Anyone here think Klaatu is a great band?

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We all know the story by now, but does anyone here think that Klaatu is truly a great band? I've only heard Magentalane and I thought it was so-so. But I've heard that Hope and Sir Army Suit are fantastic. Anyone agree with that?

― Manny Parsons, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Well, considering Klaatu were actually the Beatles in disguise, yes they were a great band.

― fodder-wing, Tuesday, 9 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

they were NOT the Beatles, are you serious? they were maybe about as good as ELO, at their best....not that i've heard em that much. The Carpenters' version of "Calling Occupants" was better than the orig. wasn't it?

― unknown or illegal eagle, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

But not a patch on the Langley Schools Music Project version!

― -, Wednesday, 10 July 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Does Klaatu really sound that much like the Beatles? Do they do the harmonies or is it an attempt at "I Am the Walrus" pop prog?

Knowing the story I have always been curious about what their records sounded like, but never come across one in a dollar bin.

― earlnash, Tuesday, 13 April 2004 00:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, some day I'm going to have to take the dollar bin plunge on one of those, too.

― Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 13 April 2004 01:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

The rumor that Klaatu were The Beatles had to be a marketing ploy. I have bought a few Klaatu records in my time, and I do not think they sound like the '70s version of The Beatles. Badfinger sounds way more like The Beatles in disguise. But, I bet that rumor sold a few thousand records for them.

― Justin Farrar (Justin Farrar), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 01:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

Beradda and Nikto are better bands.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 01:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

ringo made the cover.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 07:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

The rumor that Klaatu were The Beatles had to be a marketing ploy.

See:

http://www.klaatu.org/klaatu1.html

They do sound like The Beatles on certain tracks (John Woloschuk, the main writer of the band, can do a good John Lennon impersonation) most notably "Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft", though mostly it's the 'I Am the Walrus' pop-prog vibe.

I guess you'd have to imagine that "Anus of Uranus" was the Ringo track. :)

― Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

Paul is dead.

― uh (eetface), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 21:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Someone made fun of the idea the other day that at some point in time a Beatles fan or whatever starts thinking, "Maybe I should check out a Klaatu record."

But hey, should I ... uh ... check out a Klaatu record? I feel like listening to "Calling Occupants" right now.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 9 September 2005 16:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 9 September 2005 17:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

Sir Army Suit are fantastic

Overstated a bit. It's a pleasant pop rock record.

― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 9 September 2005 17:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 10 September 2005 22:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

I love their records! Definitely check them out, Tim.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 10 September 2005 23:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

My favorite is the one with the sun on the cover. whatever that one is called.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 10 September 2005 23:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

NO, wait, I take it back! Hope is my favorite. I LOVE Hope!

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 10 September 2005 23:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

the first one with calling occupants has the sun on the cover. that one is really good too. i think there is a cd with that album and hope on it. a twofer if you will.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 10 September 2005 23:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

I just got the first album today. I'd forgotten "Sub Rosa Subway" - a lost classic.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 10 September 2005 23:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

omg this album rules so hard. wtf???

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 11 September 2005 00:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 04:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

Klaatu are great and please forget the Beatles references. You'd have to be a total spazz to confuse the two. They aren't very prog either. I've got 3:47EST (their first album - with the sun on the cover) and Hope which are awesome. I've got Endangered Species too but I can never find it which is fine because it isn't as good.

They are still playing!!

― everything, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 16:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

Seriously, the first album is stunning.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 16:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

Honestly folks, it's great.

― everything, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 16:27 (7 years ago) Permalink

Klaatu randomness:

http://kempa.com/blog/archives/000696.html

― jb, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 16:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

I have the first three albums now and must say that ...

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 15 September 2005 03:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

Tim, did you edit the Don Letts punk rock doc I just finished watching on IFC?

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 15 September 2005 03:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

And yes, the first Klaatu album with the sunny cover is good. sorry for the drunken non-sequitur.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 15 September 2005 04:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

"3:47 EST" is my favourite Klaatu LP. I picked this up 3-4 years ago for a buck and found it to be excellent.

― chad (chad), Thursday, 15 September 2005 05:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

Hey Tim, isn't Hope great? It's a glorious creation.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 15 September 2005 09:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

"Sir Army Suit are fantastic"

Overstated a bit. It's a pleasant pop rock record.

-- George the Animal Steele (george_the_animal_steele...), September 9th, 2005.

