Emeralds-Classic or Dud?

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You know, the droney Midwestern wizards. What do you guys think? Heard the new shit? Good stuff all around. I say...Classic! Yep, already classic.

NewBeefLover, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Too early to tell, methinks. I like their shit so far, though. Can't wait to see them in No Fun Fest.

brightscreamer, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

Solar Bridge is beautiful. On Hanson. These boys keep improving, not that the early shit isn't top-notch. What I'm sayin' is-I'm feeling their current trajectory.

NewBeefLover, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

Worlds better than some of their so-called counterparts.

NewBeefLover, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

SO CLASSICK

Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 00:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

tuff guys

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

anything like the Detroit Emeralds?

henry s, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 01:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

I enjoyed them very much on the Pain Jerk/Emeralds tour that passed this way a couple of weeks ago. A few more shots here: Pain Jerk/Emeralds/Muscletusk

krakow, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Not heard the newy yet but I completely love Solar Bridge, even if I couldn't point to anything specific about what they do that raises them above similar acts for me. Downloaded some live sets and found them rather hit and miss, but the good ones were lovely.

Very sad to have missed the recent UK tour, not least because support on some of the dates was from Birds of Delay, who I saw a year and a bit ago and thoroughly enjoyed (much more harmonically rich and blissed-out live than the records of theirs I've bought since, some of which are pretty harsh).

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 22:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

(birds of delay is a terrible name)

this new emeralds is really something, juzt hearing it for the first time now.

sonderangerbot, Monday, 16 February 2009 01:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

"What Happened" rules.

Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Monday, 16 February 2009 02:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

plus it's fun to imagine Fred Willard saying it

sonderangerbot, Monday, 16 February 2009 02:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

solar bridge and what happened are both good

sleep, Monday, 16 February 2009 07:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

What Happened is the first I've heard by them. I'd say "it's a gem" but that would a) be cheesy; b) not even come close to how awesome I think it is. Mesmerised by it right now, to be honest.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Monday, 16 February 2009 23:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

Solar Bridge > What Happened, but Wh is still nice

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 16 February 2009 23:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm going to see them open up for Throbbing Gristle in Chicago. Oh, and they're playing in a church.

Jealous?

brightscreamer, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 02:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yes, since you ask ;)

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 08:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

what happened and solar bridge are both very nice. what I like about these guys is that there are little melodic touches all over the place. pretty close to "new age" territory sometimes, but that don't bother me none.

Alan N, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 16:38 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm going to see them open up for Throbbing Gristle in Chicago. Oh, and they're playing in a church.

Jealous?

Shit, I didn't know they were gonna open! That night's gonna be great, can't wait!

Ivan, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 20:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Hey, y'all! I have two extra tickets for Saturday's show in Chicago...want to come with?

batmeh (brightscreamer), Thursday, 23 April 2009 03:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

BUMP

batmeh (brightscreamer), Thursday, 23 April 2009 12:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

anyone heard that new 2lp?

nerve_pylon, Thursday, 23 April 2009 15:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

no but I am looking forward to their merch table in Chicago

sleeve, Thursday, 23 April 2009 18:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

wish What Happened was on vinyl.

nerve_pylon, Thursday, 23 April 2009 18:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

Does no one want tickets to the show on Saturday? I'm not scalping them, guys. I'm gifting them.

batmeh (brightscreamer), Thursday, 23 April 2009 22:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

the new 2lp is great! how was the show?

nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 19:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

I finally bought What Happened last weekend. Jeez. This shit is straight up AMAZING. "Living Room" especially is gorgeous. I love the guitar loops that just get eventually eaten up by the synths. Solar Bridge and the 2LP are great too, but I think WH is their best.

jonathan - stl, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 04:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

A coworker of mine passed "What Happened" to me... it's really excellent. I keep reading about people seeing these guys play in basements & backyards. I'm hoping I can hear that for myself.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 17 June 2009 05:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

finally heard "alive in the sea of information". see people hear "drone" and think "boring" when they should be thinking "heavenly buzzsaw that opens the thousand gates of perception."

This part of the sentence is even dumber. (lukas), Sunday, 29 November 2009 21:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

I know there has been a bit of discussion in the rolling drone thread, but I thought I'd hit this thread because their new album, Does It Look Like I'm Here? is playing tonight through the hd 280s. Solid album. The longer track, "Genetic" is so good. I ate the best turkey sandwich from Whole Foods tonight too.

