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Can anyone recommend some recordings of the earliest known European music? Some day, maybe when I retire 30 or so years from now, I'd like to start from that point and slowly move forward in time, or at least take in the highlights.

― DeRayMi, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm always sort of suspicious of early music recordings. How do they know that's what it was supposed to sound like? I can't help wanting to take that sort of documentary angle. (I wish I could hear examples of Sumerian music, or even more ancient forms of music; but Sumerian in particular since I wonder how close it was to what has continued to exist in the middle east.)

― DeRayMi, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

How do they know that's what it was supposed to sound like?

They don't.

― Winkelmann, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Kronos did an album of this named (no kidding) Early Music.

― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Just to clarify: before which century qualifies as "early" for the purposes of the question?

― Jeff W, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure what's considered "early." I'm willing to accept whatever the standard usage is. I want to know what good recordings are available of the earliest European music to be recorded (however recently).

― DeRayMi, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

i have a touch cd by SOLIMAN GAMIL called THE EGYPTIAN MUSIC which claims — as far as i recall, the writing on the sleevenotes is dead weeny — to recreate the music of several millennia BC...

he is a genuine musicologist as well as a composer

oddly enough the music sounds quite like menswe@r

― mark s, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Then again, Egypt is not Europe. What did those pesky Greeks play on their panflutes? Is it anything like Shakira?

― Siegbran Hetteson, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Heard an interesting program on Radio 4 last year. It had music from the Koptic church in Egypt (the Koptics are the original Egyptian christians from the first couple of centuries AD.) Allegedly this sounds pretty like the music of 2 thousand years ago. And they were trying to make a case that it probably sounded like the pre- christian, pre-roman pharaonic egyptian music as well. (I think the case was based on pictures of the same instruments in pyramids.)

― phil, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

How do they know that's what it was supposed to sound like?

They don't.

That's a bit simplistic, Winkelmann. It reminds me of what people often answer when they hear that in classical Latin, the letter C was pronounced K (so it's Kikero and Kaisar, for example, not Sisero and Seesar): "How does one know? Has anyone alive actually heard classical Latin spoken?" Um, no, but there were people alive in classical time who had an interest in language and were able to describe in writing how the letter C was pronounced as an unvoiced dorsal plosive.

Likewise, contemporary descriptions of notation systems and performance exist. It is correct that these do not give a full picture (conventions that were obvious at the time, and thus not necessary to describe, for example, are not so any more). Also, for many kinds of music you are right, and any recording is more or less complete guesswork.

But enough of the rambling! The poster wants a CANON! This post doesn't address the recording question per se, but I imagine a useful starting point would be to start from the beginning of any history of Western music, pick out what seems worthwhile to you (I, for example, am almost invariably quickly bored by monophonic chant), and use other sources or criteria (reviews, rec.music.early, price (the Naxos budget label is, I believe, fairly well regarded as VFM), this board, ...) to pick recordings.

For the filtering of repertory, as opposed to the selection of recordings, you could also take a look at this site I stumbled across the other day -- http://usoc.snu.ac.kr/mm&tem.htm -- which seems to contain Korean translations of two early-music books. The text will probably be as illegible to you as to me, but it contains links to MP3 examples, along with images of the corresponding scores. I've no idea whether the recordings there are well-regarded or frowned upon, though. (Sadly, some of the links are dead -- possibly because of copyright issues.)

― OleM, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Thanks OleM. I suppose I could just walk down to the music dept. of the library where I work and see what they have on the subject.

I am aware of the supposed connection between Coptic liturgical music and Ancient Aegyptian Musick, something I'd like to investigate more at some point. (Also want to check out Ethiopian liturgical music.)

― DeRayMi, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

I would guess we know a fair amount of what early music sounds like, but we still might have the feel quite wrong. As you point out, some conventions may not have been recorded because they were so taken for granted.

― DeRayMi, Thursday, 11 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

I want to revive this thread b/c I was thinking of starting my own. It is my understanding that, broadly speaking, "early music" refers to European composed music from before Monteverdi, i.e. the Renaissance and earlier. Is this a correct understanding?

Anyways, I bring this up because I advise all to search records by David Munrow's Early Music Consort of London. (All of them from the 1970s.) Notably Monteverdi's Contemporaries and The Art of Courtly Love. The Deller Consort has some wonderful discs as well.

