The Original Black Sabbath:1970 -1978 POLL

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Was thinking about doing a series of polls about Black Sabbath but then I remembered about this compilation which pretty much includes the best songs in their career and so I decided to poll this instead.

The comp conspicuously misses some of the best Sabbath songs from this era (Planet Caravan, Hand of Doom, When the Levee Breaks, among several others) but all in all it's one of the best Black Sabbath compilations I've found and the one I'd give to friends if I wanted them to dig Sabbath. Vote away.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Children of the Grave 7
Black Sabbath 3
Supernaut 3
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath 3
Symptom of the Universe 3
Hole in the Sky 3
Changes 2
Paranoid 2
Into the Void 2
Laguna Sunrise 1
Never Say Die 1
Am I Going Insane? 1
Tomorrow's Dream 1
Snowblind 1
Lord of This World 1
Sweet Leaf 1
Fairies Wear Boots 1
War Pigs 1
N.I.B. 1
The Wizard 1
After Forever 0
Dirty Women 0
Rock 'n' Roll Doctor 0
Warning 0
Evil Woman 0
Sabbra Cadabra 0
Fluff 0
Iron Man 0
A Hard Road 0


Moka, Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

I fucked up on the other poll. Will hopefully be deleted by a mod soon. Please vote here.

Moka, Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

"Changes". And nothing but "Changes".

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

Supernaut, and will always be Supernaut.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

When the Levee Breaks

???

Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

When the Levee Breaks

???

― Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Thursday, October 8, 2009 9:59 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

This sent me on a wild google chase.

weatheringdaleson, Thursday, 8 October 2009 22:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

lol never noticed that

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 October 2009 22:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

difficult. verrrrry difficult. so many amazing bits of music here.

might have to go with 'into the void' - one of the few sabbath tunes to surpasses the sheer density of 'black sabbath', but with a sublime, coiling long-form riff to boot.

m the g, Thursday, 8 October 2009 22:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

did you post on the Mod Req forum to get the other one locked

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 8 October 2009 22:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

It's "Into the Void" vs. "Snowblind" for me.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Thursday, 8 October 2009 22:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

gut sez "sweet leaf". will have to ponder this on the tree of woe.

( - _ - ); (Alan N), Thursday, 8 October 2009 22:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

Symptom of the Universe for me but could have gone for almost any other of their songs. Most of my favorite riffs in rock music were crafted by Iommi's hands.

Moka, Friday, 9 October 2009 02:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

Voting "Hole In The Sky." (At least today that's what I'm voting for.)

xhuxk, Friday, 9 October 2009 03:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

No "Blow on a Jug"?

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 9 October 2009 03:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

Damn, no "Wheels of Confusion" either. I guess it's "Supernaut"

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 9 October 2009 03:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

This poll has "Changes" but not "National Acrobat"? Hmm.

I just have to go with the gut and say "Black Sabbath" ftw.

Nate Carson, Friday, 9 October 2009 04:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

"Changes". And nothing but "Changes".

― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro)

Nice choice Geir. Frankly surprised there's at least one Sabbath song you stand up for. Thought you hated metal.

Moka, Friday, 9 October 2009 04:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

well, "changes" is hardly metal...

( - _ - ); (Alan N), Friday, 9 October 2009 04:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

btw, no "fx," no credibility.

( - _ - ); (Alan N), Friday, 9 October 2009 04:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

Well, by metal I meant hard rock... I think.

Moka, Friday, 9 October 2009 04:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yes I was corrected the other day when talking to a restaurant manager about my Dj repertoire. I told him that I spin metal, and he recoiled in horror. Then I mentioned Sabbath and he relaxed and said "oh, that's Classic Rock."

Nate Carson, Friday, 9 October 2009 04:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

Of course there's a bunch of material missing, but I think they had to even it up to try and highlight some material from their last albums with Ozzy, even when few Sabbath fans care about 'never say die' and 'technical ecstasy'.

Moka, Friday, 9 October 2009 04:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

I care.

Nate Carson, Friday, 9 October 2009 04:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

I never did express that noone cared.

Moka, Friday, 9 October 2009 04:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

Wheels of Confusion is about my favorite too. That one is an epic. I went with Sabbath Bloody Sabbath as I have been obsessed with that opening riff since I was 14.

earlnash, Friday, 9 October 2009 05:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

JOHNNY BLADE

WHERE THE F IS JOHNNY BLADE

LIVIN' IN A JAM SPREAD (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 9 October 2009 07:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

anyway, symptom of the universe.

LIVIN' IN A JAM SPREAD (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 9 October 2009 07:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

I <3 Johnny Blade too.

Nate Carson, Friday, 9 October 2009 07:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

"Changes". And nothing but "Changes".

― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Thursday, October 8, 2009 5:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Youre a jerk

Bill Magill, Friday, 9 October 2009 13:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

"...even when few Sabbath fans care about 'never say die' and 'technical ecstasy'."

