The "classical" music you buy from Boomkat (2010): a thread to discuss Sylvain Chauveau, Johann Johannsson, Peter Broderick, Olafur Arnalds and others

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Recommendations?

Criticisms?

djh, Sunday, 3 January 2010 19:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

And perhaps to consider this assertion, from a friend: "I have regularly wondered if it's pointless listening to Peter Broderick/Olafur Arnalds when solo piano stuff is probably done best by those who have stood the test of centuries."

djh, Sunday, 3 January 2010 19:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

Not sure if this is quite inside the Boomkat context, but I'm very fond of this band.

Joe Pass Filter (MaresNest), Sunday, 3 January 2010 20:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

"I have regularly wondered if it's pointless listening to Peter Broderick/Olafur Arnalds when solo piano stuff is probably done best by those who have stood the test of centuries."

Nah, listening to new stuff lets you be part of the test of centuries.

Monophonic Spree (Paul in Santa Cruz), Monday, 4 January 2010 01:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

But certainly there's more interesting new stuff out there besides quasi-classical music aimed at the indie set?

Sailor Tuxedo Moon Mask (Daruton), Monday, 4 January 2010 01:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

For the most part, I agree with both of the two previous posts.

djh, Monday, 4 January 2010 11:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

I do find Richard Skelton quite moving:

http://www.mixcloud.com/FluidRadio/richard-skelton-exclusive/player/

djh, Friday, 8 January 2010 22:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

a lot of that boomkat modern classical kinda stuff is really wonderful

A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Friday, 8 January 2010 22:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

who do you rate in particular?

djh, Saturday, 9 January 2010 16:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

Richard Skelton is one of my very favourite musicians of the last few years. Everything he's done that I have is amazing; particularly notable is the attention to the physical packaging etc (though even without that, the music is amazing).

toby, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 18:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

What would you go for next, after "Landings"?

djh, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 19:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

i really like Olafur Arnalds. i haven't heard much of his other music, but 'the blue notebooks' by max richter--while a fairly obvious and PFM-approved pick--is really great. 'a box of birch' by a broken consort is good (another skelton project, i think?) would leyland kirby/the caretaker count?

A™ machine (sic) (omar little), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 19:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

Loving the Kirby album, all three discs of it.

Interesting that Richter's album on the (um, late) Late Junction imprint got picked up by FatCat's neo-classical off-shoot.

djh, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 19:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

these were the other three Type things that arrived from boomkat the other day (in addition to zelienople mentioned elswhere). not listened to it all in depth yet but have shuffled it during last three commutes. i got the On lp (ambient drones), the Goldmund (reminds me of music for airports piano bits) and the recent Helios (like the quiet bits of mogwai)

http://typerecords.com/releases <- handy podcast section

there's also a boomkat winter sale featuring a lot of Type lps, mine came to about £4 each

> "I have regularly wondered if it's pointless listening to Peter Broderick/Olafur Arnalds when solo piano stuff is probably done best by those who have stood the test of centuries."

i kinda thought the same with the goldmund, whether there were classical piano works i should be looking up, but in addition to rather than instead of.

koogs, Thursday, 14 January 2010 10:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Koogs, thanks for the heads-up on the Boomkat deals. I went for the On record too. Sounds awesome: "SYLVAIN CHAUVEAU AND STEVEN HESS REWORKED BY DEATHPROD... this is the great 'lost' Deathprod album".

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 14 January 2010 10:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

that On cover pic as well, is lovely (folded out is even better). a lot of the Type records have covers that remind me of red house painters 4ad sleeves.

koogs, Thursday, 14 January 2010 10:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Also went for the ON cd ...

djh, Thursday, 14 January 2010 10:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that whole visual aesthetic is something that I'm quite easily sold on. x-post

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Thursday, 14 January 2010 10:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

(On photographer has more photos here:
http://blog.shawnconvey.com/#57065/Your-Naked-Ghost )

koogs, Thursday, 14 January 2010 11:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

Woah unexpected mental guitars on the last track of Olafur Arnald's Eulogy for Evolution.

