rolling pop in 2009 thread

I wanted to create a pop thread for 2009 that would cover pop music from everywhere, and not just the stuff lucky enough to hit the charts. i have less and less faith in PopJustice every time i read it so i am depending on the good people of ILM to steer me to some good stuff in 2009.

so what's happening this year? what should I be eagerly anticipating?

I'm kind of hoping to do that in Rolling UK Pop/Chart/"Few people would dispute that Elbow have given us the album of the year" Thread 2009 tbh - I don't want it to just be the same old shit it winds up being every year, though that's what'll happen.

As for what's happening... don't actually know, but I'm gonna start looking about ASAP.

looking forward to Shock Value 2, that's about it.

yeah last year there was a US charts thread with pop and a UK charts thread with pop, but I'd like to have both of the pop elements, including stuff not related to charts in here. ILX threads have a way of working themselves out...we'll see...

okay, here's one i am definitely looking forward to:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3062/kcmylifecomp25b15d2ja1.jpg

not really sure what to think about the single art

that's so ridiculously photoshopped she doesn't even look human

i'm post-katy perry and i like it

will be keeping an eye on this thread, though not if it turns into the repository for popjustice-style pop (love peter but really his taste is like an anti-litmus test for me). k clarkson is a good start, had forgotten about her entire existence but her last album was underrated.

I think we'll all do better if we just close the body bag on Popjustice and just move on.

"just dance" is such a banger

the lyrics are so great too - lost phone, can't remember the name of the club and it's not even that great - she's forgetting everything via dancing but the song doesn't throw it in your face

i haven't looked up the credits yet but there is no way that akon didn't write that o donnis verse - the cadence is exactly like akon writes

Yeah, took me several times hearing it to realize it wasn't Akon. I kinda hate that song, but w/e, this isn't really my thread.

i feel like i've repped this remix in every single thread but the hccr's bambossa rmx of Just Dance is great:

i think Akon actually is singing backup on that song, but yeah it sounds like he also wrote that weird-looking dude's voice. wtf is this song, it got to #2 on the Hot 100? i've heard it like 3 times.

lady gaga needs to fuck right off post-haste

i am grateful for the 'Just Dance' acapella i found on slsk. sounds great over the Kris Menace remix of Moby's 'Ooh Yeah'.

Didn't realize these guys were still around!

they were a pretty solid singles band for a while there but wooooooow that new one is awful...i'm sure you couldn't find an embeddable version of the actual music video but really worth seeking out to see how bad it is

that song's pretty good imo. it's goofy as hell but i like when the crowd comes in on the bridge

I've heard it three times this week, and I haven't even been in the car that much.

hmm you think? i haven't heard it enough to remember more than the chorus but i really hate that chorus.

But not as bad as Lady Gaga's EIGHT plays

The chorus works well blaring in a car, esp. when the crowd kicks in

are you saying...that all you hear is...radio gaga?

xp

haha, yes, we have two pop stations here, and i've heard both stations playing it at the same time TWICE this week.

the radio down here has started to play a "just dance" remix with kardinal offishal. his verse is awesome. i always kind of liked that dude but i was pretty turned off by his akon single

gaga is inescapable here too - every station is playing her except the hardcore rap/r&b one

re the rejects song. i don't think it's their best song by any means but i like it cuz of its goofiness. im not usually a proponent of championing a song cuz it's "fun, man!" but it really is a fun song, from the "gives you hell" instead of "give you hell" part to the stadium singing part to the weird for the rejects instrumentation. im not buying it form itunes any time soon but i like it

oh, btw jordan, this week, i heard our dude say, "That was Secondhand-uh Ser-EN-ADE, keep it hear locked, we gott Plain White TEEZ and Nickelback. Coldplay kicks it off after tha break"

I'm going to call in tonight and request "Put On."

i think part of my problem is that i don't even understand the phrase "when you see my face I hope it gives you hell" enough to process it as a chorus that repeats over and over and over

haha i hope he cried during the break after saying that

the hip-hop/r&b station i listen to actually played "poker face," which was even weirder.

kelly clarkson song out now

phew, def. not katy perry

ok, fine, maybe a little katy perry, but kelly's delivery is really great. shame about the song--nice, but not blowing me away on third listen

it's solid enough but not that distinct or BIG. I should wait until i can listen to it at high volume, though.

lazy zing-- my life doesn't suck without this song

it's really pedestrian - im pretty sure it's a max martin joint so im sure it will get better as it gets drilled into our heads

ok, it is a little bit 'Pink leftover.'

they said that on idolator too - it's kind of insulting to pink imo cuz her songs are so full of emotion and life. that sometimes makes her shit really cloying and unlistenable i think but this clarkson song is so flat

idolator? whatever! i get my idol news from rickey.org! lol

dude's kind of a creep it seems like

oh boy, look back at sanjaya's season

link

everything on the first page is from 2008 - im pretty sure sanjaya doesn't even think that he deserves 'media' coverage in 2008

I love the Lily Allen song ("The Fear") and it's really only made better by the fact that I wasn't expecting another good track from her ever.

