Papoose vs Saigon

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― some dude, Saturday, 10 January 2009 14:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

really it would be awesome if this got 0 votes

― some dude, Saturday, 10 January 2009 14:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

Strongly tempted to not vote myself.

― The boy with the Arab money (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Saturday, 10 January 2009 14:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

High point of Saigon's career: least impressive YouTube beatdown in history on Prodigy.
High point of Papoose career: having a stupid name

― The boy with the Arab money (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Saturday, 10 January 2009 14:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

important rap feud

― ice cr?m, Saturday, 10 January 2009 15:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

fuck yall i know ima come off like l-jag gettin hurt in the butt over dudes clowning blur vs muse or some ish but these are both dope rappers with 2-3 albums worth of better material than 90% of rappers out there doin it - i dont get really whats so lolarious about making the same joke over + over just cuz saigon's trey songz joint flopped and pap doesnt always rap on beat lol

2 classics

papoose & prodigy - the drama

saigon - out there

― and what, Saturday, 10 January 2009 15:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

a few weeks ago I probably would've laid off Saigon because yeah making fun of his album delays is getting kinda old...but he just announced that he's going to "single-handedly reinvent hip-hop" right after dropping an AutoTune single.

― some dude, Saturday, 10 January 2009 16:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

both good rappers. but both dont have many great/memorable songs. saigon used to seem like a 50/krs hybrid to me and i liked that first single just blaze produced from the album but these guys just release way too much. and the hype spewing out from papooses mouth in every interview is a bit silly at this point. good freestyle over criminology tho.

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 10 January 2009 16:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

again who gives 2 shits about saigons wack radio moves you could do a triple album of certified dope saigon trax but yall waste time talkin shit and trading plies youtubes fukk that

― and what, Saturday, 10 January 2009 18:40 (4 years ago) Permalink

of course you know i like both these corny ass dude a whole bunch. but overall i think saigon is a better, more on point rapper than papoose...like i really dug some of the pap mixtape stuff in yeah about 2004, but shit Saigon's first 12 inch alone makes him a classic in my book, that shit is way old by now and everything but yeah he's nice IMO.

― ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 10 January 2009 23:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

saigon

― you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 23:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

i've never even heard saigon because i hate papoose so much

― FUTURE HOOS: stronger better faster hooser (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 10 January 2009 23:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

so i voted saigon

― FUTURE HOOS: stronger better faster hooser (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 10 January 2009 23:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

haha

― you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 23:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

i like tracks by both of them & theres a papoose mixtape ive played out but i its also perfectly fine to clown these dudes for hyping themselves into nothingness and not dropping actual records

― xhuxk d (deej), Saturday, 10 January 2009 23:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

which did less to boost a career? saigon appearing reoccurring role on entourage or papoose marrying remy ma?

― you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 10 January 2009 23:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah i think at this point they'd be a little humble or cynical

― you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 11 January 2009 00:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

a rapper engaging in hyperbole about his own skills and/or importance in the world of hip hop? my stars!

― ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Sunday, 11 January 2009 00:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

next thing you know they'll be flaunting their newfound cash in a hopelessly tacky way!

― ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Sunday, 11 January 2009 00:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

and that being funny when it's wrong? my stars!

― you down with challo.p.p.? (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 11 January 2009 00:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

― System, Sunday, 11 January 2009 00:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

i dunno saigon can flat out rhyme IMO, and if i ever comes out with all the just blaze beats i will still be excited about it

― ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Sunday, 11 January 2009 00:02 (4 years ago) Permalink

papoose i've cooled on since his early stuff cuz he actually seemed to go backwards as a rapper IMO, like his flow managed to get sloppier if that was possible

― ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Sunday, 11 January 2009 00:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

I got amped about Papoose when I heard his verse on "Touch It" before I realized he recycled it 1000000x

― FUTURE HOOS: stronger better faster hooser (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 11 January 2009 00:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah on that it was cool how he divided it in two section a regular speed then a double speed flow

― ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Sunday, 11 January 2009 00:15 (4 years ago) Permalink

I like the Saigon I've heard. Papoose sounds like he's constantly grasping at straws.

