50 songs from early-80s NYC that are punk AND disco AND hiphop

1. Melle Mel, "White Lines"

2. Blondie, "Rapture"

3. Coati Mundi, "Que Pasa/Me No Pop I"

4. Time Zone, "World Destruction"

5. ESG, "UFO"

contort yourself - James White and the Blacks

6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG31w1bub48

^7, sorry

8. Not so much hip hop, but....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmn-P4qbIwo

Liquid liquid - Optimo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSJ5eqVNnO0

10. Liquid liquid - cavern

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNG0lxI077k

I think asides liquid liquid and ESG there might be some 'a certain ratio' songs that might fit within the three genres.

11. Sexual Harassment "If I gave you a party"

"8. Not so much hip hop, but...."

wrong thread

12. man parrish - hip hop bee bop (don't stop)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo_eaCDU8Q4&feature=fvw

13. Rammellzee + K-Rob - "Beat Bop"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I56Kkxh_os

OH MY GOD ITS THE COLD CRUSH

14. Cold Crush Brothers - "Punk Rock Rap"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOUutnzi17s

dope thread

15. Material - Don't Lose Control

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo1QBmxYsZU

dope thread

― Tombbot & Estello Meet Cankenstein (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, October 7, 2009 8:42 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

AGREED. :D

fuckin love 'beat bop' so much

Will we then have a poll choosing the best one? Or why limit it to 50?

Also is there any Ian Dury song that could fit here? I know he's not NYC but somehow I got reminded of him by listening to some of the examples so far.

I'll be shocked if we actually hit 50.

16. Defunkt - Defunkt

I'll be shocked if we actually hit 50.

― Akonimal Collockedup (Whiney G. Weingarten)

Maybe we've got a chance if we all cheat by adding bands which are not from the early-80s. Or NYC. Or punk and disco and hiphop.

late 70s should count imo

Rammellzee + K-Rob - "Beat Bop"

If you cats are going to contest the inclusion of the Bush Tetras, then let me fire back. "Beat Bop" is an awesome track, but I don't hear much punk therein.

17. WORDY RAPPINGHOOD

xpost, yr crazy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj52Jjr0nrs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqLEls2jHeo

the weirdo violin in 'beat bop' should get it over the line into some skronky post-punk category, surely!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIjrSGBjZic

i dunno if this fits or not but jeezus its so great who cares

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkIAHADJFGA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDAmqZUECgg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR9K2ISCUqg

was malcolm mclaren in nyc when he did that track, buffalo gals, etc?

BANG!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pqC563bX_w

what are we at now? like 25? halfway there!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCn-dvtO-PA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC8SeBT1viE

"Military Cut (Scratch Mix)" by DJ Grand Wizard Theodore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZPjvp0PJpI

Time Zone - World Destruction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93HWraYnSFc

^^^was in the first post, but thanks for posting the video, I'd never seen it

I was going to add an "(or more)" in the title, but I forgot

That Ian Dury mention upthread reminds me of "Reasons to Be Cheerful Pt. 3." "Spasticus Autisticus" sort of fits, too.

Oh, and Pigbros w/ Membranes cover of "Word Up." Do these have to be from New York? Cause then forget it.

prob not early-80s either considering the OG "Word Up" came out in '86

Fwiw, I think NYC is the least important part of this. I mean, fuck if I'm going to say Malcolm McLaren doesn't belong in this thread.

i was just coming to post either buffalo gals or worlds famous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNGkMinKKQI

Well if it doesn't matter if they're from NYC then Ian Dury definitely fits the bill:

I don't know what number we're in....

Ian Dury - Reasons to Be Cheerful Pt. 3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MfVtRtKGtU

The Disco Not Disco and Mutant Sounds compilations are a good starting point for this sort of thing iirc. There's hardly any strictly hip hop tunes in there but they are definitely grounded in some sort of funk-soul-disco influence which blends fine when paired with any hip hop song from the epoch.

A very silly thread but:

50. Bambaataa/Zulu Nation/Cosmic Force: "Zulu Nation Throw Down"

It mentions rap, disco, AND punk, the latter in the immortal words of Lisa Lee:

"Punk rock to the left and Patty Duke it to the right"

"ROCK ROCK TO THE PUNK ROCK/GIVE IT ALL YOU GOT"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuWVLuXAQdE

I was looking for the Vivien Goldman version, but this is the same song but without the Talking/rapping part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-t52zc8Ex4

and ebn ozn aeiou should probably be here just cuz.

