search and destroy: gorky's zygotic mynci

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i only have 'spanish dance troupe'. i also know the song that goes 'oh isn't it a lovely day' but that's it. what am i (not) missing out on?

minna, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"How I Long to Feel that Summer in My Heart" is even lovelier, I prefer it to "Dance Troupe".

Sean, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

fingers were xylophones

moon beats yellow

I reckon their best albums are Bwyd Time and Barafundle

Winkelmann, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

the worst band in the world.

piscesboy, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I don't know what they sound like, but I have been saying their name to myself obsessively this past week.

DeRayMi, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

FANTASTIC, I've been wanting to start a Gorkys thread for the past couple of days but assumed there may have already been one (that and I'm wiggedandoiiim laaaayzee).

Best Gorkys album IMHO = Bwyd Time, Worst = Gorky 5. I haven't heard much post Gorky 5 stuff sadly, and now Johns left I am a very sad kid. Tatay has some great stuff on it as well, whereas Patio is more garagey punky. Anything up to Bwyd Time will certainly be worth a listen. I especially recommend Merched yn Neud Gwallt eu Gilydd oh oh and HEART OF KENTUCKY on the fantastic Amber Gambler LP (the first rekid I evah bought offa Gorkys...) YAY! Right I am going home and listening to Gorkys tonight!!! *skips off home singing*

Peanut dispenser, peanut dispenser,
Dere lan i gweld fi'n chwa-chwa-chwarae,
Peanut dispenser, peanut dispenser,
S'dim rhaid i ti ta-ta-talu neu,
Oren neu melyn neu gwyrdd neu porffor a,
Wah wah wah wah wah, Joshua
Wah wah wah wah wah, y peanut dispenser.
Peanut dispenser, peanut dispenser
Edrych ar y bo-bo-bore
Peanut dispenser, peanut dispenser
Dangos i fi y go-go-golau
Seta plastic manw'n neud dim sens i,
Fi fi fi fi fi,
Wah wah wah wah wah, Joshua
Wah wah wah wah wah, peanut dispenser

Oh yeah, and I knew all that Welsh right off the top of my head and didn't copy or paste or nuffink. Ahem. WA WA WA WA WA, JOSH!uaaah!

Sarah, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"Heart of Kentucky" is particularly grand, to be sure.

Search...*thinks*...oh, just find everything on Ankst, for starters.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Search: Starmoonsun, Y Ffordd Oren, many others!

Vinnie, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, search quite honestly almost anything except Gorky 5.

The Girl I've Always Known; Pentref Wrth Y Mor; Diamond Dew; The Summer's Been Good From the Start...so many lovely songs.

scott pl., Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i agree, search everything except for patio which is horrible daniel johnston-ish warbling with a tame garage band feel. gorky 5 is an excellent album, minus the inexcusable russian polka number. the blue tree is probably their most perfect release for me, 'face like summer' is breathtaking. anyone have infinity chimps? it has been sitting at the store here for years, i am never even curious.

keith, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

My favourite of what I've heard is "Barafundle", which sort of captures all of their early to late ideas and affectations meeting each other head on - so you get folk and pop and psych and garagey rock and weird wizard stuff. "Patio Song" sounds great in this context too, especially when it goes off into an insanely jaunty Welsh tangent at the end. My favourite song on the album though is "Starmoonsun" - gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous and slightly ominous too, in a medieval way. Also on this tip, the lovely "Sometimes The Father Is The Son". Oooh oooh *and* the gloriously schizophrenic "The Barafundle Bumbler."

Tim, Friday, 12 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I've only jyst (intentional Gegin Nos typo) discovered GZM this year through a few friends and they are just about my new favourite band (Hives, meh). I have only really heard their Ankst stuff, but it is lodged in my brain and if anyone sees me around town appearing to talk to myself, I am probably singing Peanut Dispenser. If you find Tatay, you are a lucky, lucky person.

Damian, Saturday, 13 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Ai cymraes ydych chi, Sarah? Ddeallais i mo'r geiriau hynny y tro cyntaf.

ciaran, Saturday, 13 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Sorry...I realized that was probably a joke about knowing the Welsh off the top of your head. The previous post says "I didn't understand those lyrics the first time I heard them".

ciaran, Saturday, 13 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

best album: bywd time. second: tatay. Ned is OTM. after barafundle it all went downhill, when, when they stopped drawing wizards n dragons on their album covers.

ambrose, Saturday, 13 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The cover art of Amber Gambler is pretty and funny at the same time. I like "Lucy's Hamper."

felicity, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

But Let's Get Together (In Our Minds) is fantastic...

