JOURNEY - CLASSIC or DUD (cf. STEVE PERRY, CLASSIC OR DUD)?

Blech. Ned, sometimes I wonder. You probably think Steve Perry is better looking than Matt Damon, too.

Anyway, um, Journey are so universally reviled it hardly seems worth the effort of hating them. It's sort of like Yes or Rush - how can they be overrated when everyone you know despises them? (Lately I've started thinking the same about The Strokes.)

I was about to say. Most one-celled lifeforms hold more inherent attraction than Matt Damon, as far as I'm concerned.

I really don't know that much about them, tho. He's got a grate voice. They like guitar solos. Normally I would hate this, but it's just so... classic

It will sit beside 'Bells together'. A dietrich/miller sax duo on Agaric. A good place.

But sometimes the shit fits.

Steve perry stole his entire vocal style from sam cooke, and whitened it for a mass marked audience, and never acknowledge his influence.

and for that he can rot in hell. ( i say that half jokingly)

Jesus Christ, you're right! I never really noted the link before.

But then, wasn't Cooke himself pretty popular with the mass-market? I mean he only had like a gazillion top 40 hits. I think my moms, who is like the squarest child of the 50's you'll ever meet, had a few of his 45's. Probably the most popular black solo artist of this time so I don't think his sound needed any whitening.

Anyway, the 'feeling that way' -> 'anytime' medley always does it for me. I love the fact that after Perry joined the group, at first they didn't allow him to sing lead on all the tunes - presumably to "soften the transition." Man, letting a talent like that rot on your bench reminds me of when Wayne Fontes used to take Barry Sanders out on 3rd and long.

SW is also one of the funniest Beavis & Butthead videos, right up there with Loverboy and Grim Reaper.

Or you could say he loud sang over the speakers onto the tape.

I have some Dave Matthews Band fans I'd like you to meet.

you might like this one too, aaron:

Say something nice about "Don't Stop Believiin'"

STYLIN'
http://www.perryville.freeservers.com/perryfest06/Steveperryfest06homepage.jpg

Journey rule and I don't have to be drunk to say so, but it helps. And you can back me in an alley and everything and threaten to cut my throat and I'll still tell you Journey rules. So forget it.

"i'll be alright without you"(or whatever it's really called) came on shuffle on the drive home yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

I don't know 'bout you folks but I'm off the the wonderland of You Tube.

"Don't Stop Believin":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip1zsUIosoA

this one is awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuX0c2M0KT0

this doesn't give me chills like "Feelin That Way", but it's pretty hot too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyzQl1msfnU

DUD, blech.

Everything that was wrong with the industry and whose only saving grace was that it somehow and in some manner begat punk rock.

Punk came before Journey ever had hits.

Journey rule and I don't have to be drunk to say so seconded.

Aynsley Dunbar of Journey wrote "Warning" which Black Sabbath covered on the most paradigm-changing album of all time so "Saxby D" needs to suck it

(and I have CDs by everyone from Crass to Butt Trumpet so whatever)

Journey were the opposite of everything punk stood for, but their music was better.

a very belated thanks to eman for my new desktop background

Aynsley Dunbar of Journey wrote "Warning" which Black Sabbath covered on the most paradigm-changing album of all time so "Saxby D" needs to suck it

Was Kevin Bacon involved?

That's Aynsly Dunbar?!? Pretty sweet trivia.

I think it's funny how Don't Stop Believing is simultaneously becoming a sort of modern day standard while remaining a camp classic. Maybe the song is classic but it's just buried with a funny band?

I do love Steve Perry's solo "Foolish Heart" and "Oh Sherrie."

How does one justify liking Open Arms? Excuse me while I bang my skull on bricks. There's no excuse for this. I'll burn in hell.

ARRRGH! GIRL CAN'T HELP IT!!!!!

Fuck I really love that song. I don't care if they burn me at the stake, I love "Girl Can't Help It".

I love Girl Can't Help It, too. Ditto I'll Be Alright (Without You), After The Fall, and Faithfully, among others.

And I'm only partially-ashamed to admit it.

JOURNEY PRIDE!!!!

I'll Be Alright (Without You) too...

Don't Stop Believing is simultaneously becoming a sort of modern day standard while remaining a camp classic. Maybe the song is classic but it's just buried with a funny band?

See, I really don't get the impression that Journey are regarded as kitsch among mainstream listeners, in this town at least.

The director of the Separate Ways video speaks

“We had maybe a week to shoot three videos – ‘Separate Ways’, ‘After the Fall’, and ‘Chain Reaction’,” Buckholtz remembered. “On ‘Separate Ways” there was a lot of ‘let’s try this,’ or ‘let’s try that,’ a lot of it shot on the fly. We mostly had to wing it, and back then, CBS Records only sent one person, so there was virtually no supervision.”
He said the band was open to all suggestions, but now viewed in hindsight, some were probably not so smart.

“They would do anything I told them,” Buckholtz said, “I became very close to Neal Schon, but Steve Perry was very disconnected from the band. I found out that Steve Perry grew up on a ranch, and so did I, so when I learned that, I walked by him and mentioned the name of this cattle medicine. He looked at me and said, ‘hey, did you grow up on a ranch?’ and I said, ‘yes!’ and he said ‘so did I!” After that, I found we’d really hit it off.”

According to Buckholtz, having an actress (local girl Margaret Olmstead) in the video perturbed Perry’s girlfriend at the time. As viewers can see, Perry never embraces Olmstead, forever remembered for her white leather jacket, new-wave hairstyle, and long-legged strut across the dock.

“Having a girl on the Separate Ways video was a problem,” Buckholtz remembered. “His girlfriend flew in. He was a very faithful person to her, didn’t run around on her, but she could not conceive of him not thinking of her in that context, when in fact, he was.”

The slow motion rock star moments edited together were designed for that song’s break, so “we shot everything with a wide angle lens, and the closer you get, the more exaggerated it is. I shot about 90 percent of that hand-held, too.”

When pressed on who’s idea it was to have Jonathan Cain play a keyboard affixed to a wall, Buckholtz sighed, “That was me.”

It's cute and heartwarming to go back to early noughties threads and see ILM wrestling with things like this.

Awwww.

http://www.fanasylum.com/steveperry/

who knew that Journey were the original h4X0r d00d5?

hear what I'm talking about Houston?

journey is classic and dud.

it's all in the footwork

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oawl9e-tFVM

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/arts/music/steve-perry-journey-traces-interview.html

Gonna see the current Journey on Sunday and looking forward to it a lot!

First of all, dud. Second of all, there's some insane line-up stuff going on with what remains of this band.

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/journeys-messy-feud-fueled-by-trademark-fight-old-contracts

In the meantime, seems like they replaced Smith and bassist Valory with Narada Michael Walden on drums and the return of (literal and figurative) journeyman Randy Jackson on bass!

Insane, but it feels pretty fitting for an enormously s***ty band that embodies corporate rock in every horrible way.

classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIMg6gjsCs8

Perry is a force of nature

WHEN UR LOST IN DEEP DESPAYA
U JUST ASK THE LONELY

When you’ve loved and you’ve lost the way Steve Perry has, you know what life’s about