Eluvium's piano stuff definitely worth a mention here - An Accidental Memory in Case of Death, When I Live by the Garden and the Sea. Also Copia, and Miniatures under his name of Robert Cooper Clarke, more instrumentation but still of the 'classical' bent.

Would be happy to listen to older stuff if I knew of any that sounded like this, but aside from Satie, I don't. Recommendations welcome!

CATBEAST 7777 (ledge), Thursday, 14 January 2010 11:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

> Woah unexpected mental guitars on the last track of Olafur Arnald's Eulogy for Evolution.

mental guitars = industrial revolution

koogs, Thursday, 14 January 2010 12:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

so anyway, pilfering the Type podcasts. and there's pme by Simon Scott, ex-ex-ex of slowdive. and there's a link to his blog. and there's an lp by him ('Navigare') and a link to Boomkat who gave it record of the week last october

http://typerecords.com/typecasts/9
http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=232012

is in a similar vein to the On record (in the way all ambient stuff sounds the same) but with tinges of the old slowdive sound (or am i imagining that?)

(typed in classical piano to amazon's mp3 downloads site. millions of hits. oh um)

koogs, Friday, 15 January 2010 12:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

What would you go for next, after "Landings"?

Either "Marking Time" or "Box of Birch", I guess. It's all good though.

toby, Friday, 15 January 2010 13:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

On a piano bent, it's not exactly the same as this stuff, but if you don't know Chopin's Nocturnes, you should definitely check them out.

toby, Friday, 15 January 2010 13:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

this week's boomkat recommendations (link should be good for future use too):

http://boomkat.com/genres/32/recommendations

the Minamo sounds nice from the samples (but i have more cheap Type records to check out first). the Owen Pallett is miss categorised i think, sounds more like the beach boys.

i also find there's some crossover with the Dark Ambient / Drone / Metal genre

http://boomkat.com/genres/137/recommendations

(the mp3 versions have samples of all tracks, not just the three they choose for the cds)

koogs, Saturday, 16 January 2010 13:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

*Loving* On's Your Naked Ghost Comes Back At Night.

djh, Monday, 18 January 2010 21:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

If you like Johann Johannsson you should investigate ... ? (contemporary or otherwise)

djh, Monday, 18 January 2010 21:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

On's a bit bleak for my tastes. Where's the choons?

CATBEAST 7777 (ledge), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 14:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

Palmless Prayer/Mass Murder Refrain by Mono & World's End Girlfriend is a bit Johannsonesque. Well it has violins anyway. Pretty miserablist though.

CATBEAST 7777 (ledge), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 15:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

I have never heard of these composers. I assume they sound something like Satie informed by minimalism with subtle O'Rourke-ish electronic touches, with higher production values and lower standards of performance technique than most 'new music'? Which could be great or not, depending.

(Ha, OK, just noticed the Satie comparison.)

Sundar, Wednesday, 20 January 2010 15:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the Skelton link!

Sundar, Thursday, 21 January 2010 17:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

Johann Johannsson & Greg Haines (?) live in London in May:
http://www.last.fm/event/1380575+Arctic+Circle+Presents+-+J%C3%B3hann+J%C3%B3hannsson+-+Greg+Haines

take me to your lemur (ledge), Friday, 22 January 2010 12:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

Hildur Gudnadottier's Without Sinking deserves a special mention.

(Any thoughts on her other releases? I haven't heard them).

djh, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 08:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

this thread title cracks me up and is so otm

ben bernankles (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 08:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

Do any of these artists get reviewed as "classical" music in anywhere other than the Wire? Do they get coverage in what might be described as "traditional" classical music magazines?

djh, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 14:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

the actual boomkat category is 'classical / home listening / ambient' and it's pretty much a catch all for slow quiet stuff.

koogs, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 14:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Do they get coverage in what might be described as "traditional" classical music magazines?

judging from a cursory search, not at all.

take me to your lemur (ledge), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 14:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

Never bought it myself, but I think that the BBC Music magazine (mostly classical, some jazz too) has Late Junction-type stuff in it (Late Junction being the one mainstream radio programme that plays this sorta stuff).