Mr Swygart, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

i do like their earlier, madder stuff but to me the albums i come back to again and again are "spanish dance troupe" and "the blue trees". probably "The blue trees" because of those gorgeously evocative instrumentals. i love them. can do little wrong with me. the stuff on "patio" where their dad "has words" concerning the volume of their guitars is pretty priceless.... and "mr groovy" of course

commonswings, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Oh no I'm not Welsh, I know a bit but certainly not enough to fully understand Gorkys lyrics (which are incomprehensible enough even in my first language, heh heh). I did go home and listen to Patio by the way, and it was fantastic! Apart from a few which I always skipped anyway, Lladd Eich Gwraig being one of those. I do find it hilarious when John does his posh voice: "I say 'I say, oren, mefus a chadno'. I love the Anna Apera HEM HEM suite, for want of a better word, also.

Sarah (starry), Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Damien, if yr UK based (and I believe you are) I can easily knock you up a tape of Tatay if you wish. I found it easily (but this was ahem, several years back)!

Sarah, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Sarah - thanks, but someone has just offered me a copy on CD, otherwise I would have most gratefully accepted, and I know if I had it on tape it would be doomed to die in my tape deck through overuse. I cannae resist the spoken bits on Anna Apera.

Damian, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

only any good up to barafundle. after that, rubbish. its funny, its not often you get to say "they were good until they stopped the wizard schtick" is it? i mean, wizards! who'd have thought?

gareth, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I've always had a soft spot for the Miss Trudi EP.

Anna, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Dude, I feel like I'm having the goddamn Welsh dream. I've been having it since I was a child and I first saw Welsh language television, and it scared the crap out of me. In this recurring nightmare, I go to sleep, and the next day I wake up and overnight Welsh has been made the official language of Britain, and everyone is walking around speaking in Welsh, and no one will speak in English, except in very heavily accented English and the only thing they'll do is laugh at how stupid the English are.

I had this dream again last night, for the first time in years and it scared the crap out of me.

Erm, yeah. GZM. They have a song called "A Game Of EYES!!!!!" which also scares the crap out of me.

kate, Monday, 15 July 2002 00:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...
Gareth's comment above makes me feel *violent*. I never feel violent.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 14 June 2003 18:58 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I reckon their best albums are Bwyd Time and Barafundle

I'd say Barafundle 's their bestest.
And Gorky 5 the piss-poorest.

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 14 June 2003 19:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"Gorky 5" is strong compared to the ones that followed... (i haven't touched anything after "G5" since the first listen after the purchase)

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 15 June 2003 02:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

In other words.. Gareth OTM. Sorry Nick.

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 15 June 2003 02:03 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

AW man! These guys are classic! I have everything except for the Blue Trees mini album. You really can't go wrong with them. Early stuff is silly and wizardy and later stuff is lilting and pastoral. I think Barafundle is the quintessential release but Spanish Dance Troupe is gorgeous too. Gorky 5 is a bit weird - kindof cold and wintry but not without it's great points (Hush The Warmth being their all time best song.).

Search:
1. Hush The Warmth
2. The Game Of Eyes
3. Can Megan
4. Murder Ballad
5. Spanish Dance Troupe
6. Catrin
7. Diamond Dew/Barafundle Bumbler/Starmoonsun/Patio Song (they have to be heard in order for some reason)
8. Dyle Fi
9. If Fingers Were Xylophones
10. Queen of Georgia
11. Blood Chant
12. Stood On Gold

I still don't know what to make of their latest album - the first half is great but the second is a bit boring and the whole thing is lacking in weirdness. Shit cover too.

dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 15 June 2003 11:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

the last album was fantastic, so was the one before it. euros childs is heading towards unappreciated genius status rather quickly as each album becomes more and more low-key. the new album 'sleep/holiday' is out on august 18th. it will be spellbindingly beautiful and lovely and everyone here will want more russian polka numbers, the website says the songs are longer this time. '5' is great, the iciest record for sure, and i do miss john lawrence's sissy voice although not enough to risk picking up an infinity chimps cd. their cover of 'poor ditching boy' should get an official release sometime but as that was a john thing it probably won't.

keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 15 June 2003 15:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

what's infinity chimps?

what's "20" like?

dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 15 June 2003 15:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Sometimes I think I have composed a great melody or harmony in my head, then I listen to a Gorky's record and wonder why I even bother. Or other people.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 15 June 2003 15:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
Alright I suddenly realised I want to increase my Gorky's fandom beyond Barafundle and Introducing... Only there's so many albums I can't work out which to get first. If it helps, I don't listen to Introducing... much and when I listen to Barafundle I gravitate towards "Starmoonsun" and the like as opposed to, say, "Heywood Lane". In other words I prefer the stuff that sounds like being lost in the woods and discovering elves than the stuff that sounds like being over at yer mum's with uncle bill for tea and scones and singalongs.

What should I get?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 2 September 2004 03:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink

They (more or less) dropped the wizards and lizards schtick after Barafundle (fair play, I don't think they could have improved on it much after that point). I shall briefly describe each album after that:

Gorky 5 - I always imagine the band being trapped in one of those snowglobes. Lots of grandiose swirling ballads. A lot of people don't like it so much because it was such a step away from Barafundle but in it's defense it does have some excellent moments, among them "Sweet Johnny", "Dyle Fi", "Catrin" and the remarkable "Hush The Warmth".

Spanish Dance Troupe - A slight return to their odder days. I'd say this was their most like Barafundle but not exactly. "Faraway Eyes" reminds me of Cockney Rebel in a weird way and the title track is awesome. I'd say this is one of their strongest later albums.

The Blue Trees - Many peoples favourites but not mine. It's a live in the studio acoustic mini album. It's not awful by any means, just a bit short and straightforward for me. "Face Like Summer" and their version of "Fresher Than The Sweetness In Water" are both awesome.

How I Long To Feel That Summer In My Heart - I was disappointed by this one at first but in recent months it's become one of my all-time favourites. Tim, I think you'd like "Can Megan" off of this one as it's kind of similar to "Starmoonsun". Like Gorky 5, this album takes a bit of adjusting to as it's a totally different sound and structure to the other albums. The songs are mostly warm very well produced pop/folk ballads but there is a certain prog-iness to them. The title track for instance is based on a very simple idea that builds and builds and suddenly transforms and blossoms right at it's peak.

Sleep/Holiday - Another one which I've had since last year but have had trouble with. I can't give it classic status just yet but again there are some rated tunes on here. The prog element of the last album is raised here - there are a lot of long tracks and this disquieting stillness to the whole thing. Tracks like "Pretty As A Bee" just seem to hang there like leaves waiting to fall from trees. I'd say it's more of a mood/ambient album than anything else and apart from the rather irritating "Mow The Lawn", should be treated as such.

Over all I'd say that the quintessential Gorky's is "Barafundle". As someone said way upthread, it is where the old and new style Gorkys meet. They'd perfected their craziness and were dabbling in pop and balladeering too. I like the "Bwyd Time" album a lot as well.
Apart from "Barafundle", all the albums are well worth checking out without exception. I can't really rate one over the other as they're all very different and equally deserving.

The Gorkys are famous for mentioning the seasons in their later albums and I'd go so far as to assign a month of the year to each one. Let's do it just for fun:

Barafundle: April
Gorky 5: January
Spanish Dance Troupe: September
How I Long: July
Sleep / Holiday: November

Agree?

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 09:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I like SDT being September, what with the return to school in the title track.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 2 September 2004 09:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

oh yeh - that must be why i think that!

Alba, I'm glad there's been a spate of Groky threads cos it's made me listen to them loads recently and I think I'm starting to realise they could well be up there with Pavement, Blur and the Boo Radleys as one of my favourite bands.

I even went so far as to burn off a CD-R of the best of their non-weird chillout "How I Long"/"Dyle Fi"-style ballads and they've been the recent soundtrack to my sunny lunchbreaks.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 09:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Apart from "Barafundle", all the albums are well worth checking out without exception

Er, I didn't mean "Apart from" - I meant "As well as"

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 09:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Another vote for Bwyd Time and The Blue Trees, although I can't recall off the top of my head if the former is in print at the moment.

Richard from the band has a country-rock sideproject which I saw the weekend before last. It was pretty nice. Dunno if they've recorded anything

DJ Mencap0))), Thursday, 2 September 2004 09:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I heard that Bwyd Time, Tatay and Patio were due to be reduxed and rereleased - anyone know if this is true?

