both sides of butthash are on last.fm in full: http://www.last.fm/music/Cave/Cave+-+Butthash
― you! me! posting! (electricsound), Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I want the opener "Gamm" to go on forever
― van smack, Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Okay found their myspace. Here's what they have released so far
CAVE "Psychic Psummer" LP/CD/Cassette on Important Records 2009CAVE Made In Malaysia 7" on Important Records 2009CAVE/Skarekrau Radio split Jams Cassette 2009CAVE The Ride 7" on Static Caravan from UK 2009CAVE "Raw Vibes vol.1" Cassette 2008CAVE Butthash 7" on Trensmat Records from Ireland 2008CAVE/California Raisins split 10" on Permanent Records 2008CAVE 12" "Hunt Like Devil/Jamz" Double EP on Permanent Records 2008CAVE "Jamz EP" Cassette 2006CAVE "Hunt Like Devil EP" cd-r 2006
― van smack, Thursday, 20 August 2009 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Hey wow, I used to be in this band. I played synth onHunt Like Devil, it shouldn't be too hard for the intrepid googler to find, I imagine. New 12" is already recorded. Dudes are going on a Euro tour, as well.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 21 August 2009 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
http://sickness-abounds.blogspot.com/2008/10/cave-hunt-like-devil-ep-jamz-ep.html
I think that Vinyl copies of it are sold out, but the place to check would be Permanent Records or the myspace page http://www.myspace.com/realreelproWrite them a message, I'm sure they will get back to you. They may have some copies of it still, not sure. They probably don't have any of the singles anymore.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 21 August 2009 15:13 (fourteen years ago) link
wherever i read that they're like trans am ripping off a different set of stuff, that was otm.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 21 August 2009 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link
The keyboard player quit and they filled the void with Jeremy Freeze (from Jerusalem and the Starbaskets) on guitar. Played in town on Friday night and completely tore it down to the ground. Jeremy provides super solid rhythm guitar action and it basically makes Cave sound extremely dense. They are in Europe now, playing Madrid tomorrow night. Do see them if you can.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 28 September 2009 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link
aQ tracked me down a cd/lp of Hunt Like Devil hopefully it might be here by the end of the week. It's bizarre that the UK press isn't available in the UK at all, no distro can get it, they must all have been sent to the US.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 28 September 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link
That is weird. I haven't ever seen or heard the UK pressed one. Did Rocket do it?
― Trip Maker, Monday, 28 September 2009 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link
no idea, wont know til it arrives.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 28 September 2009 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.rocketrecordings.com/ it cant be rocket.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 28 September 2009 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link
its on permanent records and a wee bit of paper inside it says 2nd edition.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 October 2009 12:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Weird. Well, hope you like it! It's probably the last record I'll ever play on.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 1 October 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link
oh i heard the mp3s when it came out, its just taken me all this time to track it down!! aQ have been looking for it for me for well over a year. Monorailmusic couldnt get me one either, and russell who works in there, couldn't even get one for himself. Im just glad i finally got one!You should make another record man!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 October 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Anything could happen. Thanks.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 1 October 2009 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Rough Trade got pretty much all the 2nd version of the 1st Cave. It's here for anyone still looking.
It is fucking great. I Pazz'n'Jopped it.
― CosMc (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:14 (fourteen years ago) link
damn i coulda saved cash
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:22 (fourteen years ago) link
£18 with shipping it cost from aQ :(
Damn.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 1 October 2009 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
The first record is great, and has been an undying household/ipod favorite for a year or two now. The centerpiece track off the Hunt Like Devil side -- called Hunt Like Devil, in which the guy says "Hunt Like Devil" a bunch -- stands head and shoulders above anything else on it, but is so damn good that I don't care that the rest is just okay. Maybe the single best post-kraut stoner/space hybrid jam I've ever heard, by anyone, ever.
