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Pick a one song that sums up Pavement: Range Life

― Micheline, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

loretta's scars

it's catchy and static-y, so yeah. um...

― brains, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"jackals, false grails: the lonesome era" - slanted & enchanted

jagged repitition, oberheim squelch-factor=10+ in the era of "guitar", simultaneous backward/forward eyespan, that early pavement drum style.

runner-up: "texas never whispers"

― gygax! (i forgot my blog password), Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Stop Breathin" Just one of many masterpieces on Crooked Rain Crooked Rain.

― Tim DiGravina, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i wonder if i still like 'em. possibly "here"? i suspect it's not a good example of what pavement did best, tho.

― mitch lastnamewithheld, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"SUMMER BABE" its Pavementness wrapped up into a whole little snugs bug. It makes me nostalgic for a time that I wasnt even there to appreciate. Fuck I love Pavement. I used to think "Grounded" was my fave actually,it aint that far behind...its so beautiful....Pavement have got so much a better way with melody and cadence its fucking ridiculous...fuck Mark E Smith...from the bottom of my heart i think all Pavement haterz are godamned idiots..

― michael bourke, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"zurich is stained"

― Jeff, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Sue Me Jack"--maximum output from minimum notes--how this one managed not to be on an album I'll never know.

― Douglas, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, i'm with mike on 'grounded' (or at least i was, sometime soon i'll have to go thru a complete pavement re-evaluation)

― mitch lastnamewithheld, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"silence kid" is good

― Eugene Coffey, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Grounded"--whiteboy angst in extremis, so dramatic, so pretentious- because-it-can't-help-itself-so-fuck-it-let's-do-it-anyway, so arresting from the git and so filled with some of the best guitar ever

― M Matos, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Trigger Cut.

― chris sallis, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

forklift

― keith, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

arresting from the git you say?

― chris sallis, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Trigger Cut.. or perhaps Our Singer

― electric sound of jim, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

'Zurich is stained' or 'no life singed her' (=the only listenable tracks on S&E).

― ciaran, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

-Shoot the Singer-

― Aaron A., Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

gold soundz.

― queenoftheharpies, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Trigger Cut" - just for the opening lines. Ecstatic and obtuse.

― J Blount, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Grounded" is gorgeous but seems a little too steady in its narrative flow to "sum up" Pavement. "We Dance" ("Pick out some Brazilian nuts for your engagement / Check that expiration date, maaan / It's later than you think") or "Stereo" ("Pigs they tend to wiggle when they walk / Their infrastructure rots / And the owners hate the jocks / With their agents and their dates...") might do the trick. Musically, the guitar outro of "Stop Breathing" sums the band up -- it liberally "samples" a Can song! There ya go.

― Jody Beth Rosen, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The Empty Page.

― Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Trigger Cut" is the most Pavement-y song ever.

― paul, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

well i was going to say 'grounded' as well, it seems a popular choice. so, either that, or stop breathin.

i very rarely listen to pavement anymore, i need to make a decent cdr of all the good tracks

― gareth, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

"Trigger Cut" was my first favorite Pavement song and perhaps still a good summary of the band. It's quintessential Pavement in a number of ways: stream-of-consciousness lyrics perpetually threatening to make sense, classic pop hooks married with edgy guitar noise, a suffusion of twenty-something angst.

― o. nate, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

*zurich is stained*

― jk, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Box Elder

― Leigh, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

without a doubt, I'll take Grounded from Wowee Zowee The melody is really pretty: the steady rhythm augmented by SM and Stairs' guitars that chime and ring unbelievably. I don't know what to make of the lyrics but Malkmus delivers them in such a way that "latent causes sterile gauzes and the bedsid morale" comes off as an anthem of sorts. Amazing song.

― John S., Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Fillmore Jive!

― jel --, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

here
i was dressed for success
but success it never comes
and i'm the only one who laughs
at your jokes when they are so bad
and your jokes are always bad
but they're not as bad as this

For the sweet mellow tune and the words. One of the first songs I ever heard of them. Melancholic tenderness.

― alex in mainhattan, Wednesday, 26 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

five months pass...

Shoot The Singer (1 Sick Verse)

"Slow it down, SONG IS SACRED!!"

― Tim Beam, Friday, 20 December 2002 16:21 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...

Okay so I can't understand how nobody mentioned "No Tan Lines".

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 05:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Flux=Rad / Fight This Generation

― christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 12:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't have the record in front of me. But I pick the one on "side one" of "Crooked Rain" where he say "Up to the top of the Shasta gulch/To the bottom of the Tahoe Lake." That song is the one I love the most of all the songs I love.

― Jess Hill (jesshill), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 13:01 (twenty-three years ago)

home
some king chooser will wind up with my number

― j fail (cenotaph), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 13:01 (twenty-three years ago)

"inside the mouth, a desert" or "texas never whispers"

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 13:02 (twenty-three years ago)

heaven is a truck, right?