― scott seward, Thursday, October 8, 2009 7:45 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

not on youtube!

http://video.filestube.com/video,ba988176bdc8668903ea.html

"bag lady" is though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nxV99Q0Otc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwDiJElr5hc

wish I could find Common Beat which is their rap/hip-hop track iirc

How is "White Lines" punk? It's more like rap AND disco AND doo-wop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7OCj33tRTg

The Leather Nun - F.F.A.

(link to hear it online, song is 100% NSFW)

I heard Once in a Lifetime on Hot 97 the other day with the DJ screaming "yo this is a classic this is the talking heads"

How is "White Lines" punk? It's more like rap AND disco AND doo-wop.

― Tuomas, Thursday, October 8, 2009 6:55 AM Bookmark

jacks its bassline from a punk song

Oh, I didn't know that. Which punk song?

50 songs from early-80s NYC that are punk AND disco AND hiphop

Wheel Me Out, Was Not Was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nXOW8Fx-zE

I really really really want to say "Planet Rock" but can't think of a convincing-enough argument for it being punk.

afrika bambaataa had a mohawk

well there you go!

I think would be kinda stretching it to even say Planet Rock is disco. Or at least I don't hear anything particularly disco in it.

he played the mudd club, rocked a mohawk, hung out with john lydon... seems punk enough for me

I'll take it to Planet Rock with

Twilight 22 - Siberian Nights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiW7NbkhbJ0

apocalyptic punk lyrics

You could dispute the hip-hop part. And it was 1978.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVwepyjMLio

surely bambaataa + material will suffice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-94oyXAORY

i was thinking the version of "clean on your bean" with the female vocals would make a nice fit

Need to reckon with this, too, I suppose:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGU8AW2wE8

Keith LeBlanc: "Malcolm X-No Sell Out."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJSmIYVp9YU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyjaFOehrXU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yDIo9n1y0Q

From the early 80s cult classic Liquid Sky, dig "Me and My Rhythm Box"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv0PYG1g_iY

Does this count?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTyfQZdZq8M

No.

this was a dope thread, wish I could see what the dead youtubes are.

someone should make a spotify playlist of whatever's still visible

rev how did u never tell me about this thread when you were coming to my dj nights

I think I had just moved to Portland when I started this thread and likely hadn't even hit up your night tbh

deleted youtubes:

beasties - cookie puss
bush tetras - too many creeps
double dee & steinski - lesson 1
malcolm mclaren - d'ya like scratchin
the computer people communicators - talking and scratching ??
or
konk - baby dee ??
man parrish - hip hop bebop
aural exciters - chinese rap
jah wobble - snake charmer
the strikers - body music
clash - magnificent seven
the cage ft nona hendryx - do what you wanna do
new age steppers - some love ???? mentions "vivien goldman version"
or prob more likely
vivien goldman - private armies from laundrette ep
the nails - 88 lines about 44 women
arthur russell - calling all kids???
lou reed - disco mystic
the bloods - button up
the dance - she likes to beat
funky four - feel it (the mexican)

or maybe sub "calling all kids" for "let's go swimming," which was actually released in the mid-80s

or it might be loose joints

or dinosaur or lola or something.

That one that says "baby dee-d..." has me baffled, too. It's not showing up clearly in google. Jacob Sanders is still around so he could tell us what track Vivien Goldman was on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XxF4WPh3ME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3CUHnUsk8M

(Bonzo Goes to Washington - 5 Minutes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc1flR0LgwY

Presumably the missing Konk tune is this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UCWvcJAy6k

I've never heard any punk in it, tho...

Wheel Me Out, Was Not Was
― Vast Halo, Thursday, October 8, 2009 2:38 PM (5 years ago)

This song is the most amazing thing ever.

If it doesn't have to be NYC, surely this fits too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJFShE1VfEc

no

always thought Moe's takedown of Bee here was punk as fuck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhuqTecycQQ

The version of Private Armies on the New Age Steppers record is a shorten dub version also on the Dirty Washing 12" but the longer version is the best one, imo.
This would be my pick for an Arthur Russell songs that fits disco, punk and rap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW8MlNIak_c

Not New York, not really hip-hop (but a lot of it begs to be sampled if it wasn't already), but punk and yes, disco can be heard here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pst5K6uEPUc

And though he's not New York, Billy Squier has a few songs that are disco, were sampled by hip-hop artists back in the day, and some riffs that were at least as punky as they were funky. I'm hard-pressed to come up with one song that combined all of it, though I think this comes closest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mVSPXVaEVE

I want to fit this in as well... It's New York (Long Island)! It's disco and hip-hop! It's kinda punk (in that I can totally hear a ska-punk band cover this unironically)! It's '70s though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=issAKgvbskA