Cover your face as the animals die - it's The Cure Pornography Poll!!

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Up there with Berlin and Grey Life as one of the bleakest albums ever made. It's also one of the best. What say you? PS this album needs the 33 1/3 treatment for serious.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
A Strange Day 10
One Hundred Years 7
Cold 6
The Hanging Garden 3
The Figurehead 3
Siamese Twins 1
A Short Term Effect 0
Pornography 0


If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 25 December 2008 21:00 (eight years ago) Permalink

MY HEAD FALLS BACK AND THE WALLS CRASH DOWN
AND THE SKY AND THE IMPOSSIBLE EXPLODE
HELD FOR ONE MOMENT I REMEMBER A SONG
AN IMPRESSION OF SOUND
AND THEN EVERYTHING IS GONE
FOREVER...!

rentboy, Thursday, 25 December 2008 21:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

I voted "A Strange Day" too!

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 25 December 2008 21:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

"One Hundred Years".

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 25 December 2008 21:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

^^^ great opener

cutty, Thursday, 25 December 2008 21:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

This is tough, and strangely, it's the album I had on in the van while driving around all my xmas peeps last night.

For years, 100 Years was the no contest winner. More recently, I've been all about that one-two punch at the end of Cold and Pornography.

But now that lyric from the Figurehad "I will never be clean again" is echoing in my mind.

This is my favorite Cure record.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 25 December 2008 22:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

Rentboy is pinpointing the exact moment that made me pick A Strange Day there.

StanM, Friday, 26 December 2008 00:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

'a strange day' gets my vote, but 'siamese twins' was the favourite for years. but i can barely listen to that song anymore, whereas 'a strange day' and its hypnotic guitar line has a transcendent quality to it.

Charlie Howard, Friday, 26 December 2008 01:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

Voted "One Hundred Years" for being one of the best album openers of all time. "Cold" and its groaning cello run a very close second.

Telephone thing, Friday, 26 December 2008 04:53 (eight years ago) Permalink

This is one of the best records of the 80's all-time. It pretty much sparked me into being a music-lover. I don't see bleakness so much as unimaginable fantasy and arching wonder. It's a deeply, deeply psychedelic piece of music.

And I don't know what to vote for. Probably "The Figurehead" or "A Strange Day" but every track (except maybe "The Hanging Garden") has a fair shout.

baby got bahn (country matters), Friday, 26 December 2008 05:08 (eight years ago) Permalink

i'm going to have to think about this for a long, long time. is there an album that even sounds close to this one? truly one of the best albums ever made and looking forward to hearing it this week to make up my mind.

Bee OK, Friday, 26 December 2008 05:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

i always had a problem with how this record sounded, to be truthful. i loved '100 years' and 'the figurehead' as they appeared on the 'paris' live compilation. seemed to reveal the inner strength of the songs to me.

Charlie Howard, Friday, 26 December 2008 06:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

I agree, something about the sound on it always felt suffocating to me. I haven't listened to this album in over 20 years, and when thinking of Cure albums I realize now that I usually forget it exists!

Geese Is The Word (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Friday, 26 December 2008 20:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

I voted for "The Figurehead" because it was the song I was most excited to hear on the tour this summer. Really could've voted for any of these, though, depending on my mood.

ilxor, Friday, 26 December 2008 20:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'll have to think about this but for years my split sec answer would have been either Figurehead or Siamese Twins. I still adore the latter but as maybe hinted at upthread its one of these songs I'm not sure I have the emotional courage for these days. "Is it always like this...?"

baaderonixx, Friday, 26 December 2008 22:56 (eight years ago) Permalink

something about the sound on it always felt suffocating to me

Exactly why I like it - it's so visceral it lulls you into submission. It's also aged remarkably well (as opposed to, say, Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me)

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Saturday, 27 December 2008 00:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

I went with "Cold".

Lostandfound, Saturday, 27 December 2008 01:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

my name is Deon and i have one of the worst Decembers of my life. this poll seemed liked the perfect opportunity to reach into the deeps of my what my soul is experiencing at these moments in time. so this poll seemed to have perfect timing and tonight was the night to throw on the remastered version of this album and picked the right song. "Siamise Twins" was the winner, when Robert goes "Then everthing falls apart, broken inside me it falls apart..is it always like this?" is so perfect...

please bring on 2009 and thanks ILM for just being there!