Let's make this an Early Music S/D thread shall we?

― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 10 February 2003 05:18 (10 years ago) Permalink

i really like that kronos record. i suppose this makes me a classical coffeetable putz

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 10 February 2003 05:22 (10 years ago) Permalink

Well, Kronos's Early Music disc is really only half an early music disc. There are pieces by Machaut, Tye, Dowland, and Hildegard of Bingen but they are interspersed with things by Partch, Lamb, Pärt, etc. The attempt to draw a connection between contemporary minimalism and ancient composing practices is a bit facile, but I think the results speak for themselves. Their interpretations of the older pieces are quite far from those of the Early Music Consort etc., who performed them on period-appropriate instruments and with a certain...frivolity that's lacking with Kronos. Still I think KQ's disc is a very good one on its own terms.

Machaut, BTW, is also spotlighted on The Art of Courtly Love along with numerous of his less-famous contemporaries.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 10 February 2003 05:31 (10 years ago) Permalink

" "early music" refers to European composed music from before Monteverdi, i.e. the Renaissance and earlier. Is this a correct understanding? "

appears to be correct; at any rate most of the musicians who in my homeland practise what's oft referred to as 'early music' seem to prefer the term 'pre-Baroque' (though i gather they'd obviously like it much more if the reference were even more specific: late medieval, early polyphony, gregorian, etc - as may be the case ;-) )

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 11 February 2003 03:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

7 years pass...

David Munrow's Early Music Consort of London. (All of them from the 1970s.)

If I like this, what else would I like? In particular I like the plodding marches and dance songs. Please recommend early music to me.

― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 16:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Do you prefer a more stripped-down sound or something fuller and more choral? All-male or coed? A cappella or with instruments?

― skip, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

I like mostly instrumental -- choral is ok, but today I am looking for instrumental stuff. Stripped down is ok, but I like a loud band. My interest is inspired in large part by Munrow's EMC arrangements on Shirley/Dolly Collins' Anthems in Eden.

― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 17:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ah okay, I'm not all that versed in early/renaissance/whatever instrumental music. Cantica Symphonia has a solid and great-sounding instrumental section but their interpretations can be kind of patchy. Diabolus in Musica also uses a backing band on the La Doce Acordance song collection.

― skip, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 18:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

How weird you should mention Diabolus -- this morning I was looking for pictures of the crumhorn and I found their website.

― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 18:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

ps thank you for recommending some early music to me! i am going to look for these things now.

― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 18:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

No problem, enjoy.

― skip, Wednesday, 25 August 2010 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

look at this video! i esp like the crumhorn part and also when he's going nuts on the little trumpet thingie in the beginning.

― The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 August 2010 23:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

that is wonderful. actually just ordered myself 'art of courtly love' last week and it's just total fun and it shouldn't be surprising that on video munrow is just a total rocker

ordered the munrow after a conversation with a conversation with an early music professor who was raving about it when I brought up the machaut CD I've been unable to stop playing this last month:

http://www.amazon.com/Mirror-Narcissus-Secular-Guillaume-Machaut/dp/B000002ZGV

it's just crazy beautiful, but these are 100% choral arrangements -- no horns, drums, no stompers. but this is not your typical glacially reverbed choral production, they completely attack these songs, I knew I loved this album ten seconds into the first track. it's still kind of a plainchant drone in some ways, but the harmonies push at the edge of what you'd think was even possible

― Milton Parker, Friday, 27 August 2010 01:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

god! I was interrupted from typing by four phone calls as always but I should know by now to read it over before posting

― Milton Parker, Friday, 27 August 2010 01:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

first track of that gothic voices CD of machaut music

http://www.sendspace.com/file/zkhqpe

― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 01:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

haha i just looked for this thread to find that i asked the same question right after my birthday going on 2 years ago.

there's a difference though -- last time I was looking for instrumental music and this time I came here to ask for choral music. i'm listening to "music of the gothic era" and the singer's name is paul elliott.

what else sounds like this?! it's so beautiful and simple. little chimes or bells of some kind are the only instrument i can hear outside of the voices. "Gaude Maria Virgo" was the tune that made me look this up btw. I don't know much about choral music, so i have no idea if this is a common style or song or what.

