MOGWAI - Classic or Dud?

yaay another boring british band who rip off superior American acts and we're all supposed to lap it up and say how interesting...

possibly the ultimate "if this lot came from Chicago instead of Glasgow no-one would give a shit about them" band

Just IMO

That is correct, esp. Scotch ones

Shouldn't be so hard on Stuart Braithwaite...

He has mellowed or is he still a self-regarding gobshite?

Lest we forget the cringeworthy Kappa outfits.

tortoise are super boring and people care about them. they have some pretty clear influences,but they don't really rip anyone off too hard.they've gone downhill since the rock action ep imo,but they're p good all in all.not that great live imo,but precious few bands are.

Saw Braithwaite in the crowd at ATP last weekend. He's still short and bald.

Loving the new soundtrack but it probably helps that I already loved the show ("Les Revenants")

Yeah the new record is really lovely. They still keep coming with this wonderful music. I'm hoping the Tv programme will come to the BBC.

Nobody will notice because they aren't good anymore.

was wondering what this soundtrack was as i watched the tv show. i ignored these for a while after rock action as it didn't seem like something i ever wanted to listen to again, but some amazing music in the last few years.

only heard "music for a forgotten future" via michael mayer's kompakt megaset, also an amazing tune.

lol i just noticed i posted about that upthread. ah well. there it is again and i hadn't posted about the returned yet, now on channel 4, uk folks.

MFAFF is the best thing they've done by quite a long way. Second might be the Like Herod Peel session, or the remix of Earth's Teeth of Lions Rule The Divine

I keep coming back to this remix of "Tracy" from the first record:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJSN5V72w7s

I saw them last night at a nice open-air special event on the riverfront here in Glasgow performing the Zidane: A 21st Century Portrait soundtrack live along to the film as part of a small series of dates around the Manchester International Film Festival.

While the Zidane soundtrack isn't my favourite work of theirs, both musically and because of my utter lack of caring for football, I always enjoy a Mogwai show and this was something a little different. The outdoor setting at the end of a glorious sunny summer Sunday was excellent, they played well, and we got a nice three-song encore, which was the highlight of the night for me personally.

Being outdoors the light was pretty nice and I was enjoying using my lovely new (second-hand) 135mm f/2.0 lens, so I got a whole bunch of photos that I'm really pleased with...

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5520/9340040013_45338115f6_z.jpg
Mogwai performing live to Zidane: A 21st Century Portrait by Crimson Glow Photography, on Flickr

What was in the encore, Krakow, can you say? I'm off to The Barbican to see them on Friday and I'm looking forward to it.

We got Helicon 1, Werewolf & Glasgow Megasnake (though I'm a little unsure of what the second song was).

Previous two nights got Secret Pint & Helicon 1 and CODY & Ex-Cowboy, so I hear.

Nice. Crossing my fingers for a slice of Fear Satan. As always tbh.

god i love 2 rights make 1 wrong

― mookieproof, Saturday, December 15, 2012 12:49 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't know which thread to revive but the CODY remaster is out next week. An hour of bonus material here:

http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/jul/14/mogwai-come-on-die-young-bonus-material-exclusive-stream

CODY is seminal now? When did that happen?

I haven't gone near CODY since I listened to it once in 1999 and pronounced it a crushing disappointment to whoever was listening (probably my cat).

Maybe it's the other seminal they mean? xpost

Perhaps that explains the color of Dominic's face?

Cum on the young - they predicted that whole pedo scandal.

They're doing a Reddit AMA on 22 July, FYI.

that sounds dirty now

Didn't the band at some point dismiss CODY?

I didn't know they did, specifically, no? I believe they prefer their later more fine-tuned and subtle material over the rougher earlier albums in general, though.

Rock Action was their best record. It was the record most like an actual band trying to make a record people would love with songs, themes, lyrics, melodies and ideas. It's a record I can still enjoy to this day, and it's the only Mogwai record that contains none of the elements they're actually known for (guitar freakouts, the dubious masculinity of their late "metal" period, soundtracks, boring drumming). Dave Fridmann on the mix? Must be a good thing then.