You dont speak for me. What the fuck are you talking about????

Bill Magill, Friday, 9 October 2009 13:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

If you're gonna say dumbass shit like this, you got no right to start this poll.What the fuck

Bill Magill, Friday, 9 October 2009 13:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

FEW Sabbath fans

Moka, Friday, 9 October 2009 18:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

You're wrong. Just check out the Never Say Die thread.

Bill Magill, Friday, 9 October 2009 18:53 (4 years ago) Permalink

And by not caring I meant that most Sabbath fans are more likely to listen to any of their 6 first albums on any giving day than picking up their last two albums with Ozzy. Only those with injuries on their brains would rate them higher than anything that came before them.

Moka, Friday, 9 October 2009 18:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

*any given day

Moka, Friday, 9 October 2009 18:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm not saying theyre bad albums. Every single Sabbath album has got redeeming qualities. I just think any sane Sabbath fan wouldn't pick them as their best material.

Moka, Friday, 9 October 2009 18:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

So anyways. I apologize. Care was a strong word. I meant that they're less important to most Sabbath fans than their first 6 albums.

Moka, Friday, 9 October 2009 19:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

"Only those with injuries on their brains would rate them higher than anything that came before them."

Fighting words,man. Just shut up.

Bill Magill, Friday, 9 October 2009 19:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Ok.

Moka, Friday, 9 October 2009 19:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

No amount of time on the tree of woe with vultures pecking my eyes and Mako massaging my feet could bring me to a final decision on this. Album by album, yeah I could vote for 1 song then, but this is impossible.

Stillborn birth of a display name (Jon Lewis), Friday, 9 October 2009 19:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

"Only those with injuries on their brains would rate them higher than anything that came before them."

Fighting words,man. Just shut up.

― Bill Magill, Friday, October 9, 2009 3:04 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Actually, you're obviously free to your opinion, even if you dont like those two albums. I just dont think you are correct about what Sabbath fans think about those two albums.

I vote Supernaut, even though this is an excrutiatingly hard poll.

Bill Magill, Friday, 9 October 2009 19:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think its fair to say that tech x and nsd are the LEAST listened to ozzy sabbath albums. you know, in all of history.

scott seward, Friday, 9 October 2009 19:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

when i was a lil' sabbath fanatic it took me a long time to even FIND a copy of technical ecstasy in a record store. and this was 1980.

scott seward, Friday, 9 October 2009 20:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

"Changes" is a genuinely wonderful song. I listened to it all day on repeat once.

existential eggs (Abbott), Friday, 9 October 2009 20:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

Into the Void. Cos it's heavy as fuck.

Duke, Friday, 9 October 2009 20:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think its fair to say that tech x and nsd are the LEAST listened to ozzy sabbath albums. you know, in all of history.

― scott seward, Friday, October 9, 2009 3:59 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Fair point, but the assertions that "nobody cares about them" and that "you have to have a brain injury to like them" are BS. NSD is like one of my top 5 albums of all time, by any artist.

Bill Magill, Friday, 9 October 2009 20:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

NSD is like one of my top 5 albums of all time, by any artist

Well, that's also fair enough. But you would perhaps concede that it is unusual for someone to reserve a place on their "top 5 albums of all time by any artist" list for NSD. I think Moka was simply saying that most folks prefer the earlier stuff.

Duke, Friday, 9 October 2009 20:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

torn between, uh, the wizard/supernaut/symptom of the universe/children of the grave

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Friday, 9 October 2009 21:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

You Moka me crazy.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 October 2009 21:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah I love it but I'd say Moka is undervaluing it and Bill is overvaluing it a bit. Not that there's anything wrong with either opinion. It's a good record and has a lot of songs I dearly love. But it's a tiny minority (as Moka inferred) that will prefer it to the first 6.

Personally, I feel strongly about all Sabbath albums through Born Again. There's not a worthwhile entry after that until Dehumanizer and the new Heaven & Hell.

Nate Carson, Friday, 9 October 2009 21:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

What's your opinion on Eternal Idol and Headless Cross?

Duke, Friday, 9 October 2009 21:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

I voted for "Call Me"... I mean "Children of the Grave."

Defender Of The Girly Metal Faith (J3ff T.), Friday, 9 October 2009 21:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

Sorry again for the 'only those with injuries in their brains' thing, I didn't chose my words wisely. It didn't sound that harsh of an opinion in my head but the more I read it the more I realize how it could've come off as extremely offensive.

Already repeated throughout thread a couple of times but the only assumption I wanted to make was that their first 6 albums are better by general consensus and that few people would choose NSD and Technical Ecstasy over the rest. I wasn't aware you were one of those few fans and I apologize, once again, for my offense to your kind upthread.

Moka, Friday, 9 October 2009 21:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

What's your opinion on Eternal Idol and Headless Cross?

