BBC Krautrock documentary

This has the potential to be quite interesting. Broadcast 23 October.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00nf10k

Fantastisch!

Iggy is German? ;-)

Osterberg!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcmusic/2009/10/my_krautrock_adventures_on_the.html

^ makes it sound promising

Yes, good choice of interviewees

Holger is a hilarious interviewee usually.

Just dreading the inevitable talking heads though...

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was a bit shocked by iggy's still at first glance...

would love to see this but without a digital tv subscription there is no way that i'll be able to over here (NL). ah well, here's hoping there's an enthousiastic blogger somewhere who's willing to record & upload...

I have a Cassette magazine from back whenever, SFX, with a Holger feature from around the time of "On they way to the peak of normal", it's very entertaining...

He can overdo the "I'm right wacky, me" bit though

^^^ But when he is it's so understated and charming that you don't really notice. Using a power drill like that on a whatever that fruit was is definately not advised though...

Eh? That's Iggy not Holger.

@willem join uknova.com and you can torrent it within a day of the broadcast. or there is the option to bypass the bbc iplayer (which is supposedly for UK residents only).

thanks. i've always shied away from torrents but maybe this is a good time to remedy that. bypassing iplayer (which is indeed uk only) probably involves fidgeting with ip adresses or something that is way over my head :)

there's a simpler URL...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/krautrock

intersting

I'm really looking forward to it.

but its a shame there is not a "krautrock at the BBC" programme afterwards.

I found that much better than the Synth britannia documentary.

Yes, that would have been great, I still haven't seen all of that Can "Old Grey Whistle Test" appearance they keep showing you bits of

... plus Can on Top of the Pops!

^^^ best user name

Bono better not turn up as a talking head

"Last updated two days ago"? shame on you ilm

lot wordier than the synth doc but again what they only showed tiny clips of suggests a wealth of stuff in the bbc achives that i'd really like to see released - Tangerine Dream At Coventry Cathedral for instance. and all that footage of Kraftwerk dad-dancing in a tv studio and them sat on a train. what's all that from?

> Just dreading the inevitable talking heads though...

it was ok, i thought, everybody they spoke (apart from iggy) was involved in some way. damo suzuki didn't say much. bloke from faust complained about english food. harmonia bloke seemed bitter about eno.

IIRC the train footage is from the Trans Europe Express video.

can't watch on BBC iplayer, will have to look for torrent

bloke from faust complained about english food.

Mint sauce on meat???

The Baader-Meinhoff gang were sexy fuckers.

3 years ago the german channel WDR showed 12(!) hours of footage of german bands from 1967-2005 under the name Krautrock Nacht, including early footage from Can, Organisation, Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, Popol Vuh etc etc. the bbc really should have bought up some of this footage to show instead of that kraftwerk concert. guh.

Wasn't there quite a bit of Krautrock footage on The Beat Club?

mooney was shafted.

what's michael rother been taking? he's 58 and he looks younger than me!

can't watch on BBC iplayer, will have to look for torrent

I already told you upthread where you can torrent it.

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join uknova.com and you can torrent it within a day of the broadcast

they are not accepting new members jagoff

it's also on thebox.bz

they are not accepting new members jagoff

You can't join instantly, no, but they will send you an invite by e-mail in a few days if you sign up. Patience!

(IMHO it's not really worth it that much, wasn't a horrible doc but it's not exactly in-depth, either.)

damo: "actually i don't have so much memories because as that time i was quite... stoned"

iggy pop describing klaus dinger's drum playing lol

His description was accurate though!

(xpost) Peron from Faust: "maybe we smoked too much..."

I enjoyed it despite feeling that maybe Julian Cope might have been a better narrator, although he would have wanted to shoot and edit the whole thing, So maybe not.

I feel that it spent too much time on Bowie, but didnt really mention Krautrock creating both Ambient music as we know it and how Kraftwerk influenced modern techno. Both overused stories yes, but they had a place in a documentary about early German electronic music.

Thank God there were no talking heads telling us that "Krautrock has always been a major influence in our music" from the Horrors & Kasabian.

The BBC is not allowed to broadcast lies.

I didn't see any Bowie mentioned at all (but have only got 3/4 way through so far)...

I did note Mooney got skipped, but then an American guy being the first focus of the band (he named them too) would go against what the doc was about (the regen of German rock music by their own efforts).. They skipped The Monks as well, presumably for similar reasons.

Super-duper Neu! from 1974:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPuBCfvMrBA

Bowie was mentioned, so was Eno. There seemed to be a bummed out feeling when the Krautrockers talked about not being involved in the recording of Heroes.

Again, dislike the way that Bowie was used to almost validate Krautrock.

Interesting notion that Germans needed to get away from Anglo-UK notions of rock when you could position some of them in the acid rock/prog vein, but with a more thought-out approach to electronics; the idea that these musicians wanted to escape from Germany wasn't completely unpacked, either - Kraftwerk and Neu! did use the movement and notion of the Autobahn in their music.

The UK musicians had no problems in borrowing form the blues, nor did Japanese musicians working at the time.

All that aside there were so many groups to get through in a small chunk of time that there was no space for UK bands to say how 'influenced' they were. Totally accidental, but it worked out well.

> a wealth of stuff in the bbc achives that i'd really like to see released - Tangerine Dream At Coventry Cathedral for instance

turns out there's a dvd of this widely available (ie amazon). however it's a bit of a mongrel - appears to be video footage of the Cov Cathedral gig set to audio from Ricochet (and not synced too well by all accounts. and with shots repeated).

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tangerine-Dream-Live-Conventry-Cathedral/dp/B000MXOYZW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1258108110&sr=8-1

however, based on the lengths of the recordings, this is how it was originally broadcast on bbc2 in '76.

http://ftvdb.bfi.org.uk/sift/title/366098?view=transmission