All-American Rejects doing a version of Womanizer that is, IMHO, not half the song that Britney sings:
http://new.music.yahoo.com/videos/--205785935

what does their lead singer have against blinking?

so, this tweenpop girl group that t.i. and lil' wayne's daughters have formed...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a2DDxIaQfE

(full song on their myspace)

adorable!

My name is Reginae but you can call me Baby Carter
They love me and they hate me cuz I'm Weezy F's daughter
Yeah, I'm a brat and I think it's my world
And I'm stuntin' like my daddy cuz I'm daddy's little girl
When I walk up in the spot - upgrades the room
And if you standin' next to me - I will upgrade you too
My mama keep me flawless and my daddy keep me paid
They know I get lawless when I don't get my way

TI's stepdaughter is a member as well...I kinda love them, I hope they release a single

QUIZ SPOILER ALERT

22/40 on jaymc's 00s quiz. Must admit I got one of them for free, when T.I. popped up while I tried to type Timbaland... :)

1 1 JAY-Z EMPIRE STATE OF MIND (FEAT.
2 2 LADY GAGA BAD ROMANCE
5 3 KE$HA TIK TOK
3 4 OWL CITY FIREFLIES
6 5 IYAZ REPLAY
4 6 DERULO*JASON WHATCHA SAY
12 7 BLACK EYED PEAS INVASION OF MEET ME HALFWAY
7 8 GUETTA*DAVID FEAT. AKON SEXY b***h EP 1
10 9 SEAN*JAY DOWN
9 10 BRITNEY SPEARS 3
8 11 LADY GAGA PAPARAZZI (REMIXES)
11 12 MILEY CYRUS PARTY IN THE U.S.A.
13 13 BEYONCE SWEET DREAMS
16 14 KELLY CLARKSON ALREADY GONE
18 15 BLACK EYED PEAS INVASION OF I GOTTA FEELING
17 16 DRAKE FEATURING KAN FOREVER
14 17 LADY ANTEBELLUM NEED YOU NOW
15 18 TAYLOR SWIFT YOU BELONG WITH ME
80 19 RIHANNA FEATURING J HARD
22 20 CHRIS BROWN FEATURI I CAN TRANSFORM YA
21 21 KINGS OF LEON USE SOMEBODY
19 22 RIHANNA RUSSIAN ROULETTE
20 23 JAY-Z RUN THIS TOWN/D.O.A
23 24 CARRIE UNDERWOOD COWBOY CASANOVA
30 25 JAY SEAN FEATURING DO YOU REMEMBER
24 26 JUSTIN BIEBER ONE TIME
26 27 TAYLOR SWIFT FIFTEEN
27 28 CASCADA EVACUATE THE DANCEFLOOR
61 29 SHAKIRA FEATURING L GIVE IT UP TO ME
-- 30 LADY GAGA FEATURING TELEPHONE
32 31 BIRDMAN FEATURING L MONEY TO BLOW
28 32 COLBIE CAILLAT FALLIN' FOR YOU
40 33 BOYS LIKE GIRLS FEA TWO IS BETTER THAN ONE
29 34 50 CENT FEATURING N BABY BY ME
34 35 LUKE BRYAN DO I
-- 36 YOUNG MONEY FEATURI BEDROCK
35 37 JESSE MCCARTNEY FEA BODY LANGUAGE
36 38 USHER PAPERS
39 39 REBA CONSIDER ME GONE
44 40 NEW BOYZ TIE ME DOWN - EP
65 41 SHAKIRA SHE WOLF
58 42 ALICIA KEYS TRY SLEEPING WITH A BROKEN HEA
33 43 ZAC BROWN BAND TOES
42 44 MIRANDA LAMBERT WHITE LIAR
51 45 SNOOP DOGG FEATURIN GANGSTA LUV
45 46 TRAIN HEY, SOUL SISTER
41 47 KRIS ALLEN LIVE LIKE WE'RE DYING
48 48 SHINEDOWN IF YOU ONLY KNEW
37 49 KENNY CHESNEY WITH I'M ALIVE
38 50 CAREY*MARIAH OBSESSED