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 December 2008 05:17 (eight years ago) Permalink

Alright, I give up. ILM is gonna make me play this album for the first time in 20 years. Will report back later. I have this feeling it's gonna sound too much like my teenage angst for my adult self to understand, though.

Geese Is The Word (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 27 December 2008 06:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

it still sounds great because it still sounds genuinely magical, and i do not use that word lightly

baby got bahn (country matters), Saturday, 27 December 2008 06:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

"The Hanging Garden" remains one of my favorite singles of all time, so much so that I want to vote for it even though it isn't my favorite song off the album (which would either be "Siamese Twins" or "A Strange Day").

^likes black girls (HI DERE), Saturday, 27 December 2008 17:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

truly one of the best albums ever made

Yes.

Cold.

grimly fiendish, Saturday, 27 December 2008 18:04 (eight years ago) Permalink

I might even vote for the title-track, which is nothing short of utterly spectacular

baby got bahn (country matters), Saturday, 27 December 2008 20:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

I voted "Figurehead", but it was very close with "A Strange Day", "Cold" and "Short Term Effect".

LeRooLeRoo, Saturday, 27 December 2008 21:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah Hanging Garden is a maelstrom of a single. I recently re-discovered the demo version included on the remaster. Funny to see how it started as a song that would have sat comfortably on 'Faith'

baaderonixx, Sunday, 28 December 2008 10:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

bump

Bee OK, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 05:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

It sounds like a demo for "Charlotte Sometimes" as much as "The Hanging Garden" (x-post)

LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 30 December 2008 05:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 1 January 2009 00:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 2 January 2009 00:01 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm surprised "Cold" did as well as it did.

ilxor, Friday, 2 January 2009 00:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

Really? I think its awesomeness is reasonably well appreciated round these parts.

Special topics: Disco, The Common Market (grimly fiendish), Friday, 2 January 2009 10:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

I voted Cold.

Nate Carson, Friday, 2 January 2009 12:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

forgot to vote :-/ wd probably have given the title-track some love

REMOVE THEIR EARS (country matters), Friday, 2 January 2009 12:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

1 vote for Siamese Twins?! You gotta be kidding me, ILM

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 1 April 2009 07:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

1 vote for Siamese Twins?! You gotta be kidding me, ILM

yeah, that was my thoughts as well. can't believe that i was the only vote for that incredible song.

Bee OK, Thursday, 2 April 2009 04:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

Again, tough to choose.

I'd probably roll with "Pornography" or "The Figurehead." I'll be extra controversial and say that I like the recording on the TRILOGY concert set more than the original.

BLASPHEMY!

Matt M., Thursday, 2 April 2009 04:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

The fact that "Pornography" received no votes is a) astonishing and b) indicative of the unrelenting awesomeness of this amazing record

Hell, even "A Short Term Effect" is the business.

Zayatte Mondatta (country matters), Thursday, 2 April 2009 10:55 (eight years ago) Permalink

Yeah "Short Term Effect" is objectively the weakest track on this - but is indeed the biz

baaderonixx, Thursday, 2 April 2009 10:57 (eight years ago) Permalink

Okay, earning my goth card, today. I've almost listened to this whole album again for the first time since 1985. I understand why people complained about Siamese Twins not finishing better. Strange Day is awesome as well. But still these cannot compare to the fucking synthesizers on "Cold". Still, the title track at the end is liable to take me away in the fucking goth paddy waggon, never a Bimble to be heard from again.

I earned my goth card today.

To Float Away On A Lifelong Song (Bimble), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:35 (eight years ago) Permalink

wait, the 1 vote for "Siamese Twins" should have been from me.

maybe u should tell that to your laughing vagina (HI DERE), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:36 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Figurehead" is pretty good, too. That's the only other one I wanted to mention. Thanking U

To Float Away On A Lifelong Song (Bimble), Monday, 6 April 2009 19:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

I woulda voted for Siamese Twins too.

ham hand (circa1916), Monday, 6 April 2009 20:44 (eight years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I'm playing it again. Because I am going to out-goth the entire universe and no way can you stop me.

Old stuff by The Cure Saved Bimble (Bimble), Saturday, 9 May 2009 20:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

Oh! My god! This album! wow wowowoowwoowowow'

Check "Cold" to find out how goth you are. Take the temperature, man.