Barry Soetoro the marlboro man (van smack), Saturday, 15 May 2010 04:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

Kinda confused that they broke out of the tons of bands that sound exactly like them to become the most popular.

filthy dylan, Saturday, 15 May 2010 21:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah i mean that never happens. ever.

am0n, Saturday, 15 May 2010 22:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

please tell me about more contemporary bands that use analog synths like these dudes

xp

bug holocaust (sleeve), Saturday, 15 May 2010 23:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

completely forgot that i have a copy of the pain jerk/emeralds tour cd. i should play it. don't think i ever did. anyway, like i said on the other thread, the new one has really grown on me. the mego thing. also on my mego hit parade and simliar in some ways to the emeralds stuff is the new album by ONEOHTRIX POINT NEVER. one guy. never heard him before. starts out as straight up noise and then goes into ambient/mellow territory. i like it a lot. Daniel Lopatin. that's the guy with the unwieldy name.

scott seward, Saturday, 15 May 2010 23:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

please tell me about more contemporary bands that use analog synths like these dudes

Zombi

who totally rule btw

in which we apologize for sobering up (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 15 May 2010 23:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

Kinda confused that they broke out of the tons of bands that sound exactly like them to become the most popular.

I get where you're coming from but... their music really is v. approachable. esp that new mego disc. a handful of well-recorded, melodic, short, new age-y pop ambient songs. not that surprising that people are digging them more than most acts working a harder "drone" or "noise" angle. (admittedly zombie are neither of those things.)

The world’s most violent pizza delivery man (Alan N), Sunday, 16 May 2010 19:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's not just approachable -- I think Emeralds' music really has its very own sound. They may share techniques and inspirations with artists like Oneohtrix Point Never, Jonas Reinhardt, et al, but their music has a very specific quality that I don't get from anyone else. I wish I could put my finger on it; it has to do with the loops upon loops upon loops, the sense of many different parts, all spinning at different velocities.

pshrbrn, Sunday, 16 May 2010 19:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh yes please this is total KateBait.

And hey, I love me some Zombi but this is a different kind of headspace, less proggy more ambient drifty.

Using an Aural Exciter in an Orgone Accumulator (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 13:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

I ordered the new one. Dont suppose anyone has the s/t vinyl they could sell to me?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 14:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

There's a wibbly wubbly warped tapeloopness to this that reminds me of Cluster. The sounds are slippy slidey as well as shimmery.

Using an Aural Exciter in an Orgone Accumulator (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 14:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

I've always felt they remind me of Force Majuere era TD

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 14:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

Which is my fave TD

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 14:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

A bit, yes. I can see that. But I'm not sure that they have that kind of streamlined smoothness that TD have.

OK, I've just reached Genetic which is straight up TD territory with those big Minimalist Composer arpeggiators in the background and I'm in heaven.

Using an Aural Exciter in an Orgone Accumulator (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 14:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Genetic is awesome but just wait til the title track hits you in 2 tracks time

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

I'm going to be a slathering mess by that point if this album keeps up delivering the goodness like this...

Using an Aural Exciter in an Orgone Accumulator (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 14:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

This album just came out on emusic this week, fyi, for anyone who uses that site. I'm anxiously waiting for my June dls to come in.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 17:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

you all should check out Skyramps as well, if you haven't already. iirc it's McGuire and the Oneohtrix Point Never guy.

richie aprile (rockapads), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 19:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah that Skyramps record is awesome. I picked that up because I liked Oneohtrix "Rifts" and now I feel like I need to dig into the Emeralds stuff too ...

dmr, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 19:32 (2 years ago) Permalink

FWIW, I totally recommend buying the vinyl version of the Mego release. I listened to 320s of the album for a week or more, and felt like I really had a handle on the record. But when my mail-ordered wax finally came, it sounded almost like a different record. Ok, I'm exaggerating. But the space of it blew wide open.

pshrbrn, Wednesday, 26 May 2010 20:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah this is a band that is best heard in full fidelity.

bug holocaust (sleeve), Wednesday, 26 May 2010 21:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah, it's good but different: the sequencer/delay balancing act of the previous records is definitely tethered by the drum pulse

Anime Mann (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 16:41 (7 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Anymore consensus on the new album?

millmeister, Saturday, 3 November 2012 13:37 (6 months ago) Permalink

I really like it - I guess Steve Hauschildt's contribution is higher in the mix. It's closer to Tragedy and Geometry, albeit with Mark McGuire all over it. Not sure what the other guy really does TBH.