Loved that double EP so much that I've since picked up almost all of their other stuff, most of it criminally overpriced (hooray for $8 singles). Hunt Like Devil remains the pinnacle by a good margin, though it's all pretty decent if yr into the sound. Psychic Psummer has yet to fully grab me.
― That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
FWIW they'll probably never do anything with Important again.The band has nothing to do with the prices of the records. If you see them on tour, everything is reasonably priced. It's a sore point for the dudes in the band that the record costs 18 dollars in some stores.Glad people are digging the jams.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't get Important as a label. Their only unifying aesthetic criteria seems to be "underground importance" as filtered through OTM trend-hopping, so at least the name fits, but how the fuck do they get away with charging a billion dollars for shit? And how is the transparent pretension of the whole thing not universally repulsive?
― That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Was more dismissive than necessary in prev post. Psychic Psummer deserves more than "pretty decent", even if it ain't my favorite Cave.
― That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Thursday, 1 October 2009 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Just ordered from the rough trade store. Thanks for the heads up!
― van smack, Friday, 2 October 2009 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link
how weird, saw this thread, checked out their stuff and liked it, and now all of a sudden they're playing here next week. might be fun yes?
― sonderangerbot, Saturday, 10 October 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
holy shit, did not know about Jeremy joining...brilliant decision
― got that candy zing (Tape Store), Saturday, 10 October 2009 23:55 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF1PAMtBqLEnice cover of "Negativland" from Neu! I guess this is from last night or the night before.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link
this looks like fun!
― got that candy zing (Tape Store), Wednesday, 14 October 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Just got Raw Vibes vol 2. So far so good! The end of "Bobby's Hash" is terrific.
― van smack, Friday, 20 November 2009 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link
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― van smack, Friday, 20 November 2009 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh for shit's sake..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVRYc4meDTM
Driving up to Chicago to see their last show of the year at the Hideout tomorrow night. Cacaw (ex-Coughs) are playing, too. They are great, too.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 20 November 2009 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link
A new EP "Pure Moods" coming in May on Drag City..!
― van smack, Saturday, 24 April 2010 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link
lol, these guys are playing a head shop in my area this summer.
― tylerw, Saturday, 24 April 2010 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Loving "Brigitte's Trip (White Light/White Jazz)"
Can't wait to pick this up next week.
― a streaker named desire (van smack), Friday, 14 May 2010 01:46 (thirteen years ago) link
was late on psycic psummer but that would've been a guaranteed top 20 of 2009, at least. bummed they're not hitting up more of NE during their summer tour.
― Bastards of Young Dro, Friday, 14 May 2010 04:24 (thirteen years ago) link
liking pure moods a lot -- this is the first i've heard them, i think.
― tylerw, Friday, 14 May 2010 13:13 (thirteen years ago) link
sounds a LOT like Oneida. This is not a complaint.
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 14 May 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Also got onto this album pretty late but really dig it - the last track is a thing of beauty, like Jackie Mittoo produced by Conny Plank or uh something
― xylyl syzygy (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 14 May 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
oops, sorry, "this album" = Psychic Psummer, didn't even know there was a new one but I am super-excited for that now! thank you ILM
It's a new ep, no?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 14 May 2010 14:54 (thirteen years ago) link
yes, 3 songs, about 20 minutes
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 14 May 2010 14:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Ah, I thought from the price on Rough Trade it was a cheap LP rather than an expensive EP. And apparently Norman Records have sold out of them despite them only arriving yesterday. Time to shop around...
― xylyl syzygy (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 14 May 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
love CAVE
― Tape Store, Friday, 14 May 2010 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
good stuff
― am0n, Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link
if this band is like oneida i will like cave
― you better check that sausage before you put it in the rofl (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 19 May 2010 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
saw these guys last night in Denver -- hollly shit, they were good. would highly recommend them to anyone. kind of worried their records are going to start sounding limp in comparison!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Gonna see them at pitchfork lol
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 22:43 (thirteen years ago) link
These guys are pretty directly up my alley, loving the Pure Moods EP right now.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
look what i got over the weekend! (not a ceiling fan)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8248/8519440201_a9d9062c3d.jpg
went to the store for the special green version, it's pretty
the sound is what i expected EXCEPT each track gets progressively more and more layered (to the point of busyness occasionally but usually evens out) and ends with a midtempo jam that lends itself to dancing, more like a cave song but through an 80s electropop filter. kinda weird! i like it.