Old stuff by The Cure Saved Bimble (Bimble), Saturday, 9 May 2009 21:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

There's nowhere for me to go after In Orange but this album. I'm having a complete and total Cure trip out today and I don't care what people think of that.

Definitely More Goth Than You (Bimble), Sunday, 7 June 2009 19:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Enjoy! It is their best album by far, IMHO. And I love some of the others a lot.

StanM, Sunday, 7 June 2009 20:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

I MUST FIGHT THIS SICKNESS

Douglas, Sunday, 7 June 2009 21:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

FIND A CURE...

[Ron Howard:] Hey, that's the name of the band!

the England guy that throws the balls (country matters), Sunday, 7 June 2009 21:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Check "Cold" to find out how goth you are. Take the temperature, man.

lolol <3 Bimble

A very rare and COLOUR performance of 'the Cure' in a very strange period of the group.
Here we have Robert Smith on guitar, Lol Tholhurst on percussion, Steve Severine on bass and Anne Stephenson & Virginia Hewes as the Venomettes Strings on violin.

COLOUR

nearly 50 in vagina years (onimo), Sunday, 29 November 2009 11:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

The lyrics of 'Siamese Twins' from "Leave me to die" until "it fades and spins" are among my favourite lyrics ever

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Especially "I walked away and grew old", that line in context is about as good as lines get

Puddle of Thudd (acoleuthic), Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

The best album about the awfulness of LSD ever.

Doran, Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

There's nothing awful about LSD therefore GTF

Twisted Hipster (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

It depends on how you use it. And if you use it excessively to provoke temporary psychosis in order to plumb internal depths and then translate into brilliant monolithic and bleak album of solipsism and horror, I guess it could, reasonably, be described as awful.

Doran, Sunday, 29 November 2009 13:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

"A Strange Day" is so so so good

HI DERE, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 18:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Can't remember how I voted, Strange Day methinx, but I now want a revote... for Figurehead

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 11 August 2010 21:20 (six years ago) Permalink

I earned my goth card today.

― To Float Away On A Lifelong Song (Bimble), Monday, April 6, 2009 3:35 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

<3 <3 <3

seger ros (crüt), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 21:21 (six years ago) Permalink

playing the Pornography rarities disk today and am remembering that "Temptation" is great; I wish it had lyrics

How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 August 2010 15:26 (six years ago) Permalink

(yes I know it morphed into "Let's Go To Bed" so don't quote those lyrics at me)

How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 August 2010 15:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Duke, Thursday, 12 August 2010 19:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Ah, somehow the audio/video is not in synch in that clip.

Duke, Thursday, 12 August 2010 19:36 (six years ago) Permalink

lol I'd forgotten that "Temptation Two" has lyrics

How could you forget the crazy hooker? (HI DERE), Thursday, 12 August 2010 19:39 (six years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

OMG I am reading the worst rock biography in the world (do not ask why, I just needed to read a rock bio and I picked this one) and the writer of this bio thinks that the lyric "something small falls out of your mouth and we laugh" is LITERALLY about "a small object tumbling from someone's mouth".

How fucking utterly stupid and unable to understand metaphor would you have to be to read that lyric as meaning that.

Wow. I wanted to read a bad rock bio, and I sure got one.

(This will teach me to read a Cure biography by someone who reckons Faith is a bad album. Shaking my damn head.)

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 21:00 (three years ago) Permalink

(p.s. what about this thread is not work safe?)

Yth Esos Yn Breten; Kows Predennek! (Branwell Bell), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 21:01 (three years ago) Permalink

(the title of the album showing up in yr browser history)

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 21:11 (three years ago) Permalink

Cover your face as the animals do it

set the trolls for the heart of the sun (how's life), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 21:15 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

one after the other

imago, Wednesday, 9 November 2016 14:39 (six months ago) Permalink

not sure if i have said this yet but i now think this is probably the Cure's best album. so gloomy and dark and really perfect overall.

Bee OK, Thursday, 17 November 2016 01:58 (six months ago) Permalink

five months pass...

I was just about to post this

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:06 (one week ago) Permalink

I have been blurting some random thoughts to Ned via Messenger re: this album after I read that piece and I might as well copy them over here:

I was just thinking the other day about how perfect this album is; I mean, IMO the weakest song is "A Short Term Effect", which is borderline astonishing because that is a great song.