Treblekicker, Saturday, 3 November 2012 18:03 (6 months ago) Permalink

Ooh well if that's the case, maybe I'll track this down. I loved Tragedy & Geometry.

these albatrosses have no fear of man (La Lechera), Saturday, 3 November 2012 18:14 (6 months ago) Permalink

Not sure what the other guy really does TBH.

as far as i can tell, he's the sequencer dude. which on this album i would imagine means he did the drums

Anime Mann (diamonddave85), Saturday, 3 November 2012 19:06 (6 months ago) Permalink

John Elliot, the one record I have by his Outer Space project is excellent synth-driven stuff, no drum machines that I remember.

sleeve, Saturday, 3 November 2012 21:56 (6 months ago) Permalink

Enjoying the new Emeralds so far, the overlook onto Balearic cheese territory is kind of refreshing. There's a new Hauschildt solo album out on Kranky, haven't heard it yet though.

Well, ILE be damned! (seandalai), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 00:57 (6 months ago) Permalink

Had read a few tepid reviews of the new one but I'm actually totally smitten with it on my first few plays, feels a lot more direct and to the point than before. Title track is an absolute belter.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:26 (5 months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm not sure I understand all the lukewarm to cold receptions. It isn't as cohesive and solid as the last one, but I'm really intrigued in a few new directions they're pulling here.

Picked up the new Hauschildt today, can't wait to dig in to that.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 22:55 (5 months ago) Permalink

^ so beautiful. love the burbling synths on that song, then the guitar just kicks it over the edge at the halfway point

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:54 (5 months ago) Permalink

sort of a top gun vibe going on in some of these tunes, I've got F14s in the upper stratosphere swooping around in my head half the time this is playing

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 16:56 (5 months ago) Permalink

also, the acoustic guitar on the last song is very AR Kane to my ears, that would be a cool direction to take things next

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:00 (5 months ago) Permalink

I know there's alot that I still haven't heard, but I can't think of another band whose principals release consistently quality material that is the equal of the stuff they recorded as a group. To date I haven't heard anything I didn't like from any of them.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 17:26 (5 months ago) Permalink

I never really bothered to get into the first one but I love this.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:14 (5 months ago) Permalink

For me their retreat from austerity has made them a lot more interesting, though going by reviews this opinion isn't universal.

ILM Communication (seandalai), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:18 (5 months ago) Permalink

i wish it sounded fat and glistening like the last one

j., Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:25 (5 months ago) Permalink

All right, they're never going to make another "Alive In The Sea of Information" and that's ok.

hot slag (lukas), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 19:41 (5 months ago) Permalink

this sounds like 80s soundtrack music* -- i like it! also it pleases me that it was recorded in my hometown.

i haven't actively disliked any emeralds or emeralds-related product so far, i guess i would naturally like this too. the clear vinyl is pretty.

* i just got the tangerine dream soundtrack to three o'clock high and let me assure you -- this new emeralds record is A LOT better than that

passion it person (La Lechera), Sunday, 25 November 2012 15:25 (5 months ago) Permalink

So there's a new Mark McGuire EP, Surrogate Channels. It's (unsurprisingly?) more of the same but there's a bit of drum machine, and anyway who doesn't happily lap up more of the same from MMG?

"Controlled by Numbers" is a meditation on the numbers, dates, and symbols that have cycled around my life, and had a strange presence in the back of my mind. Music for unraveling, and re-alignment, beginning at dawn, and ending in the dead of night.
5, 13, 21, 29, 37, 45, 53, 7, 15, 3, 4, 5, 1, 8, 7, 7, 26

ILM Communication (seandalai), Thursday, 29 November 2012 20:03 (5 months ago) Permalink

this band is so cold to me. but i like this new record

black redhead (spazzmatazz), Friday, 30 November 2012 02:55 (5 months ago) Permalink

Yeah really loving this. The title track and Adrenochrome are sublime. One of the albums of the year.

LOL at the "Top Gun vibe". Very true.

kraudive, Saturday, 1 December 2012 15:01 (5 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Mark McGuire's left the band:

https://twitter.com/stevehauschildt/status/286878496100343808

Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 3 January 2013 17:04 (4 months ago) Permalink

dang

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (diamonddave85), Thursday, 3 January 2013 17:44 (4 months ago) Permalink

definitely did not see that coming

sleeve, Thursday, 3 January 2013 17:49 (4 months ago) Permalink

It's for the best. Their last record was awful. Great time for them to split.

van smack, Thursday, 3 January 2013 23:40 (4 months ago) Permalink

Disagree wrt the last Emeralds album, but I do have the feeling that maybe they had explored all the terrain they were going to.

