines of the nineties.

beyoncé doing alanis is indeed awesome, luckily had avoided all word of it until i saw her actually do it.

the second album is about half great half poor IIRC: i do remember being quite taken with the relentless wall-of-sound electronic production. the third album just looked like self-parody.

I'm with Grouty on this one, these guys just seemed like cynical hacks to me at the time.

― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:04 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

they were laying bare the device. voted supervixen.

who cares about their cynicism?

imho it's more of a hack move to claim to be all-real all-the-time than to acknowledge that yes, we are paid musicians performing this for you, with you in mind.

they were laying bare the device.

Yeah but other people were doing this at the time, and in much more imaginative ways (e.g. the KLF). Garbage was just plodding pub-rock made by studio stooges.

who cares about their cynicism?

Just about the only way I can swallow hoary old rock'n'roll is if it's been dipped in just a little romance.

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yeah when i think of the sound on this album the phrase "pub-rock" immediately springs to mind

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There's something intensely dislikable about Shirley Manson. She looks more like a mardy estate kid than a mysterious seductress.

Something about this band turns people into Anthony DeCurtises and Jann Wenners.

sort of the point? grumpy teenage goth gets to play at rockstar femme fatale

xp

tbh garbage's production - both the electronic tinge and the shininess of it all - made them a lot more interesting to me than most other british bands doing the dregs-of-britpop rounds at the time

i have FOUND MY COPY of this! i shall play it imminently

yeah when i think of the sound on this album the phrase "pub-rock" immediately springs to mind

Sure, there's a lot of technical flash there but, it's sitting on top of a pretty mundane chassis isn't it?

Yeah but other people were doing this at the time, and in much more imaginative ways (e.g. the KLF). Garbage was just plodding pub-rock made by studio stooges.

― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:37 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

they were doing something more complicated than the klf. no-one looked for authenticity/realness in stadium house or novelty tracks. but that's exactly what post-grunge corporate rock traded on. so for garbage to f w that is more intesting to me than what the klf did. also they were good.

Well, there you go, I've got no use for post-grunge corporate rock, so all the other stuff is lost on me.

relistening now and kind of loving it, haha. only track that's struck a flinchy note so far is the chugga-chugga rock of "not my idea". the production is just so polished!

I voted for Vow as it still sounds really great. I can't actually think of a better example of a band who never topped their first single.

stupid girl

I loved this for a couple of weeks when it came out and haven't felt the urge to listen to it ever since.

Also: Curve > Garbage

i still listen to that version 2.0 bullshit

i LOVE PUSH IT

bbbut the 90s corp machine would only allow me to choose between garbage and bush

remember that rolling stone cover of what's his name

rip smart studios

http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/images/RSCovers/bush.jpg

omg

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for me this is either "Stroke of Luck", "Vow", or "As Heaven is Wide".

There's something intensely dislikable about Shirley Manson. She looks more like a mardy estate kid than a mysterious seductress.

― BTW, I'm frightfully middle-class (chap), Thursday, January 28, 2010

this thread is like a GOP debate: the batshit is so disgusting that I can only point and laugh