This is not the same performance obvs but this is the same song in a different arrangement

― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Monday, 13 February 2012 15:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

bump
this is what i was listening to btw

― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Monday, 13 February 2012 20:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

Perotin is an obvious place to start. The Hilliard Ensemble's album "Perotin and the Ars Antiqua" is available on Spotify.

― skip, Monday, 13 February 2012 20:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thank you very much! Added to playlist.

― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Monday, 13 February 2012 20:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like Hilliard's recording of Perotin but it is very, very typically ECM glacial. If you don't have a good instant response to it, try out some other recordings as well. I like the Perotin / Leonin

Have you heard Brumel's Earthquake Mass?

original recording: http://www.amazon.com/Brumel-terrae-Sequentia-Huelgas-Ensemble/dp/B00006GO7C/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1329166072&sr=8-11
tallis scholars good too, higher register less reverb: http://www.amazon.com/Antoine-Brumel-Missa-terrae-Earthquake/dp/B000QZVBL6/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1329166027&sr=1-2

― Milton Parker, Monday, 13 February 2012 20:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

left a sentence unfinished in my unedited post

>I like the Perotin / Leonin

...disc on Naxos: http://www.amazon.com/Leonin-Perotin-Sacred-Notre-Dame-Cathedral/dp/B0009SQC8W/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1329166793&sr=1-1

― Milton Parker, Monday, 13 February 2012 21:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

god I love Amazon classical music reviews. seriously maniacial reviews on there to read while you're listening to the clips.

― Milton Parker, Monday, 13 February 2012 21:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

& one last borderline 15th century rec

http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=191672

― Milton Parker, Monday, 13 February 2012 21:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

So basically you want a blend of voices and instruments, right?

No one sounds like Munrow, unfortunately (except maybe Musica Reservata). But I would recommend you look for discs of ars nova and ars subtilior repertoire by the Ferrara Ensemble and Ensemble Mala Punica. Also Ensemble P.A.N.

― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

xpost Huelgas Ensemble's disc of Dufay Motets is also a great example of voices + instruments

― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

didn't know Huelgas did Dufay. thanks, just bought that -- the Huelgas Brumel is all-time for me.

― Milton Parker, Monday, 13 February 2012 21:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Another great Huelgas record in the voices + ensemble vein: Febus Avant!

― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

(the title actually includes the exclamation point...)

― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like it so far, but I need to listen a little more closely. The glacial pace is part of what I find appealing tbh.
Thanks for the recommendations -- I will report back once I've had a chance to hear a little more.

Febus Avant!

― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

I officially love Perotin. Disappointed about this though -- No one sounds like Munrow, unfortunately (except maybe Musica Reservata). I have a couple of the Musica Reservata medieval troubadour albums queued up but it's sad to think that there's such a limited amount of material like that out there to digest. He was not on this earth for long enough imo.

Speaking of, though, does anyone know if the soundtrack to The Devils is available anywhere? I haven't looked all that hard, but I have looked and am coming up empty.

― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Monday, 13 February 2012 23:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

As far as I know, no it isn't.

Know what else Munrow was involved with? The score to Zardoz! Also unfindable according to my efforts.

I should have said no one sounds QUITE like Munrow & company... I mean he was super influential on later EM bands but I feel like no one has that wildness plus unpredictability of how a given piece will be arranged. Scholarship comes first now.

BTW there's a track off the Dark Crystal score album which is very Munrow-y-- the folk dance for the Pod People. Shredding recorder solo.

― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 00:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

ooh is this it?!

it's awesome!!

― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 00:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah right?

― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 00:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think the soloist is the guy from Gryphon.

Most of Trevor Jones' film scores on 'ancient times' or fantasy subjects have a track or two like this.

― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 00:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's always a good time to watch this beauty again (although the pan flute (?) and harp are not my favorite part, and i could live without them)

― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 06:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thomas Binkley is another maniac - one that doesn't get quite as much attention as Munrow these days due to the fact that his group, Studio Der Fruhen Musik, doesn't have any insane live-action YouTubes.