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Monday, 4 March 2013 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
Actually, the dance jam at the end of one of the title track isn't 80s, more Neu. Either way, I like it. Wish I had gone to at least ONE of those shows, but OH WELL.
― and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Monday, 4 March 2013 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
Bajas just played a local gig last week! BB started as Cooper's solo gig, but has since expanded to a three piece. There is already another album in the can and lots of stuff in progress, too, I think. I heard some of the new Cave record-in-progress, too, and I'm really excited about it.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 4 March 2013 14:57 (eleven years ago) link
bajas may tour dates FYIbitchitronics coming to a town near you
Bitchin Bajas May tour dates:
9 - Indianpolis, IN @ House
10 - Columbus, OH @ Double Happiness
11 - Pittsburgh, PA @ 6119
12 - Philadelphia, PA @ Little Berlin
16 - Portland, ME @ tba
17 - Boston, MA @ Video Underground
18 - Brooklyn, NY @ Body Actualized
19 - Brooklyn, NY @ Body Actualized * Cosmic Yoga
23 - Lafayette, IN @ tba
24 - Chicago, IL @ Empty Bottle
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 6 May 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
wtf is cosmic yoga?!
pretty much what their new album sounds like! i got a promo and i was blasting it -- my wife asked "are you doing yoga up there?"
― tylerw, Monday, 6 May 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
cave or bitchies?
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 6 May 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
bitchin bajas new one
― tylerw, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link
yeah, it's really good! the end of each song gets a little fast for yoga, or at least my kind of yoga. more like groovy dance party!
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 6 May 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link
Every Sunday we host a Cosmic Yoga party. These parties involve a more relaxed and casual yoga class accompanied by live music, performed by various artists and bands. After yoga, our chefs create raw/living foods dinner which are provided at affordable and reasonable prices
― mizzell, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link
here's the info on the new one, in inimitable drag city style
Bitchin Bajas are back, baby! Their new album Bitchitronics, out July 16, 2013 on Drag City, is ready with the quickness we expect from the Chicago-based band - which is funny, since their area of expertise and mastery is in the area of synthetic ephemeral sonic languidity known more instinctively, inclusively (and let's face it, irresponsibly) as drone music. Put it this way - they make slow music at a fast pace. Bitchitronics is their first realized record as a trio.
Since their first appearance way back in 2010, Bitchin Bajas approach has been simple - unfold tones via synth and keyboard, allowing micro-frequencies to press against each other in a way that pleases the ear, the mind and the soul. From record to record (three albums, a split 7" and a split 12", a cassette and an 12"EP), their process is redefined by confronting the technologies of formative and outmoded machines, sliding into different quadrants of the ambient/post-organic/electronic/and drone universe each time around. Thus, the experience of slipping inside their music seems so singular and pure, like floating naked in a sensory deprivation tank. Just us and our minds and the music. Simple, right? But other things occur underneath...
For Bitchitronics, the concept was: use tape techniques to create and then solve problems - loops and edits were there to make things fun and the music great in the style of experimental tape pioneers upon whose shoulders the Bajas play. Mission bitchin' accomplished! Recording was mostly done in, all over and around a house in Fennville, MI with three tape machines reeling in the sounds - sometimes, in addition to sounds that have never seen the light of day, you're also hearing the sound of the light of day on the tape (or when they recorded at night, evening stars). Two 1/4" tape machines were utilized to make loops and execute the Bitchitronics sound system, one of which discreetly captured the combined sounds of the loops with live playing. Once done, it was back to HQ where edits of the 1/4" recordings were utilized to create larger tapestries on the 2-track master tape.