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 09:50 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Yes, as a result of Ankst splitting into two parts some years ago and most of the back catalogue being unavailable since then. Don't know a concrete release date but this has been in the works for a good year or so

DJ Mencap0))), Thursday, 2 September 2004 09:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the overview DL!

I should note that my renewed interest in GZM was inspired by realising that every time I was disappointed by some highly rated prog/psych/folk album it was because I wished it was more like Barafundle.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

yair - more people should be making music like the gorkys. more loopiness. more crazy instruments. less posturing. chzthxgnight.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:51 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I've thought about your months somre more, and they really are spot on, except How I Long To Feel That Summer In My Heart, which isn't really a summer album at all, I don't think. I associate it most with driving around an often chilly Italy in April with friends, because that's when we listened to it most. But objectively, I think it's all seasons in one.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 00:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

yeh - guess so. i think i bought it in october, which is fitting i guess. it reminds me of a really good time of my life at uni when everything seemed to be finally piecing together.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 3 September 2004 00:10 (twelve years ago) Permalink

It's can sound sad if you're sad and happy if you're happy. 'Dead Aid' is the only unremittingly dour song.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 00:14 (twelve years ago) Permalink

God, I love that album.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 3 September 2004 00:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Walking home at 8am after a hard day's night, watching the sun rise over my town with "Let Those Blue Skies" playing.

PERFECT!

dog latin (dog latin), Saturday, 4 September 2004 06:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

six months pass...
There's some wonderful archival stuff being showcased on the official Gorky's site right now.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 00:00 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I swear I danced around the room when I read that the Ankst albums were to be re-issued. That was in January 2003.

Introducing Gorky's Zygotic Mynci is one of the best compilations I have ever heard. So perfectly sequenced that it's hard to believe the songs weren't actually recorded for this end. Search that.

Deluxe (Damian), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 10:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Euros and Richard James both have solo albums coming out at some unspecified point in the future, incidentally

DJ Mencap0))), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 10:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink

That...I did not expect.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 April 2017 21:39 (one month ago) Permalink

When he left, the band became much less adventurous.

Euros' solo career has just been a string of middling or just ok releases. There have been a couple albums that are almost worth listening to a few times, but he hasn't written a great song in years. I always feel like he just isn't trying, but clearly he just lost it...

afriendlypioneer, Saturday, 8 April 2017 12:23 (one month ago) Permalink

I guess you're right but I think he does well with competition and company like most people

I saw them live in 99 or so and they were very good - on the Long to See tour

calstars, Saturday, 8 April 2017 20:14 (one month ago) Permalink

Jonny was pretty middling, too, and he was matched with an equally (at least at one time in his life) talented partner.

I've listened to everything Euros has done and hold out hope he'll write another great song. He was a fantastic songwriter at one point in his life. Truly unique and wonderful.

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 9 April 2017 00:29 (one month ago) Permalink

With a voice as sweet as honey.

afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 9 April 2017 00:29 (one month ago) Permalink

Absolutely love gorkys

How i long still my favourite and an album i listen to after 10 or whatever years

Will have to relisten to barafundle

i n f i n i t y (∞), Monday, 10 April 2017 02:17 (one month ago) Permalink

Barafundle > How I Long > Bwyd Time > Spanish Dance Troupe > Gorky 5 > Other stuff

It's all good though. That John Lawrence thing is pretty out-there huh?

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Monday, 10 April 2017 13:50 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm pretty much fine with your ranking, but Patio & Tatay are exceptionally good, as is the odds and sods compilation (which contains many songs from the first couple releases anyway).

I've never been able to get into Sleep/Holiday, but I suspect it isn't as bad as I thought it was. I need to give it another chance. "Mow the Lawn" is just really bad. I always hated those obvious "rock" singles labels seemed to force on bands.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 10 April 2017 13:56 (one month ago) Permalink

John's doing his thing, I suppose. I kind of remember enjoying an Infinity Chimps album back in the day.

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 10 April 2017 13:58 (one month ago) Permalink

I honestly think Patio is one of the greatest debut albums ever.

In its own class.

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 14:22 (one month ago) Permalink

Patio is one of their best releases, particularly on the CD version with all the extra stuff like 'Dean Ser' and 'Hi ar Gan'

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 14:27 (one month ago) Permalink

i think i only gave patio a cursory listen... IIRC it's quite garage-rocky compared to the stuff that came after?