― Et tu, Crut? (The Reverend), Sunday, 11 January 2009 00:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think my problem w/ papoose is the way hes rapping sounds rugged as fuck but lyrically hes so hit or miss that saying certain shit in an especially rugged way does not necessarily mean its going to actually be rugged

― xhuxk d (deej), Sunday, 11 January 2009 00:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

― System, Monday, 12 January 2009 00:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

i think my problem w/ papoose is the way hes rapping sounds rugged as fuck but lyrically hes so hit or miss that saying certain shit in an especially rugged way does not necessarily mean its going to actually be rugged

― xhuxk d (deej), Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:21 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

this is basically otm

― ie: BANGING (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 12 January 2009 01:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

http://artofrhyme.com/newjoints/newjoints.php

why is budden goin at saigon

― and what, Friday, 16 January 2009 04:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

i don't even know, i tried to search for info on that and all i found was dudes talking about how fab fucked budden's chick.

― some dude, Friday, 16 January 2009 04:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

also srs question ethan -- do you think that saigon and/or papoose are the best or among the best semi-mainstream NYC rappers to have emerged in their era (which let's say is '04 to present, post-50, etc.)? i'm not even sure who i'd say, but i feel like it would have to be someone other than those guys.

― some dude, Friday, 16 January 2009 04:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

budden builds blogging buzz with beef

― xhuxk d (deej), Friday, 16 January 2009 04:25 (4 years ago) Permalink

lol york

― xhuxk d (deej), Friday, 16 January 2009 04:26 (4 years ago) Permalink

Budden is really the saddest motherfucker in rap, finally left Def Jam and still gets his pushed back constantly, makes club singles that sound just like the shit he was doing in '03, mopes around with a "coulda been a contender" frown all the time, has lots of loyal internet stans but can't even get Clipse-level media fawning

― some dude, Friday, 16 January 2009 04:30 (4 years ago) Permalink

Dude's IRL last name is Mackie and he decided to rap as "Papoose"

― i'm not a ★, somebody lied (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

mackie is a worse name than papoose

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

papoose is really one of the worst rappers ever

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

i got a toaster like that thing you put bread in

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

'mackie papoose' great everyones happy

― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

mackie is a worse name than papoose

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:27 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

like BIG MACK or something man idunoo

― i'm not a ★, somebody lied (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, naming yourself after a hamburger would be a great look

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

What's beef?

― i'm not a ★, somebody lied (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

mackie papoose!

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

i can't believe i actually bumped a papoose mixtape in my car for like 2 months straight when he first came out

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

RAPPERS BE TRYIN TO GET IN WHERE THEY FIT IN LIKE “TETRIS”/
THATS WHY I LEAVE THEY FAMILY “MORNING” LIKE “BREAKFAST”/
THEY SEE OTHER CATS DO IT AND THEN THEY TRY AND FOLLOW/
THATS WHY I LEAVE THEY FAMILY “MOURNING” LIKE “ALONZO”/

RAPPERS BE TRYIN TO GET IN WHERE THEY FIT IN LIKE “TETRIS”/
THATS WHY I LEAVE THEY FAMILY “MORNING” LIKE “BREAKFAST”/
THEY SEE OTHER CATS DO IT AND THEN THEY TRY AND FOLLOW/
THATS WHY I LEAVE THEY FAMILY “MOURNING” LIKE “ALONZO”/

RAPPERS BE TRYIN TO GET IN WHERE THEY FIT IN LIKE “TETRIS”/
THATS WHY I LEAVE THEY FAMILY “MORNING” LIKE “BREAKFAST”/
THEY SEE OTHER CATS DO IT AND THEN THEY TRY AND FOLLOW/
THATS WHY I LEAVE THEY FAMILY “MOURNING” LIKE “ALONZO”/

RAPPERS BE TRYIN TO GET IN WHERE THEY FIT IN LIKE “TETRIS”/
THATS WHY I LEAVE THEY FAMILY “MORNING” LIKE “BREAKFAST”/
THEY SEE OTHER CATS DO IT AND THEN THEY TRY AND FOLLOW/
THATS WHY I LEAVE THEY FAMILY “MOURNING” LIKE “ALONZO”/