You want to use the Bitchitronics method for yourself? That's how it's done! Taking the long path to realize this album makes for some heavenly music indeed.
― tylerw, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
that sounds maximum fruitywould stretch/breathe under those conditions...maybe?
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 6 May 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
first song is called "transcendence" last song is called "turiya"...
― tylerw, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
oh ok i haven't heard it yet because i'm not on the promo circuitlooking forward to it!
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 6 May 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
it's great -- first tune is heavy on the no pussyfooting/frippertronics vibes.
― tylerw, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
They've been huffing Alice Coltrane.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
http://www.twitteringmachines.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/alice_coltrane_turiyasings.jpg
― tylerw, Monday, 6 May 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link
that sounds greatlove alice!!
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, 6 May 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
dude djing at our last show played some bajas, it made everyone's ears perk up.. must have been something from krausened as i didn't know it
― groovy replacement (electricsound), Monday, 6 May 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link
http://www.dragcity.com/products/threacehttp://www.dragcity.com/system/album_products/images/2132/large.jpg?1372877757Behold, Threace! It's the brand new LP from international touring sensations CAVE, arriving October 15th, and it might just bring an end to your party -- no more dancing, no more talking, just people listening to every last clang, tweet and honk of a band really getting after it. Recorded on a 1" 8-track Scully machine that may or may not have spent some quality burn-in time at Muscle Shoals, Threace was half-planned and half-jammed using different mic placements, building up from a basic set of as few mics as possible. Then, they got out the razor blade and...well, this isn't the Rolling Stones! They used it to cut tape (and realities) together into a metro-musical albumen that's only started to flower in this world. Threace comes on guitar up and jelly tight, saving the keys for color commentary among the beats. Cooper and Jeremy explore their six-string relationship, finding shared space, ducking, parrying, working the edges, and finally, twinning to gut-clutching effect. Meanwhile, there's a cameo appearance from sax and flute textures in here that create new soul-jazz sensations. Last and most, Dan and Rex bring the heavy with thickness, moving rhythm with exceptionally light feet, playing coloristically while always driving, driving, ever driving, bearing the lode and raising the arch under which everything happens in CAVE. CAVE are known for playing with rolling funk minimalism; Threace finds them inhabiting their cut-up aesthetic with tremendous ease and fewer reference points than before. They access new depths of meditative stasis, and then torpedo the dream and turn on a dime to ride the riffs again. On Threace, CAVE have gained access to their unconscious mind, and we hope they never find their way out again.
― tylerw, Friday, 5 July 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
After the record release show last night, I feel like Bitchin Bajas deserve their own thread. I had to leave early, but they were playing as a 9 piece with strings, 3 guitars, a flute and a...bass clarinet? It was really great, better than expected. I'm not much into boosterism but I feel like they're going somewhere. They're not all the way there yet (imo), but they've got the texture just right. I am hoping they bring that guitarist back who played last night. WHOOEY. It was good, aaaaaaaaalmost reminded me of some of the more soaring guitar parts in LT-LN era Popol Vuh but maybe that's just wishful thinking. It's just the melodic boost they needed though, I liked it. More flute pls!
Next month they are gathering a bunch of people to perform IN CNot the key of C, but the Terry Riley composition entitled IN C
I mean they named their album Bitchitronics ffs -- they are practically begging you to like them! Anyway I plan on listening to it while I clean the floors today. Cosmic yoga mop time.
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Saturday, 13 July 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
here Bitchin Bajas
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Saturday, 13 July 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
Here is a little history of the Bitchpork festival that was curated and staffed by members of CAVE and friendshttp://pigeonsandplanes.com/2013/07/bitchpork/After you hit "continue reading" scroll up to read the text.