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 14:37 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah, it's quite garage-rocky in places, particularly on stuff like 'Barbed Wire', but I hear traces of post-punk in there on stuff like 'Dafad Yn Siarad' and 'Sally Webster' ... the psychedelic folk thing wouldn't kick in until Tatay, which is sorta a middle ground between Patio and Bwyd Time.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 14:47 (one month ago) Permalink

i just can't believe how young they were when they made all this music. Bwyd Time is an exceptional psychedelic record and they were, what? 6 years old or something when they made it

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 15:53 (one month ago) Permalink

nice american music club t shirt there

calstars, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 16:11 (one month ago) Permalink

Euros Childs would have been about 20 when Bwyd Time was released. The last Gorky's LP (Sleep/Holiday) was released long before he turned 30.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 17:11 (one month ago) Permalink

And he's released nothing of note since. :(

afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 17:48 (one month ago) Permalink

I saw Gorky's live in '97 and thought they were great, then saw them again a couple of years later and thought they were shit. Prime example of "I only like the early stuff" for me unfortunately - I like most of their stuff up to and including Bwyd Time. Barafundle and Gorky 5 are OKish in parts I suppose although haven't listened to either in years. I think Spanish Dance Troupe was the contemporary album for the 2nd time I saw them so never listened to it, they seemed to go from this awesome psychedelic racket to strummy acoustic boredom.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 18:55 (one month ago) Permalink

Some of their prettiest songs are on Gorky 5 and Spanish Dance Troupe!

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 April 2017 18:58 (one month ago) Permalink

I guess I don't like their pretty songs...

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 11 April 2017 19:13 (one month ago) Permalink

I really like the pretty stuff, but I also love the weird, psychedelic Gorky's. The weirdness seemed to end with John Lawrence's departure...

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 01:01 (one month ago) Permalink

euros really seems to have followed kevin ayers' career path post gorky's.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 01:09 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm impressed that they were all listening to Soft Machine in their teens in the pre-Napster early '90s. It wouldn't be as unusual now, but back in the early '90s it was very unusual.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 01:14 (one month ago) Permalink

Hippie parents?

euros really seems to have followed kevin ayers' career path post gorky's.

Bit unfair on Kevin Ayers tbh.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 07:49 (one month ago) Permalink

I should look into the Kevin Ayers/Canterbury Scene a bit more. I love this sort of whimsical / psychedelic stuff in general so I can't believe it's taken this long. Is there a good primer or a good album to start with?

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 08:08 (one month ago) Permalink

Probably his first solo album. I'm think there's been some good KA comps over the years.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 08:20 (one month ago) Permalink

Though I seem to remember that Gorkys were particularly fond of "Shooting at the Moon".

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 08:30 (one month ago) Permalink

The only post-Barafundle GZM album I've heard is The Blue Trees (which I quite liked), I should remedy that. My favourite by far though is that collection of the early EPs.

Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:14 (one month ago) Permalink

Love Gorky's. I can really appreciate and at times adore the early weirdness ('The Game of Eyes' is as cool as it is insane and scary) but I'm mostly fond of the pretty stuff. I think that Spanish Dance Troupe is my favourite album (title track probably fave song, along with non-album single 'Young Girls & Happy Endings'). There's great songs to be found throughout their discography, for instance 'Frozen Smile' of Gorky 5 is gorgeous.
Sleep/Holiday is my least fave, I find it rather boring.

Euros solo: I have 'Chops' and 'Miracle Inn', both are nice, there's a particular highlight in the title track of Miracle Inn.

I like the Jonny album a lot too, 'Candyfloss' and 'You Was Me' are excellent.

Valentijn, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 09:39 (one month ago) Permalink

I remember Gorky 5 getting a bit of flack back in the day. I'm listening to it now and I think it's gorgeous, though a little depressing. It's also one of the only Gorky's albums to feature Euros screaming.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 15:10 (one month ago) Permalink

"Sweet Johnny" is one of those aforementioned kind of annoying rockers, though.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 15:10 (one month ago) Permalink

I just did a look at Discogs 'cos I realized the voice on a couple tracks didn't sound like Euros, and I found out John Lawrence (the proggy lad up above) did some lead vocals on Gorky 5. I actually really like his voice on this album.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 15:24 (one month ago) Permalink

Always wondered why Richard James didn't sing his own song on Barafundle (Sometimes The Father Is The Sun) but always did otherwise

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 12 April 2017 15:32 (one month ago) Permalink

John Lawrence frequently sang lead vocals on GZM songs throught his stint with the band. He wrote 'Softly', 'Not Yet' and 'Tsunami' on Gorky 5. Spanish Dance Troupe is the last LP with Lawrence.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Wednesday, 12 April 2017 15:49 (one month ago) Permalink

Hippie parents?

euros really seems to have followed kevin ayers' career path post gorky's.