Some great lyrics on Rock Action: What would you do / If you saw spaceships over Glasgow / Would you feel that / Every aircraft, every camera / Was a wish that / Wasn't granted. (Not sure if that's how it really goes.)

Actually a lot of it sounds like the music for Minecraft now. Enduring legacy!

I agree that Rock Action is the best Mogwai album - it's very controlled and methodical in a way they unfortunately never really tried out again.

EP+6, tho not technically an album, is preferable to any of their full lengths.

That one's great too.

Hang on a minute. I think I'm risking doing a disservice to Mr Beast, which I'm listening to now for the first time since the days following its release. By 2006, the year this album came out, I was becoming a fucking anti-rock weirdo but, as always, I dutifully download whatever the newest Mogwai was at the time and listen to it once or twice. I remember giving this one a "hrmph, I guess that's sort of okay, why do they have to do all that guitar metal stuff."

Something I've learned at age 35 that I didn't know at 30 or 25 or 20 is that if someone's œuvre—not just music, btw—appears monotonous and repetitive to you as a young person, well, let's say that when you get old you will probably end up viewing slow, iterative improvement as more artistically rewarding than you used to. In fact, you may come to appreciate someone's career primarily based on its stylistic continuity and those same subtle adjustments made to a single set of musical building blocks.

Almost every building block on Mr Beast has a 1:1 parallel with something on Rock Action, but in every case it's a significant upgrade. Mogwai albums are like Apple's desktop operating system upgrades. Sometimes you're disappointed there's not really any new "features," but as a grownup you end up appreciating the bug fixes more than the features anyway.

Plus as a 35 year old I'm much, much more into sludgy metal guitar than I was ten years ago ;-)

congrats on doing your absolute damnedest to spin "mogwai's albums have sucked progressively harder since 2003" into a positive.

Actually doing my damnedest to spin "my life since 2003" into a positive. But also discovering a weird kind of Mogwai album bias among people of a similar age along the way. And actually I think Mogwai's doing just fine, thank you very much.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x28jny6_mogwai-full-concert-live-pitchfork-music-festival-paris_music

3CD compilation

https://www.musicglue.com/mogwai-1/products/central-belters-cd/

Huh. Hadn't heard about that at all!

haha, cracking name

(mogwai are from Glasgow and environs in Scotland's "central belt". "belter" is a thing which is of high quality)

That looks pretty good but the gulf in quality between the material on the first CD and the others is pretty big.

Surprised they left 'Like Herod' off though.

Music For A Forgotten Future, Like Herod (BBC versh), Fear Satan and Ex Cowboy = CD4

xp I've always used "belter" to describe an object or action that is good, e.g. "Brain Easton's recent goal against Aberdeen for St Johnstone was a belter!", or to describe a person who may otherwise be considered a bit of a radge, bam, walloper or haver.

your first definition is the one I was going for as well.

It's a great album title whichever definition you go with.

Brilliantly...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">HT: <a href="https://twitter.com/DulwichHamletFC";>@DulwichHamletFC</a> 1-0 <a href="https://twitter.com/bromleyfc";>@bromleyfc</a> Reece Johnson's belter after 4 mins the difference. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DHFC?src=hash";>#DHFC</a> <a href="https://t.co/00LvYmLQfQ";>pic.twitter.com/00LvYmLQfQ</a></p>— Forward The Hamlet (@ForwardHamlet) <a href="https://twitter.com/ForwardHamlet/status/656916486947213312";>October 21, 2015</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well, that didn't work. Not that it was an essential contribution.

Forward The Hamlet @ForwardHamlet
HT: @DulwichHamletFC 1-0 @bromleyfc

Reece Johnson's belter after 4 mins the difference.

#DHFC
8:34 PM - 21 Oct 2015

who is this compilation designed for though?

Who are any compilations designed for?

Music For A Forgotten Future, Like Herod (BBC versh), Fear Satan and Ex Cowboy = CD4

Fear Satan is on CD1.