But there are a host of excellent new labels and artists kicking aboutnow, especially on the slo-mo house scene who are making excellent music. Labels likePrime Numbers and Trus’Me and artists like Mark E, Linkwood, The Revenge and Red RackEm. Their sound joins the dots in different ways between Moodymann style house, Detroittechno, deep house and disco edits.
I was just going to start a Mark E thread, but that quote made me think it was worth broadening it out, and maybe this stuff is different enough from other well-covered trends to be worth talking about.
So S/D, C or D etc.
Basically I just love the really slow, but still quite driving stuff.
― Jamie T Smith, Friday, 1 May 2009 15:51 (6 months ago) Permalink
At first, I was kind of oblivious to the edit genre and was cooped up at home making these dark insular Theo-esque beat down swirlers, spending hours in a smoky haze listening to the same loop over and over. It was only when I didn't know how to end one of these loop marathons that I just dropped the original track in at the end, and [Womack and Womack edit] 'Scared' was born.
― Jamie T Smith, Friday, 1 May 2009 15:52 (6 months ago) Permalink
Plus if anyone wants to share R&B Drunkie that would be great ... I've only heard it on mixes.
― Jamie T Smith, Friday, 1 May 2009 15:53 (6 months ago) Permalink
And I haven't actually heard all the Jisco stuff, apart from The Revenge track. What's good?
So anything that's too slow to be regular house, and too house to be nu disco - edits or original productions - could be discussed here.
― Jamie T Smith, Friday, 1 May 2009 16:00 (6 months ago) Permalink
Mark E is an amazing DJ, mostly played faster stuff than his own productions, but he dropped one slo-mo track near the end was just right in context and really kept the energy going. The Detroit Experiment remix is lovely.
― чалопик (Vasco da Gama), Friday, 1 May 2009 16:08 (6 months ago) Permalink
jamie where is that initial quote from?
i've thought of starting a mark e thread for a while too. that low motion disco remix from last year seems like the prime example for this stuff. total opposite to all the floaty balearic stuff that's around - really tense and wound-up.
i'd been wondering if mark e himself was a one-off but in the last couple of months there's been a bunch of stuff come out that's related to the revenge and 6th borough project in particular, it does seem like there's more of a scene of sorts behind it. (i haven't heard much of it though so i can't really expand beyond that.) plus there was that linkwood RA podcast, which is fantastic.
trus'me seems a bit more reverent to the whole KDJ/theo thing. too reverent maybe.
― butt_hurton (haitch), Friday, 1 May 2009 17:26 (6 months ago) Permalink
EVERYTHING, I own and severely appreciate the following
Scared(Mark E's first and possibly best edit of Womack & Womack's "Baby I'm Scared Of You")
Ray Gun/Touch(More dubby disco action, slightly faster, not as remarkable as others but still great in sets)
Cadillac/Planets(Quite possible The Revenge's most irresistible floor filler, put them on my radar at least)
Nightflight/Unfinished Edits.../Savin the Day(More upbeat disco edits, including an edit of the track from Ghostbusters that I love)
You're Welcome(Newcomer to Jisco Eddie C comes with "Let Your Mind Be Free" which has an incredible breakdown)
― space cowboy (san frandisco), Friday, 1 May 2009 17:46 (6 months ago) Permalink
also check out my blog, i post a lot of stuff like this regularly, including today's post!
http://www.discohorror.com
― space cowboy (san frandisco), Friday, 1 May 2009 17:47 (6 months ago) Permalink
r&b drunkie (aka dopest song everrrrrrrr) - http://www.sendspace.com/file/hbaicf
― just sayin, Friday, 1 May 2009 17:56 (6 months ago) Permalink
i was just about to do that!
― i am the eye in the sky... (psychgawsple), Friday, 1 May 2009 18:02 (6 months ago) Permalink
that quote up there may be from this recent interview: http://ultraastrum.blogspot.com/2009/03/black-country-boy-mark-e.html
― andrew m., Friday, 1 May 2009 18:11 (6 months ago) Permalink
love mark e. not a duff track yet. golden ears this guy.