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 14:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

Nils Frahm added to the Johann Johannsson show.

djh, Friday, 29 January 2010 22:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

Akira Rabelais has a new album coming out soon. Everyone should listen to Eisoptrophobia. Lovely, haunted reworkings of gorgeous piano pieces from the likes of Satie et al.

Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Friday, 29 January 2010 22:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

Frahm's The Bells sounded lovely earlier while cleaning the kitchen; Johannsson's Virdulegu forsetar sounding gorgeous now (possibly my favourite classical album ever, up there with my favourite albums of any genre); have also been enjoying Valgeir Sigurdsson's Draumalandid.

djh, Saturday, 30 January 2010 22:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

Anyone heard the Rachel Grimes album?

djh, Wednesday, 3 February 2010 10:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

BTW, djh, thanks for starting this thread...hadn't heard Chauveau or Arnalds yet and grabbed a bunch of both. The Arnalds albums I got have rapidly become some of my favourites.

Anyone else picked up the newish Johannsson soundtrack to the film Varmints? Grabbed it on vinyl and ripped it to MP3 (guess the CD isn't out yet) but there seems to be some weird distortion that comes in on the last track of side one...not sure if that's part of the sound or whether my rip was bad...was perfectly clear up until that point. Either way, enjoyed the album.

Sean Carruthers, Friday, 5 February 2010 03:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

the Varmints soundtrack turned up in today's boomkat newsletter (vinyl only until april it says) and actually goes by the snappy title "And In The Endless Pause There Came The Sound Of Bees"

samples here:
http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=245281

koogs, Friday, 5 February 2010 11:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

You can get Varmints on CD - it came out as a tour CD - I got my copy from Insound. It's being re-issued in the UK in April.

djh, Friday, 5 February 2010 16:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

Free compilation that partly matches this thread's aesthetic here: http://jointhecircle.net/

djh, Friday, 5 February 2010 20:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

nils frahm's wintermusik sounding fucking gorgeous right now (washing the dishes, glass of red on the go).

djh, Saturday, 13 February 2010 18:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

Want to echo the Richard Skelton love upthread - Landings is great. Maybe I just don't listen to enough of this sort of thing, but the strings on it sound fantastic, there's a really earthy resonance to them.

We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Saturday, 13 February 2010 20:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

In the mood to buy a record in this genre ... Any suggestions?

djh, Saturday, 20 February 2010 16:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

One artist you may want to check out is Harold Budd - a lot of good albums dating back to the 70s, even. It varies a bit, from very piano-heavy to highly processed, so you'll want to preview them first I guess. I have a soft spot for Lovely Thunder and his collab with the Cocteau Twins, Moon and the Melodies but people often point to The White Arcades as a good starting point. (He also has some newer releases too which I'm somewhat less familiar with.)

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 22 February 2010 17:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://pitchfork.com/advance/321-mccanick/

djh, Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:27 (10 months ago) Permalink

^ New Johann Johannsson

djh, Thursday, 23 January 2014 23:27 (10 months ago) Permalink

Right then ... I've got a £20 voucher to spend at Boomkat. Half might go on a Jacaszek re-issue. The rest?

djh, Saturday, 25 January 2014 17:19 (10 months ago) Permalink

Do you already have the latest Olafur Arnalds disc? That one particularly resonated with me. His seasoning of the album with the occasional song works really well.

doug watson, Saturday, 25 January 2014 23:47 (10 months ago) Permalink

^ This is very nice, by the way.

djh, Monday, 3 February 2014 20:35 (10 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Loving this and the album it comes from:

djh, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 21:45 (9 months ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

This album has been knocking me out today - Hildur Gudnadottir: Saman, released a couple of weeks ago.

http://youtu.be/joDTBhYmITE

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 20 July 2014 05:57 (5 months ago) Permalink

Need more of this type of thing...

Ned Trifle X, Thursday, 31 July 2014 22:03 (4 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Anything good/recent?

djh, Friday, 22 August 2014 17:05 (4 months ago) Permalink

No?

djh, Sunday, 24 August 2014 16:38 (3 months ago) Permalink

There's a new ep just released by Lucy Claire. It's only two tracks and three remixes but it's kinda great overall. Wish she'd make a full album soon.

lucyclaire.bandcamp.com/album/collaborations-no-1

doug watson, Sunday, 24 August 2014 19:30 (3 months ago) Permalink

Did anyone get into Lubomyr Melnyk's Corollaries?

djh, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 19:37 (3 months ago) Permalink

Well I have now...thanks.

Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:34 (3 months ago) Permalink

and this too:

I'd only heard James Blackshaw before via the Brethren of the Free Spirit albums which I liked also.

Ned Trifle X, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:44 (3 months ago) Permalink

From last year, but I've really been enjoying Christina Vantzou's No. 2 lately. Goes well with the recent weather - chill breezes blowing through the over-ripe vegetation of late summer, the cold hand of death poised to pull a grey veil across a weakening sun, that sort of cheery thing

john wahey (NickB), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:54 (3 months ago) Permalink

I've been listening to the Vantzou too. That and her first album, also great.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 19:57 (3 months ago) Permalink

Wasn't tempted by "Corollaries" when it first came out - played clips on Youtube and dismissed it as "novelty" - but heard again recently and it suddenly sounded impressive. Prompted me to pluck a Charlemagne Palestine album from the shelves but it sounded far too hardcore after a day at work.

Not feeling Vantzou but will give another go.

djh, Thursday, 28 August 2014 17:36 (3 months ago) Permalink

Augh, apparently I need to check this thread more regularly, just finding out about the Hildur Guðnadóttir album now! (Such is the nature of buying most of my stuff on vinyl and my local no longer carrying CDs...I'm starting to miss some of this stuff when it lands.)

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 28 August 2014 18:25 (3 months ago) Permalink

(ps yes I know that it's on vinyl but my local shops don't carry that style o'music on vinyl, generally)

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 28 August 2014 18:45 (3 months ago) Permalink

Just found out Gudnottir is playing in LA later this fall, opening for A Winged Victory for the Sullen.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 29 August 2014 00:25 (3 months ago) Permalink

Okay, I've been listening to little else other than William Ryan Fritch lately. His latest solo release, Leave Me Like You Found Me and his upcoming collaboration with Jon Mueller, Death Blues' Ensemble, are both exceptional. Although the latter isn't out until next week, it's streaming on Soundcloud right now.

doug watson, Friday, 5 September 2014 02:30 (3 months ago) Permalink

https://soundcloud.com/holly-lalanne/weird-little-piece-rough

djh, Friday, 5 September 2014 18:58 (3 months ago) Permalink

i first heard of WRF via this remix, but he's been popping up a lot lately: https://hushhushrecords.bandcamp.com/track/night-rising-william-ryan-fritch-remix

any suggestions for more pretty, minimal piano music ala Nils Frahm, 'drukqs', etc?

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 5 September 2014 19:41 (3 months ago) Permalink

Jacaszek tour:

POLAND
12.09 Gdansk
Jacaszek + Sylwester Luczak (video+lights) feat. Ania Smiszek-Wesolowska (cello)
http://www.nck.org.pl/pl/wydarzenie/2254/koncert-michal-jacaszek-sylwester-luczak

13.09. Zielona Góra
Jacaszek+Trzaska
https://www.facebook.com/events/1450505958570522/

USA TOUR

26.09 PORTLAND at Mississippi Studios
Jacaszek feat. Beth Fleenor (clarinet)performing for a special Ghostly International Showcase presented by Project Pabst.
http://www.mississippistudios.com/event/638875-jacaszek-portland/

27.09 DECIBEL FESTIVAL Seattle, Venue: The Triple Door
Jacaszek feat. Beth Fleenor (klarnet, klarnet basowy)
http://dbfestival.com/db2014/optical/5-ghostly-international

30.09 LOS ANGELES „The Golem” live score at Cinefamily, SPECTREFEST
http://www.cinefamily.org/films/spectrefest-2014/#the-golem-w-live-score-by-jacaszek

USA tour supported by Adam Mickiewicz Institute and Gdansk Municipal Office.