― Trip Maker, Sunday, 21 July 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link
new album is sounding pretty fusion-y in parts. in a good way.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link
where's it at
― sup (billstevejim), Thursday, 5 September 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link
hey is dj trip maker the same as ilx's trip maker? i saw the name bc i'm going to see this band (AGAIN) tonight and apparently that's who is the inter-set dj, would be too weird to not be the same person but who knows?!if so, see you there!
― special beet service (La Lechera), Friday, 20 September 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link
how was the show? new video herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLrofQRFQ6k
― tylerw, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
it was great!! they have a new secret weapon -- i don't know the guy's name but i saw him when he played with bitchin bajas. i really liked the added baritone sax/flute stuff. he also had a snare and cymbal but i couldn't always hear their contribution. as always, they were super tight. i have an altogether new appreciation of the drummer for playing the exact same beat for as long as he plays it. yikes.
― special beet service (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link
yeah that dude is a machine. there is some horn action on the new one, it is pretty good. really does kinda sound like herbie hancock/headhunters/miles in the 70s at times.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
yeah they were very tight, the rhythm section in general is sick. i hadn't seen them in a few years, i was surprised that dude who used to pretty much only play keys was now pretty much only playing guitar. he's a good guitarist but i missed the keys tbh, my fave song live had him on keys and the "secret weapon" on flute. the flute playing was great bc he wasn't doing jazz solos or whatever, he was doubling the keyboard part and it sounded amazing.
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
new video btw http://www.thefader.com/2013/09/24/video-cave-shikaakwa/
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link
lol i think that's the track i was just talking about with the flute.
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
cave cruise! http://t.co/oLVJYPPLzK
― tylerw, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link
new album is dope
― diamonddave85, Thursday, 7 November 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
Ha. La Lechera, I dj'd that gig in absentia. Cooper just used a bunch of mix tapes i've made for him over the years for the incidental music. i was surprised that dude who used to pretty much only play keys was now pretty much only playing guitar.Two different dudes.
They played in town on Halloween. I got to sing a cover of "Sister Ray" with them at the end of the set. Lots of fun.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 11 November 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link
that sounds awesome -- where's the youtube?
― tylerw, Monday, 11 November 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
I don't even have a photo!I was wearing a pink blouse, blue shades, and a blonde wig.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 11 November 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link
Ugh that sounds SO FUN!! Did you sing the whole thing?! man that sounds like fun.
All I remember from your mix was Bohannon but it was enjoyable!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 11 November 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link
We didn't play it for twenty minutes. I sang maybe three verses and improvised a "freakout" that climaxed with repetition of the phrase "don't shake me, lucifer." We were going to cover a Roky Erickson song but current events changed our original plan.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 11 November 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link
'silver headband' on the new one is so sick. not many can evoke the neu! vibe without resorting to a generic motorik beat. agree with tyler on the rest of it pulling serious fusion moves.
― the zaprudest film xxx (haitch), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link
they're playing a reunion(?) show on new years
― scoff walker (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link
recent interview with cooper crain said there'd be a new Cave album out this year ... but I haven't heard anything else. Cave drummer is playing with Nathan Bowles now ... http://www.nyctaper.com/2017/10/nathan-bowles-trio-september-8-2017-three-lobed-wxdu-hopscotch-afternoon-jamboree-raleigh-nc/
― tylerw, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
an erstwhile ilxor is DJing!
i am thinking about goingwondered what happened to their drummer -- who's playing if it's not that guy?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
haha yeah i just noticed trip maker in this thread!
i had heard the reason cave hadn't been playing shows was cuz the drummer had moved. but your guess is as good as mine whether or not he'll be playing new years. i hope he is, though
― scoff walker (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link
ha yeah, i hope that they're making a long distance relationship work — Cave w/o that drummer seems a little pointless.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 18:02 (six years ago) link
i thought BBs were CAVE w/o that drummer;)
i am just wondering which local drummer would be his repacement -- an unknown? one of the many excellent known drummers in Chicago?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link