― andrew m., Friday, 1 May 2009 18:13 (6 months ago) Permalink
i'm game for any of the revenge/6th borough/craig smith stuff. search: just a memory, rocky mountain drifter, planets, do it to the max, Hit Em' (6th Borough Project Mix).
the mark e remix of think twice is my recent favorite of his.
the horn break at 4:00 in just a memory is pretty much the most sublime thing
― jergins, Friday, 1 May 2009 18:19 (6 months ago) Permalink
as far as revenge mixes and radio shows go, they are a bit hit and miss (too much talking on the radio shows). the ooft that's house mix from a few months ago is fun. http://ooft.blogspot.com/ is one of those that when a new post comes up on my reader it's a must-download
― jergins, Friday, 1 May 2009 18:20 (6 months ago) Permalink
i disagree with san frandisco above about mark e's "touch" not being as remarkable as the others, that track is definitely a favorite of mine. the hit:miss ratio with these guys' physical releases is amazingly high, even if you kinda have to sift through the podcasts/radio shows.
i haven't heard much from red rack em, can anyone reccomend anything in particular?
― i am the eye in the sky... (psychgawsple), Friday, 1 May 2009 18:35 (6 months ago) Permalink
could anyone share the remix? the pressure dub is on youtube, but i have yet to hear the remix
― space cowboy (san frandisco), Friday, 1 May 2009 18:36 (6 months ago) Permalink
psych, you're right man, i meant really in relative terms really. his scared edit is quite possible one of my favorite edits, like of all time, and Smiling, which came after is also like incredible. touch and ray gun for anyone else would be great tracks, but for mark e they seem almost pedestrian
― space cowboy (san frandisco), Friday, 1 May 2009 18:37 (6 months ago) Permalink
but they're still great, i still play them out
also DO NOT forget about his Sun Shadow edit on Creative Use
http://www.discogs.com/Unknown-Artist-Sun-Shadow/release/1346565
has anyone heard the slave 1 release? i never bought but it's gotten good reviews
― space cowboy (san frandisco), Friday, 1 May 2009 18:40 (6 months ago) Permalink
OR his RA Podcast, which is like uggggghhhh all slow motion loopy amazingness
― space cowboy (san frandisco), Friday, 1 May 2009 18:41 (6 months ago) Permalink
btw, my gift to this thread...
― i am the eye in the sky... (psychgawsple), Friday, 1 May 2009 18:49 (6 months ago) Permalink
sun shadow is great, agreed. also worth mentioning is his 'love the action' mix for cool in the pool... http://www.coolinthepool.com/markeinterview2.html.
also, here's a nice little feature on golf channel records i found the other day that is kinda relevant to this thread i spose... http://ultraastrum.blogspot.com/2009/03/fore-golf-channel-records.html
― i am the eye in the sky... (psychgawsple), Friday, 1 May 2009 18:59 (6 months ago) Permalink
this is my favorite kinda stuff right now.
i'm currently uploading all the mark e and revenge/ooft stuff i have. also super in love with a fudge fingas track that samples marvin gaye.
― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Friday, 1 May 2009 19:34 (6 months ago) Permalink
great! i'm going to up a few of my favorite revenge sets this weekend
― jergins, Friday, 1 May 2009 19:35 (6 months ago) Permalink
here's the mark e mp3s i've found
01 R&B Drunkie (Mark E).mp301 Slave 1.mp31-01 Sun Shadow (Mark E Edit).mp3Baby I'm Scared Of You (Mark E Edit).mp3holy jungle (mark e dub).mp3
http://www.sendspace.com/file/xo1z7n
― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Friday, 1 May 2009 19:36 (6 months ago) Permalink
also really feeling the bside of this one.
http://www.vinylfrance.com/details.php?art=24320
― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Friday, 1 May 2009 19:45 (6 months ago) Permalink
here's the revenge stuff i have
http://www.sendspace.com/file/qk6lcg
02 La Isla Bonita (The Revenge Rework).mp302 The Snowman Rework.mp3Brothers Gonna Work It Out (The Revenge Rework).mp3Cadillac (The Revenge Rework).mp3Funky Space Reincarnation (OOFT Music Edit).mp3Georgie porgy (ooft rework).mp3Inherit The Wind (Revenge Rework).mp3Lost In Music (The Revenge Rework).mp3Love You More (The Revenge Rework).mp3One Of These Nights (Revenge Rework).mp3Savin' The Day (The Revenge Flat Top Mix) 1.mp3Skylarking (The Revenge Caribbean Sunrise Rework).mp3
― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Friday, 1 May 2009 19:53 (6 months ago) Permalink
btw, i got all these from blogs and stuff, i know the whole uploading thing is frowned upon now, but i'm just letting people stay lazy
― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Friday, 1 May 2009 19:54 (6 months ago) Permalink
mark e + revenge mixes link to same Revenge.zip file 116MB
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 1 May 2009 20:23 (6 months ago) Permalink
so much love.i am clearly going to have to have another listen to the mans stuff, given that seeing this thread pop up all the time is going to do my fucking head in.