― Vic (Vic), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 13:06 (twenty-three years ago)

"Stop Breathin'", especially the ending.

― Evan (Evan), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 13:11 (twenty-three years ago)

you're thinking of "Unfair," Jess Hill

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 13:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Jody, which Can song does "Stop Breathin'" rip off? I've noticed that there's definitely subtle references to Can here and there, but I never noticed anything blatant.

― Andy Beckerman, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:02 (twenty-three years ago)

"Silent Kit" or "Elevate Me Later"

― Patrick South (Patrick South), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:18 (twenty-three years ago)

"Pueblo," hands down. I've gotten in two bad car wrecks while listening to it, prolly cuz I used to like the song so much ("Who needs to steer when you can rawk out!!!!" *CRASH*)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:21 (twenty-three years ago)

malkmus has said as much re. "stop breathin", but i dont think it's mean to mimic any particular song. the end sounds a lot like the guitar work on monster movie.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:21 (twenty-three years ago)

"Gold Soundz" or "Range life." gosh those are great. "Spit on a Stranger" is pretty definitive, too.

― scott m (mcd), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:21 (twenty-three years ago)

don't hear/get the monster movie/"stop breathin'" connection...

interested to hear what can song JBR thinks the outro rips... ^_^

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:50 (twenty-three years ago)

It reminds me of the bass on a particular Ege Bamyasi song, but I can't remember which one.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)

such vague mystery:
can one fingerpick a bass?
crack hath been smoken

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:14 (twenty-three years ago)

is that from a b-side?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:17 (twenty-three years ago)

you mean you don't know

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:21 (twenty-three years ago)

"Unfair," yes. Good one.

I always liked, #2 I guess, "Westie Can Drum." Great riff.

― Jess Hill (jesshill), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 18:15 (twenty-three years ago)

No Tan Lines is pretty valid. But I'm gonna go with Texas Never Whispers.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 21:36 (twenty-three years ago)

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Get out those hard-hats
And sing us some skat
Blade gushers gush
Chained and perfumed
I don't need a minister to call me a groom

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 December 2017 20:58 (eight years ago)

Grounded. It's a small masterpiece.

― nostormo, Friday, 22 December 2017 21:05 (eight years ago)

Never really saw why Grounded is so well liked.

My default is Give It A Day

― FREEZE! FYI! (dog latin), Friday, 22 December 2017 21:29 (eight years ago)

I like Grounded a lot, but not my fave.

If I were allowed a POT, it would be Box Elder and Trigger Cut.

But as I'm not, Box Elder I think.

― Colonel Poo, Friday, 22 December 2017 21:39 (eight years ago)

Grounded

― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 22 December 2017 21:57 (eight years ago)

unfair

― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 22 December 2017 22:16 (eight years ago)

too hard to pick one but Pueblo > Half a Canyon is just the best shit ever

― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 22 December 2017 22:21 (eight years ago)

Summer Babe

― kornrulez6969, Friday, 22 December 2017 22:24 (eight years ago)

"Circa 1762" that was on the Slanted & Enchanted reissue, I guess it was never recorded other than a Peel Session?

― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 22 December 2017 22:27 (eight years ago)

Fight this Generation has everything.

― kraudive, Friday, 22 December 2017 22:42 (eight years ago)

i am in fact leavin' (work) for the holiday season

but i always complain when it's hot

― mookieproof, Friday, 22 December 2017 22:49 (eight years ago)

this could be pavement heresy but i really like 'speak, see remember'

― global tetrahedron, Friday, 22 December 2017 23:12 (eight years ago)

i think the only heresy is picking a spiral song

― mookieproof, Friday, 22 December 2017 23:16 (eight years ago)

I always liked Kennel District

― Marty8501 (Marty Innerlogic), Saturday, 23 December 2017 16:19 (eight years ago)

impossible to choose

pueblo vs we dance vs here vs all of watery, domestic vs

― k3vin k., Saturday, 23 December 2017 17:01 (eight years ago)

Didnt mtv in the 90s play hit the plane down for one of their show’s outros? Never watched mtv tho so i have no way to confirm

― infinity (∞), Saturday, 23 December 2017 17:10 (eight years ago)

I usually think people who pick obscure and/or early songs in these circumstances are try-hard bellends but, fuck it: 'Frontwards' ;-)

― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Saturday, 23 December 2017 17:35 (eight years ago)

Friends lifted Rattled by the Rush in those early seasons. I imagine if the band had done something about that they’d have made a fortune in royalties

― Evan R, Saturday, 23 December 2017 17:40 (eight years ago)

Xp

Rly good track

― infinity (∞), Saturday, 23 December 2017 17:41 (eight years ago)

I'd like to check out your public protests

― droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 23 December 2017 17:52 (eight years ago)

Lifted? Bit of a reach, really?