Tour managed by SpectreVision

djh, Monday, 8 September 2014 13:16 (3 months ago) Permalink

Mind you, I've yet to play the Touch album all the way through ...

djh, Monday, 8 September 2014 19:13 (3 months ago) Permalink

Skelton watch: http://www.corbelstonepress.com/nimrod.htm

djh, Monday, 15 September 2014 21:28 (3 months ago) Permalink

I'm a great admirer of Skelton's earlier recordings so this description makes me a bit anxious:

"The tremulous strings that characterised much of his earlier work have all but disappeared as the music is divested of ornament, revealing the coarse grain of its underlying substrate: a dark mass of shifting tonal colours suffused with filigree detail."

Will reserve judgement until hearing it.

doug watson, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 13:30 (3 months ago) Permalink

Not keen on the sound clips, I must admit - at least on initial play - but will go back to them.

djh, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 16:34 (3 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

The new Winged Victory for the Sullen record, 'Atomos', is very, very beautiful. On my first listen but it's very pastoral and sounds like a soundtrack to a non-existent film. At times it's very reminiscent of Johannssons Virtulegu Forsetar, strings wise.

definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 12:08 (2 months ago) Permalink

Getting a big Michael Nyman/Piano vibe - albeit not as full and dramatic - from it too.

definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 12:27 (2 months ago) Permalink

I've been listening to it nonstop for the last couple of days. I think it's a big improvement on their debut (which, mind you, is also good). It passes through more movements, there's more variety and changing of pace - more push and pull between the different instruments.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 7 October 2014 16:43 (2 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, love Atomos. Also enjoying the Kiasmos album -- it's Ólafur Arnalds and some other guy

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 02:23 (2 months ago) Permalink

Atomos is getting better with every listen.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 9 October 2014 03:48 (2 months ago) Permalink

Trying to find the appropriate forum to discuss my Erased Tapesophobia. Not a dislike of the music they put out, I have it on in the home a great deal. But listening to Atomos these arguments come up again, the same frustration I had with heyday GYBE or Rachels'. The "soundtrack to Myst" quality of it. It's new-age-with-classical-instruments but gets discussed as new-classical. It's so completely easy on the ears that it challenges my laissez-faire attitude towards consonance. That it could actually be improvised by anybody in a few minutes. Between Max Richter being New Music Composer #1, Tim Hecker being Noise Musician #1, I can't tell if I want to embrace The New Consonance or fart on it.

fgti, Friday, 10 October 2014 14:19 (2 months ago) Permalink

Of course everything I'm saying is not a potshot but a salute

fgti, Friday, 10 October 2014 14:22 (2 months ago) Permalink

I think I mostly think of it as new age or ambient. I really like it. But some new classical classical is kinda New Consonance as well. Those long serene Morton Feldman pieces. Arvo Pärt. Gavin Bryars (whose most famous album was released by Eno). Gorecki's third. And the new pulitzer-prize winning Become Ocean by John Luther Adams, that I mentioned on the rolling classical thread, and which is rapidly becoming one of my favourite albums of this year, and which you really should all check out!

Frederik B, Friday, 10 October 2014 15:37 (2 months ago) Permalink

all the people I know who've studied composition hate max richter

ogmor, Friday, 10 October 2014 15:54 (2 months ago) Permalink

Yeah Frederick I don't fuck with any of those composers you mentioned, except Feldman and a very rare Pärt. Younger I would've argued against them, now I'm just happy there are composers putting asses in seats. More just like I come home and my bf has got Lukas Foss on the turntable and I'm like "yesssssssss" but ultimately he wants Atomos and not Mica Levi. I'm trying to place consonance in a global, current context, trying to figure out what it means and why people respond to nicey-nice sounds so much more in film score, concert music, noise, ambient, drone etc. than they do in any other genres, where it'll make your track sound sickly

fgti, Friday, 10 October 2014 17:30 (2 months ago) Permalink

What do you mean by "classical" and "new age", fgti? (That's a non-snarky question, by the way).

djh, Friday, 10 October 2014 20:40 (2 months ago) Permalink

And why do those who've studied composition hate Richter, ogmor?

djh, Friday, 10 October 2014 20:45 (2 months ago) Permalink

Yeah it sounds as if I'm pissing on new-age I guess but I'm not. Just that the language is so safe and sound. It's nice when things are a little challenging, you know? Or maybe not?

fgti, Friday, 10 October 2014 22:07 (2 months ago) Permalink

Maybe not. There have definitely been points in my life where consonance has been outside my comfort zone/more challenging than dissonance.

djh, Friday, 10 October 2014 22:22 (2 months ago) Permalink

fgti's remarks have lead me to self-asses my opinion on this a bit. Because I definitely get that the music seems 'safe and sound'. But in the end, I think that is where the quality lies. Safe and sound is not a disqualification per se, and this ties in with what djh says about consonance.