This double album (Makoto Kawabata's favourite record of all time... take from that what you will) is a great intro to early music, and is IMHO a superior statement to any single title of Munrow's (much as I love his work):

http://www.amazon.com/Troubadours-Touveres-Minstreles-Binkley/dp/B00171TE8A

― wiki weimar germanyu (Call the Cops), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

well, then i must have it

lol @ insane live action --> munrow's playing is truly insane and maniacal!!

― Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 14:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

I wish I could get into the instrumental side of this stuff but I just can't.

― skip, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 15:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

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New favorite 14th century music CD: Ensemble P.A.N.'s Unseen Rain on New Albion.

Oh snap, the dangers of Spotify listening. Turns out this is new music composed by Robert Kyr for Ensemble P.A.N. in the style of the 14th century. Punk'd! What can I say, my ears were fooled and the results are totally amazing IMO.

― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Monday, 7 January 2013 20:53 (4 months ago) Permalink

I'm finally almost done listening to that Chansonniere set -- the 4th song on the 5th side has a line in which the melody is almost identical to a tiny part of the Romeo and Juliet theme from the 1968 movie, which I remember seeing in 9th grade English class and wondering what the song was. That was kind of weird. Not really worth mentioning, but there it is.

Also - assuming that my searching isn't faulty in some way -- there seems to be no mention of Jantina Noorman on ilx?! Is this possible?!

If so, JANTINA NOORMAN. Let's talk about her and her marvelous voice. Apparently Michael Morrow (from Musica Reservata) asked her to sing like the instruments and did she ever.

Here is a piece of folk journalism about her: http://www.folkworld.de/31/e/dutch.html (worth a read if you enjoy the idea of someone going on a pilgrimage to talk to a singer whose voice he (?) loved)
Here is a picture of her first album of Dutch folk songs (and her last, I think) for Folkways, which she recorded on a whim when her family moved to the USA (which I happened to have and didn't realize it was the same lady and then when I realized...magical moment)

This is a good example of what she sounded like when she sang like a crumhorn:

And that is pretty much all I can find about her. Is there more?

― bish borscht (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 15:52 (4 months ago) Permalink

+1 Noorman fan club

― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:05 (4 months ago) Permalink

She also sings several tracks on the Jaye Consort's A Bawdy Elizabethan Evening album-- of which the track 'Carters, Now Cast Down Your Whips' is esp amazing.

― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:07 (4 months ago) Permalink

^this is on spotify

― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:07 (4 months ago) Permalink

I have been wondering if Dagmar Krause was aware of Noorman's singing. There's a strong resemblance there to my ear.

― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:08 (4 months ago) Permalink

You should make an all-Jantina playlist on spotify and then the pep club (me) can force everyone to listen to it.

― bish borscht (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 16:18 (4 months ago) Permalink

Chantilly Codex -- A medieval music thread

Ah, ^ my Chantilly thread, didn't realise there was discussion here.

Familiar w/Ensemble P.A.N.

Ita madrigals is gd too

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 17:09 (4 months ago) Permalink

Can you anyone tell me of any good recordings for early Russian music plz? The bits I've heard always strike me as different in tone to other types of choral music maybe?

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 17:19 (4 months ago) Permalink

the father of a friend of mine runs this label (and apparently still does really well out of it !!) :

http://www.saydisc.com/

some mad stuff from way way back ..

no idea if any of this is of interest ..

― mark e, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 17:20 (4 months ago) Permalink

What an interestingly diverse label! Color me intrigued by:

http://www.wyastone.co.uk/forest-talk-an-evening-of-songs-poetry-and-humour-from-the-forest-of-dean.html

― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 17:32 (4 months ago) Permalink

As per request, I give you 27 Spotify minutes of JANTINA NOORMAN:

http://open.spotify.com/user/1213493496/playlist/6Jsm5qS1iUx0alKiOxviPL

― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:15 (4 months ago) Permalink

Only 20 more years until DeRayMi can retire!

― Z S, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:21 (4 months ago) Permalink

Oooh I'll take this one! http://www.wyastone.co.uk/gloucestershire-wildlife-tapestry-a-web-of-day-night-sounds.html

And three cheers for 27 minutes of Jantina and her rustic holler!!!

― bish borscht (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:22 (4 months ago) Permalink

^ wildlife tapestry is on Spotify, to my amazement!