Bit unfair on Kevin Ayers tbh.

― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.)

post-'74? i love both ayers and euros, but they both seem to me to be sort of wanderers.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 13 April 2017 10:50 (one month ago) Permalink

Kevin was definitely erratic, but that's almost part of who he was. I've said it here before but I like all of his albums up to and including "That's What You Get Babe", "Yes We Have No Mañanas" is one of his best albums.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 April 2017 10:56 (one month ago) Permalink

You know I completely forgot I got this last year -- and maybe I've never actually listened to it yet! Free download, 32 bands, at least some of them have to be good:

https://recordiauprin.bandcamp.com/album/iechyd-da-a-tribute-to-gorkys-zygotic-mynci

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 April 2017 12:53 (one month ago) Permalink

The "Merched Yn Neud Gwallt Eu Gilydd" cover is by Kliph Scurlock, formerly of The Flaming Lips. He's been involved in like every major Welsh band/artist's thing for the past 2 or 3 years.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 13 April 2017 13:26 (one month ago) Permalink

i liked the version of "catrin" by the gentle good.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Thursday, 13 April 2017 13:48 (one month ago) Permalink

Where there any Lawrence compositions recorded for Spanish Dance Troupe which didn't make the cut after he left the band?

I remember even at the time people were saying "Oh they were better with John Lawrence in the band", even though they had already largely changed direction by Gorky 5

PaulTMA, Thursday, 13 April 2017 14:14 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm not sure, but I'd guess not. Spanish Dance Troupe was already "in the can" by the time Lawrence left. There was a five month gap between the album being completed and it being released (which is actually pretty standard) and Lawrence left during this period.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Thursday, 13 April 2017 14:49 (one month ago) Permalink

Arguably, they were already starting to change direction on Barafundle, which increasingly seems to me to be both a "transitional" record and their most focused work.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Thursday, 13 April 2017 14:51 (one month ago) Permalink

Well, of all the solo careers, his is by far the absolute worst, so I'm not sure what did or didn't happen, but I don't think he would've done the band any good in the end.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 13 April 2017 15:07 (one month ago) Permalink

Richard James is probably the blandest, but he has some pleasant highs.

Euros veers too far into kitsch on almost all of his albums, and the experimental ones are total busts IMO. I think he just rushes his songwriting.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 13 April 2017 15:08 (one month ago) Permalink

I think with Gorky's it was basically the usual case of the band being greater than the sum of their parts. I reckon if they all collaborated as they did back in the early days of Gorky's, they could come up with something really good.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Thursday, 13 April 2017 17:34 (one month ago) Permalink

I've always wondered if perhaps John had contributed some songs to what ended up as SDT because he's completely absent from the writing credits, which seemed otherwise unusual as he was all over the others, to the extent of having three solo compositions on Gorky 5.

PaulTMA, Friday, 14 April 2017 16:51 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah, I always found that unusual too, given that he didn't leave the band until after the LP was completed... it's hard to say what happened there. Either he was going through a dry spell as a songwriter, or he had songs and the band didn't record them for whatever reason - either they didn't fit, or he'd already thought about doing solo stuff. It's hard to say, because not much has really been said about Lawrence's departure.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Friday, 14 April 2017 17:09 (one month ago) Permalink

see, SDT is overall a 'weirder' album than Gorky 5 so the idea that he was the experimental guy sdoesnt really float

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Friday, 14 April 2017 17:59 (one month ago) Permalink

and his stuff on Gorky 5 is about the most straightforward he ever did

PaulTMA, Sunday, 16 April 2017 18:02 (one month ago) Permalink

I listened to Sleep/Holiday recently because of this thread - haven't listened to it for years, but was surprised to find I only dislike 3 songs on it.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Sunday, 16 April 2017 19:53 (one month ago) Permalink


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