― kraudive, Saturday, 23 December 2017 17:56 (eight years ago)

I know it sounds similar but

― kraudive, Saturday, 23 December 2017 17:56 (eight years ago)

It’s a pretty blatant rip. Not “hey they kinda sound similar” but “hey this music wouldn’t exist if they hadn’t copied it from the source”

― Evan R, Saturday, 23 December 2017 18:02 (eight years ago)

I just always assumed it was a coincidence

― kraudive, Saturday, 23 December 2017 18:21 (eight years ago)

there is no way this is a coincidence, and "lifted" is definitely not a reach:

This transition in friends sounds exactly rattled by the rush by pavement pic.twitter.com/wtFZwP6Phe
— gleemer (@GleemerBand) November 13, 2015

― alpine static, Sunday, 24 December 2017 04:16 (eight years ago)

Just heard their "killing moon" cover for the first time yesterday. God I love Pavement.

― brimstead, Monday, 25 December 2017 19:39 (eight years ago)

yeah that's legit one of my 5 favorite pavement songs, so good

― k3vin k., Monday, 25 December 2017 19:46 (eight years ago)

no soap in the jar

― mookieproof, Monday, 25 December 2017 20:54 (eight years ago)

the reference to "playing contract bridge" in Grounded seems like the most Pavement thing

― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 December 2017 23:14 (eight years ago)

i love the drumming on grounded

it seems very simple -- i don't really know anything about drumming -- but appropriate in a ringo way

― mookieproof, Thursday, 28 December 2017 03:45 (eight years ago)

“Shoot the Singer,” but these are all good choices. I miss Pavement.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 28 December 2017 07:08 (eight years ago)

this is such a beautiful performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_i4C8axWBs

― flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 06:58 (eight years ago)

really thrilling and moving

― flappy bird, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 06:58 (eight years ago)

four years pass...

I love "Strings of Nashville".

― djh, Wednesday, 27 April 2022 21:17 (four years ago)

Unseen Power of the Picket Fence

― calstars, Thursday, 28 April 2022 00:50 (four years ago)

No POX and can't do POO:

Give it a Day
Grounded
Silence Kit
Half a Canyon
Zurich is Stained
Texas Never Whispers
Frontwards
Gold Soundz
Shoot the Singer
Elevate Me Later

― we only steal from the greatest books (PBKR), Thursday, 28 April 2022 14:15 (four years ago)

Greenlander!

― tobo73, Thursday, 28 April 2022 14:57 (four years ago)

x-post - how different would that version of "Grounded" be to usual Pavement?

There's a darkness to it, possibly?

― djh, Friday, 29 April 2022 18:53 (four years ago)

I always assumed West was considered the “better drummer” than Gary but listening to the early stuff again, there isn’t any way in hell West could have pulled off the awesome fills at the end of Texas never whispers

― calstars, Friday, 29 April 2022 20:35 (four years ago)

Gonna go with those that say "Trigger Cut." Is it the very best song by Pavement? I'm not sure. But of the songs that could credibly be called the best song they ever wrote, it is the one, to me, which is most dead-center of the concept of what it is to be a Pavement song. There is no feature characteristic of Pavementness that it lacks.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 30 April 2022 03:12 (four years ago)

He’s one of nation’s spies
He’s one of our first recruits

― calstars, Saturday, 30 April 2022 03:43 (four years ago)

"Fame Throwa"! If only because it's bonkers and no one seems to talk about it much.

[Hahahaha, XPOST!!!!]

― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Saturday, 30 April 2022 03:45 (four years ago)

I like how involved and audible spiral is in the old stuff

― calstars, Saturday, 30 April 2022 03:48 (four years ago)

mike mills comp in 5, 4, 3……

― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 30 April 2022 05:51 (four years ago)

In the Mouth of a Desert

― And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Saturday, 30 April 2022 11:50 (four years ago)

I think I could say Shoot the Singer with little hesitation

― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Saturday, 30 April 2022 13:39 (four years ago)

Well I've seen saints, but remember
That I forgot to flag them down
when they passed

― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Saturday, 30 April 2022 13:41 (four years ago)

It's one of the songs where Malk is clearly trying to express something earnest, but can't do it directly, so it comes out sounding like nonsense. I prefer this to the sheer goof-off-itude of songs like "Fame Throwa", "Stereo" etc. (and I like those songs a lot!)

― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Saturday, 30 April 2022 13:43 (four years ago)

My pick is “Loretta’s Scars” (not sure if I’ve already posted in this thread).

― Hops: Mosaic, Citra, Simcoe (morrisp), Saturday, 30 April 2022 15:09 (four years ago)

^ “Lettuce”

― calstars, Saturday, 30 April 2022 16:18 (four years ago)

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