― mark e, Friday, 1 May 2009 20:42 (6 months ago) Permalink
got that ghost note just for the mark e side. and it patiently builds to awesomeness. so so good.
i like his take on edits in the interview. like, with hip hop and (esp older) house and tons of other sample-based dance stuff there wasn't really the need to call them edits when you take loops and do your own thing with them. maybe too much of this stuff is referred to as edits than should be. of course "edit" is on everyone's tip of the tongue lately. and there's threads and fights about it everywhere already so i'll just shut up about it now.
― andrew m., Friday, 1 May 2009 20:51 (6 months ago) Permalink
in addition to that love the action mix psych mentions, a couple other of his mixes from '07 and thereabouts are rad. resident advisor and beats in space in particular. and peppered with his stuff.
here's that RA podcast
http://www.sendspace.com/file/m39g3d
― andrew m., Friday, 1 May 2009 21:05 (6 months ago) Permalink
T/S beardo vs slo-mo
― The Macallan 18 Year, Friday, 1 May 2009 21:06 (6 months ago) Permalink
Betty Botox - Music is Music
― The Macallan 18 Year, Friday, 1 May 2009 21:09 (6 months ago) Permalink
this beats in space may be my fave. the way it goes from funkadelic through this weird, meandering loops thing into the orb remix is pretty wild.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/swiqt7
― andrew m., Friday, 1 May 2009 21:10 (6 months ago) Permalink
dude, fuck the whole uploading frowned upon bs. thanks everyone on these. making my friday.
― oscar, Friday, 1 May 2009 21:15 (6 months ago) Permalink
sorry, here's the mark e zip
http://www.sendspace.com/file/e4oimj
― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Friday, 1 May 2009 21:58 (6 months ago) Permalink
"T/S beardo vs slo-mo"
slo-mo!! went on a mark e beatport binge yesterday.
― butter tickle (tricky), Friday, 1 May 2009 22:06 (6 months ago) Permalink
Thanks for the sendspace correction and thanks to everyone for making these mixes easy to grab.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 1 May 2009 22:29 (6 months ago) Permalink
So this is a thread for people who wish they were Theo but aren't nearly as good? Exciting. R&B Drunkie is my jam tho, I also had to pick up the JJ 12" to mix in with it.
― pipecock, Friday, 1 May 2009 22:39 (6 months ago) Permalink
i think what i love most about this genre is the bpms could be considered practically downtempo, but the way the tracks are arranged gives them that awesome chugging energy that makes you want to dance, at like 95 bpms (or faster)
― space cowboy (san frandisco), Friday, 1 May 2009 22:40 (6 months ago) Permalink
Real question: is this stuff analagous to chopped-and-screwed hip-hop?
― Matos W.K., Friday, 1 May 2009 22:45 (6 months ago) Permalink
I don't mean "does it sound like it," more "are there parallels." Seems like it to me. I like this stuff a lot, the little I've heard. And of course the Mark E RA Podcast was tremendous.
― Matos W.K., Friday, 1 May 2009 22:47 (6 months ago) Permalink
totally forgot about this dude from LA (from the podcast), anyone have any of his other records, i've heard big things and some sell for $$$ on discogs?
cole medina - love you inside out
― space cowboy (san frandisco), Friday, 1 May 2009 23:11 (6 months ago) Permalink
matos lemme get back to you after i put on these mp3s and sip on some codeine
xxpost
― The Macallan 18 Year, Friday, 1 May 2009 23:11 (6 months ago) Permalink
i have been mixing this stuff every other wednesday night at Seattle's Grey Gallery. Last night I started at 91bpm and moved through the Lissvik mix of Fever Ray into some Meanderthals, Rune Lindbaek, Cousin Cole, Revenge edits and more. Highlight of the set for me was going from Sabres of Paradise - Edge 6 into the Pressure Drop mix of Why Can't We Live Together. Set finished at 107bpms with the Revenge edit of One of These Nights.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 1 May 2009 23:15 (6 months ago) Permalink
*set also included Reggie Dokes - Black Children of the Ghetto which sounded much better over the PA than it has on my headphones.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 1 May 2009 23:16 (6 months ago) Permalink
Reggie Dokes blows all these other guys away. He's possibly my favorite producer at this point.
