then why did u ask
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link
http://cdn1.libsyn.com/dsco/Having_One_on_Her.jpg?nvb=20100224212639&nva=20100225213639&t=068740464a68973e866a0
― mottdeterre, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link
http://fuckyeahjoannanewsom.tumblr.com/
― ksh, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Heaven has no words for the way you and your friends have treated poor Louis.
― Turangalila, Thursday, 25 February 2010 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link
lol I did come in a bit brashly with the off-topic feminist mudslinging, even if it was to illustrate a defence of JN whom up until yesterday I was pretty sure I didn't like much
― joagga lousome (acoleuthic), Thursday, 25 February 2010 00:05 (fourteen years ago) link
That was a line from the title track, LJ. :P
― Turangalila, Thursday, 25 February 2010 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link
clearly that's her take on the whole LJ-ILX debacle
― Turangalila, Thursday, 25 February 2010 00:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Ha! Well as JD said, she's totally hopped on my bandwagon; lyrical dedications are the least I expect. I may have to give this record a listen at some stage - I'm not bursting at the collar to do so but I've completely made my peace with JN. May she fulfil her vision. Like I said amid the sound and fury, Ys should have been indexed, marketed and released as a single piece, and I'm a little hesitant to deal with an album of hers that contains so many discrete bits of music. I can't imagine listening to the individual songs of Ys.
― joagga lousome (acoleuthic), Thursday, 25 February 2010 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link
Sawdust & Diamonds and maybe Cosmia work pretty well by themselves imo. But then I'm one of those people who think the rest was dragged down by VDP's orchestral muck.
Laurie & I got this new one on LP this past Monday but haven't really listened, I think we will tonight.
― sleeve, Thursday, 25 February 2010 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link
it will change your life
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 25 February 2010 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kyblvkt2Tq1qzclhao1_400.jpg
appears to be both sleeping and drinking champagne in the back of a car - 1st class WKIW material.
I have listened to this album and I like it. Won't be sure how much it's changed the world till I listen to it in my magical hidden cave, tho.
(as one of the crazy overenthusiastic fans I can't work out how much I mean that.)
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 25 February 2010 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link
@tylerw @ksh @Mr. Que
It was me, loves! Mwah! (Re: http://huggingthenewjoannanewsomalbum.tumblr.com/)
― Ursell Anning, Thursday, 25 February 2010 00:57 (fourteen years ago) link
Hahaha! So great. And I'm quoted next to Stereogum, The Village Voice, and Carles under the title. Thanks!
― ksh, Thursday, 25 February 2010 01:48 (fourteen years ago) link
I fear the parody blogs.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 February 2010 01:49 (fourteen years ago) link
http://huggingnedraggett.tumblr.com ?
― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 25 February 2010 01:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Everyone should fear that.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 February 2010 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh wow, sweet: Mike Powell reviewed the record!
http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-02-23/music/joanna-newsom-somewhat-simplified
― ksh, Thursday, 25 February 2010 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link
My only thing about the hugging-the-record Tumblr is that none of the people on it are actually hugging the record, except for maybe on guy but it's hard to tell.
― ksh, Thursday, 25 February 2010 01:59 (fourteen years ago) link
*one
all of those "huggers" need professional help
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:00 (fourteen years ago) link
ok...so i've listened to this 3 times through//and the only song i'm not really feeling as yet is Ribbon Bows
― tincub, Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Is that second hugger Mike White?
― dylan's craggy larynx (jaymc), Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link
hey, that village voice article isn't terrible!
― by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:14 (fourteen years ago) link
although i think maybe he gets some lyrics wrong and consequently understates their weirdness.
― by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't want to be flip about this, because I do think Newsom is someone who rewards a patient and curious ear, but I've listened to the album twice now and I'm still waiting for it to click with me. Lots of people seem to be welcoming her new, mellower, more rounded voice; me, I never had a problem with the old one, and I miss its raw spark. More than that, though, I'm just not finding a lot to latch onto. There's something to be said for giving the songs more space, but I *liked* that Ys seemed to breathlessly spiral from one dynamic melody to the next. "Good Intentions Paving Company" is the only one so far that's made my ears perk up. But again: she's not someone I write off easily, so I'll be digging in further.