Jeez, George, you do make it sound like a bit of a trifle! It's really a damn intense and impeccable pop record! Their songwriting skills were just at a super high level. And just the genius of these guys - it's like they were playing their own genre of music entirely.

I'm a little puzzled, frankly, by the whole deal with these guys! Why isn't Sir Army Suit considered something along the lines of being to the seventies what Odessey and Oracle is to the sixties? You'd think a major label album like this would have been more widely discovered by now!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 17 September 2005 05:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

I don't know, but whenever I read something about Klaatu on a website, the fake Beatles story, at this point, instead of helping them just aggravated people. Plus, the band never established its own members identities. I can't even name one member of Klaatu and I had their records.

I guess it must have seemed a good idea at the time when some dimbulb US reviewer started the rumor and the record company let it stand because it was inspiring sales.

― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 17 September 2005 17:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

I've been reading the interviews on the official Klaatu site, including a long one with John Woloschuk from '97. Supposedly, their fourth album is not so good. Capitol made them record it in L.A. w/ Chris Bond producing (he'd done Hall and Oates and I don't know what else). Woloschuk says something to the effect that Capitol wanted a more "American sounding" album. I wonder if they thought that Sir Army Suit, amazing as it is, failed because it was too British sounding.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

Or at least too many connotations of a retro British sound (though it was a very modern record).

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 17 September 2005 18:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

See ILMers diss Klaatu here! Except for Scott Seward and Geir and a couple others, that is. Geir does curse in one of these posts, actually!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 17 September 2005 21:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

I think it's more like Klaatu ran out of steam because the record label drooped in interest on them, not because they sounded "too
British." No longer hip enough for the lable promotional team.

― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 17 September 2005 22:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

Probably. But there was some rationale for making them work with Bond, too.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 17 September 2005 22:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

The Chris Bond interview on the Klaatu site is really interesting!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 17 September 2005 23:34 (7 years ago) Permalink

me & geir, bonded by Klaatu. It's a beautiful thing.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 September 2005 23:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

Klaatu look like guys that didn't pass the audition for The Magic Band. They are definitely rockin the fedora and bald white guy with crazy fro look.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 18 September 2005 04:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

Can people please stop pretending they like shit just to look cool and different.

― do feed the troll, Sunday, 18 September 2005 05:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

You dumb or something?

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 18 September 2005 05:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

after hearing Tim talk about these guys to no end, i finally picked up 3:47EST (their first album - with the sun on the cover), and, yes, it's fantastic. very ELOish. kinda wish i never heard the Muppets track (Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III), but the last 8 minute track (Little Neutrino) is A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!

― jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 9 December 2005 22:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

On ILX there is a thread about "yes boss" as a catchphrase - which I thought sounded like Tattoo from Fantasy Island. And I had just heard Tattoo, by the Who. And then I turned on the TV and a rerun of Mad TV is on and Tatu is performing. So I looked for a thread on ILX to post this and here's this Klaatu thing. Fuckin weird!

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Friday, 9 December 2005 23:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

I love love love Little Neutrino. Was one of my favorite songs when I was a kid (yeah, my dad was a music nerd).

― baked beans (Royal Bed Bouncer), Friday, 9 December 2005 23:47 (7 years ago) Permalink

The first two albums were great (and not very Beatles-sounding other than their debut single). "Sir Army Suit" was OK. From "Magentalane" onwards it was all MOR though.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 10 December 2005 01:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Tim, if you don't have it already, I suggest you find Klaatu's "Sun Set" 2 CD box set. It's consistantly good to excellent. The original 7" single versions of the first four songs on the debut (which means "Hanus of Uranus" instead of "Anus," for one), the original version of "Hope" in its entirety, which was much more 83-piece orchestrated without synth interludes when the record company dawdled on release giving the band time to diddle. It sounds very good.

Quite a bit of other material included, nothing duff. I was surprised at the consistancy of it. Even someone unfamiliar with Klaatu originals would find a great deal to enjoy in its mix of classic FM pop tunes, Politzania-craziness and on and off British combo sound.

― George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 27 December 2005 17:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

Thanks, George. I'd like to hear it. They were indeed very consistent. Even their supposedly bad album - Endangered Species, which they had to record w/ an outside producer - is a decent late seventies pop album (though no real moments of brilliance like on the other four).