― pipecock, Friday, 1 May 2009 23:19 (6 months ago) Permalink
sounds like a good night. was the crowd into it? and woah has lissvik remixed anything else? xposts
― butter tickle (tricky), Friday, 1 May 2009 23:19 (6 months ago) Permalink
yes, the crowd were into it. by 'crowd' i mean my dj partner, my girlfriend, 2 of her friends and the bartender.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 1 May 2009 23:21 (6 months ago) Permalink
but maybe i just dont like this sloooow stuff & shouldnt be in this thread
― zzz (deej), Friday, 3 July 2009 08:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
i really wanted to hate the Regulate edit,
― pipecock, Saturday, June 27, 2009 11:42 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark
why?
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 3 July 2009 09:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
Dan138zig: PipecockPipecock: Dan138zig
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 3 July 2009 11:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
you mean we're the same person?
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 3 July 2009 11:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
I was introducing you as it seemed to me you couldn't have encountered him before if you needed to ask a question like that.
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 3 July 2009 13:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
"kinda prefer the og janet track
― zzz (deej)"
i like both, i keep the Janet 12" next to R&B Drunkie in the box. i have been playing the Janet much more often recently.
"why?
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr)"
i mean, that concept doesn't sound horribly ironic to you? it does to me. they pulled it off nicely tho, without sounding like a joke.
i didn't realise that they were behind that Cadillac joint. that's another one i don't care much for. there are so many better Hot Chocolate jams!
― pipecock, Friday, 3 July 2009 14:28 (4 months ago) Permalink
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, July 3, 2009 1:45 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark
hahaha, 99% of the internet know of pipecock.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 3 July 2009 14:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
cole medina DJ mix posted at DJH forums last week, 25 mins in so far = tiiiiiite
http://djhistory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47164
― hallmark race cards (donna rouge), Friday, 24 July 2009 06:45 (3 months ago) Permalink
new revenge rework of atmosfear's "dancing in outer space" up on http://www.discohorror.com but really check out the video to KRL's "Recession Beat" on the post. currently one of my summer jamz
― space cowboy (san frandisco), Friday, 24 July 2009 23:56 (3 months ago) Permalink
Linkwood to release debut LP
― jaxon, Friday, 4 September 2009 01:44 (2 months ago) Permalink
wooot
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 4 September 2009 03:22 (2 months ago) Permalink
so what's new?
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 4 October 2009 00:57 (1 month ago) Permalink
anyone else feeling the popular people's front?
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 4 October 2009 01:39 (1 month ago) Permalink
PPF up there with amplified orchestra for volume of quality edits, i reckon.
― surge gainsbourg protector (haitch), Sunday, 4 October 2009 01:43 (1 month ago) Permalink
wish i'd actually bought 'a collage education' for excellent rework of 'love can't turn around'.
love 'back 2 back' and ruf dog 'dirty' 12"s (which i did get).
― surge gainsbourg protector (haitch), Sunday, 4 October 2009 01:49 (1 month ago) Permalink
dirty is so insane!
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 4 October 2009 01:50 (1 month ago) Permalink
which is the best version, tho?
impossible choice. maybe unabombers??
― surge gainsbourg protector (haitch), Sunday, 4 October 2009 01:52 (1 month ago) Permalink
or maybe leo zero? would fit your more balearic tempo sets easily. they're all great!
― surge gainsbourg protector (haitch), Sunday, 4 October 2009 02:00 (1 month ago) Permalink
So this is a thread for people who wish they were Theo but aren't nearly as good? Exciting.
― pipecock
just caught this ironic gem
― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 4 October 2009 03:29 (1 month ago) Permalink
So this is a thread for people who wish they were Theo dilla but aren't nearly as good? Exciting.
― jaxon, Sunday, 4 October 2009 08:15 (1 month ago) Permalink
"just caught this ironic gem"
he warms our hearts from beyond the grave.
― Tim F, Sunday, 4 October 2009 09:41 (1 month ago) Permalink
haha. i thought i was in this thread when i posted that
itt: kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b
― jaxon, Sunday, 4 October 2009 17:28 (1 month ago) Permalink
mark e just released tons of stuff. i dig the freakin shriekin 12", and the one on endless flight (codsall juniors?) is growing on me
all instruments of rapture stuff from this year is also v good, tho the revenge seems to be falling off a bit with most of his other releases and remixes
also the don froth 12" from early this year is still doing it for me tho. and don't forget about the linkwood album!!!
― psychgawsple, Sunday, 4 October 2009 20:19 (1 month ago) Permalink
Some of the MCDE Raw Cuts tracks are right up this street too
― plazzTT, Monday, 5 October 2009 00:42 (1 month ago) Permalink
The recent Mark E 12" on Merc has a side ("track 1") that sounds like a slowed down house-y edit of an R-Tyme track!