INTERESTING MOVES & DEBUTS
59 52 UNCLE KRACKER SMILE
-- 61 ADAM LAMBERT FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT
-- 62 SUSAN BOYLE I DREAMED A DREAM
-- 65 BEYONCE VIDEO PHONE/I AM SASHA FIERCE
-- 66 GLEE CAST FEATURING TRUE COLORS
-- 67 GLEE CAST FEATURING IMAGINE
-- 68 CHRIS BROWN CRAWL
-- 69 JUSTIN BIEBER ONE LESS LONELY GIRL
86 74 NICKELBACK NEVER GONNA BE ALONE
88 75 MELANIE FIONA IT KILLS ME
-- 76 TIMBALAND FEATURING MORNING AFTER DARK
-- 90 BIRDMAN FEATURING D 4 MY TOWN (PLAY BALL)
-- 94 LADY GAGA FEATURING SPEECHLESS
-- 95 FRANCESCA BATTISTEL IT'S YOUR LIFE
-- 98 SUSAN BOYLE WILD HORSES
-- 99 TRACE ADKINS ALL I ASK FOR ANYMORE
-- 100 BILLY CURRINGTON THAT'S HOW COUNTRY BOYS ROLL

BUBBLING UNDER
-- 3 DAUGHTRY LIFE AFTER YOU
-- 5 SHAKIRA DID IT AGAIN (LO HECHO ESTA HE
13 7 PITBULL FEATURING A SHUT IT DOWN
-- 10 RIHANNA WAIT YOUR TURN
-- 12 LADY GAGA MONSTER
24 16 THE SCRIPT BREAKEVEN
-- 18 LIFEHOUSE HALFWAY GONE
-- 20 LYKKE LI POSSIBILITY
-- 21 GLEE CAST PAPA DON'T PREACH
-- 22 ADAM LAMBERT WHATAYA WANT FROM ME

R&B 100
2 1 USHER PAPERS
3 2 TREY SONGZ FEATURIN I INVENTED SEX
1 3 JAY-Z EMPIRE STATE OF MIND (FEAT.
5 4 BIRDMAN FEATURING L MONEY TO BLOW
4 5 MAXWELL BAD HABITS
9 7 50 CENT FEATURING N BABY BY ME
12 8 MELANIE FIONA IT KILLS ME
11 11 CHRIS BROWN FEATURI I CAN TRANSFORM YA
17 16 RIHANNA FEATURING J HARD
21 17 ALICIA KEYS DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING
19 18 WHITNEY HOUSTON MILLION DOLLAR BILL
36 23 YOUNG MONEY FEATURI BEDROCK
29 32 ALICIA KEYS TRY SLEEPING WITH A BROKEN HEA
50 35 LUDACRIS HOW LOW
39 39 MARY J. BLIGE I AM
52 41 BEYONCE VIDEO PHONE/I AM SASHA FIERCE
55 57 BEYONCE SWEET DREAMS
-- 62 ANGIE STONE I AIN'T HEARIN' U
96 73 MAXWELL FISTFUL OF TEARS
-- 77 ALICIA KEYS EMPIRE STATE OF MIND (PART II)
69 83 CHRIS BROWN CRAWL
89 86 MARIAH CAREY H.A.T.E.U.
-- 92 USHER FEATURING PLI HEY DADDY (DADDY'S HOME)

5 3 KE$HA TIK TOK
3 4 OWL CITY FIREFLIES
6 5 IYAZ REPLAY
4 6 DERULO*JASON WHATCHA SAY

i like how a huge chunk of the top 10 would have just looked like total gibberish 3 months ago...still does, actually

I find it sort of hilarious how big electrohouse seems to be getting in the US.

Between Ke$ha and David Guetta and La Gaga, its as big as it was in Europe in 07.

Love that Ke$ha song BTW, and I don't know why.

i don't know why either

I think it may be the incredibly snotty way she says "brushed my teeth with a bottle of Jack".

Maybe its that I've been to too many house parties that are exactly like that song.

has anyone else heard that Justin Bieber (sp) song One Time? I assumed this 10 year old lesbian looking kid was only getting play on Radio Disney or whatever but I finally looked him up on Youtube and I've been hearing that song for months. Pretty great song, reminds me of Jojo.

it's corny as hell but it's not a bad tune at all imo (dream stan, lol)

with the year done and dusted, I think we can conclude that Girls' Generation's "Gee" is the best pop single released in the past 12 months. actually, this was clear the moment it was released

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ

Adding to that, this is my favorite big soft ballad of the year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6Bg-zxWCII

Slightly obsessed with it. I even like the concept of the lyrics (once translated) -- the lyrics themselves are perhaps nothing new, but the background story makes the meeting between these two extra sweetly sentimental. One Year Later, now that's a good song title.