RAPPERS BE TRYIN TO GET IN WHERE THEY FIT IN LIKE “TETRIS”/
THATS WHY I LEAVE THEY FAMILY “MORNING” LIKE “BREAKFAST”/
THEY SEE OTHER CATS DO IT AND THEN THEY TRY AND FOLLOW/
THATS WHY I LEAVE THEY FAMILY “MOURNING” LIKE “ALONZO”/

― i'm not a ★, somebody lied (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

THATS WHY I LEAVE THEY FAMILY “MOURNING” LIKE “ALONZO”/

gucci actually used this line, but it was after a string of puns on "heat" so it was pretty dope

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

the breakfast thing is unreal tho

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

i wish that papoose tumblr had never stopped updating

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

well yeah if GUCCI said it it's pretty dope

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

XD

― i'm not a ★, somebody lied (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

stop living in denial/ the nile is a river in Egypt

― some dude, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 18:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

a lot of rappers have used the alonzo mourning pun

― sorry for party blogging (D-40), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 19:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah but i bet papoose is the only one who used it immediately after a breakfast/morning pun

― some dude, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 19:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

timely news from our friends at Forbez DVD:

(Video) Papoose Says He Is The KING OF NY! No One Else! {Youtube is Down So You Can Use This]

― some dude, Thursday, 29 September 2011 21:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

a public service, really

― yung huma (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 29 September 2011 21:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

I was kind of wondering why all these rap blogs were covering this shocking story "Rapper brags."

― crutbeef (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 29 September 2011 22:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

i like him bringing back "let knowledge be born"

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 September 2011 22:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

"who broke down all 27 letters of the alphabet?"

― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 September 2011 22:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

He got bureaus on his fingers, y'all.

― Ford Cumlord (The Reverend), Friday, 30 September 2011 01:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

(Video) Papoose Responds To Red Cafe Saying He's Not The King Of New York

― nəverDirty (some dude), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 22:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

move over, tyga

http://www.whatifeelishot.com/2012/08/papoose-gets-five-boroughs-of-new-york.html

― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 23:05 (9 months ago) Permalink

shouldn't he have tattooed that on his fingers?

― some dude, Wednesday, 8 August 2012 23:09 (9 months ago) Permalink

Also has Brooklyn tatted on that finger, he is from Brooklyn also and the index/trigger finger is the main finger so Brooklyn is his main place to be

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― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 27 March 2013 03:38 (1 month ago) Permalink

lol rap genius has "I GOT STATEN ISLAND ON MY PINKY QUEENS ON MY DUMB DUDE" instead of "thumb"

― Every Album Released In The 1970s Gets A Cookie (some dude), Wednesday, 27 March 2013 04:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

ErykahBadoula ‏@fatbellybella 5h
This papoose song Cure.
I sang those vocals 10 years ago. That's 2 babies ago.Sheeeit.
So mcs just throwing out old material- no paperwork..

― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Thursday, 28 March 2013 01:33 (1 month ago) Permalink

after watching this i kinda get why it took dude eight years to put out an album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnPvcu5uX4k

― nose, Thursday, 28 March 2013 17:51 (1 month ago) Permalink

for clarification that's a new hot97 interview where he reveals himself to have the most stereotypical ny rapper mindset ever

not sure how to post embeddeds so yeah

― nose, Thursday, 28 March 2013 17:58 (1 month ago) Permalink

jesus what a fuckin' idiot

― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:06 (1 month ago) Permalink

"there's no such thing as an opinion"

― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:08 (1 month ago) Permalink

tbf a lot of the stereotypes about latter day ny rappers are directly based on papoose

― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:09 (1 month ago) Permalink

man seriously that was the most aggravating interview i've ever seen

― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:14 (1 month ago) Permalink

mild stanning for papoose is the single most embarassing of the 20,000 embarrassing opinions i've posted on ILX

― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:15 (1 month ago) Permalink

if you stanned for papoose, you'll fall for anything

― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:16 (1 month ago) Permalink

no shit

― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 March 2013 19:24 (1 month ago) Permalink

holy shit this interview is unbelievable

― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Friday, 29 March 2013 05:31 (1 month ago) Permalink

papoose saying "i'm into extreme lyricists" is so terrifying, it sounds incredibly fetishistic

― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Friday, 29 March 2013 05:37 (1 month ago) Permalink

i like how he acts offended that some people pronounce "nacirema" with a hard C like, y'know, the hard C in "american"

― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Friday, 29 March 2013 05:41 (1 month ago) Permalink

"who got more haters than me?" ::sips from juicebox::

― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Friday, 29 March 2013 05:43 (1 month ago) Permalink

papoose saying "i'm into extreme lyricists" would be like jeffery dahmer saying "i'm into extreme chefs"

― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Friday, 29 March 2013 05:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

this interview is like an intervention, they have 3 interviewers who are all like trying to make papoose admit his flaws

― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Friday, 29 March 2013 05:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

now cipha sounds mentions he's a 5 percenter and papoose goes "no, he's a jew"

― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Friday, 29 March 2013 05:47 (1 month ago) Permalink

i like how you can tell they were trying not to hurt his feelings cuz no one was like "well about this flaw: you've never had a hit single and your album was pushed back SEVEN YEARS"

― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Friday, 29 March 2013 05:47 (1 month ago) Permalink

someone should have been like "dude you don't even have the top wikipedia entry for 'papoose' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papoose";

― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Friday, 29 March 2013 05:48 (1 month ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papoose

― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Friday, 29 March 2013 05:48 (1 month ago) Permalink

holy shit this interview is unbelievable

― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Friday, March 29, 2013 1:31 AM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― Diddy-Drugs A. Money (some dude), Friday, 29 March 2013 05:49 (1 month ago) Permalink

Amazing interview, so awkward.

― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Friday, 29 March 2013 05:53 (1 month ago) Permalink

great hat, too

― staten island on my pinky, queens on my (some dude), Friday, 29 March 2013 06:06 (1 month ago) Permalink

Pointless side note: I work for F3nd3r guitars and we own Tac0ma guitars and they make a mini guitar called the Papoose. It's pretty much the one instrument they are known for making:
http://www.elderly.com/new_instruments/items/PAPOOSE.htm
Every time I see rappers name i think of this little dinky guitar.

― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Friday, 29 March 2013 06:12 (1 month ago) Permalink

man i gotta get one those. "you gotta come to the show, man, papoose is gonna be there!"

― staten island on my pinky, queens on my (some dude), Friday, 29 March 2013 06:13 (1 month ago) Permalink

Ha. He should def use one in his live shows

― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Friday, 29 March 2013 06:16 (1 month ago) Permalink

yo dawg we heard you like papooses so we got papoose to play a papoose while riding in a giant papoose

― staten island on my pinky, queens on my (some dude), Friday, 29 March 2013 06:28 (1 month ago) Permalink

otm

― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Friday, 29 March 2013 06:34 (1 month ago) Permalink

Who was the guy w beard sitting next to papoose? He seemed to really genuinely be trying to talk sense to him in a way that was kinda endearing, felt frustrated for him

― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 March 2013 14:02 (1 month ago) Permalink

Ebro

― staten island on my pinky, queens on my (some dude), Friday, 29 March 2013 14:15 (1 month ago) Permalink

papoose could play a papoose while ebro uses an ebow

― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 29 March 2013 14:24 (1 month ago) Permalink

when i see myself a few years ago defending stuff like this i'm really glad i came to the realization that i just personally prefer old/new/90s/early 00s NYC type stuff and but that era is now gone and won't come back and it's ok if i just kinda leave rap alone if it's not grabbing me instead of hopelessly stanning for dudes that are pale imitations of the thing that i liked when it was happening and vital, like it's not my job to follow rap if it's not really fresh to me

― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 March 2013 15:43 (1 month ago) Permalink