Wld make good double header with Sublime Frequencies Night Sounds of Bali

― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:31 (4 months ago) Permalink

And also Sonic Seasonings!

― bish borscht (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:33 (4 months ago) Permalink

Another Early music group that cam onto my radar is Sequentia. Note they've just completed the rec of Hildegard von Bingen oeuvre, begun 30 years ago! Heard of them in this article by Kevin Volans. Its Interesting that they started around the time the Early Music Revival was in full swing. Punk wasn't the only thing happening in the late 70s!

The wiki for Early Music indicates this includes Baroque as well but we're all stopping around the Renaissance, or even earlier, so Musica Antiqua Köln have been excluded. I guess we think of Bach as its own thing, but it would be good to get any views on this.

This all touches on another area -- one I've not been able to pursue -- of Historicall informed Performance xps

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:45 (4 months ago) Permalink

I have always wanted to hear Sequentia's speculative renditions of ancient Norse music.

By the way, this early music FAQ, run by a dude named Todd McComb, is the fucking BOMB:

http://www.medieval.org/emfaq/site.html

― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 18:59 (4 months ago) Permalink

Wow Gloucestershire Woodlands are really bustling even in winter!

I'm really loving the character who enters at about 2:45 into 'Night: Spring'--

http://open.spotify.com/track/4HKMxNBFtsRNIUdK4sVzl8

― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 20:55 (4 months ago) Permalink

i should probably take it to some nature sounds thread but omg i love this
i guess nature sounds are the real early music?!

― bish borscht (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 21:13 (4 months ago) Permalink

Not on spotify ah well..

Thanks for the FAQ, will have a look.

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 January 2013 21:54 (4 months ago) Permalink

the earliest music

xpost

― ~farben~ (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 January 2013 22:12 (4 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I love this, but has anyone got any purely instrumental recommendations? Thanks lots.

― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 24 January 2013 21:08 (3 months ago) Permalink

what do you like so far?

― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Thursday, 24 January 2013 21:08 (3 months ago) Permalink

I'm listening to English Country Dances by The Broadside Band at this very moment. I enjoy stuff like that. Listened to lots of lute music earlier...specifically Early Venetian Lute Music.

http://www.amazon.com/Early-Venetian-Music-Ambrosio-Dalza/dp/B00004GLLX

― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 24 January 2013 21:42 (3 months ago) Permalink

Here are two CDs for cheap of stompin' squawkin' renaissance dances by Munrow and company:

http://www.amazon.com/Renaissance-Dances-Tylman-Susato/dp/B000CEBOQ8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1359065968&sr=8-5&keywords=david+munrow

Here's an interesting CD of Ars Subtilior vocal music performed instrumentally by germany's spirited Ensemble Unicorn:

http://www.amazon.com/Codex-Faenza-Instrumental-Music-Century/dp/B000009OM1/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1359066109&sr=1-1&keywords=codex+faenza

― here is no telephone (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 24 January 2013 22:23 (3 months ago) Permalink

People don't talk about this enough in cool music circles, but Jordi Savall just might be the most reliable name in early music. Hesperion XXI can even bring dusty old 18C French overtures to life.

Plus this one is a mystical EM ur-recording: http://www.amazon.com/El-Cant-Montserrat-Figueras/dp/B004DY5B1M/

Current 93 used to play it before going on stage - talk about fostering expectations!

― OG requiem head (Call the Cops), Friday, 25 January 2013 10:38 (3 months ago) Permalink

That Codex Faenza looks like another top Naxos goody!

― xyzzzz__, Friday, 25 January 2013 11:35 (3 months ago) Permalink

Thanks for the recommendations!

― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 25 January 2013 15:24 (3 months ago) Permalink

I've learned so far that I can't go wrong with anything called estampie, saltarello, or anything that's labeled as "dance music". This is my kind of dance music, apparently? One of them, at least.

― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Friday, 25 January 2013 15:30 (3 months ago) Permalink

Love those lutes...

― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 25 January 2013 15:36 (3 months ago) Permalink

hahaha i was just thinking yesterday while listening to something "LL should add estampie and istampitta to her list of 'always win' EM genres."

Does estampie actually mean 'stamping dance' or somesuch?