― dylan's craggy larynx (jaymc), Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link
@ksh There will be more huggy/makey-outy ones to come.
― Ursell Anning, Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link
stoked
― joagga lousome (acoleuthic), Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link
can you wear a daisy-chain and ride a pony in the next one? it would do her music justice :)
Maybe most importantly, her lyrics are easier to follow and harder to tune out.
"Easier to follow" I get, "harder to tune out" I don't. Newsom's first two records were filled with this marvelously dense poetry bubbling with polysyllables and sung so up-front and eagerly, it was almost impossible to tune it out. And I'm someone who tunes out lyrics as a matter of course. I guess his point is that all of that relentless thorniness was wearying; maybe my point is that that's what it takes for someone like me to pay attention to words.
― dylan's craggy larynx (jaymc), Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link
some of these reviews are making it sound like I would really dig this record tbh
think I'll listen to old mercyful fate records instead tho
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 02:55 (fourteen years ago) link
J0hn, have you heard any of her older stuff?
― ksh, Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:01 (fourteen years ago) link
you're joking right? I was a pretty big stan for Milk-Eyed Mender actually, as I've said multiple times on this thread I think she's a pretty great lyricist. but the joys of her music are mere appetizers for the full banquet spread of making fun of people who like her music.
unless you mean pre-MEM in which case no I haven't
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:07 (fourteen years ago) link
pre-MEM she recorded under the name "amy grant"
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:10 (fourteen years ago) link
No, I wasn't joking! Just missed the part where you mentioned you've heard her stuff before. Somehow. But that's cool!
― ksh, Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:13 (fourteen years ago) link
ha!
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link
amy grant wishes she could write about unicorns as well as joanna newsom
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link
in 2004 I wrote this about her:
Joanna Newsome’s better than, umm, all them other space-alien voiced women with harps who made records this year. (Keep your pants on, haters: I also dug The Milk-Eyed Mender, though the way some of you people started giving it the Bjork treatment — using words like “special,” or, worse, “sacred” — made me wanna spit bile just to maintain a little cosmic balance.)
however I feel I have streamlined my style now and would like to amend that graf to read "lol unicorns"
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:17 (fourteen years ago) link
also joanna newsome will never make a record as good as any of amy grant's records no matter how hard she tries and anybody who says otherwise is wrong & lying
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link
that includes amy grant's christmas records btw & also the song "grape, grape joy"
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:19 (fourteen years ago) link
amy grant v. joanna newsom is less interesting than amy grant v. easy-e, which was the subject of another brilliant ilx thread.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link
*yawn*
― guammls (QE II), Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:20 (fourteen years ago) link
― guammls (QE II), Wednesday, February 24, 2010 10:20 PM (36 seconds ago)
see we warned you not to listen to HOOM & now you're sleepy
don't blame the messengers man
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link
there are presently-working women songwriters who are considerably better than AG who don't get mileage because they don't give christian dudes a born-again boner
― velko, Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:23 (fourteen years ago) link
amy grant's charms do not affect only christians. she has shiksappeal.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link
lol u mad velko
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:25 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i don't know about that... but now i'm rocking "don't break the oath" and have awoken.. must jump around
― guammls (QE II), Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:26 (fourteen years ago) link
HOOM is a great dance record, it's true.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link
is this woman like a fine wine or what seriouslyhttp://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/00/61/27/image_7027610.jpg
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link
pretty sure baby baby was about a unicorn
Baby, baby, go walkin' through the forestThe birds above a-singin' you a chorus
― velko, Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:27 (fourteen years ago) link
man don't even get me started tyler
greatest artist of the 20th century, no exceptions
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 25 February 2010 03:28 (fourteen years ago) link