― Duke, Friday, October 9, 2009 2:11 PM (1 hour ago)

I think there are good riffs on those discs, but no entire songs that rule. It's too bad.

Nate Carson, Friday, 9 October 2009 23:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

Well, by metal I meant hard rock... I think.

"Changes" is hardly hard rock. :)

Really, I like a lot of Black Sabbath, also some of the darker stuff. But "Changes" is such a beautiful song it still stands in a league of its own here. Not because it's "atypical", but because it's great.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Saturday, 10 October 2009 01:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

Voted st because it's so sludgy and dark and it has that church bell and the first time I ever heard Ozzy yell "Oh god please help me!" I was instantly ROTFL in joy.

Adam Bruneau, Saturday, 10 October 2009 02:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

^^^that track scared the shit outta me when i was thirteen-years-old.

Sgt. Raggett's Harpy Hearts Club (Suggest) Banned (Ioannis), Saturday, 10 October 2009 08:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

Supernaut but my deliberations were similar to Jordan's.

Doran, Saturday, 10 October 2009 08:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

>What's your opinion on Eternal Idol and Headless Cross?

I think there are good riffs on those discs, but no entire songs that rule. It's too bad.

Thanks. I was tempted to pick these up a while back. Allmusic has it that they are fine albums. I couldn't bring myself to do it.

Duke, Saturday, 10 October 2009 09:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

" and I apologize, once again, for my offense to your kind upthread."

Accepted, I understand what you were getting at. And yes, it is correct, those last two Ozzy albums are generally considered, rightly or wrongly, the red headed step-children of his time with the band.

Bill Magill, Monday, 12 October 2009 13:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

didn't j0hnD say he liked Never Say Day best of all Sab albums somewhere 'round these here parts? i'd like to see him argue that point further, tbh.

wot?? (Ioannis), Monday, 12 October 2009 13:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

I dont know if he said it was his favorite but he did a pretty funny flowchart diagram where he made it clear that it was at least in the discussion.

Bill Magill, Monday, 12 October 2009 14:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

right, that was it.

wot?? (Ioannis), Monday, 12 October 2009 14:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 30 October 2009 00:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 31 October 2009 00:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

lol at 5-way tie for second.

ian, Saturday, 31 October 2009 00:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Check out the new Sabbath compilation. No "Supernaut," and not a single track from Sabotage. Sacrilege!

http://heavymetalmessenger.com/new-black-sabbath-iron-man-the-best-of-coming-next-month

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

I am confused as to exactly what the Sabbath camp is doing here.

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

I was a little more harsh on this thread than I believe was necessary, in retrospect.

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

haw, really, nothing from Sabotage? I'm pretty new to deep Sabbath fandom, but I think that is my fave album by them.

tylerw, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

speaking of 'em, saw that the "classic albums" doc for paranoid is streaming on netflix now. will watch soon!

tylerw, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Just saw that recently, it's great. You get to hear the untreated vocals on "Planet Caravan"

Johnny Hotcox, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I just got a boot that has "Planet Caravan" without the Leslie effect. It's kinda neat to hear.

wan brujo (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 11 May 2012 05:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

speaking of 'em, saw that the "classic albums" doc for paranoid is streaming on netflix now. will watch soon!

I didn't even know this existed! I'm not on Netflix but I'll probably just buy the dvd.

That new comp looks, erm, superfluous...

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 11 May 2012 08:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Paranoid Classic Albums thing is excellent. Seriously thorough. The Planet Caravan part is awesome.

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 11 May 2012 13:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

I havent seen a bad one in that series, by the way.

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 11 May 2012 13:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

How did Lord of This World only get one vote?
Also: I'm chained to Spotify at work and they don't have anything by BSabbath with Ozzy. Thumbs down.

brosef, Friday, 11 May 2012 14:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ozzy era stuff is apparently pretty locked down so Sharon and Co. can continue selling you CD's of songs you already have in about 10 formats.

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 11 May 2012 15:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

We in the UK have the full Ozzy years catalogue, with the exception of Vol 4, for some reason.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Friday, 11 May 2012 15:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

Vol. 4 had a strange producer credit, i dont remember the exact story, but i think their manager was listed as producer (even though he did nothing). There was later significant litigation between him and the band. That may have something to do with it-i could be wildly off though, I'm just guessing.

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 11 May 2012 15:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

it used to be there, but has been pulled. The others are there in the recent re-issue formats.

I bought a Vol 4 t-shirt the other day, which I was happy to get since I understand there are merchandising rights issues as well.

It must be a lot of laughs having to deal with all this.

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Friday, 11 May 2012 15:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

Results of this vs All Time Metal Tracks Poll

I must be old, I recognise nobody in ITV2 idents (aldo), Friday, 11 May 2012 20:44 (1 year ago) Permalink


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