the big story from Copenhagen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHSITvHRVzQ

thats an old-ass song -- pretty sure it came out last year

maybe earlier. it sounds like a bit of "she cant love you"

you're right - 2 years old. it's being released for the first time in the UK in January tho (the Robyn factor, sort of).

my point was that keri hilson isnt on lady gaga's level, as an example

― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Sunday, December 20, 2009 1:31 PM Bookmark

i dunno, obv keri isn't nearly as good of a pop star-qua as gaga, but please do tell me when gaga does a song nearly as good as "turnin' me on"

― dyao mak'er (The Reverend), Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:40 PM (1 minute ago)

"bad romance" > "turnin me on"

tooootallly

yeah agreed -- but that wasnt even my point, im just talking about in terms of pure popularity, gaga's a superstar

whatever dudes. top ten single of the year vs mediocrity

I mean, it's cool to like lady gaga now and all, but lets not kid ourselves

i guess you'd get more sympathy if you said hilson was a better artist. her shit is consistently decent-to-good; gaga's is either awful or amazing, & imo "bad romance" is a higher high than "turnin me on" (which i like)

i dont think my point had anything to do w/ personal preference. gaga is clearly a 'bigger deal' in pop culture, both artists have had some great songs & forks lumping them in w/ jay sean & flo rida was what i was disagreeing with -- that group of artists was on some apples to oranges to bananas to orangutans shit

I don't think she's generally a very good artist, though. I guess most of her songs are at least decent in isolation (except "Knocks You Down", fuck that song imo), but they all feel so disconnected from each other that it feels like there's no larger point to her. Since her personality is basically completely different on any given song, it all adds up to a personality as indiscernable as if she didn't display any personality anywhere. I've used this phrase elsewhere to describe her, but she's chameleonic to a fault. That said, "Turnin' Me On" just works completely on its own terms.

Lady Gaga, on the other hand, has a consistent persona, and thus seems much easier to latch onto as person. This is a very important thing to superstardom, that fans be able to discern you against your competition and have a set of expectations that can be confirmed or subverted. I just don't like any of her songs as much. ("Paparazzi" is my favorite single of hers so far, and that's more of an "I like it" than an "I love it".)

I like "Turnin' Me On" and was really excited about it when it first dropped, but it really is not that great when you get down to it imo.

I would've agreed with all your points about Gaga before hearing "Bad Romance," kinda have to adjust all my gripes about her to some degree now that she has a song I love.

I intended all my points about Gaga to be more or less neutral (other than not liking her songs as much, but that's just completely my opinion and unimportant to what else I was saying about her), so I'm not sure how liking a song of hers or not affects them.

yeah as much as i'm more predisposed to liking hilson, i kind of have to admit that there's a lot more point to gaga as an artist. and tbh gaga probably has more songs i really love now, what with her upping her game considerably on the fame monster.

"turnin' me on" is still really great though

Get It Girl is her best song tho

before we get into the 2010 thread i just want to reveal that it turns out that i really love "replay" and "evacuate the dancefloor" - in fact let's totally replace sean kingston (is he still around?) with iyaz

Where's the 2010 pop thread?

I figure someone who listens to pop more than me should start the 2010 thread. I listen to r'n'b/rap radio more than pop and only ocassionally read the US Billboard pop chart (and rarely ever the UK one or others).

you guys should do this again, it was a fun read last year.

The Sean Kingston single from last year was okay but I much prefer him in puppy love mode (e.g. "Me Love") to Fire Bun mode, and I felt ambivalent re its unmistakeable Black Eyed Peas influence.

lol what is this song "patron tequila" by paradiso girls

^^ honestly this song is ridiculous

mmmhmm. it was the soundtrack of summer 2009 for the guys i was hanging out with. such a wonderful song for getting/being ridiculously drunk.

by the end of the night imma have you drunk and throwing up
by the end of the night imma have you SO FUCKED UP

that song does "obnoxiously wasted" so much better than ke$ha ever has and yet look who has the career

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTXBDNHJcvQ&feature=player_embedded#!

lol rong thread

what is um, wynter gordon "stop hatin 2.0" i like it

hate to be a pedant but are you bumping this thread on purpose to talk about '09 tracks or do you mean to be on rolling pop 2010 instead?

oh who am i kidding i love to be a pedant :)

no i thought it was from '09 so i thought i'd keep it here so as not to get the "uh you know that was from over a year ago" responses yknowwhatimean

i DON'T KNOW THE PROTOCOL MAN

haha ok i thought maybe they were older songs, which is why i asked. it's all good.

:D but rly this wynter gordon song keeps coming on last fm and it's like my own personal little jam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBdck-MtGWA

i come back to this every once in a while and just play it over and over