I don't see Winged Victory as 'new age' myself; I find it a broody, emotional moving piece of work albeit in a very subtle, subdued way. Perhaps it's also because I've been a long time SotL fan and for some reason have grown to respect Adam Wiltzie but also Dustin O'Halloran for their compositional qualities to not take it for generic new-age music (as my personal definition of 'new-age' tends to be: generic soothing music, which I quite frankly can't stand).

But it's a very fine, personal line.

definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 10 October 2014 22:34 (2 months ago) Permalink

Yeah. I can't really describe why Vanessa Carlton is bad and Tori Amos is good or Clint Mansell's soundtrack to "Requiem for a Dream" is bad but Michael Nyman's for "Prospero" is good without getting exceedingly nebbish about things

And I'm typing this as an enormous fan of Atomos VII-- haven't heard the new album proper-- but also as somebody who found the s/t kind of disappointing bc it lacked the extreme long-form nature of the best of SotL and instead had prettystrings

fgti, Friday, 10 October 2014 22:45 (2 months ago) Permalink

Yeah. I agree about the Winged Victory s/t, I didn't take to that and while listening to it more and more thought of it as a 'lazy' affair (despite hating myself for thinking of that term while listening, as it can't have been lazy, made with the best intentions too, but prettystrings seemed intentional). I do think the new one is quite different though. Well thought out and despite its subdued nature has a lot going on. It is ephemeral, whimsical at times, but it does really carry me away and take me on a journey. If you took to Atomos VII I'd be very interested to hear what you think of the whole record, I think it deserves an honest chance before you lump it together with erasedtapes prettystrings :)

definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 10 October 2014 23:01 (2 months ago) Permalink

Not lumping anything in :) just always hoping to implement some aesthetic corrections in my listening

fgti, Friday, 10 October 2014 23:21 (2 months ago) Permalink

In the case of AWVFTS in particular - I definitely think of what they're doing as an evolution from ambient music, not a lazy take on classical.

For me, Stars of the Lid really opened my ears with Tired Sounds and Refinement of the Decline--when they shifted from making drone from guitars into making something more beautiful and more powerful with a small string section. Everything they've done since then--Brian McBride's solo albums and A Winged Victory--feels like steps from that point. For A Winged Victory it's less about "ambient" because of Dustin O'Halloran's piano, but to me it still feels related.

As for the rest of the Erased Tapes catalog (Nils Frahm, Olafur Arnaulds, etc), I don't really know where those guys are coming from musically to say it's "safe" or some kind of indie/poser-classical. I only know that I found my way to Erased Tapes via A Winged Victory for the Sullen so in my own mind I'm approaching it all from that perspective. That is absolutely subjective, though.

In any case I really hesitate to call it New Age, a term which has a pejorative whiff to it. I also bristle at "safe" as a descriptor of this music. I guess I don't really understand what I'm supposed to contrast that against. What would make Atomos dangerous? And would that necessarily make it better?

And as far as Atomos vs their debut - the new one is definitely superior. In the context of SotL I kinda get how you could perceive the debut as somewhat rote and less inspired. But I think on Atomos they more clearly show that they are trying to do something different. It's not just SotL with piano. (And for that matter I also like it more than a lot of the other Erased Tapes material I've heard.)

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 11 October 2014 03:27 (2 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Yes yes I am not sure I love ATOMOS but it is amazingly well written and executed, holy cow. I've listened to it ten times now and it's still surprising me with how well paced it is, subtle expansions from track to track, really impressed.

fgti, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 03:21 (1 month ago) Permalink


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