Geir's comment makes no sense, by the way. Magentalane was their last album, recorded only for Canadian Capitol after they got dropped in the U.S. Not sure why someone who likes Sir Army Suit wouldn't be into Magentalane.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 22:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

Geir, you know, listening again, I'll grant you that side one of Magentalane is more MOR than Sir Army Suit. Side two seems like more of the classic Klaatu aesthetic, though, and I think in general that Sir Army Suit fans should find quite a bit to like about the album as a whole.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 04:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

Best song on Endangered Species is "Knee Deep in Love."

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 04:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

Oh and you underrate Sir Army Suit by saying it was merely OK! Listen again: "A Routine Day," "Everybody Took a Holiday," "Dear Christine," "Tokeymor Field," "Perpetual Motion Machine," ""Cherie," etc.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 04:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

The version of "Dear Christine" on SunSet is pretty ace. "Cherie" shows up as a single mix from '72 or '73 and it is also quite good. "Tokeymore Field" I'm not so hot on but "A Routine Day" is fine.

― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 28 December 2005 08:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

George - just so you know I wasn't harping on you - I was actually responding to Geir there re his comments on Sir Army Suit.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 12:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

There are also a number of interesting things on the SunSet thing: a tape of the session in which Bond called Rupert Perry of Capitol on the phone and recorded him saying "peddle yourself" in time to "Sell Out, Sell Out." In retrospect, it's kind of mean but funny in the context of Endangered Species, an album that Perry and the label almost instantly deleted.

Also, one live cut, to show they occasionally did do a show or two, I guess. It's mediocre at best. Shows they had a reason not to play live. And a couple of "singles" that were either never released in the US or kept off albums for various reasons. I can't recall the titles offhand, but both are good. And I very much enjoy the complete orchestral mix sans synthesizers of Hope.

For the professors in the fan demographic, the original mix of "Rugglesby" with normal voice vocals. They were thought inadequate, so the tape was played sped up, the vocal line sung again for a different track, and then the song remixed at normal speed to give the version on EST.

― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 28 December 2005 17:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

I think they only did one tour of Canada near the end of their career opening for Prism!

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 17:53 (7 years ago) Permalink

"Dear Christine" is probably the only track by them I like in a fully non-ironic way. Well, okay, maybe "December Dream" too...

― Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 18:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

That's right. How do I know? They put the tour itinerary in SunSet's booklet. They also did a one-off with Martha & the Muffins. Seemed to be about a dozen gigs, total. Photos from live date included show them to be unfortunate looking, still rockin' the bald dude with crazy semi-afro and slim guy in polyester and fedora look. They really were a self-defeating bunch. Refusing to have pics taken and do interviews until failure was upon them. Half a million at least in sales for the first album, and then astonishing declines in numbers when everyone who held sway in media and press decided
they were permanently pissed off about the Beatles hoax.

Shame, really, because the records were good ones. In fairness, the box does a nice job of documenting it, warts and all. The press instantly vanishes after EST and the examples included all have the same inane Beatles references and article titles like "Klaatu Lets it Be" or things worked off Beatle refs. I barely hear any Beatle things. Actually, infrequently, I do hear them a little like Supertramp. Then again, they were all over the place in pop styles.

― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 28 December 2005 18:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

My old boss saw them live in Vancouver around 1980. She had owned a variety of Klatuu records which she "used to" like. Tragically, in the mid-80's she became a Jehovah's Witness and gave them all away.

― everything, Wednesday, 28 December 2005 19:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

"but the last 8 minute track (Little Neutrino) is A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!"

so OTM!

― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Thursday, 29 December 2005 17:40 (7 years ago) Permalink

Does anyone know if they have put the Klaatu albums in cd form?

― Jeffrey Adams, Sunday, 8 January 2006 03:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

yes.

― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 8 January 2006 04:00 (7 years ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

In the '79 Rolling Stone Record Guide, Dave Marsh gives each of the first three albums one star and says:

"Named for a robot in a science fiction movie, Klaatu's only claim to fame came through rumor; its self-titled first LP was reported to be the re-formed Beatles, a 1976 scam perpetuated by the group members' refusal to identify themselves. When word leaked out that it was only a batch of anonymous Canadian session players, reality asserted itself: mediocrity runs rampant through each of these discs, even the attempt to make Sir Army Suit a Northland Sgt. Pepper. Good for a laugh - barely."

