oh tin machine we always loved you

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
confusion to the hataz with their knavish tricks

mark s, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

i have decided i love tin machine: help me prove the scoffing hipsters are mistaken

mark s, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

as opposed to the grass roots fans who bought the records in droves

Ben Williams, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

A local journalist referred to "the Tin Machine" in a review for the new Bowie record ("it's not groundbreaking tisk tisk") and I truthfully felt like thumping him the way pedantic fans scoff at those who say "the Buzzcocks" or "the Simple Minds." Feh. No, really.

Andy K, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

(andy i gt yr 102 beats that this morning hurrah!)

mark s, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

A public apology to mark s for being such a flake aboot sending it.

Andy K, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

What about that reshuffing members on the cover of the reissue?

cuba libre (nathalie), Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm not a hata but I'm still confused.

Sean, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

tin machine was always hip around my circle of friends growing up. that guitar player rips. i didnt realize it was uncool to like tin machine until my girlfriend hid the cd.

chaki, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

one of my roommates, who works full-time as a mime, is bowie's biggest fan. we've long agreed on bowie's greatness in any number of albums, but his unconditional love for bowie runs so far as to defend every bowie song/ incarnation/collaboration ever (incl the 80s albs). mention tin machine, though, and he immediately becomes despondent, his eyes welling up with tears. "he didn't mean it," he says. and that is the only defense he can give.

geeta, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

(of course that is the point where i larf non-stop)

geeta, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

I like Tin Machine ok, except for the guitar player. The first LP wasn't bad at all.

Sean, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm a huge Tin Machine apologist, if just for the very idea of Bowie trying to pull a Zelig with a Democraband.

First album: opening track is monster, "Under the God" has meaty punk- Zep riff, "Amazing" best song on the album, I think.

Second album: Not quite as good, but has some decent moments. Now defending the Hunt Sales tunes--THAT'S where the tricky part comes into play. But still I like both of 'em--even the trite one where he says he sings that he's so sorry over and over again.

Live album: Don't really play it (actually, I think I might have gotten rid of it), but I was at the Boston show. I remember Reeves Gabrels putting on a headband flashlight for "I Can't Read"...

Joe, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

All I can remember is my friend Brian doing a lip sync to "Under the God" in my high school drama class as a piece of drama -- he ended up pushing a desk over because he was acting upset and angry as part of his act and even ripped his shirt apart at the front.

It is still probably the funniest thing I have ever seen.

I could not stop larfing throughout the entire song and he was not pleased. So I don't know if that makes them classic or dud.

Nicole, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Sounds like it would make a better video than the actual thing.

In 1991, I saw a promo concert by them at LAX filmed for ABC (long story). It was actually a pretty good show!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

was that for that "rock" show they used to show at like 1 am? i think i saw that!

jess, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Yup. If you looked sorta close you would have caught me in the audience at one point. Sorta.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

They put Stephan Ielpi of the False Prophets in the "Under the God" video. So, obviously, classic.

Colin Meeder, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

I liked 'em, & never quite understood the extreme anti-TM reaction among Bowie-philes -- good to see I'm not their only apologist.

There's a local band here in my neck of the woods that SOUNDS quite a bit like Tin Machine. The guitarist worships Gabrels, and though I don't remember any actual TM songs in their set, Reeves-ian versions of The Pretty Things Have Gone To Hell and Scary Monsters have been known to pop up.

http://www.inner-kube.com/v2.0/main.htm

They are certainly only the first of the Tin Machine-influenced bands that will spring up, Velvets-like, in the Sales brothers' mighty wake.

briania, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

i have decided i love tin machine: help me prove the scoffing hipsters are mistaken

They were great backing Iggy on Lust For Life.

Vic Funk, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

Reeves Gabrels wasn't on Lust for Life, luckily.

Sean, Wednesday, 12 June 2002 00:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...
More Tin Machine love, please!!

Joe (Joe), Sunday, 6 February 2005 19:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

I think this was it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 6 February 2005 20:07 (8 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Die liebe ist nicht genug.

I was listening to their live version of "If There Is Something" from Oy Vey Baby today, and forgot just how much it burns.

Joe, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 20:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

Seriously, it is badass.

Joe, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 21:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

Defending the indefensible rarely was so difficult.

blunt, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 21:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

I had both of these records, got rid of them...but remember liking them. Particularly liked the lead cuts: "Heaven's In Here" and "Baby Universal."

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 21:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Heaven's in Here" (the studio version on the original album) is incredible. That jam at the end after Bowie screams "Heaven!", with Gabrels and Hunt Sales, smokes... I could listen to a million times.

I always imagine that song as the perfect trailer music if somebody would ever make a real Mission: Impossible-type movie with the quality of Casino Royale (a realistic one with a team full of ruthless bastards, rather than just a Tom Cruise-shining teeth showboat with stupid effects).

Joe, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 00:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

or I should say, a 'more realistic' one (relatively speaking)

Joe, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 00:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

Their version of Working Class Hero wasn't too bad, either, especially in light of recent events.

Jake Brown, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 01:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

Ugh, Reeves Gabriels.

Only thing I could ever stand him on was "Outside" where, according to legend, Eno passed out cards to all of the musicians involved, assigning them a role ("Spaced-out guitar player from a hip lounge on Mars") that they had to play during the sessions.

Consequently, Reeves Gabriels didn't play like Reeves Gabriels on that album, for the most part, and it was Bowie's best outing in years.

novaheat, Thursday, 21 June 2007 06:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

i have decided i love tin machine: help me prove the scoffing hipsters are mistaken
-- mark s, Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:00 AM (5 years ago)

Strawman, thy name is hipster

bobby bedelia, Thursday, 21 June 2007 06:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

the first album an dmost of the second one are perfectly fine, I don't get the hate. "goodbye mr ed" = easily one of bowie's best songs since the 70's

akm, Thursday, 21 June 2007 23:06 (5 years ago) Permalink

5 years pass...

bump
"I Can't Read" is a jam

the best Laid jams (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:30 (7 months ago) Permalink

that "pushing ahead" blog is really interesting on these tracks/time period. but sorry, this bloweth.

goole, Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:32 (7 months ago) Permalink

Today's track though is terrific.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:33 (7 months ago) Permalink


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.