I have been super remiss in paying attention to Savall/Figueras. I only have Savall's Brandenburg Cto set (which is awesome).

― here is no telephone (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:16 (3 months ago) Permalink

OH yeah the stompy/plodding/swirly drummy songs are totally the ones I love the most. For a while I listened to La Quinte Estampie Royal almost every day! So much that I can spell it from memory and actually remember the name of it -- that's a sign that a song has truly made it! Ideal song has persistent drumming (speed may vary), something droning, and another element dancing around on top of those two things.

Two Renaissance Dance Bands is the one I'd recommend, I think, but I can't remember offhand if there is singing in there or not. Either way, I'm sure you will enjoy some singing here and there.

― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:31 (3 months ago) Permalink

I think Two Renaissance Dance Bands might be indcluded on that budget 2cd i linked... but I'm not positive.

― here is no telephone (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:34 (3 months ago) Permalink

That lute disc is really doing it for me right now.

― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 25 January 2013 16:45 (3 months ago) Permalink

Have you tried out some John Dowland? He's kind of thee lute dude.

― here is no telephone (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 January 2013 16:58 (3 months ago) Permalink

Ooh, those renaissance dances are nice.

Came across this one the other day. Listened a few times already. Spectacular for the the lute heads: http://www.amazon.com/Lute-Music-Witches-Alchemists-Kirchhof/dp/B00004S38O/ref=pd_sim_m_2

― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 28 January 2013 16:05 (3 months ago) Permalink

tell me you were searching for witches and/or alchemy when that popped up ;)

― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Monday, 28 January 2013 17:26 (3 months ago) Permalink

Wow that is one peculiar release. How can I not check that out.

“ That is truly within the realm of Herr/Herra Parent to educate the child that there is quite a universe of music that is out there. ”

T. Smith | 2 reviewers made a similar statement

― John Bradshaw-Leather (Jon Lewis), Monday, 28 January 2013 17:43 (3 months ago) Permalink

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Monday, 28 January 2013 17:50 (3 months ago) Permalink

Herra Parent say hi to me

― John Bradshaw-Leather (Jon Lewis), Monday, 28 January 2013 17:59 (3 months ago) Permalink

The reason I call this 'My Precious', is that I had lost a lot in Hurricane Katrina, including my music library, which i am still slowly rebuilding, thank the Goddess!!

I owned this CD when it became released, and found it to be a collection of music that is most suited for comtemplative study, note-taking, journalling, writing memoirs with tea/coffee/mead/or aperitif. For me, it is also good music to use when busy scripting in my book-of-shadows, or rhyming wordings to be used later for some good works, by tensor light if not by candle.

As one who has self-taught guitar and medieval instruments, i appreciate the talent behind, and the hard work to play this collection.

I will place this among my 'workings' collection, once i receive it ... although not quick enough!

― John Bradshaw-Leather (Jon Lewis), Monday, 28 January 2013 18:00 (3 months ago) Permalink

oops i meant to italic the first para as well

― John Bradshaw-Leather (Jon Lewis), Monday, 28 January 2013 18:01 (3 months ago) Permalink

oooooooooohhhhhhhhh god MY PRECIOUS

― this customer is a jerk (La Lechera), Monday, 28 January 2013 18:02 (3 months ago) Permalink

That mead is a must.

― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 28 January 2013 18:03 (3 months ago) Permalink

brb, scripting in my book-of-shadows

― John Bradshaw-Leather (Jon Lewis), Monday, 28 January 2013 18:04 (3 months ago) Permalink

skine-of-mole

― John Bradshaw-Leather (Jon Lewis), Monday, 28 January 2013 18:04 (3 months ago) Permalink

Lute music for witches aka MY PRECIOUS is on Spotify, FYI.

― Be Glad for the Snorg Has No End (Jon Lewis), Monday, 28 January 2013 22:27 (3 months ago) Permalink

This is rly good and well sequenced so far.

― Be Glad for the Snorg Has No End (Jon Lewis), Monday, 28 January 2013 23:23 (3 months ago) Permalink

I have always wanted to hear Sequentia's speculative renditions of ancient Norse music.

This should be in the Inspector Norse thread.

― xyzzzz__, Friday, 1 February 2013 21:22 (3 months ago) Permalink

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