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 13 May 2006 22:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

When my first marriage failed, in 1978, I suffered from reactive depression, and became suicidal. At about the same time, I heard "Loneliest of Creatures" being played on a local radio station in Suffolk. I liked it immediately, and went out to buy the single, which was the B side of "Calling Occupants . . ".
After hearing that, I went out and bought "Klaatu" and "Hope". "Little Neutrino", on Klaatu, was the musical representation of what was happening in my mind, especially the crescendos, and "Hope" described how I fely about myself. The fact that the philosophy in "Hope" ended above the line of despair gave me the impetus to remove myself from the "valley of the shadow of death", and recover from depression. I have since remarried, and I have a wonderful new family, and, whenever I feel down, I listen to those two wonderful albums, and I don't need medication!
Yes, I believe that Klaatu are one of the best bands that ever existed. After all, they could well have saved my life.

― Richard Daish (Richard1506), Thursday, 17 August 2006 09:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2-blWgVk-A

i don't think i've ever heard the carpenter's version of "Calling Occupants Of Interplanetary Craft", but it's pretty grand. the ring modulator over her voice and the fuzzy guitar at the end.

― jaxon, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 05:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

They were a great band, but I don't see the point in all this discussion about their last three albums, as the first two were the real deal. Particularly "Hope", which is the closest they ever got to prog.

― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 08:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

I can't believe you'd say that about Sir Army Suit. Last album, Magentalane, would seemingly have a lot of stuff I'd imagine you would like as well.

― Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

Well, it is melodic and all that, but I find those three last albums are so.... ordinary. In a way, they might as well have been recorded by Barry Manilow. The first two are the ones with all the Beatles and ELO references. Which makes them great.

― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 09:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

might as well have been recorded by Barry Manilow

Vaguely, at times, Geir. But that's a pretty big generalization, no? "Everybody Took a Holiday" is absolute twee English psych - your favorite genre!

Anyway, even if it's vaguely Barry Manilow at times, the songcraft is key.

― Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

"Everybody Took a Holiday" is absolute twee English psych - your favorite genre!

Yes, there are moments, but the twee moments on those last three albums are closer to Association than The Beatles. And there are none of those proggy moments that made the "Hope" album so great.

― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

There are lots of moments!

"Cherie," to cite another example, is as significantly Beatle-esque as "Calling Occupants," even if it doesn't have the super-obvious soundalike parts.

― Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

To me, "Calling Occupants" doesn't sound like The Beatles at all. Nothing by Klaatu does, apart from "Sub Rosa Subway", does IMO. But that song, and most of the two first albums, sounds a lot like ELO. Unlike the more straightahead MOR stuff on those last three.

― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 19 April 2007 00:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

It may not sound like a Beatles record, but it has a "Strawberry Fields"-like mellotron intro, a synth part that sounds like Beatle horns at one point and the synth on Abbey Road at another, total McCartney piano chords in the bridge, and then the "I Am the Walrus" electric piano at the end.

― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 19 April 2007 00:28 (6 years ago) Permalink

If there is one thing that doesn't sound Beatlesque to me, then a synth is it. Makes it sound a lot like ELO though. :)

― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 19 April 2007 07:47 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

I found this for $0.50 and didn't buy it. Did I make a mistake?

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 31 August 2008 01:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yes.

― our work is never over, Sunday, 31 August 2008 02:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Shit.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 31 August 2008 02:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

We all make mistakes.

― our work is never over, Sunday, 31 August 2008 02:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

WOah that was fast.

― our work is never over, Sunday, 31 August 2008 02:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

I bought that record for like 5 bucks!
I'm the one who made the mistake..

But seriously, this is an okay album in comparison to "Hope".
Best space-themed pop rock band to come out of Canada in the late 70's, which contained three memebers...

― our work is never over, Sunday, 31 August 2008 02:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=c1FSg5gcviU

― our work is never over, Sunday, 31 August 2008 02:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

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― our work is never over, Sunday, 31 August 2008 02:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

4 years pass...

I totally defend the first record, there is definitely something really hokey about it but some great songs, especially "Sub Rosa Subway" and "Interplanetary Craft." Don't know calling something "Anus of Uranus" ever seemed like a good idea, actually in general when they try to bring the "ROCK" element (that song, also "True Life Hero") they fall really flat. But I dig em in psychedelic mode, and of course their Muppet number "Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby" is a charmer. Was that supposed to be the Ringo track?

― Doctor Casino, Monday, 24 September 2012 23:40 (8 months ago) Permalink

It's Woloschuck singing with his voice slowed down.

― timellison, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 00:04 (7 months ago) Permalink

"True Life Hero" is classic '70s hard pop-rock in my book.

― timellison, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 00:14 (7 months ago) Permalink

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