― t (tricky), Monday, 5 October 2009 00:50 (1 month ago) Permalink
I know I always post Juno links, but really if you go to their best selling Deep House page it is like a primer on this stuff.
― t (tricky), Monday, 5 October 2009 00:55 (1 month ago) Permalink
NEW FIRECRACKER EP ALERT
― surge gainsbourg protector (haitch), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 00:09 (1 month ago) Permalink
are you talking about the intrusion dubs or something else? link?
― psychgawsple, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 00:53 (1 month ago) Permalink
it's a new one!
― surge gainsbourg protector (haitch), Wednesday, 7 October 2009 01:22 (1 month ago) Permalink
like an eagle! i'm stoked!
has everyone had a chance to listen to the linkwood full-length? totally willing to upload if need be
― psychgawsple, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 01:45 (1 month ago) Permalink
also just realized this came out earlier in the year- http://www.discogs.com/Ray-Mang-Mangled-Again/release/1806800. what i've heard is pretty stellar
― psychgawsple, Wednesday, 7 October 2009 02:08 (1 month ago) Permalink
so yeah, this is pretty much going to be the next big thing, i think, as the cosmic disco / balearic trend slowly dies down
so what's really good and new?
― moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 04:31 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
It's not super-new, but have you heard "Walk in Deepness" by Reggie Dokes? (on Prime Numbers) That is my jam. It's 120 BPM psychedelic jazz house, but sounds awesome pitched down.
The new Big Strick single on FXHE is very good as well. There are some techno tracks on it, but "A Walk Down Linwood" is definitely fitting for this thread. It came out on the FXHE comp earlier this year, but the new single has two versions. Beautiful keys.
― t (tricky), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 04:53 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Gotta agree with you tricky, that whole EP is pretty mindblowing. Its a shame we might lose him to making R'n'B.
I guess its not a shame for the autotune cru though, I'm kinda curious what his stuff might sound like.
Apparently he's a big Jam and Lewis head.
Back when I still had a weekly I played Jam and Lewis's Latin mix of Patti Austin Heat of Heat all the time. The semi-empty bar appreciated that, my friends begged me to play dubstep instead.
But that kind of late 80s modern soul slots in like a dream with this kind of thing.
Obviously with the Janet edit.
Anybody care for a FLAC of the track?
― Silent Ally (Siah Alan), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 07:16 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
if this is the next big thing it needs a stupid made up name
― Bobby Wo (max), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 12:50 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
hypnagogic disco
Who are you talking about "losing to R'n'B" Siah?
― matt2, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 15:15 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Reggie Dokes.
The John Daly - Sea & Sky album is pretty good. Can't wait for the Juju and Jordash album but I anticipate that being a bit faster in the bpm range.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 15:28 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
yo dawgs, this is deep house
― jaxon, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 15:35 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Is there an interview or something somewhere where he mentions going RnB?
― matt2, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:02 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
speaking of 'yo dawgs, this is deep house', the Lerosa mix up on InfiniteStateMachine is pretty much Slow Motion House. image even says Dead Slow. It's not very well mixed but the tracks are excellent.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 16:56 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
as good as some of this stuff is its a boring thing to be 'next' imo
― i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 18:19 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
http://www.popyourfunk.com/2009/08/interview-reggie-dokes-psychostasia-recordings/
A: Yes, I am currently producing R&B, Pop and Hip Hop in Atlanta. That was one of my reasons for coming to Atlanta, Georgia. I appreciate most genres of music, and it has always been a passion of mine to pursue and challenge myself creatively. Right now as far as R&B producers of the past, it would have to be Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Baby Face and L.A. Reid and Teddy Riley. In the present it would have to be Tricky Stewart and The Dream, Danja Handz, Timbaland and the Neptunes.
― Silent Ally (Siah Alan), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 18:27 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Thanks for that Siah. I had actually seen that interview, intended to read it, and never did.
― matt2, Thursday, 29 October 2009 18:06 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
motor city drum ensemble album japan-only? grrrrr.
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 2 November 2009 01:24 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
LO NRG
― andrew m., Monday, 2 November 2009 15:29 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
― matt2, Monday, 2 November 2009 17:09 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
golf (clap) channel?
― andrew m., Monday, 2 November 2009 18:43 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
slo fi
― jaxon, Monday, 2 November 2009 21:31 (2 weeks ago) Permalink