the definite listicle (seandalai), Thursday, 3 January 2013 23:44 (4 months ago) Permalink

The last record was definitely not awful, just much less exploratory of new grounds. I'm kinda bummed by this because I usually liked what McGuire brought to the table best, though I do like Hauschildt's solo stuff.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 4 January 2013 00:53 (4 months ago) Permalink

I have only given a cursory listen to Just to feel Anything... It's good in the way that they have a pretty solid baseline of delivering quality material, but nothing grabbed me in the way that Does It Look Like I'm Here did-- which was an exceptionally high watermark as far as I'm concerned, so no surprise that anything going forward doesn't quite measure up.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 4 January 2013 17:57 (4 months ago) Permalink

Apparently there will be no going forward. Just saw on Twitter (retweeted by a friend of mine and big fan of the band) that Steve Hauschildt has left the band, effectively ending it.

From Twitter:
"After much thought, I too have decided to leave Emeralds for personal reasons. The band is now over and all tour dates are cancelled."

grandavis, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:04 (4 months ago) Permalink

they other guy must be really annoying huh

Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:08 (4 months ago) Permalink

Weird, tinymixtapes just posted this story with a headline very similar to my post, i.e. "effectively ending [the band]". It is of course the first thing that would come to mind, but rarely am I in the middle of breaking news, so to speak.

grandavis, Friday, 18 January 2013 17:30 (4 months ago) Permalink

Well you could just play any 3 solo joints zaireeka style & it would sound alot like an emeralds record, so no one should run out of new stuff from them.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:37 (4 months ago) Permalink

If Hauschildt keeps coming out with stuff like Tragedy & Geometry, you'll hear no complaints from me.

Clarke B., Friday, 18 January 2013 18:37 (4 months ago) Permalink

oh no

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 18 January 2013 18:40 (4 months ago) Permalink

dang

velvet undergrad (diamonddave85), Friday, 18 January 2013 19:23 (4 months ago) Permalink

considering the quality of the mcguire/hauschildt/elliott solo stuff i'm not totally broken up but i wish i'd seen them at least once.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 18 January 2013 19:29 (4 months ago) Permalink

yeah i was hoping to be able to see them too. i went to a show on the caribou/emeralds tour JUST to see them but despite showing up at door time, the venue had decided to start early so i was only able to catch the last 5 minutes of the set /:

velvet undergrad (diamonddave85), Friday, 18 January 2013 20:03 (4 months ago) Permalink

I passed on the Caribou show, which I was contemplating solely for the Emeralds set. Didn't realize that would be their only west coast appearance ever. Crap.

Thinspo Merkin Life (Spectrist), Friday, 18 January 2013 20:29 (4 months ago) Permalink

this is a bummer for sure. I wonder what the story is?

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Friday, 18 January 2013 20:45 (4 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

https://soundcloud.com/mark-mcguire/the-instinct-extended-12

stoked to see him on friday

eris bueller (lukas), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 17:12 (2 months ago) Permalink

seeing him tomorrow!

the late great, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 18:56 (2 months ago) Permalink

the instinct is the soloing into the sunset jam par excellence

ogmor, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 20:28 (2 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I like Steve Hauschildt's second solo album so much more than his first that it hardly even seems fair to compare the two.

my favorite is "Mixed Messages"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2cJBe3hf_c

a duiving caTCH, a stuolllen bayeeeess (jamescobo), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 20:24 (1 month ago) Permalink

I'm guessing this second great album isn't the one I just bought, Tragedy & Geometry? Gah.

kraudive, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 20:40 (1 month ago) Permalink

I've not even listened to it yet.

kraudive, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 20:40 (1 month ago) Permalink

Tragedy & Geometry is excellent, fear not.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 21:08 (1 month ago) Permalink

You know what is really great on Tragedy & Geometry? Music For A Moiré Pattern. That is just the best thing. I listened to that on the bus a couple of months back and was completely overcome and almost missed my stop. It was like the sound of the rain talking to itself, so beautiful and entrancing.

Favourite song on the last one though was Constant Reminders, a totally different sort of experience, but really sweet all the same.

Emeralds are supposedly playing the Field Day festival in London in the summer this year. Who the fuck is Emeralds these days?

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 23:00 (1 month ago) Permalink

I was sure they broke up, but yeah, they're still listed on the poster. Weird.

She Got the Shakes, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 23:18 (1 month ago) Permalink

maybe it's The Emeralds UK

Number None, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 23:35 (1 month ago) Permalink

They're not on the website Line Up section.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 4 April 2013 04:45 (1 month ago) Permalink


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