How the whole album manages to shift through all of these different iterations of raging despair, finding all of the shades in a seemingly monochromatic emotional palette that we like to pretend aren't there in order to elevate our everyday happiness... They were never this _angry_ for a sustained period of time ever again in their career, which bums me out a little because it seems like rage is one of his bests muses.

There are so many ways in which The Hanging Garden is their best studio construction as far as their singles go. It's the only one they can't really do justice to live because of all of the effects ping-ponging off of each other, filling in the space in the surprisingly sparse arrangement and turning the whole thing into a towering, oppressive wall of sound.

I love this album so much, it is literally my lifeblood.

Man, The Figurehead. I don't even know how to start talking about this song: the death march drums; the inexorable bass; the stately, mechanical guitar; the meandering melodic line that spirals slowly into quiet madness; he instrumental bridges and choruses connecting each quietly communicated nightmare... There's an alternate script for Lost in Translation lurking somewhere in here.

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:13 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah that's a good write-up

the two songs that got 0 in this poll have got to be two of the best songs ever to get 0 in an ilx album poll

imago, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:22 (one week ago) Permalink

There isn't a song on here that is worse than 8/10.

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:22 (one week ago) Permalink

srsly

and only one vote for siamese twins i mean that song has the best lyrics of anything

imago, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:23 (one week ago) Permalink

I normally would have voted for it but, as I said when the poll originally ran, I felt compelled to vote "The Hanging Garden" as it is their most underrated single by a wide margin (I think it's top 3, possibly the best, along with "Primary" and "Charlotte Sometimes")

PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:25 (one week ago) Permalink

The title track has always been quite underrated, I've found. I love it, though... Smith wailing through this cacophony of drums, atonal guitar and those deep keyboards.

"It's TOO LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE!"

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:28 (one week ago) Permalink

This album was built for air drumming to. Seriously!

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:29 (one week ago) Permalink

the two songs that got 0 in this poll have got to be two of the best songs ever to get 0 in an ilx album poll

― imago, Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:22 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There isn't a song on here that is worse than 8/10.

― PJD PDJ DPJ (DJP), Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:22 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

Wimmels, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:29 (one week ago) Permalink

That review from Smash Hits in May '82...

"This is their gloomiest effort yet. It's a set of mournful laments which - cheerfully - all deal in one way or another with death. Robert Smith's normally plaintive voice has now become positively ghostly as it struggles through the waves of distorted sound. What's worse, there's little or no relief from the oppressiveness. Makes you glad you're alive." - 4 out of 10 - Ian Cranna.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:40 (one week ago) Permalink

and the ratings of the other LP's in the same issue:

Duran Duran - Rio (5.5/10)
Shakatak - Night Birds (8/10)
Funkapolitan - Funkapolitan (6/10)
Bucks Fizz - Are You Ready (10/10 <- no joke.)
The Clash - Combat Rock (6/10)
Altered Images - Pinky Blue (3.5/10 as given by Neil Tennant)
Thomas Dolby - The Golden Age of Wireless (6/10)
Various Artists - Tokyo Mobile Music 1 (6/10)
Paul McCartney - Tug of War (4/10)
Queen - Hot Space (5/10)
The Associates - Sulk (8/10)

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:46 (one week ago) Permalink

haha not content with the hatchet job on Pornography, they proceed to give that to Rio as well

imago, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:59 (one week ago) Permalink

Yeah, I was very surprised at that. I thought that Smash Hits would have given Rio a high rating, but obviously not!

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 20:04 (one week ago) Permalink

They gave Seventeen Seconds 8/10 and Faith 7/10. Surprisingly, they gave The Top 8/10 too.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:16 (one week ago) Permalink

The Head on the Door got 8.5/10

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 21:20 (one week ago) Permalink

tbf that review would absolutely make me want to hear the record, but I'm weird

Wimmels, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 22:42 (one week ago) Permalink

They liked The Associates, so hey.

Mark G, Friday, 19 May 2017 06:26 (one week ago) Permalink

I've just ordered the 2-disc remaster of this. Perhaps my fave, next to The Top.

Duke, Friday, 19 May 2017 20:35 (one week ago) Permalink


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